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     1. 02:02 AM - Re: Kit Fox Tires only $2.50? (Kevin Ridsdale)
     2. 04:32 AM - Re: Older Kitfox setting RPM (dave)
     3. 05:01 AM - Re: Older Kitfox setting RPM (Fox5flyer)
     4. 06:39 AM - Re: Older Kitfox setting RPM (Aerobatics@AOL.COM)
     5. 07:12 AM - Re: Older Kitfox setting RPM (dave)
     6. 08:02 AM - Re: Kit Fox Tires only $2.50? (kurt schrader)
     7. 08:24 AM - Re: Ski installation  (kurt schrader)
     8. 08:48 AM - Re: Older Kitfox setting RPM (Aerobatics@aol.com)
     9. 09:10 AM - Re: Ski installation  (Lynn Matteson)
    10. 09:20 AM - Jet Man (Don Pearsall)
    11. 10:37 AM - Re: setting RPM (Malcolmbru@AOL.COM)
    12. 10:57 AM - Re: setting RPM (Fox5flyer)
    13. 11:08 AM - Re: Jet Man (akflyer)
    14. 11:17 AM - Over-torqued GSC Prop (Dwayne)
    15. 12:49 PM - Re: Poly oil injection tank (Guy Buchanan)
    16. 01:22 PM - Coming to America (make education for glorious... ) (Colin Durey)
    17. 01:31 PM - Re: Poly oil injection tank (Don Smythe)
    18. 03:00 PM - Re: Over-torqued GSC Prop (flier)
    19. 04:12 PM - Re: setting RPM (Aerobatics@aol.com)
    20. 04:33 PM - Re: Jet Man (Aerobatics@aol.com)
    21. 04:36 PM - Re: Jet Man (Aerobatics@aol.com)
    22. 05:18 PM - Re: Over-torqued GSC Prop (ron schick)
    23. 05:35 PM - Re: Kit Fox Tires only $2.50? (Jim Crowder)
    24. 05:40 PM - Over-torqued GSC Prop-- Take out of service immediatly (dave)
    25. 06:24 PM - Re: Over-torqued GSC Prop (crazyivan)
    26. 07:41 PM - Re: Ski installation  (kurt schrader)
    27. 08:00 PM - Re: setting RPM (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
    28. 08:15 PM - Re: Sealing NPT Threads against fuel (kurt schrader)
    29. 08:38 PM - Re: Poly oil injection tank (Guy Buchanan)
    30. 09:25 PM - Re: Skis for Kitfox's (Kfyellowbird@cs.com)
    31. 10:06 PM - Re: Poly oil injection tank (Don Smythe)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Kit Fox Tires only $2.50? | 
      
      
      Jim,
      The tire rating of 730 pounds is per tire your load
      would be distributed evenly over 2 tires. If enough
      force were to be placed on one tire greater than 730
      pounds I would tend to believe you would end up with
      much greater problems.
      Kr
      --- Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net> wrote:
      
      > <jimlc@att.net>
      > 
      > I note that these tires are rated for 730 lbs.
      > maximum load.  Would 
      > they be suitable for a Kitfox 5 which is one of the
      > heavier Kitfoxes?
      > 
      > Jim Crowder
      > 
      > At 05:23 PM 12/21/2006, you wrote:
      > >Rex,
      > >The tires are our own brand King Fox Tires they are
      > a
      > >treadless tire 21"x12"x8" for more detail go to the
      > >web page
      > >
      > >http://mipowerparachute.com/Tires.html
      > 
      > 
      > 
      >
      > Click on
      > about
      > provided
      > www.buildersbooks.com
      > Admin.
      >
      > browse
      > Subscriptions page,
      > FAQ,
      > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
      >
      > 
      > 
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: Older Kitfox setting RPM | 
      
      Hey Dave, 
      
      Are you setting for 6800  wide open straight and level ?
      and what are you getting static?   
      I set mine with a combination of RPM , EGTS with needle adjustment as 
      necessary. Fuel flow increases with Needle clip change. 
      
      
      Dave 
      
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Aerobatics@aol.com 
        To: kitfox-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 1:46 AM
        Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Older Kitfox setting RPM
      
      
        I have a 582 Blue head on a E box and IVO 3 Blade on my KF-2 .  6,800 
      is what Lockwood said it should be.  I was asking because I was at 6,200 
      and was happy.  They said I was giving up a lot of HP at 6,200.    Took 
      a bit of pitch out of my IVO and it went to 6,400 to 6,450.  It was a 
      big improvement. I havent changed it since.  I might take some more 
      pitch out someday...
      
        These 2 strokes are a bit peaky and like to rev.  Easier on engine but 
      this topic has been there before...:-)
      
        Personally, I think 6,400 to 6,800 is ideal.
      
      
        Dave
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Older Kitfox setting RPM | 
      
      Malcolm, a large part of the wandering trim and rpm is that the model II 
      being so light and with a low torque motor results in low overall 
      inertia.  Very small air currents and bumps will affect it.  Heavier 
      airplanes with higher torque engines are much less prone to this.
      It's normal.
      Deke
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Malcolmbru@aol.com 
        To: kitfox-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:48 PM
        Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Older Kitfox setting RPM
      
      
        I have a mod 2 and seem to have a wondering RPM  motor speed trimming 
      and setting angel of attack seems like an endless task. what to do?  582 
       gsc prop Max 6200 on climb  mal michigan kitfoxer 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Older Kitfox setting RPM | 
      
      
      In a message dated 12/22/2006 6:34:09 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
      dave@cfisher.com writes:
      
      Hey Dave, 
      
      Are you setting for 6800  wide open straight and level ?
      and what are you getting static?   
      I set mine with a combination of RPM , EGTS with needle adjustment as  
      necessary. Fuel flow increases with Needle clip change. 
      
      
      Dave 
      
      
      6,800 in a climb at 55 MPH.  I will exceed VNE in level flight at  WOT.  As 
      far as needle settings, its stock, unless its very hot or cold,  then I might 
      change it.   Stock needle setting yields about 1050F  in WOT climb.  1200F at 
      5,600 to 5,800 RPM cruise which is about 75 to  80 mph actual. The EGT climbs 
      at cruise naturally at cruise. fuel flow is what  it needs to be to keep EGT in
      
      proper range. 
      
      I might add I have faired all lift struts, even the gas caps. It makes  a big 
      difference in speed.
      
      Running these 2 strokes is all about proper EGT and proper RPM.  The  final 
      word is the color of the plug. 
      
      I highly recommend consulting a good Rotax dealer.
      
      These 2 strokes may not be the most fuel efficient, but they have best  power 
      to weight!
      
      Dave
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Older Kitfox setting RPM | 
      
      Dave, thanks for info. 
      
      what is your vne ?  
      
      I use GPS to get my speeds  
      
      What is temperature you get those numbers at ?  in cooler temps I would 
      1300F  + running that fine  on  582 . 
      
      yes i strongly agree- trust your plugs.  PS -- mine over 100 hours now  
      on 582  got in 1.8 hours yesterday and still seem  good .
      
      Dave
      
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Aerobatics@AOL.COM 
        To: kitfox-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:39 AM
        Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Older Kitfox setting RPM
      
      
        In a message dated 12/22/2006 6:34:09 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
      dave@cfisher.com writes:
          Hey Dave, 
      
          Are you setting for 6800  wide open straight and level ?
          and what are you getting static?   
          I set mine with a combination of RPM , EGTS with needle adjustment 
      as necessary. Fuel flow increases with Needle clip change. 
      
      
          Dave 
        6,800 in a climb at 55 MPH.  I will exceed VNE in level flight at WOT. 
       As far as needle settings, its stock, unless its very hot or cold, then 
      I might change it.   Stock needle setting yields about 1050F in WOT 
      climb.  1200F at 5,600 to 5,800 RPM cruise which is about 75 to 80 mph 
      actual. The EGT climbs at cruise naturally at cruise. fuel flow is what 
      it needs to be to keep EGT in proper range. 
      
        I might add I have faired all lift struts, even the gas caps. It makes 
      a big difference in speed.
      
        Running these 2 strokes is all about proper EGT and proper RPM.  The 
      final word is the color of the plug. 
      
        I highly recommend consulting a good Rotax dealer.
      
        These 2 strokes may not be the most fuel efficient, but they have best 
      power to weight!
      
        Dave
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kit Fox Tires only $2.50? | 
      
      
      Hi Jim,
      
      I think they are a little light weight for us -5 and
      up drivers.  I know I don-t always land squarely on
      both tires and at 1 G, so I think they are a risk for
      us blowing a tire and doing more damage.
      
      Probably no problem for the 1200 and under guys
      though.
      
      Kurt S.
      
      --- Kevin Ridsdale <ksridsdale@mipowerparachute.com>
      wrote:
      
      > Jim,
      > The tire rating of 730 pounds is per tire your load
      > would be distributed evenly over 2 tires. If enough
      > force were to be placed on one tire greater than 730
      > pounds I would tend to believe you would end up with
      > much greater problems.
      > Kr
      > --- Jim Crowder <jimlc@att.net> wrote:
      > 
      > > I note that these tires are rated for 730 lbs.
      > > maximum load.  Would 
      > > they be suitable for a Kitfox 5 which is one of
      > the heavier Kitfoxes?
      > > 
      > > Jim Crowder
      
      __________________________________________________
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ski installation  | 
      
      
      I Michel,
      
      You need to remember that the ski is flying in the air
      and not on it like on the snow.  With the curve up, it
      acts like the top of a wing upside down and lifts down
      in front.  Once it goes down a little, it will pull
      down hard because the axis is near the middle and not
      forward of the center of pressure, which is around 25%
      of the length.
      
      Merry Christmas,
      
      Kurt S.
      
      --- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
      
      > That's when I started wondering how a ski can tilt
      > downward in flight. 
      > My opinion is that the shape of the ski tip would
      > create an 
      > aero-dynamic pressure upward and landing with a ski
      > pointing upward is 
      > certainly not the same hazard as when pointing down.
      > 
      > Cheers,
      > Michel
      
      __________________________________________________
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Older Kitfox setting RPM | 
      
      
      In a message dated 12/22/2006 9:13:40 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
      dave@cfisher.com writes:
      
      Dave, thanks for info. 
      
      what is your vne ?  
      
      I use GPS to get my speeds  
      
      What is temperature you get those numbers at ?  in cooler temps I  would 
      1300F  + running that fine  on  582 . 
      
      yes i strongly agree- trust your plugs.  PS -- mine over 100 hours  now  on 
      582  got in 1.8 hours yesterday and still seem  good  .
      
      Dave
      
      
      Well A GPS is a must for accurate #s   
      
      Personally, my plugs would never see more than 50 hours, typically I change  
      them around 30.  They are cheap and I notice a small improvement in idle  
      whenever I plug new ones in. I suggest following the Rotax manual.
      
      VNE is 100
      
      I fly in East Central Illinois. About 100 Miles S of Chicago. We see a WIDE  
      range of temp and Humidity.  When flying cross country I fly at 5,000 ft or  
      so. Local around 3,000.  In cold weather, 30F to 0 F,  obviously  the EGT climb
      
      and in hot they drop.  They highest I have seen is 1,350 at  cruise. Raised 
      the needle one notch and it dropped 50F. Personally I dont want  to see over 
      1,300 ever.  1,200 to 1,250 is comfortable to me.
      
      I just took my engine to "theultralightplace.com" in Kankakee for its 300  
      hour medical.  Doc Jim Leon said whatever your doing keep on doing  it.  He 
      specializes in 582 and really knows these engines.
      
      So, for me, this combo seems to work well.
      
      Best
      
      Dave
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ski installation  | 
      
      
      Kurt-
      Does this mean that once the ski-equipped plane slows to landing  
      speed...and the ski stops producing lift...that the ski will then  
      return to the normal (bungees relaxed) position...about 15 up, as I  
      read here?
      
      Lynn
      On Dec 22, 2006, at 11:24 AM, kurt schrader wrote:
      
      > <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
      >
      > I Michel,
      >
      > You need to remember that the ski is flying in the air
      > and not on it like on the snow.  With the curve up, it
      > acts like the top of a wing upside down and lifts down
      > in front.  Once it goes down a little, it will pull
      > down hard because the axis is near the middle and not
      > forward of the center of pressure, which is around 25%
      > of the length.
      >
      > Merry Christmas,
      >
      > Kurt S.
      >
      > --- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
      >
      >> That's when I started wondering how a ski can tilt
      >> downward in flight.
      >> My opinion is that the shape of the ski tip would
      >> create an
      >> aero-dynamic pressure upward and landing with a ski
      >> pointing upward is
      >> certainly not the same hazard as when pointing down.
      >>
      >> Cheers,
      >> Michel
      >
      > __________________________________________________
      >
      >
      
      
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      For those of you YouTube watchers here is an amazing video of a guy who
      straps a wing on his back with several rocket engines bolted to it, and then
      zooms around the (Swiss?) countryside. Just amazing. 
      
      
      Oh and it is on topic because the launch plane looks kind of like a Kitfox.
      
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dST-a5IU_h4
      
      
      Don Pearsall
      
      
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      Dee    I have asked this question before but have never made any changes to 
      prop or jetting I herd of egt,s around 1300 but fee that is high.  Comfort 
      levels are a very subjective. I wish I worried less and had moor fun flying.  like
      
      the time you came to visit, I wanted you to fly my machine but when you said 
      you had  a migraine  I got scared for you and my plain.  mal 
      
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      1300 is a bit too high Mal.  Increase pitch or rejet.  Shoot for 1200.  
      Yeah, the headache was pretty bad that day.  Could barely fly my own, 
      let alone having to worry about yours.
      Deke
      
      I'm outta here for a few days.  Merry Christmas everybody!
      
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Malcolmbru@aol.com 
        To: kitfox-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 1:34 PM
        Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: setting RPM
      
      
        Dee    I have asked this question before but have never made any 
      changes to prop or jetting I herd of egt,s around 1300 but fee that is 
      high.  Comfort levels are a very subjective. I wish I worried less and 
      had moor fun flying.  like the time you came to visit, I wanted you to 
      fly my machine but when you said you had  a migraine  I got scared for 
      you and my plain.  mal 
      
      
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      not rocket engines.  They are Jetcat turbine engines that were originaly ment for
      R/C jets (I have one).  THat is WAY too cool.... that has to be an incredible
      feeling.  
      
      I am not sure if they are 80's or 120's.  If 80s then he has around 100# of thrust.
      If 120's then he has around 155-160# depending on what RPM he has them set
      at...
      
      --------
      Leni
      Avid C W/582
      1260 full lotus
      
      .......DO NOT ARCHIVE.....
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=83053#83053
      
      
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| Subject:  | Over-torqued GSC Prop | 
      
      
       Has anyone had any sucess in shimming an apparently over torqued GSC three blade
      on 912... ie; no gap, blades will start going out of pitch in 30-40 hours.
      Someone has likely been sucessful in shimming this prop. I know this may sound
      dangerous but it could be done safely too....
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=83056#83056
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Poly oil injection tank | 
      
      
      At 10:49 AM 12/20/2006, you wrote:
      >Yesterday I noticed what appears as a crack in my Poly oil injection 
      >tank.  I'm not certain it's a crack but has all the good appearance 
      >of one.  Has anyone ever had one
      
      Don,
               What does your injection tank look like? I replaced mine 
      before I flew because the old tank became brittle. Mine was a 2 liter 
      rectangular Nalgene bottle. I got it on the web from U.S. Plastics, I think.
      
      
      Guy Buchanan
      K-IV/1200 w/ 582 C-box & Warp 3 blade 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Coming to America (make education for glorious... ) | 
      
      
      Hi Folks,
      
      I'm going to be delayed a bit more in putting the fabric on our KF IV, as
      I have just been told I'm going to the US for a quick trip in late
      January. I have to attend a meeting or two in Rhode Island (not sure of
      the city/town just yet)for a few days, plus visit a couple of sites in New
      York city and Washington DC, and possibly a couple of other locations on
      the east coast.
      
      I may have a day or so free at either end of the business bits, so if any
      of you live within/near Rhode Island, or a modest distance from Washington
      (say an hour's drive), I'd love to meet you and have a look at your plane.
      >From the posts I've read before, a few of you seem to live in the North
      West corner (Oregon and Washington State), and I may (emphasise may) be
      able to divert through there on the way back.
      
      If you are open to a visit from a fellow Kitfoxer from "the other side"
      (of the planet) let me know. When I'm sure of the exact dates and routes,
      I'll see what can be done to drop in briefly.
      
      Regards
      
      Colin Durey
      Sydney - Australia
      0418-677073
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Poly oil injection tank | 
      
      
      Guy,
          My tank was provided in the Kit from SS.  It measures about 7" wide X 
      8"-10" high and 3" deep.
      
      Don Smythe
      Do Not Archive
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Guy Buchanan" <bnn@nethere.com>
      Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:33 PM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Poly oil injection tank
      
      
      >
      > At 10:49 AM 12/20/2006, you wrote:
      >>Yesterday I noticed what appears as a crack in my Poly oil injection tank. 
      >>I'm not certain it's a crack but has all the good appearance of one.  Has 
      >>anyone ever had one
      >
      > Don,
      >         What does your injection tank look like? I replaced mine before I 
      > flew because the old tank became brittle. Mine was a 2 liter rectangular 
      > Nalgene bottle. I got it on the web from U.S. Plastics, I think.
      >
      >
      > Guy Buchanan
      > K-IV/1200 w/ 582 C-box & Warp 3 blade
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Over-torqued GSC Prop | 
      
      
      I just ordered new blades from GSC as I've had my prop now for 10 years.
      
      The first question they asked when I inquired about the prop was whether
      there was a gap in between the hub halves.  If there's not a gap, there's no
      question that the blades should be replaced.
      
      IMHO, don't screw around trying to shim.  If the hub isn't holding the
      blades, replace the blades.  Slinging a blade could end up killing you when
      the engine comes off.  A set of 3 new blades is $450.  Very cheap insurance.
      
      Regards,
      
      Ted
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dwayne
      Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 1:17 PM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Over-torqued GSC Prop
      
      
      
       Has anyone had any sucess in shimming an apparently over torqued GSC three
      blade on 912... ie; no gap, blades will start going out of pitch in 30-40
      hours. Someone has likely been sucessful in shimming this prop. I know this
      may sound dangerous but it could be done safely too....
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=83056#83056
      
      
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      In a message dated 12/22/2006 12:38:30 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
      Malcolmbru@aol.com writes:
      
      Dee    I have asked this question before but  have never made any changes to 
      prop or jetting I herd of egt,s around 1300 but  fee that is high.  Comfort 
      levels are a very subjective. I wish I worried  less and had moor fun flying. 
      
      like the time you came to visit, I wanted  you to fly my machine but when you 
      said you had  a migraine  I got  scared for you and my plain.  mal 
      
      
      I believe Rotax wants 1,200F.  I would like to add, indicated  temp is like 
      airspeed.  The final word is the plugs.  My  Indicated Temps may or may not be
      
      accurate.  I started off a bit cool  (rich)...  at 1150 F at cruise and the 
      plugs showed cool...    then went to factory settings and been there mostly 
      since.
      
      Remember there are big differences from WOT and cruise temps as much as  200F 
      cooler at WOT and this is on purpose...
      
      :-)
      
      Ho ho ho
      
      Dave
      
      
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      well kinda a kitfox LOL  
      
      That's is AWESOME!! I want one!!
      
      I have heard of these before but it didn't climb....
      
      wow
      
      Dave
      
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      I believe the plane is a Pilatus  turbo Porter  Good  STOL   if my memory 
      serves me well... and it doesnt LOL
      
      Dave
      
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| Subject:  | Over-torqued GSC Prop | 
      
      
      Might be better off milling, filling, or sanding off some of the aluminum at 
      the parting edge.  Ron NB Ore
      
      
      >From: "Dwayne" <dwaynemccourt@yahoo.com>
      >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Kitfox-List: Over-torqued GSC Prop
      >Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:17:15 -0800
      >
      >
      >  Has anyone had any sucess in shimming an apparently over torqued GSC 
      >three blade on 912... ie; no gap, blades will start going out of pitch in 
      >30-40 hours. Someone has likely been sucessful in shimming this prop. I 
      >know this may sound dangerous but it could be done safely too....
      >
      >
      >Read this topic online here:
      >
      >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=83056#83056
      >
      >
      
      _________________________________________________________________
      >From photos to predictions, The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes has 
      it all. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kit Fox Tires only $2.50? | 
      
      
      That's exactly the way I saw it, too.  But they sounded like such a 
      good deal.  I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something and missing out.
      
      Thanks,   Jim Crowder
      
      do not archive
      
      At 09:01 AM 12/22/2006, you wrote:
      >Hi Jim,
      >
      >I think they are a little light weight for us -5 and
      >up drivers.  I know I don-t always land squarely on
      >both tires and at 1 G, so I think they are a risk for
      >us blowing a tire and doing more damage.
      >
      >Probably no problem for the 1200 and under guys
      >though.
      >
      >Kurt S.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Over-torqued GSC Prop--  Take out of service immediatly | 
      
      
      Dwayne,
      
      Call Rick Peters the owner if GSC at  (250) 549-3772  or email him at 
      info@ultralightprops.com
      I was just talking to Rick yesterday and I think he is shut down till Jan 
      3, but call or email to confirm.
      
      I would highly recommend that you take your prop out of service immediately. 
      If you lose a blade you will destroy your engine mount and you could lose 
      your engine and ....well  you don't want that to happen.   I have on mine a 
      safety cable attached to engine and ties to fuselage under the dash.  If 
      that  engine breaks free all that will be holding it on is the heater hose 
      and fuel lines.  Carbs will fly off.
      
      I have first hand experience in Prop departures in aircraft myself and have 
      worked on others this  year that have had the same.
      
      If the GSC alum hub halve blocks are touching that means that the root ends 
      of  the blades have been crushed. If crushed they will not only NOT hold the 
      pitch in the hub but the grains of the hardwood have most likely have been 
      compromised and you could be looking at failure at ANY time.
      
      Your choice ,
      
      Dave
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Dwayne" <dwaynemccourt@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:17 PM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Over-torqued GSC Prop
      
      
      >
      > Has anyone had any sucess in shimming an apparently over torqued GSC three 
      > blade on 912... ie; no gap, blades will start going out of pitch in 30-40 
      > hours. Someone has likely been sucessful in shimming this prop. I know 
      > this may sound dangerous but it could be done safely too....
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=83056#83056
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Over-torqued GSC Prop | 
      
      
      If the aluminum clam shells are touching then that means that the wooden blades
      have been crushed at their roots...very bad!  Sanding, milling, shimming, or
      filing the aluminum will only make the prop more dangerous!  Do not try to jerry-rig
      a fix.  Remove it, send it to GSC, and have them evaluate it.
      
      Throwing a prop and crashing because you did your own make-shift maintenance is
      not only bad for your health and insurance premiums, but it is another argument
      people can make against experimental aircraft.
      
      --------
      Dave
      Speedster 912 UL
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=83130#83130
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ski installation  | 
      
      
      Hi Lynn,
      
      Well, you should ask someone with more ski experience
      than me.  I can only address the aero theory here to
      say what "should" happen.
      
      In theory, there is no difference between theory and
      reality.  In reality, there is often a big difference.
      
      Remember, a theory is just an opinion by someone who
      thinks they are important.  You get that in schools. 
      Experience rules.  You get that in life.  In neither
      case do I claim to be important, just still trying to
      do my best to help.
      
      In theory, I expect that the bungy would pull up to
      the relaxed position unless unbalanced ski weight or
      aerodymanic force pulls it into tension.  If it is
      aerodynamically pulled tense, then some force with
      resulting drag is being applied.  If I am right, the
      force on the bungy is a vector equal to the lift and
      drag applied.  Threated just like a wind vector, the
      aft part of the bungy pull is = to drag.  The verticle
      part is = to lift (down) which the wing must overcome.
      
      At landing speed and angle of attack you still have
      some lift and drag on the ski.
      
      What do you ski flyers actually see happen?
      
      Kurt S.  S-5
      
      --- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
      
      > Kurt-
      > Does this mean that once the ski-equipped plane
      > slows to landing  
      > speed...and the ski stops producing lift...that the
      > ski will then return to the normal (bungees relaxed)
      > position...about 15 up, as I read here?
      > 
      > Lynn
      
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      If out side air temp is 40 degrees  will the gage be reading 30  degrees  hi 
      or low?as 70 degrees is ambient.
         If the egt  reads 1200 at 40 outside air temp what is  actual egt temp? 
      and how will ajusting the prop change this?    mal
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Sealing NPT Threads against fuel | 
      
      
      Thanks Nick,
      
      And just in case, I have been a good boy (mostly) this
      year Nick.  :-)
      
      Merry Christmas to you all too.
      
      I'll add that reference to my KF info.  Next year when
      I retire (Mar 10) I intend to redue my fuel system on
      my Fox as well as many other upgrades and will try
      your graphite paste.
      
      Kurt S.  S-5
      
      --- Nick Scholtes <Nick@Scholtes1.com> wrote:
      
      > Kurt,
      > 
      > I'm not a plumber either, but I live on a farm and
      > we end up very often 
      > becoming "jack of all trades" in some ways!
      > .............
      > Anyway, about 10 years ago I found a product that
      > absolutely, 
      > positively, works absolutely perfect to seal NPT
      > (tapered) pipe threads 
      > against petroleum products.  It is a thick black
      > graphite paste.  I buy 
      > it at McMaster-Carr supply company.  If you want to
      > see it, go here:  
      > http://www.mcmaster.com/ and search for this part
      > number:  4586K8, it's called "Key Graphite Paste".
      > 
      > We have overhead fuel tanks to fuel up the tractors
      > and stuff, and there 
      > are a bunch of joints on the tanks that connect the
      > filter to the hose 
      > to the valve, etc.  We've been using this graphite
      > paste on these NPT 
      > fittings for 10 years and it really works, holds up
      > in weather and 
      > everything, lasts forever.
      > 
      > Best,
      > 
      > Nick
      
      __________________________________________________
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Poly oil injection tank | 
      
      
      Don,
               Check the following link to see if any of these bottles look 
      like yours. I'm away from my plane for a couple of weeks or I'd 
      measure mine to correlate.
      
      http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=15034&product%5Fid=14979
      
               Let me know if this looks like yours. First, though, ask 
      John if he's stocking any replacements at Kitfox. If not I'll talk 
      you through how I did my bottle.
      
      At 01:31 PM 12/22/2006, you wrote:
      >
      >Guy,
      >    My tank was provided in the Kit from SS.  It measures about 7" 
      > wide X 8"-10" high and 3" deep.
      >
      >Don Smythe
      >Do Not Archive
      
      Guy Buchanan
      K-IV/1200 w/ 582 C-box & Warp 3 blade 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Skis for Kitfox's | 
      
      Lynn-Check out trickair.com.  They make what you are looking for.
      
      Lowell N560KF
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Poly oil injection tank | 
      
      
      Guy,
          The largest of the bottles looks almost exactly like mine.  Sorry the 
      site didn't give dimensions.
      
      Thanks
      Don Smythe
      Do Not Archive
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Guy Buchanan" <bnn@nethere.com>
      Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:32 PM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Poly oil injection tank
      
      
      >
      > Don,
      >         Check the following link to see if any of these bottles look like 
      > yours. I'm away from my plane for a couple of weeks or I'd measure mine to 
      > correlate.
      >
      > http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=15034&product%5Fid=14979
      >
      >         Let me know if this looks like yours. First, though, ask John if 
      > he's stocking any replacements at Kitfox. If not I'll talk you through how 
      > I did my bottle.
      >
      > At 01:31 PM 12/22/2006, you wrote:
      >>
      >>Guy,
      >>    My tank was provided in the Kit from SS.  It measures about 7" wide X 
      >> 8"-10" high and 3" deep.
      >>
      >>Don Smythe
      >>Do Not Archive
      >
      > Guy Buchanan
      > K-IV/1200 w/ 582 C-box & Warp 3 blade
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
 
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