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1. 12:57 AM - Re: Rotax VS Volks wagon (JC Propellerdesign)
2. 03:48 AM - Re: Rotax VS Volks wagon (dave)
3. 05:33 AM - Re: Rotax VS Volks wagon (JC Propellerdesign)
4. 06:24 AM - Re: Rotax 912 FWF relay question (Noel Loveys)
5. 07:36 AM - Re: new kitfox2 (Jose M. Toro)
6. 11:03 AM - Re: new kitfox2 (kitfoxmike)
7. 07:23 PM - Re: Rotax VS Volks wagon/Ice (ron schick)
8. 07:35 PM - Re: Rotax VS Volks wagon (ron schick)
9. 10:43 PM - Re: Broken Skylight (kurt schrader)
10. 10:52 PM - Re: : dead-stick topic The sound Michel (kurt schrader)
11. 11:06 PM - Re: Fuel shut offs (kurt schrader)
12. 11:11 PM - Re: Re: dead-stick topic (kurt schrader)
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax VS Volks wagon |
"Just Dave" one of the many Dave's here (Dave F) got 102 MPH on an about
standard day, (65 HP) 103-4 on a cooler day.
you have 92 kts = 106 MPH it means you have 73 HP if everything else
is the same.
Jan
----- Original Message -----
From: ron schick
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax VS Volks wagon
<roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Mal my KF IV Speedster is 660LB Have not dynoed, but am jacking up
the cc
from 1915 to 2275. I doubt that I am getting 65 hp as I can only get
92kts
WOT, 700 fpm solo and way less at 1200 lbs. My target hp was 70.
Finishing
up a few projects then back to my new motor. Got 1.3 hours flying
today.
Ron NB Ore Kitfox IV Speedster 1915cc VW Valley Engeneering llc
Redrive
1.6:1 72" Ivo ~55 TTEA
>From: Malcolmbru@aol.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax VS Volks wagon Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007
>21:18:00 EST
>
>how many hp and what is the weight ttl mal
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax VS Volks wagon |
Jan, Good memory but Ron has a speedster and is over 100 lbs heavier
that me to start with.
If I recall correctly Ron has a redrive on the VW . Should be a decent
combination when all the tweaking done.
Ron, Any troubles with Carb ice on the VW ?
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: JC Propellerdesign
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax VS Volks wagon
"Just Dave" one of the many Dave's here (Dave F) got 102 MPH on an
about standard day, (65 HP) 103-4 on a cooler day.
you have 92 kts = 106 MPH it means you have 73 HP if everything else
is the same.
Jan
----- Original Message -----
From: ron schick
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax VS Volks wagon
<roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Mal my KF IV Speedster is 660LB Have not dynoed, but am jacking up
the cc
from 1915 to 2275. I doubt that I am getting 65 hp as I can only
get 92kts
WOT, 700 fpm solo and way less at 1200 lbs. My target hp was 70.
Finishing
up a few projects then back to my new motor. Got 1.3 hours flying
today.
Ron NB Ore Kitfox IV Speedster 1915cc VW Valley Engeneering llc
Redrive
1.6:1 72" Ivo ~55 TTEA
>From: Malcolmbru@aol.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax VS Volks wagon Date: Mon, 1 Jan
2007
>21:18:00 EST
>
>how many hp and what is the weight ttl mal
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax VS Volks wagon |
The Limbach 2000 (VW) we had in the club in our touring motor glider,
SF25C had 80 HP at ? 3600 RPM, about 65 at 2900 RPM if I remember it
correct. it had an zenith-Stromberg 150 CD carb. I think.
Jan
----- Original Message -----
From: dave
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax VS Volks wagon
Jan, Good memory but Ron has a speedster and is over 100 lbs heavier
that me to start with.
If I recall correctly Ron has a redrive on the VW . Should be a
decent combination when all the tweaking done.
Ron, Any troubles with Carb ice on the VW ?
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: JC Propellerdesign
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax VS Volks wagon
"Just Dave" one of the many Dave's here (Dave F) got 102 MPH on an
about standard day, (65 HP) 103-4 on a cooler day.
you have 92 kts = 106 MPH it means you have 73 HP if everything
else is the same.
Jan
----- Original Message -----
From: ron schick
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax VS Volks wagon
<roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
Mal my KF IV Speedster is 660LB Have not dynoed, but am jacking
up the cc
from 1915 to 2275. I doubt that I am getting 65 hp as I can only
get 92kts
WOT, 700 fpm solo and way less at 1200 lbs. My target hp was 70.
Finishing
up a few projects then back to my new motor. Got 1.3 hours flying
today.
Ron NB Ore Kitfox IV Speedster 1915cc VW Valley Engeneering llc
Redrive
1.6:1 72" Ivo ~55 TTEA
>From: Malcolmbru@aol.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax VS Volks wagon Date: Mon, 1 Jan
2007
>21:18:00 EST
>
>how many hp and what is the weight ttl mal
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| Subject: | Rotax 912 FWF relay question |
A starter relay is a solenoid. It can handle a lot of current for
relatively short periods of time. There are other solenoids available that
are specifically designed for longer periods of energization.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Brent E Bidus
> Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 7:16 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Rotax 912 FWF relay question
>
>
>
> Can anyone confirm that part number 49028 (starter relay provided by
> Rotax) is a Prestolite SAZ-4201N solenoid? I can't find anything with
> 49028 on the tag. Are a starter relay and solenoid the same
> thing? If
> not, what does the solenoid hook up to? I looked up the
> prestolite part
> number on the internet and it shows it as a solenoid.
> Probably a basic
> question but I'm pretty electrically challenged. Thanks,
>
> Brent Bidus
> Colorado Springs
>
>
>
>
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The beauty of Model II is that it is light, can take off and land from very
short fields, and has excellent cross wind handling as it! =0A=0AJose=0AEx
Kitfox II/582 (and missing it)=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom:
Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>=0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0ASent:
Sunday, December 31, 2006 2:27:10 AM=0ASubject: Re: Kitfox-List: new kitfo
x2=0A=0A=0AHi Jerry. Amen to what John says. The Model 2 is a sweet little
airplane as designed. Just leave it alone and have fun!=0A =0A=0A=0Ajohn pe
rry <eskflyer@lvcisp.com> wrote:=0AJerry welcome to the most fun you ever e
xperienced, The Kitfox.=0AI have a Kitfox 2 N718PD , I have almost 700 hour
s on her now . Never have ever had one single problem with crosswind or adv
erse Yaw problems on takeoff or landing or just flying . In my humble opini
on there is no need to enlarge the Vertical stabilizer or rudder .=0AFly sa
fe fly low fly slow =0AJohn Perry=0A580-695-8778=0Aeskflyer@lvcisp.com=0AKi
tfox2 N718PD=0A582 cbox 2:62-1=0AIvo inflight 3 blade 68"=0A =0A=0A=0AI'm n
ew to kitfox , Just purchased a kitfox 2 and I was interested in making the
rudder and the stab taller to help the yaw ? I'm still in the stage of bui
lding before the covering. What is the thoughts has anyone done this? Also
is there anyone in North Cal near paradise that I can see there kitfox and
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Adverse yaw, what's that, oh! that's what makes the kitfox fun. Just build it
and go fly it, after awhile you won't realize the airplane has the adverse yaw.
--------
kitfoxmike
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax VS Volks wagon/Ice |
I have an updraft carb with a heat shield to keep it cool. In front of that
is an air cleaner that has an in and out. A butterfly in front of that
makes sure all intake air is just downstream from the cylinders. When open
it allows ram air from the front. No ice yet. Ron NB Ore
>From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax VS Volks wagon
>Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 06:47:46 -0500
>
>Jan, Good memory but Ron has a speedster and is over 100 lbs heavier that
>me to start with.
>If I recall correctly Ron has a redrive on the VW . Should be a decent
>combination when all the tweaking done.
>
>Ron, Any troubles with Carb ice on the VW ?
>
>
>Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: JC Propellerdesign
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 3:56 AM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax VS Volks wagon
>
>
> "Just Dave" one of the many Dave's here (Dave F) got 102 MPH on an about
>standard day, (65 HP) 103-4 on a cooler day.
>
> you have 92 kts = 106 MPH it means you have 73 HP if everything else is
>the same.
>
> Jan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ron schick
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax VS Volks wagon
>
>
><roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
> Mal my KF IV Speedster is 660LB Have not dynoed, but am jacking up
>the cc
> from 1915 to 2275. I doubt that I am getting 65 hp as I can only get
>92kts
> WOT, 700 fpm solo and way less at 1200 lbs. My target hp was 70.
>Finishing
> up a few projects then back to my new motor. Got 1.3 hours flying
>today.
> Ron NB Ore Kitfox IV Speedster 1915cc VW Valley Engeneering llc
>Redrive
> 1.6:1 72" Ivo ~55 TTEA
>
>
> >From: Malcolmbru@aol.com
> >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax VS Volks wagon Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007
> >21:18:00 EST
> >
> >how many hp and what is the weight ttl mal
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax VS Volks wagon |
Well if I do have 73 hp then I need 100. Climbs like a Cessna. Ron NB
Ore
>From: "JC Propellerdesign" <propellerdesign@tele2.se>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax VS Volks wagon
>Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 09:56:43 +0100
>
>"Just Dave" one of the many Dave's here (Dave F) got 102 MPH on an about
>standard day, (65 HP) 103-4 on a cooler day.
>
>you have 92 kts = 106 MPH it means you have 73 HP if everything else is the
>same.
>
>Jan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ron schick
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 5:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax VS Volks wagon
>
>
><roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
>
> Mal my KF IV Speedster is 660LB Have not dynoed, but am jacking up the
>cc
> from 1915 to 2275. I doubt that I am getting 65 hp as I can only get
>92kts
> WOT, 700 fpm solo and way less at 1200 lbs. My target hp was 70.
>Finishing
> up a few projects then back to my new motor. Got 1.3 hours flying
>today.
> Ron NB Ore Kitfox IV Speedster 1915cc VW Valley Engeneering llc Redrive
> 1.6:1 72" Ivo ~55 TTEA
>
>
> >From: Malcolmbru@aol.com
> >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax VS Volks wagon Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007
> >21:18:00 EST
> >
> >how many hp and what is the weight ttl mal
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> >From photos to predictions, The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden
>Globes has
> it all. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Broken Skylight |
--- Tinne maha <tinnemaha@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi Grant,
Yes, there has been several failures of the cockpit
rib caps coming off and lifting with the skylite. I
think yours is one of the less violent, if that helps.
It has been 4-5 years sind the last one, if memory
serves....
Based upon list advice, I added aluminum angles unde
the caps and riveted them to the ribs. The skylite
bolts then go thru these angles to reinforce the caps.
I think I did every other bolt....
Congrats on your flying! Sorry about the skylite
though. Sounds like testing served its purpose, but
you will be grounded for a bit to fix it?
Kurt S. S-5
> Happy New Year to all,
>
> I'm about 12 hours into phase I testing of my S-5 TD
> with Lyc. Everything
> was going great until I decided to try slips
> yesterday. Left aileron, right
> rudder no problem (IAS = 65 mph), but right aileron,
> left rudder (same
> airspeed) & a sudden 'bang' took about 3 or 4 square
> feet off the skylight
> portion of my continuous windscreen/skylight. A
> little shook up, I slowly
> went straight home & landed without further
> incident. Among other things,
> I'm thankful that it happened with just me and 4000'
> of altitude near home
> base rather than with an unsuspecting passenger in a
> remote place on final.
>
> Before I state what I believe the cause to be, has
> anyone else had this
> experience? I couldn't find anything in the
> archives.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Grant Krueger
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| Subject: | Re: : dead-stick topic The sound Michel |
Michel,
It is often hard to find noises in vehicles, even
relatively quiet cars. One thing that may help is if
you hold the unused headset mike up to suspected
sources and listen over the intercom, squelch adjusted
accordingly. You will only hear it over the intercom
when the mike is near the source. Might help you
isolate it if the source is in reach.
If it is on the right behind the seat, the right
passanger might have to twist around a lot, unless
they do the stall while you check behind them from the
left seat.
Just an idea,
kurt S.
--- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
> Thanks for your answers, guys. I think I feel better
> knowing it's not a
> wing. I did lift my headset to hear better (but with
> the engine on) and
> it is definitively coming from right hand and behind
> me. I'll need a
> passenger to do more hearing observation. Yet a new
> reason to go out
> flying! Wow, cool! :-)
>
> Michel
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel shut offs |
Lynn and the List,
Make sure you have a way to turn off ALL the fuel,
including the header tank, if you have one. That is
what the origional header-to-engine shutoff was for.
I agree that wing tank valves come in handy,
especially for down stream fuel line work. I don't
have them yet. I just put a clamp on the hose so far,
even in flight. Worry about damaging the Tygon hose,
but so far it is fine. A fuel system re-work is in
the plan for '07.
Kurt S.
--- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
> The only difference I can see between my 'two-glass
> filters, two-
> valves' system and yours is that I can determine
> which tank the crud
> is coming from, if there should ever be any...and
> someday there
> probably will.
> Yup, my shutoffs are all the brass ball type, too.
> My Facet is also pretty much going along for the
> ride. : ) I cycle
> it occasionally.
>
> Lynn
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| Subject: | Re: dead-stick topic |
Michel,
You said it sounds like fabric ripping? Back there?
Check all your elevator/stab mounts for solid
attachment. It may take a lot of force, but then they
move a little?
Kurt S.
--- Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> wrote:
> Incidentally, I went flying a bit today, the last
> day of the year, and
> did some stalls. The sound I hear doesn't come from
> the wings. I think
> it might come from the elevator. I hear it when the
> stall starts and when I get out of it.
> Michel
>
> do not archive
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