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1. 03:01 AM - Re: Fuel shut offs (Lynn Matteson)
2. 03:42 AM - VW engines (Keith C.)
3. 02:57 PM - Brake Pads (jeff puls)
4. 03:31 PM - Re: Brake Pads (dave)
5. 04:26 PM - Re: Brake Pads (dcsfoto)
6. 06:08 PM - Re: VW engines (ron schick)
7. 06:19 PM - Brake Pads (jeff puls)
8. 08:41 PM - Re: Fuel shut offs (kurt schrader)
9. 09:42 PM - Re: Fuel shut offs (Alan Daniels)
10. 10:06 PM - Re: Fuel shut offs (kurt schrader)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel shut offs |
Hi Kurt-
My only non-shut-off-able (if that's a word) area is the first 18" of
fuel line right out of the tanks...after that come the ball valves
which are reachable while in flight, the header tank, then the easily
reachable main shutoff right on the center console. One of these days
when I need an excitement "fix", I'll shut off both ball valves, and
test the low-fuel warning system. With the valves shut off, the
header will still supply my engine until the fuel in the lines to the
header tank run out, then the low-fuel switch will trigger my panel-
mounted warning light. Testing the lightbulb is part of my 'prior to
starting engine' checklist, but checking the actual operation of the
system has to be done while the engine is running. I have done this
on the ground, but not yet in flight...no biggie, but when I need a
"pucker-factor check" I'll do it at altitude. : )
Lynn
On Jan 3, 2007, at 2:06 AM, kurt schrader wrote:
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> Lynn and the List,
>
> Make sure you have a way to turn off ALL the fuel,
> including the header tank, if you have one. That is
> what the origional header-to-engine shutoff was for.
>
> I agree that wing tank valves come in handy,
> especially for down stream fuel line work. I don't
> have them yet. I just put a clamp on the hose so far,
> even in flight. Worry about damaging the Tygon hose,
> but so far it is fine. A fuel system re-work is in
> the plan for '07.
>
> Kurt S.
>
> --- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
>
>> The only difference I can see between my 'two-glass
>> filters, two-
>> valves' system and yours is that I can determine
>> which tank the crud
>> is coming from, if there should ever be any...and
>> someday there
>> probably will.
>> Yup, my shutoffs are all the brass ball type, too.
>> My Facet is also pretty much going along for the
>> ride. : ) I cycle
>> it occasionally.
>>
>> Lynn
>
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Anyone who has/had a VW engine in a Kitfox I would appreciate any
comments.
Satisfied, comfort level, suggestions. I have been a VW freak for
decades and can comfortably tear down and build them. I am considering
building the new Super Sport. Does a larger cc VW provide satisfactory
power. I have also visited the Great Plains site and got their info.
Thanks,
KC
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Does anyone know where I can get brake pads for my Classic IV? I do not
have the split wheel but it looks like a Matco caliper but I cannot
tell. The packing list just gives me the Skystar part number. Thanks.
Jeff Classic IV
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Call George at MAtcomfg.com
Or if you want to do what I have done is use automotive pads and drill
them and rivet them on .
Works for me when in a bind. And I did a set in December and they got
10 hours now and never noticed any better or worse.
You only stopping a 1200 lb plane at 40 mph not a 4000 car from 75 mph
although the pad area is smaller.
When you got them apart make sure the calipers slide on bushings easily.
Dave
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From: jeff puls
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 5:55 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Brake Pads
Does anyone know where I can get brake pads for my Classic IV? I do
not have the split wheel but it looks like a Matco caliper but I cannot
tell. The packing list just gives me the Skystar part number. Thanks.
Jeff Classic IV
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I have a M III with the same setup. I called Matco and they knew what I needed
and I also got an o-ring kit to do a rebuild at the same time.
the parts are cheap and they are great to deal with
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85275#85275
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I am upsizing from 1915 to 2275cc to loose the lazy. The redrive helps.
There is a 2296 VW with redrive on Barnstormers.com right now. How heavy is
a Super Sport? Ron NB Ore
>From: "Keith C." <kcflys@pacbell.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: VW engines
>Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 03:40:58 -0800
>
>Anyone who has/had a VW engine in a Kitfox I would appreciate any comments.
>Satisfied, comfort level, suggestions. I have been a VW freak for decades
>and can comfortably tear down and build them. I am considering building
>the new Super Sport. Does a larger cc VW provide satisfactory power. I
>have also visited the Great Plains site and got their info.
>
>Thanks,
>KC
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Thanks for all the help guys. I'll call Matco. Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel shut offs |
Sounds good Lynn.
I didn't add the valves on my origional build, but
will add at least a left tank valve on my fuel system
rework. I want to simplify it for reliability and
move everything I can aft of the firewall to reduce
the chances of trouble in that hot spot. A fuel leak
around me isn't nearly as bad as one around the
engine, it turns out. I am usually not a "flamer".
Ha ha But my gascolator drain failure inches from my
exhaust last year got my attention. I think I had
help on that one....
Adding the left tank valve prevents crossfeed
inbalance from parking on a slope or from bad gas cap
seals in flight. Adding the second makes it all
controlable, but runs the risk of having them both off
in flight. This is really a check of my confidence in
my memory and habits to add both. ;-) But like you,
I have a low fuel light too. The light and level it
provides is part of my annual. light testing before
flight of course. I use an LED for reliability.
As always on this list, it is interesting to remember
your history here and think of all the progress you
made, Lynn.
Have a great New Year.
Kurt S. S-5
--- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
> Hi Kurt-
> My only non-shut-off-able (if that's a word) area is
> the first 18" of
> fuel line right out of the tanks...after that come
> the ball valves
> which are reachable while in flight, the header
> tank, then the easily
> reachable main shutoff right on the center console.
> One of these days
> when I need an excitement "fix", I'll shut off both
> ball valves, and
> test the low-fuel warning system. With the valves
> shut off, the
> header will still supply my engine until the fuel in
> the lines to the
> header tank run out, then the low-fuel switch will
> trigger my panel-
> mounted warning light. Testing the lightbulb is part
> of my 'prior to
> starting engine' checklist, but checking the actual
> operation of the
> system has to be done while the engine is running. I
> have done this
> on the ground, but not yet in flight...no biggie,
> but when I need a
> "pucker-factor check" I'll do it at altitude. : )
>
> Lynn
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel shut offs |
I have built them with a shutoff on each wing tank and also with just
the one shutoff in the center console. I really prefer the one with a
shutoff on each tank, but only if I have a low fuel warning system in
the header tank. Seems like I can never fly both straight and level (
among my many other faults ), and it seems like I keep the right wing
up. This fuel imbalance combined with my 220 pounds makes me left side
heavy. I built the last one, a 5/7 as close to factory as possible in
case I needed to sell it. The fuel system works fine, but parking on a
side hill will give a fuel imbalance but it has never been a problem. I
built it with and for my son who in a moment of weakness decided to get
married instead of keeping the plane. I bought his part out and have
kept it in the hangar in case he figured out how to afford it, but in
another moment of weakness they are starting a family.
kurt schrader wrote:
>
> Sounds good Lynn.
>
> I didn't add the valves on my origional build, but
> will add at least a left tank valve on my fuel system
> rework. I want to simplify it for reliability and
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel shut offs |
I considered installing the one way check valves in
the wing tank lines to prevent transfer, but not
restrict engine feeding. The problem is that you
still need to shut the fuel off to change a filter or
do other fuel system work, or you have to drain all
the fuel.
I agree, the 3 valve system seems best, 2 wing and the
main shutoff valve.
kurt S.
--- Alan Daniels <aldaniels@fmtcblue.com> wrote:
> I have built them with a shutoff on each wing tank
> and also with just
> the one shutoff in the center console. I really
> prefer the one with a
> shutoff on each tank, but only if I have a low fuel
> warning system in
> the header tank.
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