Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Wed 01/10/07


Total Messages Posted: 24



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     1. 07:02 AM - Re: Weight and Balance-KF4 with 912 was Model 4 engine swap (kitfoxmike)
     2. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: Re: Norwegian Stalls (Guy Buchanan)
     3. 07:33 AM - Re: Re: rims (dave)
     4. 07:34 AM - More Kitfox Videos (dave)
     5. 07:47 AM - Re: rims (Tom Jones)
     6. 08:04 AM - Re: Re: rims (Rexinator)
     7. 08:53 AM - Re: rims (kitfoxmike)
     8. 09:22 AM - Re: rims (Fox5flyer)
     9. 11:46 AM - Re: Re: rims (Lowell Fitt)
    10. 12:29 PM - Re: Re: rims (dave)
    11. 02:13 PM - Re: Re: Weight and Balance-KF4 with 912 was Model 4 engine swap (Noel Loveys)
    12. 02:16 PM - Re: Re: rims (Noel Loveys)
    13. 02:58 PM - Re: Re: rims (Brian Morissette)
    14. 03:14 PM - Re: Re: rims (Rexinator)
    15. 03:26 PM - Re: Re: rims (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
    16. 04:14 PM - Tire repairs (Dee Young)
    17. 04:34 PM - Re: Re: rims (kurt schrader)
    18. 04:40 PM - Re: Re: Weight and Balance-KF4 with 912 was Model 4 engine swap (kirk hull)
    19. 06:11 PM - Re: Re: rims (Todd Leiss)
    20. 06:22 PM - Re: Over-torqued GSC Prop (369PL)
    21. 06:48 PM - Re: Over-torqued GSC Prop (crazyivan)
    22. 06:57 PM - Re: Re: Weight and Balance-KF4 with 912 was Model 4 engine swap (Lyle Persels)
    23. 07:14 PM - Re: Re: Over-torqued GSC Prop (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
    24. 07:14 PM - Re: Re: rims (Rexinator)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:02:01 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Weight and Balance-KF4 with 912 was Model 4 engine swap
    From: "kitfoxmike" <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com>
    I forgot to put in that yes I had my plane leveled for all reading, I used two scales that went to 300. On the rear I used two saw horses with a door over the top and then put the tail wheel on that. The saw horses were the plastic ones. After I was done with the front weight I put one of the scales to the rear and weighed the tail. -------- kitfoxmike Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86755#86755


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    Time: 07:14:25 AM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: Re: Norwegian Stalls
    At 09:01 AM 1/9/2007, you wrote: > Is this how you see it? Yep. Guy Buchanan K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. Do not archive


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    Time: 07:33:01 AM PST US
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: rims
    Dwayne , thank you for that and it you can find them for 30$ let me know. I am going to put on the new tires on existing rims this week I hope. Incase anyone her has done them and got tips -- let me know. breaking the bead on the old tires is always tough. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwayne" <dwaynemccourt@yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:43 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: rims > > I believe that Douglas Wheel still make the ones that you are talking > about and they're pretty inexpensive. You will have to fabricate and weld > the blocks for the rotors though. They were around $30 a while back. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86715#86715 > > >


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    Time: 07:34:53 AM PST US
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Subject: More Kitfox Videos
    I still have them on my site but I have put some up on youtube as well. They are compressed a bit but a litle faster to load . http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=kitfoxflyer Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: dave To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:21 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox Videos OK I got more done the other day but I only got one put together. http://www.cfisher.com/kitfox/ Jan 7 Kitfox Take offs. The take off run is about 100 feet or so each time maybe +/- 20 feet. What would it do if a swaped for a 914 ? And how does this compare to others? Dave KF IV 582 GSC


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    Time: 07:47:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: rims
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    Dave, I fought with trying to break the bead on the old tire on the rim for a couple of hours then gave in and took it to the tire store to have them dismount the old tire and mount the new King Fox tire on the rim. I had him put the tube in the new tire too. They look pretty cool! I was afraid of bending that aluminum wheel if I got to wild with it. Tom Jones Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86761#86761


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    Time: 08:04:37 AM PST US
    From: Rexinator <rexinator@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: rims
    Dave I haven't changed tires on my Kitfox yet, but I've changed many tires on motorcycles and cars professionally. Motorcycle rims are of course much more related to use similar techniqes since I usually do them with only hand levers. I just recieved a set of those smooth tires from Mippi Ultralights and I'll eventually do it when the tires I've got are worn enough. I can offer advice for technique which should work for all rims. If someone else who has experience with the Kitfox rims responds with good information then use that. If not give me a shout and I'll write you some steps to follow. Rex Hefferan Colorado M2/582 dave wrote: > > Dwayne , thank you for that and it you can find them for 30$ let me know. > I am going to put on the new tires on existing rims this week I hope. > Incase anyone her has done them and got tips -- let me know. > breaking the bead on the old tires is always tough. > > Dave


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    Time: 08:53:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: rims
    From: "kitfoxmike" <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com>
    what I did to break the bead on my tires when I changed them last was to let all the air out(dah!) and then take my car and drive over the edge(close to the rim), poped the bead real nice and easy. -------- kitfoxmike Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86776#86776


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    Time: 09:22:18 AM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
    Subject: Re: rims
    Dave, my advice would be to take them to an ATV shop to remove the tires. They have the right equipment and damage to the wheels is minimized. Having new lugs welded on new wheels isn't a big deal, but you'll probably need to spin them on a lathe to ensure trueness when the rotors are mounted. Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:32 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: rims > > Dwayne , thank you for that and it you can find them for 30$ let me know. > I am going to put on the new tires on existing rims this week I hope. > Incase anyone her has done them and got tips -- let me know. > breaking the bead on the old tires is always tough. > > Dave > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dwayne" <dwaynemccourt@yahoo.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:43 AM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: rims > > > > > > I believe that Douglas Wheel still make the ones that you are talking > > about and they're pretty inexpensive. You will have to fabricate and weld > > the blocks for the rotors though. They were around $30 a while back. > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86715#86715 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:46:58 AM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: rims
    Rex, I would like to hear your tips. These puppies are tough to break the bead. I damaged one of my rims using a mechanical bead breaker - actually it was the hub that was damaged. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rexinator" <rexinator@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:04 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: rims > > Dave > I haven't changed tires on my Kitfox yet, but I've changed many tires on > motorcycles and cars professionally. Motorcycle rims are of course much > more related to use similar techniqes since I usually do them with only > hand levers. I just recieved a set of those smooth tires from Mippi > Ultralights and I'll eventually do it when the tires I've got are worn > enough. > I can offer advice for technique which should work for all rims. If > someone else who has experience with the Kitfox rims responds with good > information then use that. If not give me a shout and I'll write you some > steps to follow. > > Rex Hefferan > Colorado > M2/582 > > > dave wrote: > >> >> Dwayne , thank you for that and it you can find them for 30$ let me know. >> I am going to put on the new tires on existing rims this week I hope. >> Incase anyone her has done them and got tips -- let me know. >> breaking the bead on the old tires is always tough. >> >> Dave > > >


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    Time: 12:29:08 PM PST US
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: rims
    Rex, Would be more than happy to hear your input. I have done ATV ones as well and I know they are ral tough to get tbe bead over the bead lock rib. I might screw up the rims but i am going to look at it and make a tool to break the bead . If i screw it up I will be looking fora wheel soon : ( If I am successful , well I will share as well. Hopefully the latter. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rexinator" <rexinator@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:04 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: rims > > Dave > I haven't changed tires on my Kitfox yet, but I've changed many tires on > motorcycles and cars professionally. Motorcycle rims are of course much > more related to use similar techniqes since I usually do them with only > hand levers. I just recieved a set of those smooth tires from Mippi > Ultralights and I'll eventually do it when the tires I've got are worn > enough. > I can offer advice for technique which should work for all rims. If > someone else who has experience with the Kitfox rims responds with good > information then use that. If not give me a shout and I'll write you some > steps to follow. > > Rex Hefferan > Colorado > M2/582 > > > dave wrote: > >> >> Dwayne , thank you for that and it you can find them for 30$ let me know. >> I am going to put on the new tires on existing rims this week I hope. >> Incase anyone her has done them and got tips -- let me know. >> breaking the bead on the old tires is always tough. >> >> Dave > > >


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    Time: 02:13:43 PM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: Weight and Balance-KF4 with 912 was Model 4 engine
    swap I checked the local Walco (you know who) store to day and they had analogue scales $9.95 ea. for that price 2 sets won't break the bank.... If the weight goes over the 300 mark you have to get out of the plane to weigh it :-) Noel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > kitfoxmike > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:31 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Weight and Balance-KF4 with 912 was > Model 4 engine swap > > > > I forgot to put in that yes I had my plane leveled for all > reading, I used two scales that went to 300. On the rear I > used two saw horses with a door over the top and then put the > tail wheel on that. The saw horses were the plastic ones. > After I was done with the front weight I put one of the > scales to the rear and weighed the tail. > > -------- > kitfoxmike > Do not archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86755#86755 > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:16:28 PM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: rims
    I used to break the bead by driving over the sidewall of the tire with another vehicle. Just be sure not to drive over the rim itself. Noel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:17 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: rims > > > > Dave, > I fought with trying to break the bead on the old tire on the > rim for a couple of hours then gave in and took it to the > tire store to have them dismount the old tire and mount the > new King Fox tire on the rim. I had him put the tube in the > new tire too. They look pretty cool! > > I was afraid of bending that aluminum wheel if I got to wild with it. > Tom Jones > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86761#86761 > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:58:24 PM PST US
    From: "Brian Morissette" <brianm@snolab.ca>
    Subject: Re: rims
    Hi The method I have been using for years to break tire beads is to place the jack base on the side wall next to the rim then simple jack the jack. As you try to lift your truck the base pushes downward harder and harder breaking the bead most times on the first try. This works much better if using the old style bumper jack or similar. Hope this helps Brian -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:16 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: rims I used to break the bead by driving over the sidewall of the tire with another vehicle. Just be sure not to drive over the rim itself. Noel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:17 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: rims > > > > Dave, > I fought with trying to break the bead on the old tire on the rim for > a couple of hours then gave in and took it to the tire store to have > them dismount the old tire and mount the new King Fox tire on the rim. > I had him put the tube in the new tire too. They look pretty cool! > > I was afraid of bending that aluminum wheel if I got to wild with it. > Tom Jones > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86761#86761 > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:14:04 PM PST US
    From: Rexinator <rexinator@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: rims
    OK here goes with my advice to change tires. Obviously these are similar to ATV rims and a good dealer may do it properly, but most do not garrantee that no damage will occur. Since many of us are DIY types we can enjoy the process if it doesn't get too aggravating. Changing tires can do that so I'll stress the most important tips. TIP NUMBER ONE: THINK EACH STEP THROUGH BEFORE YOU START IT AND IMAGINE WHAT MIGHT GO WRONG! Breaking the bead is expected to be tough. Kitfoxmike has a good suggestion using a car to break the bead loose from the rim. Of course you will want to protect the rim from scratches so place it on something like a floor mat. First try to wedge the tire in place under the car tire. I suggest someone to drive the car slowly while you hold the rim and let the car tire approach the kitfox tire/rim so as to entirely miss the rim (this may seem obvious, but advice like this shouldn't allow anything unsaid.) What you are wanting to do is pinch the tire just enough accomplish the task. This might best be done in small "bites". You may not need to drive onto the maximum amount of kitfox tire to get it done. Make sure that both sides of the rim are loose before going on to the next step. If this doesn't work, here's what we do when we get a motorcycle flat out in the boonies to break the bead while on the side of the trail. Use the kick stand and lean the weight of the motorcycle at the edge of the rim. You may want to get 2 or 3 tire levers from a motorcycle shop to work the tire off the rim. Place the wheel on the floor mat and get ready to remove the tire from the rim.There are also accessories called rim protectors which may help protect the rim from tire lever damage. The biggest advice here is: TIRE LEVERS SHOULD ONLY LEVER SMALL SECTIONS OF BEAD AT A TIME. Use a very small amount of dishwashing liquid in water to lubricate the tire bead only just where it will roll over the rim. MAKE SURE YOU HOLD AS MUCH BEAD INTO THE LOWEST AREA OF THE INTERIOR OF THE RIM WHILE YOU LEVER THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BEAD A LITTLE AT A TIME OVER THE OUTSIDE OF THE RIM. You should be knelling with your knees holding the tire beads in position. Position the "spoon" of a lever under the lip of the rim and hook under the bead. Try to fit 2 levers side by side near each other (maybe an inch or 2 apart) and move one lever at a time to work the bead off the rim. Once you get the second lever rotated and i'st part of the bead over the rim you should be able to pull the first one free and position it on the other side of the second one just as close to it as you can to minimize the amount of bead you are attempting to lever off the rim. SMALL "BITES" is the rule here. Otherwise you risk bending the rim. You should not need to put very much force on each lever each time you rotate it over the rim edge. If you are having to grunt you probably aready bent a rim. Putting the new tire on the rim is usually much easier. Turn the spoon of the lever around to hook under the inside of the rim instead of the bead. Always check that you have as much bead in the lowest part of the wheel as possible whether mounting or unmounting a tire. Good Luck and if it gets to be too much of a challenge it's better to seek professional help. I'll be out of contact until Thursday afternoon. Rex Colorado dave wrote: > > Rex, > > Would be more than happy to hear your input. > I have done ATV ones as well and I know they are ral tough to get tbe > bead over the bead lock rib. > > I might screw up the rims but i am going to look at it and make a > tool to break the bead . > > If i screw it up I will be looking fora wheel soon : ( > If I am successful , well I will share as well. > > > Hopefully the latter. > > Dave > >


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    Time: 03:26:58 PM PST US
    From: Malcolmbru@aol.com
    Subject: Re: rims
    I had to cut the tire off with a knife and chisel and put some antisez to stop it from happening again mal


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    Time: 04:14:52 PM PST US
    From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
    Subject: Tire repairs
    Something that has worked very well for me over the years. Before installing the tire smear the tire bead and rim with a small amount of anti freeze much like they do when installing a tubeless tire. This will help keep the rubber soft, will help prevent bead leaks and seems to prevents th bead from sticking to the rim. When it is time to change the tire you can let the air out and break the bead by hand. Dee Young Model II Do Not Archive


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    Time: 04:34:15 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: rims
    What my father used to do with tubless tires was take out the valve stem and hook a vacuum pump to it. For tube tires, using the jack to press down on the tire just missing the rim was the most controlled method he used. Haven't had to change mine yet.... Kurt S. --- kitfoxmike <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com> wrote: > what I did to break the bead on my tires when I > changed them last was to let all the air out(dah!) > and then take my car and drive over the edge(close > to the rim), poped the bead real nice and easy. > > -------- > kitfoxmike > Do not archive __________________________________________________


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    Time: 04:40:30 PM PST US
    From: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@kc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Weight and Balance-KF4 with 912 was Model 4 engine
    swap If you are close to Kansas City MO. You can rent the EAA chapter scales for $10.00 ( up to 2500 lb) -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:13 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Weight and Balance-KF4 with 912 was Model 4 engine swap I checked the local Walco (you know who) store to day and they had analogue scales $9.95 ea. for that price 2 sets won't break the bank.... If the weight goes over the 300 mark you have to get out of the plane to weigh it :-) Noel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > kitfoxmike > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:31 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Weight and Balance-KF4 with 912 was > Model 4 engine swap > > > > I forgot to put in that yes I had my plane leveled for all > reading, I used two scales that went to 300. On the rear I > used two saw horses with a door over the top and then put the > tail wheel on that. The saw horses were the plastic ones. > After I was done with the front weight I put one of the > scales to the rear and weighed the tail. > > -------- > kitfoxmike > Do not archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86755#86755 > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:11:10 PM PST US
    From: "Todd Leiss" <tleiss@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: rims
    I took my rims to my local golf course maintenance shop, They have a tire machine for the small rims. The guys there were happy to help. Took off the old tires, I took the rims home and polished them and a few days later brought them back and they put the tires back on. They wouldn't even let me buy them a beer. I did try. Todd Leiss Model IV Speedster 912UL > [Original Message] > From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Date: 1/10/2007 7:39:04 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: rims > <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > What my father used to do with tubless tires was take > out the valve stem and hook a vacuum pump to it. > > For tube tires, using the jack to press down on the > tire just missing the rim was the most controlled > method he used. > > Haven't had to change mine yet.... > > Kurt S. > > --- kitfoxmike <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > what I did to break the bead on my tires when I > > changed them last was to let all the air out(dah!) > > and then take my car and drive over the edge(close > > to the rim), poped the bead real nice and easy. > > > > -------- > > kitfoxmike > > Do not archive > > __________________________________________________ > >


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    Time: 06:22:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Over-torqued GSC Prop
    From: "369PL" <n3pupnc@AOL.COM>
    Is there a minimum space? Maybe it could be checked with feeler blades. Does anyone know what the spec is? or is enough to say there is a space? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86856#86856


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    Time: 06:48:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Over-torqued GSC Prop
    From: "crazyivan" <dmivezic@yahoo.com>
    Thier service bulletin just calls for a "visible gap." http://www.ultralightprops.com/bulletins/051799_sb.pdf -------- Dave Speedster 912 UL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86857#86857


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    Time: 06:57:58 PM PST US
    From: Lyle Persels <lpers@mchsi.com>
    Subject: Re: Weight and Balance-KF4 with 912 was Model 4 engine
    swap Again, thanks to all for the suggestions. I have access to certified aircraft scales, so weighing is no problem. I've used them before and have an excellent previous weight and balance. I just wanted to avoid reweighing since I have a relatively small weight change not far from the cg. Of course I understand and agree that the best, most accurate course is to do it all again with the new engine. Maybe I'll be surprised. I'll let you know the results of the new weighing as well as what my FSDO says. And I'll also post a price on my used 912 UL before long. Lyle On 01 10, 07, at 6:40 PM, kirk hull wrote: > > If you are close to Kansas City MO. You can rent the EAA chapter > scales for > $10.00 ( up to 2500 lb) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel > Loveys > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:13 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Weight and Balance-KF4 with 912 was > Model 4 > engine swap > > > I checked the local Walco (you know who) store to day and they had > analogue > scales $9.95 ea. for that price 2 sets won't break the bank.... If > the > weight goes over the 300 mark you have to get out of the plane to > weigh it > :-) > > > Noel > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >> kitfoxmike >> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:31 AM >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Weight and Balance-KF4 with 912 was >> Model 4 engine swap >> >> >> <kitfoxmike@yahoo.com> >> >> I forgot to put in that yes I had my plane leveled for all >> reading, I used two scales that went to 300. On the rear I >> used two saw horses with a door over the top and then put the >> tail wheel on that. The saw horses were the plastic ones. >> After I was done with the front weight I put one of the >> scales to the rear and weighed the tail. >> >> -------- >> kitfoxmike >> Do not archive >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=86755#86755 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 07:14:19 PM PST US
    From: Malcolmbru@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Over-torqued GSC Prop
    call gsc they told me about over torking and shims for tracking. they are nice to talk to . mal


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    Time: 07:14:56 PM PST US
    From: Rexinator <rexinator@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: rims
    I was rushed to finish my previous post about tire changing and failed to remember to include the tube removal and replacement. As it turns out I had a change in plans and I'm back in range of the internet. The tube procedure is pretty simple so shouldn't cause much problem. Here is what I should have included. After working one side of the tire off the rim you then reach inside the tire and remove the tube. There may be a nut that holds the valve stem to the rim, if so you must remove it first. Installing a tube is the reverse of the removal steps. There can be difficulty with some motorcycle tires in being able to manipulate the valve stem into the hole in the rim through the small gap between the rim and the tire bead. I don't expect this problem with the kitfox rim and tires. Others with experience will have to advise us of their experience. Some others have posted the use of a vehicle jack to act as a bead breaker and that is a great solution which I forgot about. There is the stated problem that they are not the style typical of most cars now days. I hope I've remembered the procedure completely and this helps folks enough to ease the process. I'll try to find the time soon to change a Kitfox tire myself and refine these instructions. Then I'll post it to the Kitfox Wikipedia and include photos. Meanwhile I'll check my email several times a day in case anyone would like any clarification. Just send me or the list your question. I've done a page a few years ago showing an easier and quick way to replace certain motorcycle fork seals without the special tools normally needed. Here's a link to that if anyone is interested in what the instructions might resemble. www.klr650.marknet.us/*Fork*_*Seal*s.pdf Rex Colorado




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