---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 01/27/07: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:30 AM - Re: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in Note on LSA as well (dave) 2. 05:23 AM - Re: NSI Engine help. (fox5flyer) 3. 05:47 AM - Re: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in (fox5flyer) 4. 06:06 AM - Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in (Rexster) 5. 06:09 AM - Re: NSI Engine help. (Michael Logan) 6. 06:13 AM - Re: NSI Engine help. (Michael Logan) 7. 06:30 AM - Re: NSI Engine help. (GENTRYLL@aol.com) 8. 06:33 AM - Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in (Rexster) 9. 07:26 AM - Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in (kitfoxmike) 10. 07:34 AM - Re: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in (Marco Menezes) 11. 07:41 AM - Re: Fuel Flow, continued. (Marco Menezes) 12. 08:43 AM - Re: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in (Michel Verheughe) 13. 10:36 AM - Re: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in (Ted Palamarek) 14. 10:39 AM - Re: NSI Engine help. (Floyd Johnson) 15. 10:47 AM - Ignition pickup (Floyd Johnson) 16. 10:59 AM - Re:NSI extra engine parts. (Floyd Johnson) 17. 11:21 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow, continued.Fuel Flow, continued. (Torgeir Mortensen) 18. 01:25 PM - Re: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in (Noel Loveys) 19. 02:35 PM - Fuel Flow, continued. (Torgeir Mortensen) 20. 07:35 PM - Re: Re:NSI extra engine parts. (kurt schrader) 21. 07:46 PM - Re: Fuel Flow, continued. (kurt schrader) 22. 09:25 PM - which paint (jerry evans) 23. 10:26 PM - Re: which paint (Joel) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:52 AM PST US From: "dave" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in Note on LSA as well Lynn , Good luck !! And what i meant for landing in untracked snow was in he event you land other than at Ski flyin. forgot to mention -- don't forget your winter survival kit. And If you going near the border, do you need a passport? Us Canadians need a passport to fly Toronto to Vancouver now as we do fly "over " US Soil . Go figure !! Another thing some might not know is that a LSA pilot from USA without a aviation medical is not legal to fly in Canada. This will be looked at again in a few months when FAA meets with Transport Canada. But that being said this was brought up at a Transport Canada meeting a few weks ago and it was summarized like this ........ "The plane can come in if he asks permission beforehand. It is not an automatic online admossion like for amateur-builts, but they will not refuse the plane. The minimum US license currently accepted by Ottawa is the Private. There will be a meeting with the FAA in May at which this might be relaxed to accept the Sport Pilot ticket if it is validated by a category 3 or 4 medical " Hope this helps , Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:35 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in > > do not archive > Thanks, Dave...pictures coming right up...stills that is. > The trip hasn't even started yet and I already caught two typos in the > landing procedures that were emailed to me from EAA...not a big deal, > just saying on one hand that you're heading for downwind, and on the > other hand that you're heading for final...like I say, just a small > matter. : ) Oh, yeah, another small matter was the reference to the Red > Barn as a landmark just north of the field....don't look for it, I was > told, as they demolished it two weeks ago....ho hum. > > They are expecting maybe 100 planes, and when I called today, with about > 2 hours left in their day, they gave me registration number 53, so there > may not be as many as they think. With 53-100 planes packing the snow, I > gotta think that it'll be bumpy and skatey. > I'm planning to leave there later in the day and heading back the > northern route, and staying someplace in Upper Michigan for the night, > then maybe heading to the Bush Planes Museum in Sault Ste. Marie, > Ontario....maybe. I'm taking my birth certificate in case I do that. I'd > land stateside, and take ground transportation into Canada, eh? : ) > > Lynn > do not archive > On Jan 26, 2007, at 8:19 PM, dave wrote: > >> >> Lynn, --------------------- Good luck on your trip. ---------------- >> >> >> I love Ski fly ins. >> >> Also if you do not have a metal runner on bottom of ski you will not >> get much sticking. >> One thing I would suggest is to lift up each ski and put a stick under >> each ski to be sure. >> One thing i Usually do prior to getting in the plane is grab the strut >> and move the plane back and forth a bit to ensure you not stuck. Or >> grab the tail handle and move it side to side and watch each ski to >> make sure they loose. >> >> Also if landing in deep snow make sure you land and don't stop until you >> go in a loop an d come back to the tracks you just made if possbile. >> If not you might be looking at tramping down a path to get back out. >> >> Another thing is make sure you not in slush, once you bog down in it you >> will have trouble getting moving again. Even though there is 2 feet of >> ice but yet 12 inches of slush will be a mess to get out of. And since >> you on wheel skis always be ready for a frozen wheel on landing. >> >> Take some sunglasses and different colours if you have them as it hard >> to see the surface on gray days. >> >> And don;'t forget to take some pics to remind us what a great time it >> was. >> >> Fly safe ! >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 6:07 PM >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in >> >> >>> >>> I spoke with O'kosh today, and the wind was blowing the snow around, >>> but they are still a go for tomorrow, as am I. >>> Yeah, thank God for plastic...I'm a "newbie" on skis, and I'm already >>> spoiled. >>> >>> Lynn >>> do not archive >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:12 PM, kitfoxmike wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> from my snowmobile days, we did have problems with ski's sticking in >>>> the snow, then came the plastic ski's, wow now we were spoiled pups, >>>> slide and no stick in the snow, no build up of snow on the ski's >>>> either. hope this helps. >>>> >>>> -------- >>>> kitfoxmike >>>> Do not archive >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:10 AM PST US From: "fox5flyer" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. Thanks for the info Floyd. You sure had your share of problems. Were you the original owner. Is it the normally aspirated or turbo? So far so good with mine. Only a couple easily resolved minor issues (seal, spark plug) that caused me any trouble in just shy of 400 hours. It's still configured just as it was delivered. Keep us updated as your testing progresses. Deke S5 ---- Original Message ---- From: kitfox69@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. >Hi Deke, > > Do you have a couple of hours? I would do this off line, but >it will probably be valuable to other >NSI engine drivers. I'll stick to the details and spare everyone the >10 years of frustratiion. > I tore the engine down, finally, and asked Jay Roese to check it >out. He was refered to me by a friend >who knows him well. The engine was apart when Jay first saw it and he >had some immediate observations. >First off, the engine was advertised as having an 8.6 compression >ratio. It had 7.7pistons in it. For the uninnitiated, > that means the compression ratio was 7.7:1. Next, the pistons and >rods were missmatched. In other words, from >two different engines. A total NO NO. Jay next asked if the engine >had been overheated? The answer was yes, >because the engine wasn't purged at NSI and their radiator was too >small, which they replaced with one which >was still too small. Eventually Jay figured that out by getting >engine cooling needs specs from Subaru engineers, >then took it to RIT for a flow test, where they determined that the >latest NSI radiator only had 85% of the engines needed >cooling capacity. The reason he asked was that he suspected, and >later varified, that the cylinders and pistons were >oval as a result of overheating. > He instantly recognized that the cam was ground into the core >shaft, so that was trashed too. >At this point he took the engine back to his shop and did a through >check. We completely overhauled it. Bored the >cylinders, new 8.9:1 pistons and rings, new stock cam, and anything >else he deemed necessary. Basically, the >block and bearings were OK. We just replaced seals. The heads were OK >and didn't need any work. >Next came the SFDI ignition abortion. Jay investigates everything! He >is dedicated and very through, so he contacted >Electromotive, who supplies the modules. They told him that there is >no way that system could work. The two systems >were working against each other. I decided to just use one module, >base on the 30 year reliability of electronic ignition >systems on automobiles. My Decision! So far, so good. > Next, he used a exhaust computer module to check that part out. >Surprise!, the NSI system is very inefficient, so he built me a >very simple tuned exhaust system. I built a carb heat unit which >works well. > He determined that the air volume needs of the engine were more than >the Ellison EFS2 could supply, so I opted for an >EFS3A which actually provides too much air, but that was easilly >remedied by restricting the FULL OPEN throttle movement. >In a week or two, we are going to address the oil system. According >to Jay, the engine is designed to run ar '0" or negative >pressure. With the oil tank where it is, it is pressurizing the >crankcase to 4 to 5 PSI. Probably why I have seen some postings >here about blown seals. He is going to design a tank which fits under >and behind the dry sump oil pan. I'll keep everyone posted on the >results. > I'm sure there is more, but with so many changes, it is hard to >remember what else we tackled. >I would urge anyone with questions to contact Jay. He will talk to >you in laymans terms and you will understand what he >is telling you. I hope this helps folks having problems with these >engines. > I now have about 20 hours on the engine and it is running well and >has more torque than it ever had before. >Best regards, Floyd > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Fox5flyer >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Sent: 1/26/2007 2:36:00 PM >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. > > >Good to hear from you Floyd and thanks for the information. Can you >tell us what some of the problems you were having with your NSI? >Deke > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Floyd Johnson >To: Kitfox-List >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:07 AM >Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. > > >For you pilots flying behind NSI EA 81 engines who are having >problems, I have a reference to help you. >Jay Roese in the Rochester, New York area solved my multitude of NSI >Engine problems. I highly >recommend him. He has agreed to talk to anyone who needs his >expertise. He has an extensive background >with Subaru engines and builds racing engines a well as rebuilds >engines for car dealers. I now have a SMOOOOOTH >running Subaru engine in my MOD IV Kitfox, thanks to Jay. This not >meant in any way as an advertisement, only as a help for those NSI >engine owners who are having problems. > > His E-Mail addrss is: phatbasstrd@rochester.rr.com > His Cell #: 1-585-729-5098 > > >Floyd Johnson >kitfox69@earthlink.net >EarthLink Revolves Around You. > > >href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matr >onhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com WebMail Express+ - http://www.i-star.com Internet Access from $7.95 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:47:26 AM PST US From: "fox5flyer" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in Bon Voyage Lynn. I didn't catch when you were leaving and returning, but on the way home if you need a place to stay for the night I'm about 30 air minutes south of Alpena MI. I'm downstate right now and won't be home until Monday. Let me know. Deke ---- Original Message ---- From: lynnmatt@jps.net Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in > >do not archive >Thanks, Dave...pictures coming right up...stills that is. >The trip hasn't even started yet and I already caught two typos in >the landing procedures that were emailed to me from EAA...not a big >deal, just saying on one hand that you're heading for downwind, and >on the other hand that you're heading for final...like I say, just a > >small matter. : ) Oh, yeah, another small matter was the reference >to the Red Barn as a landmark just north of the field....don't look >for it, I was told, as they demolished it two weeks ago....ho hum. > >They are expecting maybe 100 planes, and when I called today, with >about 2 hours left in their day, they gave me registration number 53, > >so there may not be as many as they think. With 53-100 planes packing > >the snow, I gotta think that it'll be bumpy and skatey. >I'm planning to leave there later in the day and heading back the >northern route, and staying someplace in Upper Michigan for the >night, then maybe heading to the Bush Planes Museum in Sault Ste. >Marie, Ontario....maybe. I'm taking my birth certificate in case I do > >that. I'd land stateside, and take ground transportation into Canada, > >eh? : ) > >Lynn >do not archive >On Jan 26, 2007, at 8:19 PM, dave wrote: > >> >> Lynn, --------------------- Good luck on your trip. >---------------- >> >> >> I love Ski fly ins. >> >> Also if you do not have a metal runner on bottom of ski you will >> not get much sticking. >> One thing I would suggest is to lift up each ski and put a stick >> under each ski to be sure. >> One thing i Usually do prior to getting in the plane is grab the >> strut and move the plane back and forth a bit to ensure you not >> stuck. Or grab the tail handle and move it side to side and watch > >> each ski to make sure they loose. >> >> Also if landing in deep snow make sure you land and don't stop >> until you go in a loop an d come back to the tracks you just made > >> if possbile. If not you might be looking at tramping down a path > >> to get back out. >> >> Another thing is make sure you not in slush, once you bog down in >> it you will have trouble getting moving again. Even though there is > >> 2 feet of ice but yet 12 inches of slush will be a mess to get out > >> of. And since you on wheel skis always be ready for a frozen >> wheel on landing. >> >> Take some sunglasses and different colours if you have them as it >> hard to see the surface on gray days. >> >> And don;'t forget to take some pics to remind us what a great time > >> it was. >> >> Fly safe ! >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" > >> To: >> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 6:07 PM >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in >> >> > >>> >>> I spoke with O'kosh today, and the wind was blowing the snow >>> around, but they are still a go for tomorrow, as am I. >>> Yeah, thank God for plastic...I'm a "newbie" on skis, and I'm >>> already spoiled. >>> >>> Lynn >>> do not archive >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:12 PM, kitfoxmike wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> from my snowmobile days, we did have problems with ski's >>>> sticking in the snow, then came the plastic ski's, wow now we >>>> were spoiled pups, slide and no stick in the snow, no build up >>>> of snow on the ski's either. hope this helps. >>>> >>>> -------- >>>> kitfoxmike >>>> Do not archive >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > WebMail Express+ - http://www.i-star.com Internet Access from $7.95 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:53 AM PST US From: "Rexster" Subject: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in "downstate.............................................................. ...meeting Rex and Emily!" I predict we'll be pulling in to Frankenmuth between 11:00 and 11:30 Rex -- "fox5flyer" wrote: Bon Voyage Lynn. I didn't catch when you were leaving and returning, but on the way home if you need a place to stay for the night I'm about 30 air minutes south of Alpena MI. I'm downstate right now and won't be home until Monday. Let me know. Deke ---- Original Message ---- From: lynnmatt@jps.net Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in > >do not archive >Thanks, Dave...pictures coming right up...stills that is. >The trip hasn't even started yet and I already caught two typos in >the landing procedures that were emailed to me from EAA...not a big >deal, just saying on one hand that you're heading for downwind, and >on the other hand that you're heading for final...like I say, just a > >small matter. : ) Oh, yeah, another small matter was the reference >to the Red Barn as a landmark just north of the field....don't look >for it, I was told, as they demolished it two weeks ago....ho hum. > >They are expecting maybe 100 planes, and when I called today, with >about 2 hours left in their day, they gave me registration number 53, > >so there may not be as many as they think. With 53-100 planes packing > >the snow, I gotta think that it'll be bumpy and skatey. >I'm planning to leave there later in the day and heading back the >northern route, and staying someplace in Upper Michigan for the >night, then maybe heading to the Bush Planes Museum in Sault Ste. >Marie, Ontario....maybe. I'm taking my birth certificate in case I do > >that. I'd land stateside, and take ground transportation into Canada, > >eh? : ) > >Lynn >do not archive >On Jan 26, 2007, at 8:19 PM, dave wrote: > >> >> Lynn, --------------------- Good luck on your trip. >---------------- >> >> >> I love Ski fly ins. >> >> Also if you do not have a metal runner on bottom of ski you will >> not get much sticking. >> One thing I would suggest is to lift up each ski and put a stick >> under each ski to be sure. >> One thing i Usually do prior to getting in the plane is grab the >> strut and move the plane back and forth a bit to ensure you not >> stuck. Or grab the tail handle and move it side to side and watch > >> each ski to make sure they loose. >> >> Also if landing in deep snow make sure you land and don't stop >> until you go in a loop an d come back to the tracks you just made > >> if possbile. If not you might be looking at tramping down a path > >> to get back out. >> >> Another thing is make sure you not in slush, once you bog down in >> it you will have trouble getting moving again. Even though there is > >> 2 feet of ice but yet 12 inches of slush will be a mess to get out > >> of. And since you on wheel skis always be ready for a frozen >> wheel on landing. >> >> Take some sunglasses and different colours if you have them as it >> hard to see the surface on gray days. >> >> And don;'t forget to take some pics to remind us what a great time > >> it was. >> >> Fly safe ! >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" > >> To: >> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 6:07 PM >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in >> >> > >>> >>> I spoke with O'kosh today, and the wind was blowing the snow >>> around, but they are still a go for tomorrow, as am I. >>> Yeah, thank God for plastic...I'm a "newbie" on skis, and I'm >>> already spoiled. >>> >>> Lynn >>> do not archive >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:12 PM, kitfoxmike wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> from my snowmobile days, we did have problems with ski's >>>> sticking in the snow, then came the plastic ski's, wow now we >>>> were spoiled pups, slide and no stick in the snow, no build up >>>> of snow on the ski's either. hope this helps. >>>> >>>> -------- >>>> kitfoxmike >>>> Do not archive >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > WebMail Express+ - http://www.i-star.com Internet Access from $7.95 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== ===========

"downstate..................................................... ............meeting Rex and Emily!"

I predict we'll be pulling in to Frankenmuth between 11:00 and 11:30< /P>

Rex


-- "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "fox5 flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>


Bon Voyage  ;Lynn.  I didn't catch when you were& nbsp;leaving and returning,
but on the way&n bsp;home if you need a place to stay& nbsp;for the night I'm
about 30 air min utes south of Alpena MI.  I'm downsta te right now and
won't be home until&nb sp;Monday.  Let me know.
Deke


----&nbs p;Original Message ----
From: lynnmatt@jps.net
To:& nbsp;kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:&nb sp;Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in
Date: Fri, 26  Jan 2007 22:35:03 -0500

>--> Kitf ox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson & lt;lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
>do not archive
>T hanks, Dave...pictures coming right up...stills  ;that is.
>The trip hasn't even started&n bsp;yet and I already caught two typos&nbs p;in  
>the landing procedures that  were emailed to me from EAA...not a b ig  
>deal, just saying on one  hand that you're heading for downwind, and   
>on the other hand that you' re heading for final...like I say,  j ust a
> 
>small matter. : ) &n bsp;Oh, yeah, another small matter was the  reference  
>to the Red Barn a s a landmark just north of the field. ...don't look  
>for it, I was  told, as they demolished it two weeks  ;ago....ho hum.
>
>They are expecting ma ybe 100 planes, and when I called tod ay, with  
>about 2 hours left  in their day, they gave me registration&nb sp;number 53,
> 
>so there may not& nbsp;be as many as they think. With 5 3-100 planes packing
> 
>the snow,  I gotta think that it'll be bumpy and  skatey.
>I'm planning to leave there&nbs p;later in the day and heading back t he  
>northern route, and staying so meplace in Upper Michigan for the  >night, then maybe heading to the Bus h Planes Museum in Sault Ste.  
&g t;Marie, Ontario....maybe. I'm taking my birth& nbsp;certificate in case I do
> 
>t hat. I'd land stateside, and take ground&n bsp;transportation into Canada,
> 
>eh?  : )
>
>Lynn
>do not archive
>On&n bsp;Jan 26, 2007, at 8:19 PM, dave wr ote:
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message  posted by: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
>>
>> Lynn, ---------------------   Good&nb sp;luck on your trip.
>----------------
>>
>>
>> I love Ski fly ins.
>>
>> Also if you do not h ave a  metal runner on bottom of  ;ski you will  
>> not get m uch sticking.
>> One thing I would&nbs p;suggest is to lift up each ski and& nbsp;put a stick  
>> under each& nbsp;ski to be sure.
>> One thing  ;i Usually do prior to getting in the  plane is grab the  
>> stru t and move  the plane back and f orth a bit to ensure you not  >> stuck.  Or grab  the tail& nbsp;handle and move it side to side  and watch
> 
>> each ski to  ;make sure they loose.
>>
>> Also& nbsp;if landing in deep snow make sure&nbs p;you land and don't stop  
>>&nb sp;until you go in a loop an d c ome back to  the tracks you just  ;made 
>
>> if possbile.    If not you might be looking at trampi ng down a path 
>
>> to get  back out.
>>
>> Another thing&nbs p;is make sure you not in slush, once  you bog down in  
>> it&nbs p;you will have trouble getting moving aga in. Even though there is
> 
>>&n bsp;2 feet of ice but yet 12 inches&n bsp;of slush  will be a mess to  get out
> 
>> of.  And sinc e you on wheel skis  always be r eady for a frozen  
>> wheel  ;on landing.
>>
>> Take some sungl asses and different colours if you have&nb sp;them as it  
>> hard to s ee the surface  on gray days.
>>< BR>>> And don;'t forget to take some  pics  to remind us what a great  time
> 
>> it was.
>>
&g t;> Fly safe !
>>
>> Dave
&g t;>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original  ;Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson"
><lynn matt@jps.net>
>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com >
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007  6:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:& nbsp;Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in
>>
>>< BR>>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted&nb sp;by: Lynn Matteson
><lynnmatt@jps.net>
>&g t;>
>>> I spoke with O'kosh toda y, and the wind was blowing the snow& nbsp; 
>>> around,  but they a re still a go for tomorrow, as am&nbs p;I.
>>> Yeah, thank God for plasti c...I'm a "newbie" on skis, and I'm & nbsp;
>>> already spoiled.
>>>
> >> Lynn
>>> do not archive
> >>
>>> On Jan 26, 2007, at&nb sp;1:12 PM, kitfoxmike wrote:
>>>
>> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by:& nbsp;"kitfoxmike"   
>>>> <customt rans@qwest.net>
>>>>
>>>> from&nbs p;my snowmobile days, we did have problems  with ski's  
>>>> sticking  ; in the snow, then came the plastic& nbsp;ski's, wow now we  
>>>>&nb sp;were spoiled  pups, slide and no s tick in the snow, no build up  < BR>>>>> of snow on the  ski's& nbsp;either.  hope this helps.
>>>>>>>> --------
>>>> kitfoxmike
>>>> Do not archive
>>>>
&g t;>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
&g t;>>
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________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:18 AM PST US From: "Michael Logan" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. Should that be directignition.com? They are located about 50 miles north of here in Manassas, VA. I have talked to them a number of times and they are very helpful. I am not sure what you mean by the wedge shaped pickup. Is it a crank mount? If it is, what did you use for mounting the parts? I still have the NSI system in my hangar but I am using the Real World Solutions ignition and injector system with the NSI ignition pickups. The NSI system has the toothed wheel attached to the flywheel end of the crank and the sensors are attached to the inside of the "bell housing." Mike _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Floyd Johnson Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:44 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. I'm currently using the new Electromotive WEDGE SHAPED pickup. It is much more precise. I can get the part number for you, or you can go to ELECTROMOTIVE.COM and find it. They have a complete manual for the ignition modules which you can download. It has all the information you would need for troubleshooting etc. Be sure to download the one for your particular module. Floyd ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Logan Sent: 1/26/2007 7:13:43 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. Floyd, What are you using for the pickups on the ignition now that you have gone to one module? Mike _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Floyd Johnson Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. For you pilots flying behind NSI EA 81 engines who are having problems, I have a reference to help you. Jay Roese in the Rochester, New York area solved my multitude of NSI Engine problems. I highly recommend him. He has agreed to talk to anyone who needs his expertise. He has an extensive background with Subaru engines and builds racing engines a well as rebuilds engines for car dealers. I now have a SMOOOOOTH running Subaru engine in my MOD IV Kitfox, thanks to Jay. This not meant in any way as an advertisement, only as a help for those NSI engine owners who are having problems. His E-Mail addrss is: phatbasstrd@rochester.rr.com His Cell #: 1-585-729-5098 Floyd Johnson kitfox69@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref "http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:39 AM PST US From: "Michael Logan" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. By the way, I hated my NSI system. It never ran smooth, did not develop power like it should and always ran very hot. When I tore the engine down, I found some "extra" parts that Lance and his crew left that blocked off some of the oil flow. I know they were extra because I was very careful in counting up all the little parts that I took out. I had RAM engines build up an engine for me and am working on the installation now. It is a very smooth and powerful running engine, much more power than NSI. Mike _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Floyd Johnson Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:44 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. I'm currently using the new Electromotive WEDGE SHAPED pickup. It is much more precise. I can get the part number for you, or you can go to ELECTROMOTIVE.COM and find it. They have a complete manual for the ignition modules which you can download. It has all the information you would need for troubleshooting etc. Be sure to download the one for your particular module. Floyd ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Logan Sent: 1/26/2007 7:13:43 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. Floyd, What are you using for the pickups on the ignition now that you have gone to one module? Mike _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Floyd Johnson Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. For you pilots flying behind NSI EA 81 engines who are having problems, I have a reference to help you. Jay Roese in the Rochester, New York area solved my multitude of NSI Engine problems. I highly recommend him. He has agreed to talk to anyone who needs his expertise. He has an extensive background with Subaru engines and builds racing engines a well as rebuilds engines for car dealers. I now have a SMOOOOOTH running Subaru engine in my MOD IV Kitfox, thanks to Jay. This not meant in any way as an advertisement, only as a help for those NSI engine owners who are having problems. His E-Mail addrss is: phatbasstrd@rochester.rr.com His Cell #: 1-585-729-5098 Floyd Johnson kitfox69@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref "http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:26 AM PST US From: GENTRYLL@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. What are you going to have to do as far as cowl, motor mount, exhaust, etc. to go from the NSI to Ram. I am considering the sme thing ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:33:45 AM PST US From: "Rexster" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in Sorry Guys, The message below was intended only for one person and I mistakenly hi t "reply" to the entire list. I appologize. Rex in Michigan -- "Rexster" wrote: "downstate.............................................................. ...meeting Rex and Emily!" I predict we'll be pulling in to Frankenmuth between 11:00 and 11:30 Rex -- "fox5flyer" wrote: Bon Voyage Lynn. I didn't catch when you were leaving and returning, but on the way home if you need a place to stay for the night I'm about 30 air minutes south of Alpena MI. I'm downstate right now and won't be home until Monday. Let me know. Deke ---- Original Message ---- From: lynnmatt@jps.net Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in > >do not archive >Thanks, Dave...pictures coming right up...stills that is. >The trip hasn't even started yet and I already caught two typos in >the landing procedures that were emailed to me from EAA...not a big >deal, just saying on one hand that you're heading for downwind, and >on the other hand that you're heading for final...like I say, just a > >small matter. : ) Oh, yeah, another small matter was the reference >to the Red Barn as a landmark just north of the field....don't look >for it, I was told, as they demolished it two weeks ago....ho hum. > >They are expecting maybe 100 planes, and when I called today, with >about 2 hours left in their day, they gave me registration number 53, > >so there may not be as many as they think. With 53-100 planes packing > >the snow, I gotta think that it'll be bumpy and skatey. >I'm planning to leave there later in the day and heading back the >northern route, and staying someplace in Upper Michigan for the >night, then maybe heading to the Bush Planes Museum in Sault Ste. >Marie, Ontario....maybe. I'm taking my birth certificate in case I do > >that. I'd land stateside, and take ground transportation into Canada, > >eh? : ) > >Lynn >do not archive >On Jan 26, 2007, at 8:19 PM, dave wrote: > >> >> Lynn, --------------------- Good luck on your trip. >---------------- >> >> >> I love Ski fly ins. >> >> Also if you do not have a metal runner on bottom of ski you will >> not get much sticking. >> One thing I would suggest is to lift up each ski and put a stick >> under each ski to be sure. >> One thing i Usually do prior to getting in the plane is grab the >> strut and move the plane back and forth a bit to ensure you not >> stuck. Or grab the tail handle and move it side to side and watch > >> each ski to make sure they loose. >> >> Also if landing in deep snow make sure you land and don't stop >> until you go in a loop an d come back to the tracks you just made > >> if possbile. If not you might be looking at tramping down a path > >> to get back out. >> >> Another thing is make sure you not in slush, once you bog down in >> it you will have trouble getting moving again. Even though there is > >> 2 feet of ice but yet 12 inches of slush will be a mess to get out > >> of. And since you on wheel skis always be ready for a frozen >> wheel on landing. >> >> Take some sunglasses and different colours if you have them as it >> hard to see the surface on gray days. >> >> And don;'t forget to take some pics to remind us what a great time > >> it was. >> >> Fly safe ! >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" > >> To: >> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 6:07 PM >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in >> >> > >>> >>> I spoke with O'kosh today, and the wind was blowing the snow >>> around, but they are still a go for tomorrow, as am I. >>> Yeah, thank God for plastic...I'm a "newbie" on skis, and I'm >>> already spoiled. >>> >>> Lynn >>> do not archive >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:12 PM, kitfoxmike wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> from my snowmobile days, we did have problems with ski's >>>> sticking in the snow, then came the plastic ski's, wow now we >>>> were spoiled pups, slide and no stick in the snow, no build up >>>> of snow on the ski's either. hope this helps. >>>> >>>> -------- >>>> kitfoxmike >>>> Do not archive >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > WebMail Express+ - http://www.i-star.com I========== ======================== ==============sp; - The Kitfox-List Email F orum -<= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day B========= ======================== =============== - NEW MATRONICS WEB FOR UMS&n======================= ======================== ==== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ========================

Sorry Guys,

  The message below was intended only for one person and I mista kenly hit "reply" to the entire list. I appologize.

Rex in Michigan

-- "Rexster" <runwayrex@juno.com& gt; wrote:

"downstate........................................................... ......meeting Rex and Emily!"

I predict we'll be pulling in to Frankenmuth between 11:00 and 11:30< /P>

Rex


-- "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "fox5 flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>


Bon Voyage  ;Lynn.  I didn't catch when you were& nbsp;leaving and returning,
but on the way&n bsp;home if you need a place to stay& nbsp;for the night I'm
about 30 air min utes south of Alpena MI.  I'm downsta te right now and
won't be home until&nb sp;Monday.  Let me know.
Deke


----&nbs p;Original Message ----
From: lynnmatt@jps.net
To:& nbsp;kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:&nb sp;Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in
Date: Fri, 26  Jan 2007 22:35:03 -0500

>--> Kitf ox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson & lt;lynnmatt@jps.net>
>
>do not archive
>T hanks, Dave...pictures coming right up...stills  ;that is.
>The trip hasn't even started&n bsp;yet and I already caught two typos&nbs p;in  
>the landing procedures that  were emailed to me from EAA...not a b ig  
>deal, just saying on one  hand that you're heading for downwind, and   
>on the other hand that you' re heading for final...like I say,  j ust a
> 
>small matter. : ) &n bsp;Oh, yeah, another small matter was the  reference  
>to the Red Barn a s a landmark just north of the field. ...don't look  
>for it, I was  told, as they demolished it two weeks  ;ago....ho hum.
>
>They are expecting ma ybe 100 planes, and when I called tod ay, with  
>about 2 hours left  in their day, they gave me registration&nb sp;number 53,
> 
>so there may not& nbsp;be as many as they think. With 5 3-100 planes packing
> 
>the snow,  I gotta think that it'll be bumpy and  skatey.
>I'm planning to leave there&nbs p;later in the day and heading back t he  
>northern route, and staying so meplace in Upper Michigan for the  >night, then maybe heading to the Bus h Planes Museum in Sault Ste.  
&g t;Marie, Ontario....maybe. I'm taking my birth& nbsp;certificate in case I do
> 
>t hat. I'd land stateside, and take ground&n bsp;transportation into Canada,
> 
>eh?  : )
>
>Lynn
>do not archive
>On&n bsp;Jan 26, 2007, at 8:19 PM, dave wr ote:
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message  posted by: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
>>
>> Lynn, ---------------------   Good&nb sp;luck on your trip.
>----------------
>>
>>
>> I love Ski fly ins.
>>
>> Also if you do not h ave a  metal runner on bottom of  ;ski you will  
>> not get m uch sticking.
>> One thing I would&nbs p;suggest is to lift up each ski and& nbsp;put a stick  
>> under each& nbsp;ski to be sure.
>> One thing  ;i Usually do prior to getting in the  plane is grab the  
>> stru t and move  the plane back and f orth a bit to ensure you not  >> stuck.  Or grab  the tail& nbsp;handle and move it side to side  and watch
> 
>> each ski to  ;make sure they loose.
>>
>> Also& nbsp;if landing in deep snow make sure&nbs p;you land and don't stop  
>>&nb sp;until you go in a loop an d c ome back to  the tracks you just  ;made 
>
>> if possbile.    If not you might be looking at trampi ng down a path 
>
>> to get  back out.
>>
>> Another thing&nbs p;is make sure you not in slush, once  you bog down in  
>> it&nbs p;you will have trouble getting moving aga in. Even though there is
> 
>>&n bsp;2 feet of ice but yet 12 inches&n bsp;of slush  will be a mess to  get out
> 
>> of.  And sinc e you on wheel skis  always be r eady for a frozen  
>> wheel  ;on landing.
>>
>> Take some sungl asses and different colours if you have&nb sp;them as it  
>> hard to s ee the surface  on gray days.
>>< BR>>> And don;'t forget to take some  pics  to remind us what a great  time
> 
>> it was.
>>
&g t;> Fly safe !
>>
>> Dave
&g t;>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original  ;Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson"
><lynn matt@jps.net>
>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com >
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007  6:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:& nbsp;Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in
>>
>>< BR>>>> --> Kitfox-List message posted&nb sp;by: Lynn Matteson
><lynnmatt@jps.net>
>&g t;>
>>> I spoke with O'kosh toda y, and the wind was blowing the snow& nbsp; 
>>> around,  but they a re still a go for tomorrow, as am&nbs p;I.
>>> Yeah, thank God for plasti c...I'm a "newbie" on skis, and I'm & nbsp;
>>> already spoiled.
>>>
> >> Lynn
>>> do not archive
> >>
>>> On Jan 26, 2007, at&nb sp;1:12 PM, kitfoxmike wrote:
>>>
>> >> --> Kitfox-List message posted by:& nbsp;"kitfoxmike"   
>>>> <customt rans@qwest.net>
>>>>
>>>> from&nbs p;my snowmobile days, we did have problems  with ski's  
>>>> sticking  ; in the snow, then came the plastic& nbsp;ski's, wow now we  
>>>>&nb sp;were spoiled  pups, slide and no s tick in the snow, no build up  < BR>>>>> of snow on the  ski's& nbsp;either.  hope this helps.
>>>>>>>> --------
>>>> kitfoxmike
>>>> Do not archive
>>>>
&g t;>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
&g t;>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
&g t;>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

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________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:48 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in From: "kitfoxmike" You might be in trouble flying into Canada. I think you have to have a passport when flying. I think that includes our little ones. -------- kitfoxmike Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90803#90803 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:34:53 AM PST US From: Marco Menezes Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in Overnight accomodations also available here Lynn. No landing strip on site, but pick-up & delivery assured from Evart (9C8) 5 miles away. Bon Voyage Lynn. I didn't catch when you were leaving and returning, but on the way home if you need a place to stay for the night I'm about 30 air minutes south of Alpena MI. I'm downstate right now and won't be home until Monday. Let me know. Deke ---- Original Message ---- From: lynnmatt@jps.net Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in > >do not archive >Thanks, Dave...pictures coming right up...stills that is. >The trip hasn't even started yet and I already caught two typos in >the landing procedures that were emailed to me from EAA...not a big >deal, just saying on one hand that you're heading for downwind, and >on the other hand that you're heading for final...like I say, just a > >small matter. : ) Oh, yeah, another small matter was the reference >to the Red Barn as a landmark just north of the field....don't look >for it, I was told, as they demolished it two weeks ago....ho hum. > >They are expecting maybe 100 planes, and when I called today, with >about 2 hours left in their day, they gave me registration number 53, > >so there may not be as many as they think. With 53-100 planes packing > >the snow, I gotta think that it'll be bumpy and skatey. >I'm planning to leave there later in the day and heading back the >northern route, and staying someplace in Upper Michigan for the >night, then maybe heading to the Bush Planes Museum in Sault Ste. >Marie, Ontario....maybe. I'm taking my birth certificate in case I do > >that. I'd land stateside, and take ground transportation into Canada, > >eh? : ) > >Lynn >do not archive >On Jan 26, 2007, at 8:19 PM, dave wrote: > >> >> Lynn, --------------------- Good luck on your trip. >---------------- >> >> >> I love Ski fly ins. >> >> Also if you do not have a metal runner on bottom of ski you will >> not get much sticking. >> One thing I would suggest is to lift up each ski and put a stick >> under each ski to be sure. >> One thing i Usually do prior to getting in the plane is grab the >> strut and move the plane back and forth a bit to ensure you not >> stuck. Or grab the tail handle and move it side to side and watch > >> each ski to make sure they loose. >> >> Also if landing in deep snow make sure you land and don't stop >> until you go in a loop an d come back to the tracks you just made > >> if possbile. If not you might be looking at tramping down a path > >> to get back out. >> >> Another thing is make sure you not in slush, once you bog down in >> it you will have trouble getting moving again. Even though there is > >> 2 feet of ice but yet 12 inches of slush will be a mess to get out > >> of. And since you on wheel skis always be ready for a frozen >> wheel on landing. >> >> Take some sunglasses and different colours if you have them as it >> hard to see the surface on gray days. >> >> And don;'t forget to take some pics to remind us what a great time > >> it was. >> >> Fly safe ! >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" > >> To: >> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 6:07 PM >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in >> >> > >>> >>> I spoke with O'kosh today, and the wind was blowing the snow >>> around, but they are still a go for tomorrow, as am I. >>> Yeah, thank God for plastic...I'm a "newbie" on skis, and I'm >>> already spoiled. >>> >>> Lynn >>> do not archive >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2007, at 1:12 PM, kitfoxmike wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> from my snowmobile days, we did have problems with ski's >>>> sticking in the snow, then came the plastic ski's, wow now we >>>> were spoiled pups, slide and no stick in the snow, no build up >>>> of snow on the ski's either. hope this helps. >>>> >>>> -------- >>>> kitfoxmike >>>> Do not archive >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > WebMail Express+ - http://www.i-star.com Internet Access from $7.95 Marco Menezes Model 2 582 N99KX --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:41:46 AM PST US From: Marco Menezes Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel Flow, continued. At the risk of adding fuel to the embers of this string (sorry), how about Andair check valves instead of shut-offs at each wing tank? Wouldn't that solve the problem of cross-fed, total fuel depletion from one missing or loose cap, where single tank isolation is not wanted or needed? Torgeir Mortensen wrote: Hi Dave, I'll think your system is Ok., easy to handle and secure.. If you loose one cap, you sure only loose fuel from that tank -in worst case 3/4 may go due to backflow and "resonant escape". (When backflow Marco Menezes Model 2 582 N99KX --------------------------------- Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:00 AM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in On Jan 27, 2007, at 2:57 PM, fox5flyer wrote: > Bon Voyage Lynn. Yep, bon voyage, Lynn! I went flying today. A bit of snow here but it will rain tomorrow. I can't be bothered to put my skis on ...yet. Winter Norway is no longer what it used to be! :-) Michel do not archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:36:08 AM PST US From: "Ted Palamarek" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in You are right you might have trouble --- but the trouble will be in getting back into the USA, as American Customs requires that you have a passport to enter regardless whether you are an alien or US citizen. Ted DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kitfoxmike Sent: January 27, 2007 8:26 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in You might be in trouble flying into Canada. I think you have to have a passport when flying. I think that includes our little ones. -------- kitfoxmike Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90803#90803 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:39:14 AM PST US From: "Floyd Johnson" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. I didn't change engines, just rebuilt the NSI. I'm using the same cowling, and modified the airscoop to direct all the air thru the radiator. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: 1/27/2007 9:36:02 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. What are you going to have to do as far as cowl, motor mount, exhaust, etc. to go from the NSI to Ram. I am considering the sme thing ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:47:39 AM PST US From: "Floyd Johnson" Subject: Kitfox-List: Ignition pickup Hi Mike, No, it's Electromotive.com. The pickup I refered to is actually wedge shapped on the trigger wheel end, as opposed to the original pickup which had a flat end. It fits into the same NSI collar. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Logan Sent: 1/27/2007 9:14:24 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. Should that be directignition.com? They are located about 50 miles north of here in Manassas, VA. I have talked to them a number of times and they are very helpful. I am not sure what you mean by the wedge shaped pickup. Is it a crank mount? If it is, what did you use for mounting the parts? I still have the NSI system in my hangar but I am using the Real World Solutions ignition and injector system with the NSI ignition pickups. The NSI system has the toothed wheel attached to the flywheel end of the crank and the sensors are attached to the inside of the "bell housing." Mike From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Floyd Johnson Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:44 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. I'm currently using the new Electromotive WEDGE SHAPED pickup. It is much more precise. I can get the part number for you, or you can go to ELECTROMOTIVE.COM and find it. They have a complete manual for the ignition modules which you can download. It has all the information you would need for troubleshooting etc. Be sure to download the one for your particular module. Floyd ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Logan Sent: 1/26/2007 7:13:43 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. Floyd, What are you using for the pickups on the ignition now that you have gone to one module? Mike From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Floyd Johnson Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. For you pilots flying behind NSI EA 81 engines who are having problems, I have a reference to help you. Jay Roese in the Rochester, New York area solved my multitude of NSI Engine problems. I highly recommend him. He has agreed to talk to anyone who needs his expertise. He has an extensive background with Subaru engines and builds racing engines a well as rebuilds engines for car dealers. I now have a SMOOOOOTH running Subaru engine in my MOD IV Kitfox, thanks to Jay. This not meant in any way as an advertisement, only as a help for those NSI engine owners who are having problems. His E-Mail addrss is: phatbasstrd@rochester.rr.com His Cell #: 1-585-729-5098 Floyd Johnson kitfox69@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:59:12 AM PST US From: "Floyd Johnson" Subject: Kitfox-List: RE:NSI extra engine parts. Hi Again Mike, When I mentioned the initial overheating problems, besides the undersized radiator, the engine core was full of junk which clogged the radiator. When I flushed the block, I got over a cup of what looked like core sand out of it. That was AFTER the radiator was plugged. I would suggest to anyone having overheating problems with their NSI engines that they flush out the block and radiator in both directions several times. Do it into a bucket so you can observe the results and do them seperately, ie remove the radiator from the system and flush it seperately. Jay can provide a larger radiator and I can provide dimensions for brackets which make it a no brainer to install. BTY, NSI had the hoses hooked up backwards, so it will be necessary to replace one with a longer hose to make it reach properly. If anyone needs details, I can check mine and provide pictures. Regards, Floyd N69FJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Logan Sent: 1/27/2007 9:18:34 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. By the way, I hated my NSI system. It never ran smooth, did not develop power like it should and always ran very hot. When I tore the engine down, I found some "extra" parts that Lance and his crew left that blocked off some of the oil flow. I know they were extra because I was very careful in counting up all the little parts that I took out. I had RAM engines build up an engine for me and am working on the installation now. It is a very smooth and powerful running engine, much more power than NSI. Mike From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Floyd Johnson Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:44 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. I'm currently using the new Electromotive WEDGE SHAPED pickup. It is much more precise. I can get the part number for you, or you can go to ELECTROMOTIVE.COM and find it. They have a complete manual for the ignition modules which you can download. It has all the information you would need for troubleshooting etc. Be sure to download the one for your particular module. Floyd ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Logan Sent: 1/26/2007 7:13:43 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. Floyd, What are you using for the pickups on the ignition now that you have gone to one module? Mike From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Floyd Johnson Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI Engine help. For you pilots flying behind NSI EA 81 engines who are having problems, I have a reference to help you. Jay Roese in the Rochester, New York area solved my multitude of NSI Engine problems. I highly recommend him. He has agreed to talk to anyone who needs his expertise. He has an extensive background with Subaru engines and builds racing engines a well as rebuilds engines for car dealers. I now have a SMOOOOOTH running Subaru engine in my MOD IV Kitfox, thanks to Jay. This not meant in any way as an advertisement, only as a help for those NSI engine owners who are having problems. His E-Mail addrss is: phatbasstrd@rochester.rr.com His Cell #: 1-585-729-5098 Floyd Johnson kitfox69@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:21:58 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow, continued.Fuel Flow, continued. From: "Torgeir Mortensen" Hi Bradly, Just wanted to say this is a real good idea to implement into the old system, here you're forced to use one side by the time I.E. it is not possible to use both wing tank feeding the header, also there's only one valve to manage both fuel tanks - really good. Can you see the potential danger of using both wing valves in open position in the old system?? You'll know, the good habit from the GA is to manage the fuel enroute, swap tank every 30 minute -this is an important part of good airmanship. Well folks, this old system is something I'll like to look into a little later. Torgeir. On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:54:55 +0100, Bradley M Webb wrote: > > It's not that much different from many of yours, but much different than > the > Model 2 instructions show. > > First of all, I have 6gal in the left, 12 gal in the right, and the small > aluminum header right behind the firewall. > > I have no tank interconnect that vents both tanks together. The only > vents > are the individual caps. I did this mainly to stop siphoning between the > tanks while parked. > > I also have each tank flow to a left-off-right valve near the header > tank. > The M2 manual shows the shut-offs behind the pilot (SB'd out), and both > tanks went to the sides of the header tank. Mine has a single line from > the > L-O-R valve to the flow sender then to the header. From there, to a > firewall > shut-off valve, to the FI pump, then to the motor. From the FI/TBI, > excess > fuel returns to the other side of the header. > > My header is a closed system, in that it is not vented at all under > normal > conditions. I did not run the vent up to the wing tank. I have a purge > valve > to the top to burp it, even in flight. I installed an ACS fuel level > switch > with an LED in the panel. If that light comes on, my header level is > falling, and I open the purge valve to burp it. Both vertical distance > and > cap vent tube force the bubble out and re-fill the tank. > > While sitting tail down with half tanks, I get 4-5gph flow to the > header. In > flight attitude, it's over 10gph. Since I only use 2 gph on my motor, it > meets the FAA 150% flow rule by a large margin. > > Bradley > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael > Gibbs > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:37 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel Flow, continued.Fuel Flow, continued. > > > Bradley sez: > >> I set my system up as two totally seperate, redundant systems. I >> have no interconnect between tanks. I installed a left-off-right >> valve...My header is my lifeline. > > I'm confused by your description, Bradley. How is this different > than the factory set up? Each wing tank normally feeds the header, > many builders include an inline valve between each wing tank and the > header, and the header is vented to the right wing tank. > > Can you describe your installation in more detail? > > Mike G. > N728KF > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:25:20 PM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in Only if you are flying.... So far. Noel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Ted Palamarek > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:05 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in > > > > > You are right you might have trouble --- but the trouble will > be in getting > back into the USA, as American Customs requires that you have > a passport to > enter regardless whether you are an alien or US citizen. > > > Ted > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > kitfoxmike > Sent: January 27, 2007 8:26 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in > > > > You might be in trouble flying into Canada. I think you have > to have a > passport when flying. I think that includes our little ones. > > -------- > kitfoxmike > Do not archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90803#90803 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:35:13 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel Flow, continued. From: "Torgeir Mortensen" Well folks, this is hopefully an explanation of the problems to be aware of in our kind of fuel system. The header tank is filled by gravity, only - this is an important thing to remember! Let's assume that we are filling our right main tank with 5 gal. Both tanks is equipped with a valve that is closed. The main that goes from the header to the gasculator is also closed. Well, -some notes is needed here, the fuel system here is the same as the one we started with, the one valid today. I've installed two valves one for each wing tank, this is to make it more easy to understand as I'm sure you agree that if both valves is open all the time the functionality is equal to the one recommended today. Now we have the right tank filled with 5 gal, both mains is shut, now we install a pressure device on both head tubes and pressurize both tanks with pressure equal to 100 Mi. Yes, we are on ground, but we are trying to simulate flight, both wing tanks AND the header tank is pressurized (via the vent line). Now we open the right main valve. Now, will the fuel rush down the line? No, the fuel will flow gently down the line by the gravity only. This is true as the header also is pressurized with same pressure as the two mains. This is the same as we are on ground with no head pressure, agree? The head pressure only make effect against the carburetor float camber as this camber is at the "true" static pressure. Then I've to let the cat out of the basket. The thing is, if you have a leakage that's causing filling of the right wing tank (and maybe some drop of fuel from here), you "should" be able to use all the fuel left in the right wing tank, this due to gravity. However, if you have a leaky left hand tank gasket, transferring all of the fuel to the left side wing tank, -after unporting air will continuously flow toward the left tank and avoiding much fuel flow from here. Therefore the header soon exhaust and your engine WILL stop, and your landing will be with the left wing tank full of fuel! Go figure. After all this discussion I'll hope that you're able to figure this. The correct solution here is to vent the header to BOTH wing tanks! This is something I've said MANY times here on the kitfox list, -but after Howards incident -lately, I could not stop writing this. Torgeir. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:35:42 PM PST US From: kurt schrader Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RE:NSI extra engine parts. This problem isn't restricted to NSI either. My flying buddy built a 2/3rds scale Jenny and installed a MotoGuzzy engine in it. Before he ran it, he opened the pan and dumped about a cup full of shavings out of it. Seems they never cleaned that up after the engine was milled/built. My NSI was clean and ran smooth, but my main problems have been keeping that oil pressure above 30 psi at flight idle, which is my personal limit, and that darn blow by oil seperator that wasn't right to begin with. Also I sure don't get the power I expected from it for the fuel flow. I expect to field strip it this year and do some upgrades. It will be worth it to know if all was well when take it apart completely. Kurt S. S-5/NSI turbo --- Floyd Johnson wrote: > Hi Again Mike, > > When I mentioned the initial overheating problems, > besides the undersized radiator, the engine core was > full of junk which clogged the radiator...... Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:07 PM PST US From: kurt schrader Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel Flow, continued. I have been looking at the check valves myself. I think they need .5 psi to open, so they should be mounted at the header to ensure enough tank pressure for flow. Another consideration is a shutoff only on the left tank. That prevents cross flow, no chance of having both tanks closed, and the shutoff could be mounted where you see it when closed, but not open, just to remind you. With the right tank full, it can still feed thru the vent line, if the main line is shut off. After a bit this no longer applies, but the left tank is completely controllable thru the only line. Right now I use a hose clamp on one line or the other only, and in cruise only. I am listening to all of you for better ideas. Kurt S. S-5 --- Marco Menezes wrote: > At the risk of adding fuel to the embers of this > string (sorry), how about Andair check valves > instead of shut-offs at each wing tank? Wouldn't > that solve the problem of cross-fed, total fuel > depletion from one missing or loose cap, where > single tank isolation is not wanted or needed? Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:25:44 PM PST US From: jerry evans Subject: Kitfox-List: which paint Can anyone tell me what is the best paint to use over stits I'm doing over dacron for my m2 , should I use polytone or aerothane or classic aero ? Jerry Evans kitfox 555 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 10:26:02 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: which paint From: "Joel" Hi Jerry, I used polytone because of it is easier to repair. 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