Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Fri 02/02/07


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:23 AM - Re: Speedster Electric Trim Wire Routing (Noel Loveys)
     2. 12:59 AM - Test (Torgeir Mortensen)
     3. 06:46 AM - Re: Fuel flow, summary so far. (Torgeir Mortensen)
     4. 09:02 AM - Re: Fuel flow, summary so far. (Don Pearsall)
     5. 10:26 AM - Re: Fuel flow, summary so far. (Torgeir Mortensen)
     6. 10:34 AM - Re: Fuel flow, summary so far. (Torgeir Mortensen)
     7. 10:49 AM - Re: Speedster Electric Trim Wire Routing (Michel Verheughe)
     8. 12:37 PM - Re: Fuel System Questions=gasolator (kurt schrader)
     9. 06:55 PM - Aircraft cover (Clint Bazzill)
    10. 07:35 PM - High Voltage Indication (Jimmie Blackwell)
    11. 08:42 PM - Re: High Voltage Indication (A Smith)
    12. 09:39 PM - Oshkosh Skiplane trip...coming home...OFF TOPIC (Lynn Matteson)
    13. 10:17 PM - Re: Speedster Electric Trim Wire Routing (Guy Buchanan)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:23:31 AM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Speedster Electric Trim Wire Routing
    I would dope a doubler on the bottom of the elevator first. Try to make the hole flow with the paint job... E.g. speed stripes etc. The second thing is instead of cutting with a razor I would consider using a 15-20 watt soldering iron. And slowly burning the hole. The iron helps heal around the hole. After the wires are installed it should be easy to dope a patch on and shrink the patch and finish to match the rest of the elevator. You could also just cut a small straight slit on the bottom of the elevator pull the wires through with an electricians pulling wire and then patch the slit with tape. To hide the job put a dummy tape on the other elevator to balance the appearance. You may have to bribe a neighbourhood kid to crawl carefully down in the fuselage to attach the wires in a reasonable fashion to the frame. Maybe the age of Dickens isn't over yet ;-) Noel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fox5flyer > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 1:53 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Speedster Electric Trim Wire Routing > > > > Recovering a small portion of the underside of the elevator > is not really a > big deal. If it's painted with Polytone the patch can easily be made > invisible. I doubt there is any other effective way to do it > other than > some sort of surface mount. > > Deke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nick Scholtes" <Nick@Scholtes1.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 11:36 AM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Speedster Electric Trim Wire Routing > > > <Nick@Scholtes1.com> > > > > Hey Listers! > > > > I bought a Model IV Speedster recently. It was designed to have > > electric trim, so darn-it, I want it to have electric trim! > The seller > > (also the builder) told me: > > > > "The servo is installed and the wire goes from here (up > under the panel) > > back to the servo. I just never connected the switches and the > > indicator." Ok, I can connect the wires under the panel, > no problem. > > > > Well, last night I opened up the "hatch" in the elevator to > take a look > > at the servo. Sure enough, it's in there. Then I noticed the wires > > that come out of the servo are bundled into a neat package > and stuffed > > to the side. They're not connected to anything. The wire > that is under > > the panel heads aft and dissapears somewhere in the back of the > > fuselage, never to be seen or heard from again! It never comes out. > > > > So, my question: > > > > -- How do I route the wire out of the back of the fuselage > and into the > > elevator to connect to the servo, especially now that the > elevator has > > been covered and the wire wasn't installed prior to covering? > > Recovering the elevator would be SO unappealing! > > > > -- How is the wire normally routed? > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:59:30 AM PST US
    From: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
    Subject: Test
    Something wrong here? <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 06:46:50 AM PST US
    From: Torgeir Mortensen <torgemor@online.no>
    Subject: Re: Fuel flow, summary so far.
    PS. Yesterday I sent 3 postings, all of the returned, so really don't know what happend. Hi Lowell, this is a good and correct observation. However, you'll know I've never mentioned the height. :) Sure, I've been informed that the new tank is located behind the seat all the way down to the floor. And you're right, the feeder tank I'm describing is the pre. 94 model tank, "high" located behind the seat. Let's do some calculations: Now; 10.58 millibar (or 0.1534499 PSI) is equal to 92 mph or ~80 Kts. Another important thing is the influence the low pressure might have here, my finding is based on a standard profile at 5 deg AOA gave approx. 14.4 PSI with 92 Mph. (This is a little conservative calculation, -but hopefully close to the reality, at high angle the pressure can go down to ~14.2 PSI.) Well, all of my assumptions is worst case, so anything less is better.. I.E. Delta P=((14.7-14.4)+0.153)PSI=0.453 PSI. This is the pressure that will try to force the fuel downward the line until there is pressure balance. The height between top of fuel surface inside left tank and the level of the "downpressed" fuel. Let's see what height this will be; 14.7 PSI represent 393.7" column of water (equal to 10 meter). The following formula is valid for this calculation; 14.7 PSI/393.7"=0.453PSI/X Then X=0.453PSI*393.7"/14.7PSI=12.123" column of water. Now, since fuel (Mogas) is lighter than water we must recalculate as this: Column of fuel = Column of water/spec. weight for fuel=12.123"/0.71=17.088" (0.43 meter) The height difference between the main tank output flange and the carburetor inlet flange is 0.6 meter or 23.62". The old header in my example is in between here, I.E. less than 0.6 meter. Next thing is that the size of the feeder lines of this old setup "originally" is 1/4" of diameter. With the fuel demand from the engine, and this reduced flow the header will decrease in level until the line unport and air start flowing. Here's another one; the total length of all feeding fuel lines in my plane is 5.13 meter equal to 16.6 feet! And this one, let's say that the left only have say 5 Gallon and the pilot make some left turns -airwork, observations who knows. I've always search for the worst case just to clarify or.. justify.. Torgeir On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 03:19:16 +0100, Lowell Fitt <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Torgeir, > > I think I see a problem with your figure (fuel_4). My water manometer > shows a column of water 4.5" tall will create the pressure at the pitot > tube to register 100 mph. which is a bit more than the avarage Kitfox > will fly (sorry to the 5 through 8 guys, but average is average and you > guys will come in later). A rough estimate gives a column of fuel at > say 6 inches at that speed. Conversely an airplane flying at 100 mph > will has the ability to lift a column of fuel about 6 inches. What that > indicates to me - if the header tank is full and the left tank is full > as you show, there will be fuel to some level in both the fuel line and > the vent line on the right side due to head pressure from the full > tank. The level will be somethiing like 6: below the tank fuel level. > As I measure it I have about 10 inches from the level of the fuel tank > outlet to the header tank inlet. There is insufficient pressure > generated from the "pitot tube" type air vent on the non leaking tank to > force a breach into the header tank as long is there is at least some > fuel in the (leaking gasket) tank and the airspeed is no higher than, > say 115 mph. Air at .04 psi won't lift a column of fuel 10 inches. > > Further all aircraft sold after about 1994 - the aircraft capable of > higher speeds have the header tanks low behind the seats with a pressure > head of more like 18 to 20 inches. With these airplanes the .04 psi > from the intact fuel cap won't force air in the fuel line or vent line > more than about 11inches below the fuel level in the system even at > VNE. I doubt there is any way to introduce air into the full tank to > header tank feed line in our airplanes in the scenario you illustrate. > > Also the diagram of the header tank reflects the round header tank of > several models ago consistent with the diagram of (Fuel_5) The newer > header tank has the inlets from both tanks on the top surface as well as > the vent line. Provision is made for a quick drain on the bottom and > fuel outlet about an inch or two above that on the forward facing side. > > Lowell > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Torgeir Mortensen" > <torgemor@online.no> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:52 PM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel flow, summary so far. <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 09:02:59 AM PST US
    From: "Don Pearsall" <donpearsall@comcast.net>
    Subject: Fuel flow, summary so far.
    Torgeir, The list did not get any messages from you yesterday, but there were plenty of other messages posted. So the problem must be on your end. Your posts are appearing now, so perhaps it is fixed. Don Pearsall -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Torgeir Mortensen Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 6:45 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel flow, summary so far. PS. Yesterday I sent 3 postings, all of the returned, so really don't know what happend. Hi Lowell, this is a good and correct observation. However, you'll know I've never mentioned the height. :) Sure, I've been informed that the new tank is located behind the seat all the way down to the floor. And you're right, the feeder tank I'm describing is the pre. 94 model tank, "high" located behind the seat. Let's do some calculations: Now; 10.58 millibar (or 0.1534499 PSI) is equal to 92 mph or ~80 Kts. Another important thing is the influence the low pressure might have here, my finding is based on a standard profile at 5 deg AOA gave approx. 14.4 PSI with 92 Mph. (This is a little conservative calculation, -but hopefully close to the reality, at high angle the pressure can go down to ~14.2 PSI.) Well, all of my assumptions is worst case, so anything less is better.. I.E. Delta P=((14.7-14.4)+0.153)PSI=0.453 PSI. This is the pressure that will try to force the fuel downward the line until there is pressure balance. The height between top of fuel surface inside left tank and the level of the "downpressed" fuel. Let's see what height this will be; 14.7 PSI represent 393.7" column of water (equal to 10 meter). The following formula is valid for this calculation; 14.7 PSI/393.7"=0.453PSI/X Then X=0.453PSI*393.7"/14.7PSI=12.123" column of water. Now, since fuel (Mogas) is lighter than water we must recalculate as this: Column of fuel = Column of water/spec. weight for fuel=12.123"/0.71=17.088" (0.43 meter) The height difference between the main tank output flange and the carburetor inlet flange is 0.6 meter or 23.62". The old header in my example is in between here, I.E. less than 0.6 meter. Next thing is that the size of the feeder lines of this old setup "originally" is 1/4" of diameter. With the fuel demand from the engine, and this reduced flow the header will decrease in level until the line unport and air start flowing. Here's another one; the total length of all feeding fuel lines in my plane is 5.13 meter equal to 16.6 feet! And this one, let's say that the left only have say 5 Gallon and the pilot make some left turns -airwork, observations who knows. I've always search for the worst case just to clarify or.. justify.. Torgeir On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 03:19:16 +0100, Lowell Fitt <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > Torgeir, > > I think I see a problem with your figure (fuel_4). My water manometer > shows a column of water 4.5" tall will create the pressure at the pitot > tube to register 100 mph. which is a bit more than the avarage Kitfox > will fly (sorry to the 5 through 8 guys, but average is average and you > guys will come in later). A rough estimate gives a column of fuel at > say 6 inches at that speed. Conversely an airplane flying at 100 mph > will has the ability to lift a column of fuel about 6 inches. What that > indicates to me - if the header tank is full and the left tank is full > as you show, there will be fuel to some level in both the fuel line and > the vent line on the right side due to head pressure from the full > tank. The level will be somethiing like 6: below the tank fuel level. > As I measure it I have about 10 inches from the level of the fuel tank > outlet to the header tank inlet. There is insufficient pressure > generated from the "pitot tube" type air vent on the non leaking tank to > force a breach into the header tank as long is there is at least some > fuel in the (leaking gasket) tank and the airspeed is no higher than, > say 115 mph. Air at .04 psi won't lift a column of fuel 10 inches. > > Further all aircraft sold after about 1994 - the aircraft capable of > higher speeds have the header tanks low behind the seats with a pressure > head of more like 18 to 20 inches. With these airplanes the .04 psi > from the intact fuel cap won't force air in the fuel line or vent line > more than about 11inches below the fuel level in the system even at > VNE. I doubt there is any way to introduce air into the full tank to > header tank feed line in our airplanes in the scenario you illustrate. > > Also the diagram of the header tank reflects the round header tank of > several models ago consistent with the diagram of (Fuel_5) The newer > header tank has the inlets from both tanks on the top surface as well as > the vent line. Provision is made for a quick drain on the bottom and > fuel outlet about an inch or two above that on the forward facing side. > > Lowell > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Torgeir Mortensen" > <torgemor@online.no> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:52 PM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel flow, summary so far. <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?Kitfox-List</a> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com</a> </b></font></pre>


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    Time: 10:26:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel flow, summary so far.
    From: "Torgeir Mortensen" <torgemor@online.no>
    Hi Jim, Got this message as a reply of all my posting to the list yesterday, see below. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The original message was received at Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:09:40 -0800 from barracuda.matronics.com [64.81.74.21] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/lists/cto DoMIME | /lists/at Kitfox-List kitfox-list | /lists/hf kitfox-list Kitfox-List DoMIME" (reason: 554 5.4.6 Too many hops) (expanded from: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 5.4.6 Too many hops 39 (25 max): from <torgemor@online.no> via barracuda.matronics.com, to <kitfox-list@matronics.com> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for the flowers Jim. My planned trip up North was cancelled, so now some more writing. :) Torgeir. On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 02:51:44 +0100, James Shumaker <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Excellent Torgier Another keeper for my archives and another change to be made on my plane. Jim Shumaker -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/


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    Time: 10:34:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel flow, summary so far.
    From: "Torgeir Mortensen" <torgemor@online.no>
    Hi Noel, Hmm, maybe there was a thunderstorm in cyberspace yesterday ... ? See below. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The original message was received at Thu, 1 Feb 2007 22:02:21 -0800 from barracuda.matronics.com [64.81.74.21] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- "|/lists/cto DoMIME | /lists/at Kitfox-List kitfox-list | /lists/hf kitfox-list Kitfox-List DoMIME" (reason: 554 5.4.6 Too many hops) (expanded from: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 5.4.6 Too many hops 47 (25 max): from <torgemor@online.no> via barracuda.matronics.com, to <kitfox-list@matronics.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Noel, I'll put the answer in beetween below. > On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 03:53:24 +0100, Noel Loveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca> > wrote: > Torgeir: > On the second diagram you showed the left tank dribbling fuel into the > header tank. I expect that you won't get a pressurized head of air over > the fuel in the tank but neither will you get a vacuum to hold the fuel > up > in the tank. Let alone suck air from the empty tank. Even though the cap > isn't properly fitted the pitot effect should be enough to brake the low > pressure ( hardly a vacuum) on the top of the wing. See the mail just posted to Lowell. > Why bother connecting a vent from the header to the cross vent in the > last > diagram? Once you have the cross vent tube installed the air pressure on > top of the fuel should be consistent across both wing tanks regardless of > whether or not one cap is not properly installed.. The header will self > purge because you don't fill both tanks at exactly the same speed to trap > air in the header.... That is assuming of course you ran or drained the > header dry. One other thing... On my plane the inlets to the header tank > are "almost" at the very top of the header tank.... The vent comes off > the > same level as the inlets. As my tank has a colletion camber for air and vented at the top, it's a must to be able to vent. In your newer system,perhaps with 3/8" lines, the system will self vent. > Nice diagrams. I do like the idea of the cross vent. Then again I like > the > idea of controlling the fuel flow too. > Noel Thanks Torgeir. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/


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    Time: 10:49:35 AM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: Speedster Electric Trim Wire Routing
    On Feb 1, 2007, at 8:00 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote: > I recently routed a manual trim cable without re-covering so this > should be easy. Guy, like most of us, I keep some email from this list for later reference, in a special folder. While I am not specially interested in the electric trim of a Speedster (I have a model 3 without trim), I would like to take the occasion to salute you, and the nice way you document your work and explain it to the benefit of everyone. Together with e.g. Lowell, Torgeir (and many others, I can't write them all) you make this place worth the reading and archiving of good stuff that makes our flying a safer and enjoyable experience. Thank you, Sir! Keep up the good job (and everyone else) Michel do not archive


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    Time: 12:37:59 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel System Questions=gasolator
    The gascolator will pass whatever is on top. As long as there isn't enough water to fill it, you should get fuel. But more water than that and it will pass water. Of course there is some stiring going on, so something less than a full gascolator cup will start passing some water. Since my gascolator drain blew out in flight 2 years ago on my S-5, I think it is more a danger than a help to me. The good news is that my engine kept running at cruise power, but higher EGT, so the fuel to the engine was maintained, even with a quarter inch hole in the gascolator and a fuel flow of way over 10 gph, half at least blowing overboard. I intend to take all the components of the fuel system not necessary and put them on the cabin side of the firewall. Opposite of my origional feelings on this one. Bigger fire potential on the front side. I will take out the gascolator and use the header tank. The header tank will probably have a front feed, rear drain for emptying the plane quickly, and a bottom quick drain for fuel samples only. I keep destroying my quick drain O rings using them to drain. I need one final filter up front somewhere, but haven't decided where yet. The intent is to have all flow going up to the engine after the header so there are no air or water traps enroute. The header will trap water and sediment and any air should flow up to the main tanks or be bled out of the engine, once fuel is added. Having the gascolater where mine was made more top and bottom points on my fuel system than I liked, and added a source of fuel leakage 4 inches from my exhaust. Also it made another place for vapor lock to occur. Cleaning this all up will make me feel safer, at least. Kurt S. S-5 --- Cudnohufsky's <7suds@Chartermi.net> wrote: > All, > Thanks for all the replys. Another question, I was > under the impression that > a gascolator's filtering screen was such that it > would allow fuel to pass > but not water. I found this artical that seems to > elude to that thought. > Thoughts? > Lloyd > http://www.andair.co.uk/system/index.html Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.


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    Time: 06:55:29 PM PST US
    From: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Aircraft cover
    Any on have one of the Model IV aircraft covers they are not using, contact me off line. Clint _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count.


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    Time: 07:35:05 PM PST US
    From: "Jimmie Blackwell" <JimmieBlackwell@austin.rr.com>
    Subject: High Voltage Indication
    With engine running I normally see about 14 volts indicated on the panel meter and pulsating slightly if the strobes are on. While flying today I noted that the voltage pegged high for awhile and then settled back down to normal. A few minutes later the volt meter again pegged high, (above 16 volts). At that point I turned off the alternator circuit and the meter immediately dropped down and showed a steady 13-14 volts. Turning the alternator on again the volt meter pegged high again, but after awhile settled down to normal. Would appreciate any ideas on what may be causing this indication. Jimmie Model IV Speedster, 912 UL


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    Time: 08:42:28 PM PST US
    From: "A Smith" <kitfox@ida.net>
    Subject: Re: High Voltage Indication
    Internal regulator on the alternator??? They can weld shut on some units when they are overloaded. ALbert


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    Time: 09:39:19 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Oshkosh Skiplane trip...coming home...OFF TOPIC
    Part II of my recent trip to Oshkosh for the Annual Skiplane Fly-in: I got up Sunday morning to the view of a little more snow on the ground at Oshkosh, and enough mist or blowing snow to keep the tower obscured for a couple hours. I opened the hangar, fueled up, got a new Airport Directory and a Green Bay sectional, clearance to taxi, and took off on 31 to the north. The directory says that 31 is full of cracks and vegetation, but the Kitfox must have picked a good section (snow covered) and the wind helped get it up quick. I flew northward, missing all the towered airports, and set my sights for the edge of Lake Michigan all the way around to the Bridge. About the time I had got as far as Menominee (MNM), Michigan and was flying at 5,500' altitude, I had finally seen the "elusive" zero F. reading on my OAT (outside air temperature) gauge. I say elusive, because in previous attempts to climb up high enough to witness 0 or lower, I'd always run into a temperature inversion, and the higher I climbed, the warmer it got. This was several days, to weeks, before this trip to Oshkosh. I wasn't going to be disappointed on this flight. The clouds were becoming thicker, and I was climbing to get over them and have clear skies in which to fly. I still had the required (for my Sport Pilot license) view of the earth below me, but down there was snow and who knows what, so I stayed up high, and enjoyed the sun. As I flew further north, the OAT finally hit the minus sign, and another goal was mine. I don't know why this was a particular goal of mine, I just wanted to see it. Like when you are home and the weather says it's going to zero, I like to watch my digital temp gauge and see it happen...exciting life I lead, eh? Anyway, I got the below-zero reading, even got a shot with my camera at -4. I eventually hit -6, but by then it was more a pain in the ass and cold in the feet, than anything I wanted to see more of. I was getting chilly all over by then, and started to think of getting down and getting warm in a nice airport somewhere. The next stopping place was Delta Co (ESC) at Escanaba, Michigan. I made a radio call and flew the pattern and landed there. I went into the pilot's lounge and warmed up a bit and some guy came in and was checking out the weather for me, and we got to talking about Kitfox's and he said there was one on the grounds. He drove me to where it was, we met the owner, and shot the breeze, then it was time to head out. Driving back to my plane, we saw a turboprop plane being towed out of a hangar, and passengers lining up to board. I got back in my plane and departed. During the climbout, I noticed low clouds and what looked like snow in the direction that I wanted to go, which was right over a bay with freighters seemingly frozen in port...I took a picture, and diverted north, aiming for large openings in the clouds. To do this, I had to head slightly west, and climb, and finally I was over the clouds, and I could head back to my east heading. I knew that I was now in line with the runway that I had just left, and possibly in the path of that passenger jet that was boarding at Escanaba. I made a report of my position, just in case he was coming. I kept glancing over my shoulder, and thinking of the opening sequence of the 1980 movie "Airplane!". That opening shot shows a view above the clouds, plays the music from the movie "Jaws", and you see a fin zig-zagging just above the clouds, when finally the fin and attached airplane emerges from the clouds. This is what I was thinking was going to happen any second now..that this jet was going to emerge with me in its jaws, and I wasn't going to make much of a meal for him...enough to annoy his day and ruin mine. That moment passed, and I was flying over pretty sparsely populated area now, with nothing but trees under me. As I later told my flight instructor, I wasn't too worried, because I couldn't see all the trees because of the clouds. I could see enough to keep within the letter of the laws of the FAA, but not enough to make me worry about the stupidity of taking this direction home, with not much of a chance for a great landing area should I need that...hindsight is a great educator. I got some great shots of the beautiful patterns of frozen lake, and drifting snow, and ice floes. I passed the last airport for the next 40-50 miles and set my sights on the Mackinac/ Mackinaw Bridge. When the bridge came into view I took several pictures, got up some courage, and cut across the Lake and headed for the Lower Peninsula. At the point that I crossed the Lake, I had to cover about 20 miles of open water. This was also a less-than- brilliant move on my part, because I misjudged how far it really was. I could see the bridge, and knew that it was about 5 miles long, and just misjudged how far I would have to glide if engine problems occurred at that point...I think "get-there-itis" was clouding my thinking at that point. But I made it, and was glad to finally be heading straight south toward home. It was 3:08 PM when I was finally over the Lower, and I set my sights on one more hour of flying and then about one hour of find a suitable stayover spot for the night. I had of course been watching my fuel supply and all looked well at that point, with only an hour left to fly, and about two hours worth of fuel in which to do it. I set my sights on Clare Co. (80D) airport, mainly because it showed in the Airport Facility Directory that lodging was "adjacent" to the field. I was to find out that this was wrong. As I made my descent from about 5000' I witnessed the first of two low fuel warnings that I encountered during this trip. I leveled off during the descent with the runway in sight, and the light did not go off, so I continued my descent, knowing that I had about 15 minutes of fuel remaining in my header tank. When I reached pattern altitude, and leveled off, the light went out and I landed on the snow-covered runway. I taxied to a small restaurant and got some coffee, and inquired about the possibility of lodging, got the bad news, and decided to head for Mt Pleasant, 30 miles down the road. My thoughts were that the fuel would equalize in both tanks by the time I departed, and that if I didn't dawdle, I would have enough light to depart and get into Mt Pleasant (MOP) before the "civil evening twilight" rule made me stop for the night. When I checked the plane, I could see no fuel in the sight gauges at all. In retrospect, I think the plane was at a slight angle up or down, and that this was causing me to not see any on the sight gauges. I asked at the restaurant about getting some auto gas (the Jabiru engine can run on it, but I prefer avgas) and one kindly (but slow-moving) gentleman offered to drive me to get his can and some fuel. Let me tell you, when this pilot gets into "we better get moving along" mode (some would say that's putting it mildly), it seems like everything goes into slow-motion. Well, that's where we were that late, sun going down, times-a-wasting Sunday afternoon/early evening. This guy seemed to poke along without a care, getting the can from his shed, putting it in the car, brooming the snow off his boots, and the sun was going down. We got going again, down a long road, slowly coming up on a hill with a stop sign, him telling me "ya gotta watch out for snowmobiles here", then over the hill down the road and finally at the gas station with the sun going down. Back at the field, he told me to just put the can in the back of his car when I was done, would accept no money for his troubles...just "help somebody else out sometime"...I woulda loved the guy if I wasn't trying to get to someplace to stay for the night...and the sun was going down. I borrowed a step-stool from the restaurant, and hoisted the can above the wing. That's when I discovered how well the guy maintained his gas can. There apparently was no gasket on the filler spout, as the gas was going into the tank, and all over the wing at about a 3:2 ratio...maybe 3 parts into the tank and 2 parts all over and under the wing, and all over the flaperon, and onto the fuselage...and the sun was going down. Well, I got the fuel carefully wiped up with some snow, and then a rag slowly dragged over the surface so as to not cause a spark, and proceeded to get on my way. I tucked the rag under one of the braces of my skis, not wanting to bring it into the plane, and knowing that it wouldn't stay there long enough to cause any problems for me, at least. I left Clare Co. airport without incident, and headed for Mt Pleasant and got there just as the sun blinked out. I had made my first solo cross-country flight to this airport, and was glad to see Bob, an airport worker who remembered me and who had taken shots of my plane on that first visit. He recalled the Dale Earnhardt theme of my plane's paint job. He called the Holiday Inn to get a shuttle ride for me and we set out to tie the plane down. He couldn't find the tie- down locations in the snow, so he motioned me...I was taxiing behind him in the plane...to follow him to a 120 x 120 hangar for the second night in a row of hangar living for the plane. This time the cost was much more reasonable...$15 for the night as opposed to $50 the night before at Oshkosh. The next morning I checked the tanks and both showed over 5 gallons...more than enough for the 1-hour, 15 minute flight home. As I descended to my home strip from about 4000', the low-fuel light came on again, and went out as soon as I leveled off at pattern altitude. The next time I go to the hangar I'll fill the tanks and see just how low I was. From what I could tell from the limited fill-ups of fuel, either putting on the skis, taking off the wheel pants, flying into the wind for the most part, or just plain flying faster, the fuel economy has fallen from several readings of about 3.4 gph, to about 4.5 gph. Granted, this trip is a small cross section of information from which to get any real data, but it just might point out what drag can do to fuel economy. And of course, the last leg (south) I was into about a 45 degree head wind, so most of the trip was Bob Seger in nature....against the wind. Lynn do not archive


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    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: Speedster Electric Trim Wire Routing
    At 10:49 AM 2/2/2007, you wrote: >I would like to take the occasion to salute you, and the nice way >you document your work and explain it to the benefit of everyone. Thank you. :-[ And to think I un-subscribed last month because the signal / noise was just too low to justify the effort. I re-subscribed after a couple of days cooling. Guy Buchanan K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. Do not archive




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