Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Sat 02/03/07


Total Messages Posted: 36



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     1. 03:12 AM - Re: Oshkosh Skiplane trip...coming home...OFF TOPIC (kurt schrader)
     2. 03:18 AM - Re: High Voltage Indication (kurt schrader)
     3. 04:23 AM - Re: High Voltage Indication (Jimmie Blackwell)
     4. 04:50 AM - Re: High Voltage Indication (Fox5flyer)
     5. 04:57 AM - Re: High Voltage Indication (Bob)
     6. 05:27 AM - Re: High Voltage Indication (dave)
     7. 05:43 AM - Re: High Voltage Indication (dave)
     8. 05:57 AM - Re: High Voltage Indication (Glenn Horne)
     9. 06:15 AM - Re: Fuel System Questions=gasolator (Cudnohufsky's)
    10. 06:27 AM - sportflight.com (Gill Levesque)
    11. 06:34 AM - Re: High Voltage Indication (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
    12. 07:05 AM - Re:sportflight.com (Larry Martin)
    13. 08:01 AM - Re: High Voltage Indication (Lowell Fitt)
    14. 09:14 AM - Re: High Voltage Indication (kurt schrader)
    15. 09:40 AM - Re: Fuel flow, summary so far. (Randy Daughenbaugh)
    16. 10:30 AM - epoxys (jerry evans)
    17. 10:59 AM - Re: epoxys (Bradley M Webb)
    18. 11:06 AM - Re: epoxys (Alan Daniels)
    19. 11:54 AM - Re: epoxys (Guy Buchanan)
    20. 12:15 PM - Re: Fuel flow, summary so far. (Torgeir Mortensen)
    21. 03:28 PM - Re: High Voltage Indication (Torgeir Mortensen)
    22. 03:49 PM - Re: epoxys (Lowell Fitt)
    23. 04:23 PM - Re: epoxys (TC)
    24. 04:37 PM - RPM indicators for Rotax engines. (Torgeir Mortensen)
    25. 04:47 PM - Re: epoxys (Noel Loveys)
    26. 04:52 PM - Re: Fuel flow, summary so far. (Noel Loveys)
    27. 05:00 PM - Re: epoxys (Bradley M Webb)
    28. 05:07 PM - Re: Fuel flow, summary so far. (Bradley M Webb)
    29. 05:23 PM - 912 Choke Actuation Problem (W & R Beck)
    30. 05:26 PM - Landing Gear for Kitfox II (Mike)
    31. 06:09 PM - Re: Landing Gear for Kitfox II (dave)
    32. 06:36 PM - Re: 912 Choke Actuation Problem (Lowell Fitt)
    33. 06:42 PM - Re: 912 Choke Actuation Problem (C David Estapa)
    34. 07:50 PM - Re: Oshkosh Skiplane trip...coming home...OFF TOPIC (Lynn Matteson)
    35. 09:44 PM - Re: Landing Gear for Kitfox II (Alan Daniels)
    36. 09:48 PM - Re: Landing Gear for Kitfox II (Alan Daniels)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:12:54 AM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane trip...coming home...OFF TOPIC
    Gosh Lynn, All you missed was having the "You-Pers" (U-Pers?) blairing in your headset! Great story! Kurt S. Do not archive Get your own web address. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL


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    Time: 03:18:01 AM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: High Voltage Indication
    "Welded" points in the regulator, as has already been mentioned, is the likely cause. These points will develope pits on one side and built up points on the other. Gently prying the points open will show if that is true. Filing them level will temporarily fix it until replaced, but they will wear faster when filed. If you find the points are the problem, replace ASAP. Some things dont like the high voltage spikes. Kurt S. S-5 --- Jimmie Blackwell <JimmieBlackwell@austin.rr.com> wrote: > With engine running I normally see about 14 volts > indicated on the panel meter and pulsating slightly > if the strobes are on. While flying today I noted > that the voltage pegged high for awhile and then > settled back down to normal. A few minutes later > the volt meter again pegged high, (above 16 volts). > At that point I turned off the alternator circuit > and the meter immediately dropped down and showed a > steady 13-14 volts. Turning the alternator on again > the volt meter pegged high again, but after awhile > settled down to normal. > > Would appreciate any ideas on what may be causing > this indication. > > Jimmie > Model IV Speedster, 912 UL Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097


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    Time: 04:23:34 AM PST US
    From: "Jimmie Blackwell" <JimmieBlackwell@austin.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: High Voltage Indication
    Albert/Kurt Sounds like a likely source. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 5:17 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: High Voltage Indication > <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > "Welded" points in the regulator, as has already been > mentioned, is the likely cause. These points will > develope pits on one side and built up points on the > other. Gently prying the points open will show if > that is true. Filing them level will temporarily fix > it until replaced, but they will wear faster when > filed. If you find the points are the problem, > replace ASAP. Some things dont like the high voltage > spikes. > > Kurt S. S-5 > > --- Jimmie Blackwell <JimmieBlackwell@austin.rr.com> > wrote: > >> With engine running I normally see about 14 volts >> indicated on the panel meter and pulsating slightly >> if the strobes are on. While flying today I noted >> that the voltage pegged high for awhile and then >> settled back down to normal. A few minutes later >> the volt meter again pegged high, (above 16 volts). >> At that point I turned off the alternator circuit >> and the meter immediately dropped down and showed a >> steady 13-14 volts. Turning the alternator on again >> the volt meter pegged high again, but after awhile >> settled down to normal. >> >> Would appreciate any ideas on what may be causing >> this indication. >> >> Jimmie >> Model IV Speedster, 912 UL > > > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and > hotel bargains. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 > > >


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    Time: 04:50:07 AM PST US
    From: "Fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@i-star.com>
    Subject: Re: High Voltage Indication
    Sounds to me like the voltage regulator. Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimmie Blackwell To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 10:32 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: High Voltage Indication With engine running I normally see about 14 volts indicated on the panel meter and pulsating slightly if the strobes are on. While flying today I noted that the voltage pegged high for awhile and then settled back down to normal. A few minutes later the volt meter again pegged high, (above 16 volts). At that point I turned off the alternator circuit and the meter immediately dropped down and showed a steady 13-14 volts. Turning the alternator on again the volt meter pegged high again, but after awhile settled down to normal. Would appreciate any ideas on what may be causing this indication. Jimmie Model IV Speedster, 912 UL


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    Time: 04:57:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: High Voltage Indication
    From: "Bob" <dswaim1119@comcast.net>
    Good suggestions, but the first and easiest step is to check and clean each of the the alternator and battery connections. If a bit loose or corroded, the regulator may sense lower voltage (V=IR, with increased R) and try to make up for it. Bob -------- Remember that internet advice may only be worth what you pay. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=92545#92545


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    Time: 05:27:51 AM PST US
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: High Voltage Indication
    912 info overvoltage info you you guys, Dave Figure Z-16. Rotax 912/914 System is a "stone simple" electrical system typical of many aircraft fitted with permanent magnet alternators. A noteworthy feature in this figure is the means by which I've added OV protection to the alternator system. Many airplanes flying with a Rotax 912 have relatively small batteries. Even the limited 18 amps of alternator output can push the bus voltage up rather quickly on a small battery. Adding the relay and OV module as shown provides automatic protection from unobserved regulator failure. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 6:17 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: High Voltage Indication <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> "Welded" points in the regulator, as has already been mentioned, is the likely cause. These points will develope pits on one side and built up points on the other. Gently prying the points open will show if that is true. Filing them level will temporarily fix it until replaced, but they will wear faster when filed. If you find the points are the problem, replace ASAP. Some things dont like the high voltage spikes. Kurt S. S-5 --- Jimmie Blackwell <JimmieBlackwell@austin.rr.com> wrote: > With engine running I normally see about 14 volts > indicated on the panel meter and pulsating slightly > if the strobes are on. While flying today I noted > that the voltage pegged high for awhile and then > settled back down to normal. A few minutes later > the volt meter again pegged high, (above 16 volts). > At that point I turned off the alternator circuit > and the meter immediately dropped down and showed a > steady 13-14 volts. Turning the alternator on again > the volt meter pegged high again, but after awhile > settled down to normal. > > Would appreciate any ideas on what may be causing > this indication. > > Jimmie > Model IV Speedster, 912 UL Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097


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    Time: 05:43:29 AM PST US
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: High Voltage Indication
    Sorry, I forgot the link http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/Rev11/AppZ_R11J.pdf ----- Original Message ----- From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 8:24 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: High Voltage Indication 912 info overvoltage info you you guys, Dave Figure Z-16. Rotax 912/914 System is a "stone simple" electrical system typical of many aircraft fitted with permanent magnet alternators. A noteworthy feature in this figure is the means by which I've added OV protection to the alternator system. Many airplanes flying with a Rotax 912 have relatively small batteries. Even the limited 18 amps of alternator output can push the bus voltage up rather quickly on a small battery. Adding the relay and OV module as shown provides automatic protection from unobserved regulator failure. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 6:17 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: High Voltage Indication <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> "Welded" points in the regulator, as has already been mentioned, is the likely cause. These points will develope pits on one side and built up points on the other. Gently prying the points open will show if that is true. Filing them level will temporarily fix it until replaced, but they will wear faster when filed. If you find the points are the problem, replace ASAP. Some things dont like the high voltage spikes. Kurt S. S-5 --- Jimmie Blackwell <JimmieBlackwell@austin.rr.com> wrote: > With engine running I normally see about 14 volts > indicated on the panel meter and pulsating slightly > if the strobes are on. While flying today I noted > that the voltage pegged high for awhile and then > settled back down to normal. A few minutes later > the volt meter again pegged high, (above 16 volts). > At that point I turned off the alternator circuit > and the meter immediately dropped down and showed a > steady 13-14 volts. Turning the alternator on again > the volt meter pegged high again, but after awhile > settled down to normal. > > Would appreciate any ideas on what may be causing > this indication. > > Jimmie > Model IV Speedster, 912 UL Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097


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    Time: 05:57:28 AM PST US
    From: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: High Voltage Indication
    Had the same problem with my Key West regulator and it blew off the firewall. Called Key West manufacture and they have had problem with the older models regulators. The compactor inside is suppose to be vented to the atmosphere. If yours is a Key West give them a call and they will re-place it free. Glenn Horne Model II 582 ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimmie Blackwell To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 10:32 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: High Voltage Indication With engine running I normally see about 14 volts indicated on the panel meter and pulsating slightly if the strobes are on. While flying today I noted that the voltage pegged high for awhile and then settled back down to normal. A few minutes later the volt meter again pegged high, (above 16 volts). At that point I turned off the alternator circuit and the meter immediately dropped down and showed a steady 13-14 volts. Turning the alternator on again the volt meter pegged high again, but after awhile settled down to normal. Would appreciate any ideas on what may be causing this indication. Jimmie Model IV Speedster, 912 UL


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    Time: 06:15:32 AM PST US
    From: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@Chartermi.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel System Questions=gasolator
    Kurt & Deke, Thank You for your replys, I have decided not to install a gascolator (which is how the system was when I recieved it), keeping the fuel system as clean and simple as possible. Lloyd Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:37 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel System Questions=gasolator > <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > The gascolator will pass whatever is on top. As long > as there isn't enough water to fill it, you should get > fuel. But more water than that and it will pass > water. Of course there is some stiring going on, so > something less than a full gascolator cup will start > passing some water. > > Since my gascolator drain blew out in flight 2 years > ago on my S-5, I think it is more a danger than a help > to me. > > The good news is that my engine kept running at cruise > power, but higher EGT, so the fuel to the engine was > maintained, even with a quarter inch hole in the > gascolator and a fuel flow of way over 10 gph, half at > least blowing overboard. > > I intend to take all the components of the fuel system > not necessary and put them on the cabin side of the > firewall. Opposite of my origional feelings on this > one. Bigger fire potential on the front side. > > I will take out the gascolator and use the header > tank. The header tank will probably have a front > feed, rear drain for emptying the plane quickly, and a > bottom quick drain for fuel samples only. I keep > destroying my quick drain O rings using them to drain. > > I need one final filter up front somewhere, but > haven't decided where yet. The intent is to have all > flow going up to the engine after the header so there > are no air or water traps enroute. The header will > trap water and sediment and any air should flow up to > the main tanks or be bled out of the engine, once fuel > is added. > > Having the gascolater where mine was made more top and > bottom points on my fuel system than I liked, and > added a source of fuel leakage 4 inches from my > exhaust. Also it made another place for vapor lock to > occur. Cleaning this all up will make me feel safer, > at least.


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    Time: 06:27:06 AM PST US
    From: Gill Levesque <canpilot03@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: sportflight.com
    Can someone tell me what happened to sportflight .com ,s database page? Gil Levesque --------------------------------- All new Yahoo! Mail --------------------------------- Get news delivered. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page.


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    Time: 06:34:09 AM PST US
    From: kerrjohna@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: High Voltage Indication
    voltage regulator going, going, gone south.... It happened to me over the backwoods of Idaho. I coaxed it back to civilization and ordered a replacement from Lockwood. John Kerr -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Jimmie Blackwell" <JimmieBlackwell@austin.rr.com> With engine running I normally see about 14 volts indicated on the panel meter and pulsating slightly if the strobes are on. While flying today I noted that the voltage pegged high for awhile and then settled back down to normal. A few minutes later the volt meter again pegged high, (above 16 volts). At that point I turned off the alternator circuit and the meter immediately dropped down and showed a steady 13-14 volts. Turning the alternator on again the volt meter pegged high again, but after awhile settled down to normal. Would appreciate any ideas on what may be causing this indication. Jimmie Model IV Speedster, 912 UL <html><body> <DIV>voltage regulator going, going, gone south....</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>It happened to me over the backwoods of Idaho.&nbsp; I coaxed it back to civilization and ordered a replacement from Lockwood.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>John Kerr</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Jimmie Blackwell" &lt;JimmieBlackwell@austin.rr.com&gt; <BR> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.5730.11" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>With engine running I normally see about 14 volts indicated on the panel meter and pulsating slightly if the strobes are on.&nbsp; While flying today I noted that the voltage pegged high for awhile and then settled back down to normal.&nbsp; A&nbsp; few minutes later the volt meter again pegged high, (above 16 volts).&nbsp; At that point I turned off the alternator circuit and the meter immediately dropped down and showed a steady 13-14 volts.&nbsp; Turning the alternator on again the volt meter pegged high again, but after awhile settled down to normal.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Would appreciate any ideas on what may be causing this indication.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jimmie</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Model IV Speedster, 912 UL</FONT></DIV><PRE><B><FONT face="courier new,courier" size=2 color000000?> </B></FONT></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 07:05:36 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Martin" <CrownLJ@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re:sportflight.com
    ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Martin Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:10 AM Subject: Re: pictures, files, etc Thanks Don, Don't be sorry! You are providing us a great service! Thank you for your time, larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Pearsall To: 'Larry Martin' Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 8:21 PM Subject: RE: pictures, files, etc Larry, the problem is mine. I recently moved all my web files to another web host and have not done the programming to get it all working yet. I will get it done within a few days. Sorry, Don Don Pearsall Sound Appraisal Seattle, WA USA 425-392.4627 FAX 425-557-0107 donpearsall@comcast.net http://www.soundappraisal.com From: Larry Martin [mailto:CrownLJ@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:15 PM To: donpearsall@comcast.net Subject: pictures, files, etc Hi Don, I went to the old site "Sportflight" to look for some of the past files/picture of modifications and got this error " Not Found The requested URL /cgi-bin/uploader.pl was not found on this server " I guess I haven't kept up to where everything was moved too? Can you please assist? Thanks for your time, Larry Martin


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    Time: 08:01:46 AM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: High Voltage Indication
    Sorry, no joy here, the 912 has a generator and no points in the regualtor. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "kurt schrader" <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:17 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: High Voltage Indication > <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > "Welded" points in the regulator, as has already been > mentioned, is the likely cause. These points will > develope pits on one side and built up points on the > other. Gently prying the points open will show if > that is true. Filing them level will temporarily fix > it until replaced, but they will wear faster when > filed. If you find the points are the problem, > replace ASAP. Some things dont like the high voltage > spikes. > > Kurt S. S-5 > > --- Jimmie Blackwell <JimmieBlackwell@austin.rr.com> > wrote: > >> With engine running I normally see about 14 volts >> indicated on the panel meter and pulsating slightly >> if the strobes are on. While flying today I noted >> that the voltage pegged high for awhile and then >> settled back down to normal. A few minutes later >> the volt meter again pegged high, (above 16 volts). >> At that point I turned off the alternator circuit >> and the meter immediately dropped down and showed a >> steady 13-14 volts. Turning the alternator on again >> the volt meter pegged high again, but after awhile >> settled down to normal. >> >> Would appreciate any ideas on what may be causing >> this indication. >> >> Jimmie >> Model IV Speedster, 912 UL > > > Finding fabulous fares is fun. > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and > hotel bargains. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 > > >


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    Time: 09:14:37 AM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: High Voltage Indication
    Thanks lowell, The old points systems were not as reliable, but you could temp fix them with a fingernail file until you got home. Something gained, something lost. If not a bad connection as Rob says, a change is required. Hopefully the free replacement mentioned for the bad capacitor??? Kurt S. Do not archive --- Lowell Fitt <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Sorry, no joy here, the 912 has a generator and no > points in the regualtor. > > Lowell Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html


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    Time: 09:40:16 AM PST US
    From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
    Subject: Fuel flow, summary so far.
    "And this one, let's say that the left only have say 5 Gallon and the pilot make some left turns -airwork, observations who knows. I've always search for the worst case just to clarify or.. justify.." Torgeir Hey Torgeir, I always fly coordinated (Yah, You betcha, sure...), so it doesn't matter if I am turning right or left or flying straight. The situation you refer to only applies to slips or skids. Thanks for the drawings and discussion. Also thanks to Lowell and Guy for the head pressure calculations. This helps educate all of us on the list! Randy - Fuel tank caps now part of preflight!


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    Time: 10:30:36 AM PST US
    From: jerry evans <kitfox555@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: epoxys
    What is the filler that you mix with the system three t-88 structural adhesive to hold in vertical places not to sag while curing? Jerry Evans kitfox 555


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    Time: 10:59:54 AM PST US
    From: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
    Subject: epoxys
    Can you use baby/talcum powder? Cheap and easy. All you need to do is thicken the mixture. DO NOT use micro-balloons. While they do the job perfectly, you cannot breathe them in. Huge lung problems. Bradley _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jerry evans Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: epoxys What is the filler that you mix with the system three t-88 structural adhesive to hold in vertical places not to sag while curing? Jerry Evans kitfox 555 <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/04.gif>


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    Time: 11:06:13 AM PST US
    From: Alan Daniels <aldaniels@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: epoxys
    micro or flox depending on what you are doing. Micro is light and easy to work with but not as strong, flox adds strength but sands like concrete. jerry evans wrote: > What is the filler that you mix with the system three t-88 structural > adhesive to hold in vertical places not to sag while curing? > > > Jerry Evans > kitfox 555 > * > > > *


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    Time: 11:54:28 AM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: epoxys
    At 10:29 AM 2/3/2007, you wrote: >What is the filler that you mix with the system three t-88 >structural adhesive to hold in vertical places not to sag while curing? Depends on what you're doing. First, Bradley's right, wear a good mask when using any of these as none of them are great for your lungs or nasal passages. 1. Microballoons. (Ceramic, glass, Q-cel, phenolic) Decreases compression strength a little and tensile and shear strength a lot. Medium-easy to sand. They make a putty but do NOT increase the viscosity, meaning that your fillet still sags, it just happens slower than pure resin. These are mainly used to extend resin, though a lot of people use them to make fairing putties. I don't recommend the latter. 2. Chopped glass / carbon / boron. Increases compression strength a little and tensile and shear strength a lot. Hard to sand. Does not increase viscosity. (See above.) Note that these fibers are fairly long, on the order of inches. 3. Milled fiber. Same as chopped but much shorter fibers for a more putty like consistency. Used for structural fillets. 4. Cotton Flock. Increases tensile and shear strength a little. Also increases viscosity, making a fillet that stays in place. Hard to sand. 5. Colloidal Silica or Cab-0-Sil. These increase viscosity, making a putty that stays in place. I'm not sure about their strength properties. They're also sandable. 6. Talc. Used to make a cheap sanding filler. Non-structural. 7. West System's 409 Micro-Lite. This is the best sandable putty I've ever used. It was used extensively in the America's Cup before they went to female molds for the boats. Non-structural There's zillions more associated with non-skid, fire retardance, UV protection, etc. Guy Buchanan K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.


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    Time: 12:15:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel flow, summary so far.
    From: "Torgeir Mortensen" <torgemor@online.no>
    Hi Randy, Sure you're sooo right, it's so easy to forget the most elementary things.. I've also trying to be coordinated, but.. Thanks Randy. Cheers Torgeir On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:38:24 +0100, Randy Daughenbaugh <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com> wrote: > <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com> > > > "And this one, let's say that the left only have say 5 Gallon and the > pilot > make some left turns -airwork, observations who knows. > I've always search for the worst case just to clarify or.. justify.." > Torgeir > > > Hey Torgeir, > I always fly coordinated (Yah, You betcha, sure...), so it doesn't > matter > if I am turning right or left or flying straight. The situation you > refer > to only applies to slips or skids. > > Thanks for the drawings and discussion. Also thanks to Lowell and Guy > for > the head pressure calculations. This helps educate all of us on the > list! > > Randy - Fuel tank caps now part of preflight! > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/


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    Time: 03:28:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: High Voltage Indication
    From: "Torgeir Mortensen" <torgemor@online.no>
    Hi Jimmie, Interesting, this one. As many already said, this system is a "permanent magnet generator" system, well -if you do not have the "optional alternator system" with this fault.. :) Anyhow, this is the charging system that's found in all of the Rotax engines, even the smallest of them.. The (big?) benefit of this system -over the standard alternator setup is this(I'll belive); this system do not need any excitation voltage to come alive. So, if your battery is completely dead and you manage to start your engine, this system start to deliver power anytime the engine is running. Yes, -as all the others out there I'll agree this might be the rectifier-regulator that's fails "now and then". But, don't throw away your old regulator yet, -cause I do believe there is a spare circuit inside this box! Why you might ask, well remember this unit is born as a three phase unit -and most probably contain one more SCR (silicone controlled rectifier) unit that's working OK. Now remember this regulator contain three yellow input wires, and one of them is never in use, so you'll have two more combination to try -and one of them probably give you a new regulator.. This depend a little if there is one zener for each phase, or if it just one zener for all three phases -then bad luck, if it is the zener that's the problem, bad luck. Over the yrs. most of the problems like this is due to a faulty zener (diode), but sometimes other parts fails. So, make a try! Just something general about this system; This regulator shunt the alternator if the voltage arise above the preset voltage (close to 14 volt), then the SCR short all the way until the current cross the "zero" line, then it's ready for a new shot (half period). So you see, this system work with full load all the time, even when your battery is fully charged or all empty. Here's a link to tympanium corp., the producer of those regulators: I'll think the design tip is worth reading. http://www.tympanium.com/index.html Here's another one, a complete schematic, for those who want to build your own one -go for diodes and SCR's handling 40 Amp's and this never fails, :) , experimental -yes :) : http://www.takisnet.org/~abayko/vreg.pdf You know, I've often heard lot's of good thing about Key West rectifier regulator, but folks where can we find some more facts about this regulator, -as is this a serial regulator (?), or is this just another shunt rectifier-regulator? Why do I ask like this, well - (see my next posting). Keep up the good work, and good luck. Torgeir. On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 04:32:40 +0100, Jimmie Blackwell <JimmieBlackwell@austin.rr.com> wrote: > With engine running I normally see about 14 volts indicated on the panel > meter and pulsating slightly if the strobes are on. While flying today > I noted that the voltage pegged high for awhile and then settled back > down to normal. A few minutes later the volt meter again pegged high, > (above 16 volts). At that point I turned off the alternator circuit and > the meter immediately dropped down and showed a steady 13-14 volts. > Turning the alternator on again the volt meter pegged high again, but > after awhile settled down to normal. > > Would appreciate any ideas on what may be causing this indication. > > Jimmie > Model IV Speedster, 912 UL -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/


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    Time: 03:49:57 PM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: epoxys
    Hi, Bradley, In the Lancari project I have been helping with we have used a "ton" of mircroballoons. I have been monitering the Lancari list for two years and this if the first time I have read "NO NOT" with regard to microballoons. I spent some time on Google trying to find a MSDS on microballoons wothout success. Can you elaberate on it's hazards and maybe stear me to a MSDS. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 10:59 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: epoxys > Can you use baby/talcum powder? Cheap and easy. All you need to do is > thicken the mixture. > > > DO NOT use micro-balloons. While they do the job perfectly, you cannot > breathe them in. Huge lung problems. > > > Bradley > > > _____ > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jerry evans > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:30 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: epoxys > > > What is the filler that you mix with the system three t-88 structural > adhesive to hold in vertical places not to sag while curing? > > > Jerry Evans > kitfox 555 <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/04.gif> > > >


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    Time: 04:23:55 PM PST US
    From: "TC" <flier@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: epoxys
    Use cotton flox to thicken structural adhesive. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: epoxys Hi, Bradley, In the Lancari project I have been helping with we have used a "ton" of mircroballoons. I have been monitering the Lancari list for two years and this if the first time I have read "NO NOT" with regard to microballoons. I spent some time on Google trying to find a MSDS on microballoons wothout success. Can you elaberate on it's hazards and maybe stear me to a MSDS. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 10:59 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: epoxys > Can you use baby/talcum powder? Cheap and easy. All you need to do is > thicken the mixture. > > > DO NOT use micro-balloons. While they do the job perfectly, you cannot > breathe them in. Huge lung problems. > > > Bradley > > > _____ > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jerry evans > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:30 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: epoxys > > > What is the filler that you mix with the system three t-88 structural > adhesive to hold in vertical places not to sag while curing? > > > Jerry Evans > kitfox 555 <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/04.gif> > > >


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    Time: 04:37:06 PM PST US
    Subject: RPM indicators for Rotax engines.
    From: "Torgeir Mortensen" <torgemor@online.no>
    Hi there, For a long time, I've been looking into this RPM problem related to our Rotax engines. You know, I've had it, on my "very" old (sorry lady), engine setup. Well, this RPM indication problem is NOT related to the "simple" Rotax RPM indicator! Hey, this very same principle is used in the most reliable RPM setups we know about out there! There is only two wires going into the RPM indicator, just a signal and no power(?). OK., since the signal is just an alternating voltage, we simply "steal" a little of this energy for the indicator, using a full wave (or half wave) rectifier for power, then we measure the RPM(frequency) of this alternating voltage, you see, -simple. The thing is that our "well known" charging system is the problem! Before any protest here, ( :) ); Try this: Make sure that you can see the problem, yes -your RPM indicator is reading to low (as always -and normal)! This might be confirmed with the hand hold optical device. Now, discharge your battery a little (well -make sure there's enough juice for a restart of the engine), start your engine, switch on a little of the load that you have, LDG lights etc. -if necessary. What kind of RPM reading do you see now? Right, normal - but how can this be? This is something we'll discuss, but first some confirmation, from those with the problem.. Torgeir. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/


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    Time: 04:47:02 PM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: epoxys
    The only place I used a filler in epoxy was on my boat. What I found is filling with silicon made a much harder finish. Sanding was much harder than the micro balloons but it can be applied so very little sanding was necessary. Noel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Lowell Fitt > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 8:18 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: epoxys > > > <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> > > Hi, Bradley, > > In the Lancari project I have been helping with we have used > a "ton" of > mircroballoons. I have been monitering the Lancari list for > two years and > this if the first time I have read "NO NOT" with regard to > microballoons. I > spent some time on Google trying to find a MSDS on > microballoons wothout > success. Can you elaberate on it's hazards and maybe stear > me to a MSDS. > > Lowell > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 10:59 AM > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: epoxys > > > > Can you use baby/talcum powder? Cheap and easy. All you > need to do is > > thicken the mixture. > > > > > > > > DO NOT use micro-balloons. While they do the job perfectly, > you cannot > > breathe them in. Huge lung problems. > > > > > > > > Bradley > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf > Of jerry evans > > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:30 PM > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Kitfox-List: epoxys > > > > > > > > What is the filler that you mix with the system three t-88 > structural > > adhesive to hold in vertical places not to sag while curing? > > > > > > > > Jerry Evans > > kitfox 555 > <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/04.gif> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:52:35 PM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Fuel flow, summary so far.
    After spending quite a few hours contemplating the turn co-ordinator in my plane I read the best way to fly co-ordinated was to try to feel the movements in the controls through, for lack of a better term, your derriere. I tried on a couple of flights and it is remarkable just how well you can co-ordinate "by the seat of your pants". Noel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Torgeir Mortensen > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 4:45 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel flow, summary so far. > > > <torgemor@online.no> > > Hi Randy, > > Sure you're sooo right, it's so easy to forget the most > elementary things.. > > I've also trying to be coordinated, but.. > > Thanks Randy. > > Cheers > > Torgeir > > > On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:38:24 +0100, Randy Daughenbaugh > <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com> wrote: > > > <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com> > > > > > > "And this one, let's say that the left only have say 5 > Gallon and the > > pilot > > make some left turns -airwork, observations who knows. > > I've always search for the worst case just to clarify or.. > justify.." > > Torgeir > > > > > > Hey Torgeir, > > I always fly coordinated (Yah, You betcha, sure...), so it > doesn't > > matter > > if I am turning right or left or flying straight. The > situation you > > refer > > to only applies to slips or skids. > > > > Thanks for the drawings and discussion. Also thanks to > Lowell and Guy > > for > > the head pressure calculations. This helps educate all of > us on the > > list! > > > > Randy - Fuel tank caps now part of preflight! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > > > > >


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    Time: 05:00:57 PM PST US
    From: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
    Subject: epoxys
    I'll have to do some searching. A few years ago, the subject came up in the RC model world, as microballoons are very popular in that hobby. At the moment, I can't back that up with paper, but I do remember that the result of that discussion was that the small glass beads are like breathing diamond dust, and really chews up the lining in the lungs, a similar thing to what happened to miners years back with no protection. I'll see if I can find anything. Bradley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 6:48 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: epoxys Hi, Bradley, In the Lancari project I have been helping with we have used a "ton" of mircroballoons. I have been monitering the Lancari list for two years and this if the first time I have read "NO NOT" with regard to microballoons. I spent some time on Google trying to find a MSDS on microballoons wothout success. Can you elaberate on it's hazards and maybe stear me to a MSDS. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 10:59 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: epoxys > Can you use baby/talcum powder? Cheap and easy. All you need to do is > thicken the mixture. > > > DO NOT use micro-balloons. While they do the job perfectly, you cannot > breathe them in. Huge lung problems. > > > Bradley > > > _____ > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jerry evans > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:30 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: epoxys > > > What is the filler that you mix with the system three t-88 structural > adhesive to hold in vertical places not to sag while curing? > > > Jerry Evans > kitfox 555 <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/04.gif> > > >


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    Time: 05:07:56 PM PST US
    From: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
    Subject: Fuel flow, summary so far.
    I've heard that some pilots are very sensitive to that feeling. I, myself, find it a little hard to judge. Not sure why, just could never really rely on my ass to push the rudders. Now, the Lancair IV my buddy just finished, I can feel a hair's width of slip in that thing. Again, I don't know why, but he once almost made me sick, it was yawing so much. No problem keeping that one centered by touch. My 'fox flies like yours, but for me it seems a little hard to get centered by feel. I think it may be due to the fact I am a Cessna baby, and the rudders on those hardly work at all (at least in comparison to a 'fox). So, I probably didn't really learn to feel it in my initial training. Bradley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fuel flow, summary so far. After spending quite a few hours contemplating the turn co-ordinator in my plane I read the best way to fly co-ordinated was to try to feel the movements in the controls through, for lack of a better term, your derriere. I tried on a couple of flights and it is remarkable just how well you can co-ordinate "by the seat of your pants". Noel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Torgeir Mortensen > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 4:45 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fuel flow, summary so far. > > > <torgemor@online.no> > > Hi Randy, > > Sure you're sooo right, it's so easy to forget the most > elementary things.. > > I've also trying to be coordinated, but.. > > Thanks Randy. > > Cheers > > Torgeir > > > On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:38:24 +0100, Randy Daughenbaugh > <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com> wrote: > > > <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com> > > > > > > "And this one, let's say that the left only have say 5 > Gallon and the > > pilot > > make some left turns -airwork, observations who knows. > > I've always search for the worst case just to clarify or.. > justify.." > > Torgeir > > > > > > Hey Torgeir, > > I always fly coordinated (Yah, You betcha, sure...), so it > doesn't > > matter > > if I am turning right or left or flying straight. The > situation you > > refer > > to only applies to slips or skids. > > > > Thanks for the drawings and discussion. Also thanks to > Lowell and Guy > > for > > the head pressure calculations. This helps educate all of > us on the > > list! > > > > Randy - Fuel tank caps now part of preflight! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > > > > >


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    Time: 05:23:52 PM PST US
    From: "W & R Beck" <trevorkebb@earthlink.net>
    Subject: 912 Choke Actuation Problem
    Folks: A quick question: I have a friend with a completed Classic IV who is getting close to first engine start. Recently we have been going over his Rotax 912 installation with a fine tooth comb. Today we tackled his cockpit mounted 'choke' (enrichener) control, which had I noticed is extremely difficult to pull, and hold, out (choke ON). It is set up to the right of the throttle and has quite a small knob. Skystar supplied. At first I suspected his cable routing or binding in the cables but they sure looked alright, with relatively gentle bends to each carb. Next we disconnected the choke lever return springs at each carb. MUCH easier but still not baby-smooth. Then we disconnected the cables from the choke levers on the carbs. The levers are free and not binding in any way. We buttoned it all back up, adjusted the throws so each lever is being pulled equally through its entire stroke, attached the springs and, man, that choke control seems to take 50+lbs or more of force to actuate. Those 2 little return springs add up to powerful resistance. In fact, my friend cannot pull it out and needs to grab it with a wrench. I am pretty beefy and I can pull it out but it seems like way too much effort to do so and too much effort to hold it out. Part of the problem is the very small knob on the control supplied by Skystar. If it were the size of a ping-pong ball it would be much easier. Since his basic installation seems sound, done and modified per Skystar, and no individual items in the system seem to be binding, it got me wondering if others have run into the same problem. Do you need to be a gorilla to actuate the choke? Anything to suggest or a modification to make? How do you 912 drivers handle starting with the right hand all taken up straining at the choke? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Robert Beck Go Bears!


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    Time: 05:26:45 PM PST US
    From: Mike <mclayton@rochester.rr.com>
    Subject: Landing Gear for Kitfox II
    I am rebuilding a badly damaged KitFox II, S/N 89. One of the problems is that the right landing gear was partially rebuilt, and is not the same as the left landing gear, which was undamaged. I would like to avoid building a jig to make a new gear, and wondered if anyone had a gear available, and in good condition. I don't need the tire, wheel, or brakes. Alternatively, does anyone have a drawing, sketch, or the necessary dimensions to allow me to make a new one? Mike


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    Time: 06:09:09 PM PST US
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: Landing Gear for Kitfox II
    Mike, First I would contact John Mc Bean as he might be able to make you one. secondly if that fails I will get you some measurements possibly from blueprints I have for a Kitfox 1 clone. thirdly I can build you one if it the same. I have most jigs for the KF 1 Clone . Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <mclayton@rochester.rr.com> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 8:26 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Landing Gear for Kitfox II > > I am rebuilding a badly damaged KitFox II, S/N 89. One of the problems > is that the right landing gear was partially rebuilt, and is not the same > as the left landing gear, which was undamaged. I would like to avoid > building a jig to make a new gear, and wondered if anyone had a gear > available, and in good condition. I don't need the tire, wheel, or > brakes. Alternatively, does anyone have a drawing, sketch, or the > necessary dimensions to allow me to make a new one? > > Mike > > >


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    Time: 06:36:41 PM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: 912 Choke Actuation Problem
    Hey, what's this go Bears stuff - just kidding. The choke is a tough one. I'll tell you what I did. First, I drilled a hole throught the base of the knob and threadded a key ring through that. A finger through the ring gives a much better purchase. Another thing I did was to take a piece of Nylaflow tubing - some really fine stuff and slit it with a Dremel type cut off wheel and threaded it into the bent tubes with the unslit - good side toward the bend. All in all the ring was the hand saver. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "W & R Beck" <trevorkebb@earthlink.net> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 5:23 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 Choke Actuation Problem Folks: A quick question: I have a friend with a completed Classic IV who is getting close to first engine start. Recently we have been going over his Rotax 912 installation with a fine tooth comb. Today we tackled his cockpit mounted 'choke' (enrichener) control, which had I noticed is extremely difficult to pull, and hold, out (choke ON). It is set up to the right of the throttle and has quite a small knob. Skystar supplied. At first I suspected his cable routing or binding in the cables but they sure looked alright, with relatively gentle bends to each carb. Next we disconnected the choke lever return springs at each carb. MUCH easier but still not baby-smooth. Then we disconnected the cables from the choke levers on the carbs. The levers are free and not binding in any way. We buttoned it all back up, adjusted the throws so each lever is being pulled equally through its entire stroke, attached the springs and, man, that choke control seems to take 50+lbs or more of force to actuate. Those 2 little return springs add up to powerful resistance. In fact, my friend cannot pull it out and needs to grab it with a wrench. I am pretty beefy and I can pull it out but it seems like way too much effort to do so and too much effort to hold it out. Part of the problem is the very small knob on the control supplied by Skystar. If it were the size of a ping-pong ball it would be much easier. Since his basic installation seems sound, done and modified per Skystar, and no individual items in the system seem to be binding, it got me wondering if others have run into the same problem. Do you need to be a gorilla to actuate the choke? Anything to suggest or a modification to make? How do you 912 drivers handle starting with the right hand all taken up straining at the choke? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Robert Beck Go Bears!


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    Time: 06:42:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 912 Choke Actuation Problem
    From: C David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com>
    Robert, I had the same problem. Finally disconnected it all and use the primer system. Works well. Only thing I could figure was the cable was sitting on the shelf for a few years. C. David Estapa Woodstock, GA N97DE S5TD Do not archive


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    Time: 07:50:11 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane trip...coming home...OFF TOPIC
    For a minute there I thought I had much to learn about flying...I couldn't figure out what flying term a U-Per was...then I recalled. The U-Pers call us trolls, 'cause we live "under" the Bridge...thanks, Kurt. Lynn p.s. I filled the tanks this morning, and the amount should boost my GPH by about a good amount..I'll post later, but I'm going to a coffee fly-in in our 5 F weather right now. do not archive On Feb 3, 2007, at 6:11 AM, kurt schrader wrote: > <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> > > Gosh Lynn, > > All you missed was having the "You-Pers" (U-Pers?) > blairing in your headset! > > Great story! > > Kurt S. > > Do not archive > > > Get your own web address. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL > >


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    Time: 09:44:41 PM PST US
    From: Alan Daniels <aldaniels@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: Landing Gear for Kitfox II
    I have a like new set of tube gear for a Model 2 in my hangar which you can have for very reasonable and shipping. Contact me off list for details. Alan Daniels Mike wrote: > > I am rebuilding a badly damaged KitFox II, S/N 89. One of the > problems is that the right landing gear was partially rebuilt, and is > not the same as the left landing gear, which was undamaged. I would > like to avoid building a jig to make a new gear, and wondered if > anyone had a gear available, and in good condition. I don't need the > tire, wheel, or brakes. Alternatively, does anyone have a drawing, > sketch, or the necessary dimensions to allow me to make a new one? > > Mike > >


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    Time: 09:48:22 PM PST US
    From: Alan Daniels <aldaniels@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: Landing Gear for Kitfox II
    Correction they might be for a model 3. I don't know if it will fit. I can measure them up to see if they will work. Alan Mike wrote: > > I am rebuilding a badly damaged KitFox II, S/N 89. One of the > problems is that the right landing gear was partially rebuilt, and is > not the same as the left landing gear, which was undamaged. I would > like to avoid building a jig to make a new gear, and wondered if > anyone had a gear available, and in good condition. I don't need the > tire, wheel, or brakes. Alternatively, does anyone have a drawing, > sketch, or the necessary dimensions to allow me to make a new one? > > Mike > >




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