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1. 08:10 AM - Re: Tinted or clear windscreen (Lynn Matteson)
2. 09:13 AM - Re: Tiny Tach (Tom Jones)
3. 01:31 PM - Re: Tinted or clear windscreen (DanM)
4. 02:35 PM - Re: Re: Tiny Tach (Marco Menezes)
5. 02:43 PM - Re: Re: Tinted or clear windscreen (Jose M. Toro)
6. 03:10 PM - Re: Tinted or clear windscreen (DanM)
7. 03:38 PM - Re: Re: Tinted or clear windscreen (Lynn Matteson)
8. 03:59 PM - New Web Site (Lowell Fitt)
9. 04:03 PM - Re: Tinted or clear windscreen (DanM)
10. 05:49 PM - Re: Tiny Tach (Nick Scholtes)
11. 06:50 PM - To the Kitfox group - Info about the latest on the GEO conversion. (Earl White)
12. 09:39 PM - Re: To the Kitfox group - Info about the latest on the GEO conversion. (ron schick)
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| Subject: | Re: Tinted or clear windscreen |
I have the grey (smoke?) tinted LP Aeroplastics windshield/skylight
on my IV, and have found no problems with it.
Lynn
On Feb 22, 2007, at 5:14 PM, DanM wrote:
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> I have smoke tinted one piece turtledeck for my model IV. I'm
> concidering going with a smoke tinted windscreen as well. Any
> opinions out there, pro or con??
>
> Thanks
>
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> Dan Mc Intyre
> Kitfox Model IV, Jab 2200
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p'747#96747
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[quote="msm_9949(at)yahoo.com"]Thanks guys, but back to my original question: Can
anyone tell me what model to get for a 582?
The 582 fires each cylinder at top and bottom with each plug wire, ie. each plug
wire fires two times for each revolution of the crank shaft. Being that you
hook the tiny tack to one spark plug wire, I would say the model 1C is the one
for a 582.
Tom Jones
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| Subject: | Re: Tinted or clear windscreen |
Thanks all for the advice on the windscreen tinting decision, I think I will go
with smoke tinted. Based on the replies as well as knowing how hot and bright
get here in central california in the summer.
Do not archieve
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Dan Mc Intyre
Kitfox Model IV, Jab 2200
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Thanks Tom. That's the answer I was looking for, confirmed by tech support at Tiny
Tach. Model 1C, attach a wire (2-3 wraps) to each plug of one Ducati ignition
system.
[quote="msm_9949(at)yahoo.com"]Thanks guys, but back to my original question: Can
anyone tell me what model to get for a 582?
The 582 fires each cylinder at top and bottom with each plug wire, ie. each plug
wire fires two times for each revolution of the crank shaft. Being that you
hook the tiny tack to one spark plug wire, I would say the model 1C is the one
for a 582.
Tom Jones
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Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Re: Tinted or clear windscreen |
Dan:
Do you have a picture of your Jab powered Kitfox that you may share with the list?
Jose
----- Original Message ----
From: DanM <danm@gangnailtruss.com>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 5:30:37 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Tinted or clear windscreen
Thanks all for the advice on the windscreen tinting decision, I think I will go
with smoke tinted. Based on the replies as well as knowing how hot and bright
get here in central california in the summer.
Do not archieve
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Dan Mc Intyre
Kitfox Model IV, Jab 2200
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| Subject: | Re: Tinted or clear windscreen |
Yes, some construction photos, the Kitfox is about 90% complete. I'll dig some
up and try and post them.
Do not archieve
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Dan Mc Intyre
Kitfox Model IV, Jab 2200
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| Subject: | Re: Tinted or clear windscreen |
Welcome to Kitfox, and Kitfox's with Jabiru's in particular,
Dan....or have you been with this group for awhile, and I'm just senile?
Lynn
Kitfox IV Speedster...Jabiru 2200
do not archive
On Feb 23, 2007, at 6:10 PM, DanM wrote:
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> Yes, some construction photos, the Kitfox is about 90% complete.
> I'll dig some up and try and post them.
>
> Do not archieve
>
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> Dan Mc Intyre
> Kitfox Model IV, Jab 2200
>
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List,
Pardon the post, but a friend and I have formed a small Kitfox assist
partnership. We hope to offer some things that may have some benefit to
Kitfox owners and builders. We are small to be sure, but hope to add more
to the line-up as we grow.
We have a website that shows what we have and as a bonus, we will be posting
short video segments on a regular basis - weekly is the plan - to show some
of the places Kitfoxes can go and what they can do. These are real fun
airplanes to be sure.
The URL is http://highwingllc.com . We have been on line for three weeks so
check the video archive section for the other two video segments. We have
accumulated lots of hours of video so return regularly for a look.
Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Tinted or clear windscreen |
Lynn, I've been a "lurker" for quite sometime. I have some questions so I thought
I would join in. Working out pretty good.
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Dan Mc Intyre
Kitfox Model IV, Jab 2200
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Roger,
The SenDEC tach is pretty much just like the Tiny Tach ('cept that it
doesn't lock up arbitrarily!), in that it's powered by an internal Li
battery. It gets it's input by a very novel, non-contact approach. You
simply take a wire of any length that you'd like, on the "engine" end,
wrap it a couple of turns around the spark plug wire (just like the Tiny
Tach), and on the tach end, there is a little hole and strain-relief
molded into the plastic housing, and you just insert the end of the wire
into that. Viola', hooked up! Very clever, IMO.
Best,
Nick
Time: 06:00:33 PM PST US
From: "Roger Standley" <taildragon@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Tiny Tach
Nick,I, too, have had poor luck with the Tiny Tach.
I went to the SenDEC site and still have a couple questions and you ma
y know the answers. From where does it take its rpm input? What is its
power requirement? Same as the Tiny Tach?
Thank you,
Roger
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| Subject: | To the Kitfox group - Info about the latest on the GEO conversion. |
Please excuse this newbie. Not really sure how the forum is going to
work, but I will keep trying untill I get it right.
OK, I have my private license, but I HATE the small cessnas that I had
to train in because you can't see out of them well enough Almost got
killed in a midair situation. The other plane never saw me either, and
we missed at a 90 degree angle by about 3 or four feet. No time to
react.
Anyway, I have a friend who has no access to this fine site, No email.
Lives in rural Kansas, and the IP is not into good service, so he does
without. We communicate from his work email and by phone. The friend's
name is Bruce Bennett and he has two Kitfoxes.
The first one is a GEO metro conversion that he bought from his father
in law about two years ago.
It will fly for a few minutes before it overheats and he has to land, so
he never leaves the pattern.
This is really a shame because it's a beautiful bird.
Starts easy, runs strong untill it overheats and he has to set it down.
Bruce is a good pilot and also has his private pilot's license.
The Geo is a 1000 cc three cylinder with a Raven re-drive and a three
bladed prop. I believe that he can achieve 5200 engine rpms on the
ground without a problem.
Radiator- Bruce's kitfox kit had a radiator for a Rotax installation in
the items included with the plane, but his father in law opted for the
GEO for the reason of cost and availabillity. Bruce's father in law lost
his medical, and could no longer fly, so Bruce bought the project and
has been trying to fly off the neccessary hours to get the plane ready
for it's homebuilt inspection and certification papers. the radiator
from the Rotax 912 was plumbed into the system and was mounted across
the fuselage under the belly of the bird right in the airstream. there
was no shroud or cowling. It didn't provide enough cooling, and the
temp would reach 220 in about two minutes flying time. The engine would
never over heat on the ground which we thought was puzzling, but would
wait untill you were on the crosswind or downwind leg of the pattern and
the rpm's would start to drop off. We thought this to be rather a
downing gripe, so we tried several other arrangements with larger
radiators. One of these was about 2 ft square, and also hung down below
the fuselage directly in the airstream, and it did provide more flying
time, but at the expense of a huge amount of drag, whichalso limited the
airspeed to about 55 or 60. With this confiuration on a cool day, the
plane did not overheat, but was definitely nose heavy, and the large
area of the radiator was too much drag for the machine to call it
anything but an experiment. We knew this, of course, but it was a way to
help troubleshoot the overheating problem that was not too complicated
or hard to understand. BUT there has been no real improvement in this
situation for about a year, and Bruce has put the Kitfox asside for a
more flyable aircraft which is an Ercoupe. There is no overheating
problem with it, , and it is more of a dependable ride by far.
So what I need from this group if anyone has the time or can steer me in
the right direction a source of Kitfox owners that are still running the
non-turbo GEO conversions with the Raven RE-drive who are NOT
overheating and who are willing to share their experiences and know how.
Maybe some pics. I will get a list of questions together for Bruce to
answer, and be the Laision officer, but I'm sure that Bruce would answer
any and all who might be willing to help in any way.
Anyone can send me email off the forum and I will be more than glad to
forward it to Bruce and get this Kitfox fixed once and for all.
Thanks and hello from North Idaho!
Earl White
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| Subject: | To the Kitfox group - Info about the latest on the GEO |
conversion.
Earl Mine is not Geo, but I had the same symptom and found my tach was off
by a mile. Try a photo tach from an rc hobby shop to make sure you are not
attempting 7000 rpms. After pitching my prop the other way it does fine.
Yes the Geo does stay cool on other planes. Ron NB Ore
>From: "Earl White" <earlwhite4@verizon.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: To the Kitfox group - Info about the latest on the
>GEO conversion.
>Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:48:32 -0800
>
>Please excuse this newbie. Not really sure how the forum is going to work,
>but I will keep trying untill I get it right.
>
>OK, I have my private license, but I HATE the small cessnas that I had to
>train in because you can't see out of them well enough Almost got killed
>in a midair situation. The other plane never saw me either, and we missed
>at a 90 degree angle by about 3 or four feet. No time to react.
>
>Anyway, I have a friend who has no access to this fine site, No email.
>Lives in rural Kansas, and the IP is not into good service, so he does
>without. We communicate from his work email and by phone. The friend's name
>is Bruce Bennett and he has two Kitfoxes.
>The first one is a GEO metro conversion that he bought from his father in
>law about two years ago.
>It will fly for a few minutes before it overheats and he has to land, so he
>never leaves the pattern.
>
>This is really a shame because it's a beautiful bird.
>Starts easy, runs strong untill it overheats and he has to set it down.
>Bruce is a good pilot and also has his private pilot's license.
>
>The Geo is a 1000 cc three cylinder with a Raven re-drive and a three
>bladed prop. I believe that he can achieve 5200 engine rpms on the ground
>without a problem.
>
>Radiator- Bruce's kitfox kit had a radiator for a Rotax installation in the
>items included with the plane, but his father in law opted for the GEO for
>the reason of cost and availabillity. Bruce's father in law lost his
>medical, and could no longer fly, so Bruce bought the project and has been
>trying to fly off the neccessary hours to get the plane ready for it's
>homebuilt inspection and certification papers. the radiator from the Rotax
>912 was plumbed into the system and was mounted across the fuselage under
>the belly of the bird right in the airstream. there was no shroud or
>cowling. It didn't provide enough cooling, and the temp would reach 220 in
>about two minutes flying time. The engine would never over heat on the
>ground which we thought was puzzling, but would wait untill you were on the
>crosswind or downwind leg of the pattern and the rpm's would start to drop
>off. We thought this to be rather a downing gripe, so we tried several
>other arrangements with larger radiators. One of these was about 2 ft
>square, and also hung down below the fuselage directly in the airstream,
>and it did provide more flying time, but at the expense of a huge amount of
>drag, whichalso limited the airspeed to about 55 or 60. With this
>confiuration on a cool day, the plane did not overheat, but was definitely
>nose heavy, and the large area of the radiator was too much drag for the
>machine to call it anything but an experiment. We knew this, of course, but
>it was a way to help troubleshoot the overheating problem that was not too
>complicated or hard to understand. BUT there has been no real improvement
>in this situation for about a year, and Bruce has put the Kitfox asside for
>a more flyable aircraft which is an Ercoupe. There is no overheating
>problem with it, , and it is more of a dependable ride by far.
>
>So what I need from this group if anyone has the time or can steer me in
>the right direction a source of Kitfox owners that are still running the
>non-turbo GEO conversions with the Raven RE-drive who are NOT overheating
>and who are willing to share their experiences and know how. Maybe some
>pics. I will get a list of questions together for Bruce to answer, and be
>the Laision officer, but I'm sure that Bruce would answer any and all who
>might be willing to help in any way.
>
>Anyone can send me email off the forum and I will be more than glad to
>forward it to Bruce and get this Kitfox fixed once and for all.
>
>Thanks and hello from North Idaho!
>
>Earl White
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