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1. 01:12 AM - Re: Good bye for a while. (Michael Gibbs)
2. 03:26 AM - Re: Good bye for a while. (Michel Verheughe)
3. 05:11 AM - Re: CO2 in Cockpit (fox5flyer)
4. 05:42 AM - Good bye for a while. (fox5flyer)
5. 05:52 AM - Re: CO2 in Cockpit (GAry Olson)
6. 06:38 AM - Re: Good bye for a while. (Mdkitfox@aol.com)
7. 06:44 AM - Re: Rotax service (Mdkitfox@aol.com)
8. 07:07 AM - Re: CO2 in Cockpit (Michel Verheughe)
9. 07:35 AM - wanted to purchase Kitfox Tri-gear (Ann7d@wmconnect.com)
10. 07:55 AM - Re: Rotax service (Lowell Fitt)
11. 08:22 AM - Re: Rotax service (Lynn Matteson)
12. 08:24 AM - Re: Rotax service (kenneth schooley)
13. 09:32 AM - Re: Re: CO2 in Cockpit (GAry Olson)
14. 09:47 AM - Re: wanted to purchase Kitfox Tri-gear (JimmieBlackwell@austin.rr.com)
15. 10:30 AM - NSI A30 propeeler transmission for sale (Bob Holiday)
16. 12:09 PM - 912 ULS Noise Capacitor (David Estapa)
17. 12:21 PM - Re: Re: CO2 in Cockpit (Barry West)
18. 12:37 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox ferry flight to Alaska (Larry/Cathy Boone)
19. 12:48 PM - Re: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor (Tom Jones)
20. 12:57 PM - Re: Re: CO2 in Cockpit (Michel Verheughe)
21. 01:24 PM - Wheelpants/Tires, Thanks! (Nick Scholtes)
22. 03:06 PM - Re: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor (flier)
23. 03:12 PM - Re: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor (flier)
24. 04:17 PM - Re leaving flying (Rex Shaw)
25. 05:35 PM - Re: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor (JOHN May)
26. 06:54 PM - Re: Re: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor (Noel Loveys)
27. 07:22 PM - Re: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor (Noel Loveys)
28. 07:27 PM - Re: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor (Noel Loveys)
29. 10:28 PM - Re: Good bye for a while. (ron schick)
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Subject: | Re: Good bye for a while. |
>...I have unfortunately come to a cross roads in my flying and have
>after much thought decided to sell my fox. I have been unable to
>come to terms with the crash or for that matter get back into my
>comfort zone.
Graeme,
I, too, hope you will reconsider. I can't believe how long it has
taken to get myself back in order after my accident. It has been
over two years now and I still feel the emotional and physical
effects every day.
That said, the support of family, friends, and many wonderful members
of this list has been overwhelming. I have gradually turned my
despair into hope and have gathered the resolve to build another
'fox. Although I have faced some apprehension, I am back in the left
seat and find that my passion for flying has not waned.
During my convalescence I worked on a short film documenting the
first flight of my Kitfox and the 11 years of construction that led
up to it. While putting together the soundtrack for the movie I
found what I have adopted as my personal theme song. It's called
"Faith of the Heart" by Diane Warren and includes some words that
I've found very inspirational. Here are a few of them:
It's been a long road
Getting from there to here
It's been a long time
But my time is finally near
And I can feel a change in the wind right now
:
It's been a long night
Trying to find my way
Through the darkness
Now I finally have my day
But I will see my dream come alive at last
I will touch the sky
:
I've known a wind so cold
And seen the darkest days
But now the winds I feel
Are only winds of change
I've been through the fire
I've been through the rains
But I've been fine
:
I've got faith of the heart
Going where my heart will take me
I've got faith to believe
I can do anything
I've got strength of the soul
No one's gonna bend or break me
I can reach any star
I've got faith
Faith of the heart
I hope you can rise above the demons and find your inspiration once again.
Mike G.
N728KF
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Subject: | Re: Good bye for a while. |
> From: Michael Gibbs [MichaelGibbs@cox.net]
> I, too, hope you will reconsider.
I too wish you reconsider, Graeme. However I can only tell you what I have always
told my dearest son: Don't ever listen to anyone else than the little voice
inside you! Because that will be your companion for the rest of your life.
As many, I admire Mike for not giving up after his accident. But I would admire
you just as much for doing that you feel is right.
Then someone said: Only fools never change their mind. You know you will always
be welcomed on this list, as an active participant or a silent listener. Maybe
one day a rookie will need your good advice.
Best regards,
Michel
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Subject: | Re: CO2 in Cockpit |
Just a small correction here. Isn't it supposed to be CO (carbon
monoxide)? I think CO2 is carbon dioxide.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: Rex Shaw
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:00 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: CO2 in Cockpit
Just wanted to get an idea from the 582 flyers how many have a fully
closed cowling in front?
I have the "Radial" look with a monster opening in the front. I have
struggled with exhaust fumes getting into the cockpit. I have limited
the airflow a bit but am considering closing off all the front of
cowling except around the prop shaft. I have read that the input
pressure in the engine compartment may be too much with only a little
outlet at the bottom and no where for fumes to go. C02 detector used
to
get pretty high
Hi ! Jareds,
Rex here from Australia. I have a MKIV with
cowling like yours and a 582. Occasionally I have noticed fumes on climb
out only. I put in a cheap detector after flying with a friend that has
a notorious nose for CO2. In fact he is our club flying instructor and
most highly respect him. Anyway after putting in this cheap detector
about six months ago I haven't noticed any fumes. it seems to have
scared them off. Also despite looking a few times I've not seen any
change in colour on the detector either. I've always cosidered the fumes
momentary and insignificant but my friend did make me a little nervous
and so I put in the detector to check. I have Grove gear and so no
holes there and as I say have only rarely noticed fumes on climb out
only.
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Subject: | Good bye for a while. |
Graeme, I'm very sorry to hear about your decision, but I understand how
you feel. I'm sure that anyone who has experienced what you have -- and
survived -- tends to look at the rest of their life in a different
light. I haven't experienced it myself so I can't say how I'd react to
it, but I may not be any different. Perhaps it would be better to just
fold it up and park the airplane somewhere safe for awhile then just
move on with your life. Later, only you'll know when, you can reassess
how you feel about it then make a firm decision. Whatever you decide I
wish you the best and when you check in here occasionally, don't forget
to say hello and let us know how things are going down under.
Best of luck to you,
Deke Morisse
List Admin
----- Original Message -----
From: QSS
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:41 PM
Subject: X-IMail-SPAM-Premium Kitfox-List: Good bye for a while.
Hi Guys, I have unfortunately come to a cross roads in my flying and
have after much thought decided to sell my fox. I have been unable to
come to terms with the crash or for that matter get back into my comfort
zone. I have always had a passion for flying and to own my own aircraft
has been a dream come true but the enjoyment has now been replaced by
negative thoughts and an idle aircraft. The pity is that I know Im a
good pilot and that the rebuild has resulted in a strong and reliable
aircraft. Its just the demon on my shoulder wont allow me to accept it.
I will miss the friendly banter and good natured shots across the bow
that have resulted from the many topics discussed and encourage you all
to continue in this manner. The list administrators should be proud of
their flock and the respect shown for each others opinions. Thanks Deke,
your a good bloke and even handed moderator. Thanks you also Mat for
your tireless work and for providing a resource that allows us all to
tell lies about our flying prowess and our beautiful birds. To all who
help with encouragement and parts during my rebuild, my sincere thanks
because without you my fox would still be sitting in the back paddock. I
will drop in from time to time to see whats being discussed and possibly
just to say hi. I never thought I would say it but, "Mat, please remove
me from the list".
Cheers to all
Graeme
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Subject: | Re: CO2 in Cockpit |
While it may simply be symantics, we need to clarify a couple of things. Fi
rst off, it is CO that is the silent killer. Secondly as we are all aware o
f, it is colorless and odorless. Just because you can smell the incomplete
combustion in the cockpit, doesn't necessarily mean there is a CO problem.
It is however an annoyance that no one wants to fly with. You have made a w
ise choice in installing a CO detector. No one should leave the ground with
out one.=0A=0AGary =0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Rex Shaw <
rexjan@bigpond.com>=0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, Febr
uary 28, 2007 1:00:10 PM=0ASubject: Kitfox-List: CO2 in Cockpit=0A=0A=0AJus
t wanted to get an idea from the 582 flyers how many have a fully =0Aclosed
cowling in front?=0AI have the "Radial" look with a monster opening in the
front. I have =0Astruggled with exhaust fumes getting into the cockpit.
I have limited =0Athe airflow a bit but am considering closing off all the
front of =0Acowling except around the prop shaft. I have read that the inp
ut =0Apressure in the engine compartment may be too much with only a little
=0Aoutlet at the bottom and no where for fumes to go. C02 detector used t
o =0Aget pretty high =0A =0AHi ! Jareds,=0A Rex here f
rom Australia. I have a MKIV with cowling like yours and a 582. Occasionall
y I have noticed fumes on climb out only. I put in a cheap detector after f
lying with a friend that has a notorious nose for CO2. In fact he is our cl
ub flying instructor and most highly respect him. Anyway after putting in t
his cheap detector about six months ago I haven't noticed any fumes. it see
ms to have scared them off. Also despite looking a few times I've not seen
any change in colour on the detector either. I've always cosidered the fume
s momentary and insignificant but my friend did make me a little nervous an
d so I put in the detector to check. I have Grove gear and so no holes the
re and as I say have only rarely noticed fumes on climb out only.=0A=0A=0A_
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Subject: | Re: Good bye for a while. |
Graeme,
Let me join in with the others and ask that you reconsider your decision.
Your insights and discussions have proven to be very valuable and who knows
how many pilots are around today because you have them thinking rather than
reacting. I can understand the reluctance to get into the machine, that's
normal human nature. While you might feel your doing the right thing, consider
down the road how your passion for flying and love of building will continue to
haunt you. I had to stop flying airliners last October (age 60 rule), and
that's all I ever wanted to, Now, every time I look up and see an airliner,
well, I wish it were me flying it. On the flip side, believe me, when I say I
wish I had a dime for every time I scared, the you know what out of me, in my
flying career.
Before you make the final decision, I would invite you to read the book
"Riding Rockets" by astronaut Mike Mullane. He takes you with him in his quest
to be an astronaut and you get to enjoy every thrill and feel every fear he
had each time he got on aboard the Space Shuttle. He is no different than the
rest of us. If any one claims to have never been fearful of the machine,
they're lying.
Respect for the aircraft, respect for the environment we fly in, and knowing
what we do is not an every day routine walk in the garden. That's what
makes for a safe pilot.
Please, stop, think and reconsider. Aviation needs more people like you!
Rick Weiss
Series V Speedster - N39RW
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PS - If you think it would help, why not hire a competent instructor to fly
right seat and take you through the equivalent of a commercial (or private)
check ride. It would be a good confidence builder!
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Subject: | Re: Rotax service |
Brent,
I would highly recommend Lockwood Aviation in Sebring Florida. While I
haven't sent them my engine for work, yet, I have taken their 912 maintenance
course. (which I recommend without reservation) I also have talked with their
mechanics and watched as they worked on customers engines. They are a first
class operation, they know the Rotax, and they know homebuilders, and will
work with you.
Rick Weiss
Series V Speedster - N39RW
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Subject: | RE: CO2 in Cockpit |
> From: GAry Olson [n113gb@yahoo.com]
> Just because you can smell the incomplete combustion in the cockpit
Incomplete combustion is the correct word, Gary. Because CO2 is as colourless and
odorless as CO. Otherwise our breath would smell like an exhaust pipe! :-)
... well, at least, to other humans, because mosquitoes can detect our CO2 release.
So, next time one of those little bugger is bothering your, hold your breath
to see which one of the two will faint first! :-)
> installing a CO detector. No one should leave the ground without one.
Never leave without mine, Sir!
Cheers,
Michel
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Subject: | wanted to purchase Kitfox Tri-gear |
Hello all,....I am very interested in purchasing a Tri-gear Kitfox, all ready
flying, like or as a Vixen, ready to pay cash, must be in excellent shape,
need hours on airframe, engine and must be a 100 hp Rotax, ...price and all
details, ...anyone knowing of one pls advise, call 605 745 4449 or reply
flyingt@gwtc.net....thks Dean Tinaglia
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Subject: | Re: Rotax service |
I had an interesting experience yesterday looking an Ignition Coil Bracket
Assembly for the 912. I called one service center and was forwarded
elsewhere to see of another center had one, I was completing the address
part and there was an Oops as my zip code was not in their service area.
Then it was past Eastern Standard closing time so went on line. I was first
asked to type in my Zip code to see if they were authorized to help me.
It would seem that using a preferred service center might be a bit
problematic at times due to the franchise agreements between the service
centers and Rotax. Anyway I tried.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: <Mdkitfox@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax service
> Brent,
>
> I would highly recommend Lockwood Aviation in Sebring Florida. While I
> haven't sent them my engine for work, yet, I have taken their 912
> maintenance
> course. (which I recommend without reservation) I also have talked with
> their
> mechanics and watched as they worked on customers engines. They are a
> first
> class operation, they know the Rotax, and they know homebuilders, and
> will
> work with you.
>
> Rick Weiss
> Series V Speedster - N39RW
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Subject: | Re: Rotax service |
Similar to my experience in buying a Jabiru engine...I was told by
the Florida dealer that I'd have to buy my engine from the Tennessee
dealer, because I live in Michigan....regional restrictions as to
where they could sell.
Lynn
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On Feb 28, 2007, at 10:51 AM, Lowell Fitt wrote:
>
> It would seem that using a preferred service center might be a bit
> problematic at times due to the franchise agreements between the
> service centers and Rotax. Anyway I tried.
>
> Lowell
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Subject: | Re: Rotax service |
I also sent them my 912 for updates and some additional work and I was very
pleased with the quality of there work and the price they charged me.
Ken Schooley
>From: Mdkitfox@aol.com
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax service
>Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:44:04 EST
>
>Brent,
>
>I would highly recommend Lockwood Aviation in Sebring Florida. While I
>haven't sent them my engine for work, yet, I have taken their 912
>maintenance
>course. (which I recommend without reservation) I also have talked with
>their
>mechanics and watched as they worked on customers engines. They are a
>first
>class operation, they know the Rotax, and they know homebuilders, and will
>work with you.
>
>Rick Weiss
>Series V Speedster - N39RW
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Subject: | Re: RE: CO2 in Cockpit |
Michel,
I didn't know lutefisk and lefse could make your breath smell like that! If I remember
correctly from my physiology days, CO attaches to the red blood cells
something on the order of 200 times quicker than oxygen thereby suffocating the
cells thru hypoxia internally. In a higher concentration, CO2 will also kill
based external hypoxia (lowered atmospheric oxygen level). Just a thought. By
the way, I could never get past the smell to dive into a plate of lutefisk. The
lefse on the other hand is A-OK. Bring on the mosquitos!!
Gary
----- Original Message ----
From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:07:06 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: CO2 in Cockpit
> From: GAry Olson [n113gb@yahoo.com]
> Just because you can smell the incomplete combustion in the cockpit
Incomplete combustion is the correct word, Gary. Because CO2 is as colourless and
odorless as CO. Otherwise our breath would smell like an exhaust pipe! :-)
... well, at least, to other humans, because mosquitoes can detect our CO2 release.
So, next time one of those little bugger is bothering your, hold your breath
to see which one of the two will faint first! :-)
> installing a CO detector. No one should leave the ground without one.
Never leave without mine, Sir!
Cheers,
Michel
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Subject: | Re: wanted to purchase Kitfox Tri-gear |
Hello
May have just what you need. Tried to send you info direct, but was
unable to for some reason.
My direct email is jimmieblackwell@austin.rr.com or you are welcome to
call me at 512 695-6627.
Jimmie
----- Original Message -----
From: Ann7d@wmconnect.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: wanted to purchase Kitfox Tri-gear
> Hello all,....I am very interested in purchasing a Tri-gear
> Kitfox, all ready
> flying, like or as a Vixen, ready to pay cash, must be in
> excellent shape,
> need hours on airframe, engine and must be a 100 hp Rotax,
> ...price and all
> details, ...anyone knowing of one pls advise, call 605 745 4449 or
> reply
> flyingt@gwtc.net....thks Dean Tinaglia
>
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Subject: | NSI A30 propeeler transmission for sale |
Hi group,
I have a "new" A30 unit purchased from Maxwell Propulsion. I paid $1000 for it
and just bought it to have a spare. They said it had been installed on a kit
plane but not used before it was replaced with the new A40 unit. If you would
like to have a spare prop drive I will consider any offers. I sold my Kitfox
5 a week ago and have no use for it. Also I have a few various spare parts for
the NSI engine and CAP 140 prop system. Email me with your needs.
Bob Holliday
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Subject: | 912 ULS Noise Capacitor |
Last weekend when running my engine to check static RPM before first
flight my noise capacitor blew. The engine has run several hours with no
problems. I was told by one "airport bum" it was undersized (came from
Skystar- 25 V). He indicated I needed at least 50V. I have looked on Bob
Nuckols site and there is mention of this happening quite often. Seem
with the permanent magnet generator and small motorcycle battery that
comes with the fire wall forward kit there is a problem. Don't understand
all the electronics. But something about over volt surge. I can't find a
source for the capacitor much less a larger one. Also don't want to just
replace it until I understand what's happening. Any help would be
appreciated.
David Estapa
Woodstock, GA
S5TD N97DE
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Subject: | Re: RE: CO2 in Cockpit |
I feel I should put in my two cents worth. I put 4 people, including
myself, in the hospital from carbon monoxide poisoning years ago in Chico,
California. I experienced condensate on the windshield on takeoff and
opened the defrost vent, left it open until we realized something was wrong
and altogether flew 2 hours before landing in Chico. It turned out the
muffler had a large split and dumped a lot of the exhaust into the cabin.
We were flying at 9500 feet with icing clouds above and mountains below and
not a clear idea of were we were going to set it down.
If you fly with an exhaust system heater and have a closed cabin, get one of
the electronic CO sensors that will warn you audibly when CO is detected.
The heater in my Kitfox works from hot water and the ventilation makes it
practically useless.
Barry West
----- Original Message -----
From: "GAry Olson" <n113gb@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RE: CO2 in Cockpit
>
> Michel,
> I didn't know lutefisk and lefse could make your breath smell like that!
> If I remember correctly from my physiology days, CO attaches to the red
> blood cells something on the order of 200 times quicker than oxygen
> thereby suffocating the cells thru hypoxia internally. In a higher
> concentration, CO2 will also kill based external hypoxia (lowered
> atmospheric oxygen level). Just a thought. By the way, I could never get
> past the smell to dive into a plate of lutefisk. The lefse on the other
> hand is A-OK. Bring on the mosquitos!!
>
> Gary
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 9:07:06 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: CO2 in Cockpit
>
>
>> From: GAry Olson [n113gb@yahoo.com]
>> Just because you can smell the incomplete combustion in the cockpit
>
> Incomplete combustion is the correct word, Gary. Because CO2 is as
> colourless and odorless as CO. Otherwise our breath would smell like an
> exhaust pipe! :-)
> ... well, at least, to other humans, because mosquitoes can detect our CO2
> release. So, next time one of those little bugger is bothering your, hold
> your breath to see which one of the two will faint first! :-)
>
>> installing a CO detector. No one should leave the ground without one.
>
> Never leave without mine, Sir!
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
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Subject: | Re: Kitfox ferry flight to Alaska |
Mountain flying tips:
Learn to map read well
Learn about local weather patterns along the way (talk to people at the
airports you land at)
Learn to use the FSS and Canadian equivalent along the way for updates and
pilot reports.
If you do not know the territory, do not be tempted to do "scud running" or
"contour flying" in questionable weather.
Give yourself plenty of daylight--shouldn't be a problem in summer, but
fatigue can become a significant factor with long flying hours.
Read up on the effect of wind currents in mountainous terrain from ground
school publications.
Go out and practice in windy conditions and learn to read the effects of
wind in real conditions--learning to spot potention down drafts. There is no
substitute for practice and it is nice to fly with someone who has
experience as you are exposing yourself to the elements.
Practice flying in the rain. We have a saying in Alaska, "if you don't like
the weather at the moment, wait for a couple hours and it will change." My
point here is that weather can change rapidly and it is especially difficult
in unfamiliar mountainous terrain to handle rain/snow if you are not used to
them. Depending where you are flying in Alaska, it can snow at any time of
the year. On the other hand, be prepared to camp out (at least to stay dry)
if the weather turns bad until it turns good again and you can comfortably
fly.
Give yourself time. Every year we would loose pilots in the Brooks Range
from the condition of "get-home-itis". Some the them where experienced
pilot/guides who let their clients put too much pressure on them to "get
home". BEWARE1
Finally, learn to pray!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 6:24 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox ferry flight to Alaska
>
>
> dcsfoto wrote:
>> like to get info on mountain flying
>
>
> Here's some mountain flying info
> http://www.canyonflying.com/
>
> Tom Jones
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97534#97534
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Subject: | Re: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor |
Dave I installed one of those noise capacitors from Skystar in my plane and it
blew up with a loud bang because I had the polarity reversed. The plus and minus
symbols were so large and so many that I didn't notice them so figured polarity
didn't matter. I eventually traced the radio noise to spark plugs and plug
caps and did not install another capacitor.
Tom Jones
davestapa(at)juno.com wrote:
> Last weekend when running my engine to check static RPM before first
> flight my noise capacitor blew. The engine has run several hours with no
> problems. I was told by one "airport bum" it was undersized (came from
> Skystar- 25 V). He indicated I needed at least 50V. I have looked on Bob
> Nuckols site and there is mention of this happening quite often. Seem
> with the permanent magnet generator and small motorcycle battery that
> comes with the fire wall forward kit there is a problem. Don't understand
> all the electronics. But something about over volt surge. I can't find a
> source for the capacitor much less a larger one. Also don't want to just
> replace it until I understand what's happening. Any help would be
> appreciated.
>
> David Estapa
> Woodstock, GA
> S5TD N97DE
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97972#97972
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Subject: | Re: RE: CO2 in Cockpit |
On Feb 28, 2007, at 6:32 PM, GAry Olson wrote:
> By the way, I could never get past the smell to dive into a plate of
> lutefisk.
Nor can I, Gary. I guess you had to try it just to prove your
Scandinavian descent. It's silly because fresh cod is just as Norwegian
and it is delicious.
To the benefit of the list: lutefisk is cod marinated in caustic soda.
It then turns into a jelly-like, tasteless substance. Now, why would
anyone come with such a silly idea? Apparently in the 17th or 18th
century, the Norwegian town of Bergen burnt down and a lot of stock
fish (dried and salted cod) was found in the ruins of the warehouses on
the docks. Fish, plus ashes, plus water, makes a very alkaline
combination similar to caustic soda. The poor people of the town found
that, after proper rinsing in fresh water, it was still eatable and a
new tradition was born.
Today, lutefisk is seeing a renaissance mostly among men's club when
they gather in the weeks preceding Christmas, to eat that disgusting
dish with a lot of beer and aquavit, our local snaps. I believe that if
you drink enough ... you can eat just anything! :-)
Cheers,
Michel
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Subject: | Wheelpants/Tires, Thanks! |
Rex and Lynn,
Thanks very much for the input on tires (or tyres, I guess is more
proper!) and wheel pants! Armed with this info, I'm ready to tackle
mounting the pants. I think........
Best,
Nick
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>Hi ! Nick,
> Rex here from Australia. I have a MKIV with Grove
>gear. I have Douglas 8" steel rims. I think some have Aluminium. The
>tyres originally on mine were buffed down 2 ply ATV tyres. In my
>opinion these are a total disaster.
>
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Subject: | Re: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor |
Check Digi-Key at digikey.com. 50V simply gives
plenty of margin for a large spike.
--- Original Message ---
From: David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor
<davestapa@juno.com>
>
>Last weekend when running my engine to check static
RPM before first
>flight my noise capacitor blew. The engine has run
several hours with no
>problems. I was told by one "airport bum" it was
undersized (came from
>Skystar- 25 V). He indicated I needed at least 50V.
I have looked on Bob
>Nuckols site and there is mention of this happening
quite often. Seem
>with the permanent magnet generator and small
motorcycle battery that
>comes with the fire wall forward kit there is a
problem. Don't understand
>all the electronics. But something about over volt
surge. I can't find a
>source for the capacitor much less a larger one.
Also don't want to just
>replace it until I understand what's happening. Any
help would be
>appreciated.
>
>David Estapa
>Woodstock, GA
>S5TD N97DE
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Subject: | Re: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor |
BTW, that's a 22000uF electrolytic can. 25V should
be plenty but a 50V won't hurt. Digi-Key has
Panasonic manufactured for ~ $11.
--- Original Message ---
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Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor
>Check Digi-Key at digikey.com. 50V simply gives
>plenty of margin for a large spike.
>
>--- Original Message ---
>From: David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor
>
><davestapa@juno.com>
>>
>>Last weekend when running my engine to check static
>RPM before first
>>flight my noise capacitor blew. The engine has run
>several hours with no
>>problems. I was told by one "airport bum" it was
>undersized (came from
>>Skystar- 25 V). He indicated I needed at least 50V.
>I have looked on Bob
>>Nuckols site and there is mention of this happening
>quite often. Seem
>>with the permanent magnet generator and small
>motorcycle battery that
>>comes with the fire wall forward kit there is a
>problem. Don't understand
>>all the electronics. But something about over volt
>surge. I can't find a
>>source for the capacitor much less a larger one.
>Also don't want to just
>>replace it until I understand what's happening. Any
>help would be
>>appreciated.
>>
>>David Estapa
>>Woodstock, GA
>>S5TD N97DE
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Subject: | Re leaving flying |
Hi ! Graeme,
I am very sad to see you are about to give up
flying after all the effort to get your plane rebuilt. Do you remember
a few years ago coming down here to Sth Aust and flying my MKIV when I
think you were just getting your MKI going ? Well I was so impressed
with your pilot abilitty that I know you are a good pilot. Yes you can
be good and still get a bad problem and obviously that is what worries
you. I understand that and if that is telling you to get out you are the
one that must decide. However I have spent all my life conflicting
danger to some degree and I'd say you get used to it to a fair degree.
The thing is to always respect it though.
When I was racing my 5 Litre Hydroplane there was a couple of
incidents that made me think a bit like you are thinking now but somehow
I continued racing and in the end it was not that aspect that made me
give it up. It was lack of money after I lost the head off a valve at
6,500 RPM on the turn. This made a huge mess of my motor and I could not
afford to rebuild it. At that time however although the incidents were
always in the back of my mind when racing rather than scaring me they
just served as a warning to keep out of that situation. In other words
it really made me a safer racer. Whether or not you can continue to fly
and get to that stage is an individual thing but I would urge you to not
let your plane go too quickly because then it will be very hard to come
back. I wish there was someway I could help you.
To be fair I must admit when I gave up racing Karts it probably beat
me. I was 58 at the time and racing in the fastest, heaviest and most
powerful class and on dirt tracks. We were getting 16 year old kids
coming into the class doing silly things and I thought I saw the writing
on the wall that something could happen and I figured at 58 perhaps I
should give it away. I was too old for bad prangs I thought. Maybe you
will consider all this and decide it is your time to give up flying. If
so I respect that but as I said I will be very sad to see you go and I
do urge you to not make that decision too quickly because as I said it
will be hard to come back. I do believe you can work through this if you
really want to. It would be unreasonable not to expect some mental
scaring from your accident. However instead of letting that destroy your
passion for flying why not make it make you a better pilot.
I hope we still run into each other if you do give it away and I hope
you find something to replace your flying passion. If your plane is up
for sale let me know your best price as I have a friend that I know
would love it but finances might be tight.
Anyway I have enjoyed knowing you thus far and I hope to see you
around a bit yet,
Goodluck,
Rex.
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Subject: | Re: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor |
Last weekend when running my engine to check static RPM before first
flight my noise capacitor blew. The engine has run several hours with no
problems.
Dave,
My capacitor blew during my wifes first flight in my fox. She already did not
like the idea of me buying a plane with fabric covered wings but agreed to go
on her first flight with me. We took off and then is when the smoke came billowing
up from between her legs. Not knowing what was going to happen next lets
just say I got us down fast. Mine had run for 500 hours before it failed. I
purchased an identical replacement on line from Newark Electronics under the catagory
"Computer grade Capacitors" (CGS203U025V3C) .They have dozens of various
ones to choose from. Mine cost $30 including shipping and is still Ok after
200 more hours.
John May Kalamazoo, Michigan
Model IV-1200 Speedster
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Subject: | Re: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor |
The Caps are a good idea just don't hook them up in reverse polarity. The +
to the plus the - to ground. When I studied electronics we had one young
fellow who loved to "fire off" Lytic Caps. It got so bad that he almost
destroyed a classroom. My bad I was the idiot who told him what happens if
you hook up Lytics in reverse.
Not to be out done one other guy used to take great, warped pleasure out of
placing charged caps in the urinal of public washrooms. Do not under any
circumstances ever do this!
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 5:18 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor
>
>
>
> Dave I installed one of those noise capacitors from Skystar
> in my plane and it blew up with a loud bang because I had the
> polarity reversed. The plus and minus symbols were so large
> and so many that I didn't notice them so figured polarity
> didn't matter. I eventually traced the radio noise to spark
> plugs and plug caps and did not install another capacitor.
> Tom Jones
>
>
> davestapa(at)juno.com wrote:
> > Last weekend when running my engine to check static RPM before first
> > flight my noise capacitor blew. The engine has run several
> hours with no
> > problems. I was told by one "airport bum" it was undersized
> (came from
> > Skystar- 25 V). He indicated I needed at least 50V. I have
> looked on Bob
> > Nuckols site and there is mention of this happening quite
> often. Seem
> > with the permanent magnet generator and small motorcycle
> battery that
> > comes with the fire wall forward kit there is a problem.
> Don't understand
> > all the electronics. But something about over volt surge. I
> can't find a
> > source for the capacitor much less a larger one. Also don't
> want to just
> > replace it until I understand what's happening. Any help would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > David Estapa
> > Woodstock, GA
> > S5TD N97DE
>
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97972#97972
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | 912 ULS Noise Capacitor |
The cap should be installed on the rectified 12 V current. A 50V cap would
be reasonable. Just make sure there isn't any slight reverse voltage
entering the capacitor. Even small reverse voltage spikes will destroy a
lytic in time.
Lytic is short for electrolytic. These are the fluid filled capacitors that
are polarity sensitive.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> David Estapa
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 4:37 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor
>
>
>
> Last weekend when running my engine to check static RPM before first
> flight my noise capacitor blew. The engine has run several
> hours with no
> problems. I was told by one "airport bum" it was undersized (came from
> Skystar- 25 V). He indicated I needed at least 50V. I have
> looked on Bob
> Nuckols site and there is mention of this happening quite often. Seem
> with the permanent magnet generator and small motorcycle battery that
> comes with the fire wall forward kit there is a problem.
> Don't understand
> all the electronics. But something about over volt surge. I
> can't find a
> source for the capacitor much less a larger one. Also don't
> want to just
> replace it until I understand what's happening. Any help would be
> appreciated.
>
> David Estapa
> Woodstock, GA
> S5TD N97DE
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | 912 ULS Noise Capacitor |
22,000uF.... Make sure you short out the terminals of that capacitor with a
well insulated device like an old screwdriver (don't use a new one) before
trying to connect that capacitor into your plane. 22,000uF is more than
enough to give you a most unpleasant shock... Not to mention a small burn.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flier
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:42 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com; kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor
>
>
>
> BTW, that's a 22000uF electrolytic can. 25V should
> be plenty but a 50V won't hurt. Digi-Key has
> Panasonic manufactured for ~ $11.
>
>
> --- Original Message ---
> From: "flier" <FLIER@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>, <kitfox-
> list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor
>
> >Check Digi-Key at digikey.com. 50V simply gives
> >plenty of margin for a large spike.
> >
> >--- Original Message ---
> >From: David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com>
> >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 ULS Noise Capacitor
> >
> ><davestapa@juno.com>
> >>
> >>Last weekend when running my engine to check static
> >RPM before first
> >>flight my noise capacitor blew. The engine has run
> >several hours with no
> >>problems. I was told by one "airport bum" it was
> >undersized (came from
> >>Skystar- 25 V). He indicated I needed at least 50V.
> >I have looked on Bob
> >>Nuckols site and there is mention of this happening
> >quite often. Seem
> >>with the permanent magnet generator and small
> >motorcycle battery that
> >>comes with the fire wall forward kit there is a
> >problem. Don't understand
> >>all the electronics. But something about over volt
> >surge. I can't find a
> >>source for the capacitor much less a larger one.
> >Also don't want to just
> >>replace it until I understand what's happening. Any
> >help would be
> >>appreciated.
> >>
> >>David Estapa
> >>Woodstock, GA
> >>S5TD N97DE
> >>
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Subject: | Good bye for a while. |
Graeme I too lost my edge with the loss of my friend and neighbor this year.
Even now I need music in the cockpit if not company to help relax. It is
slowly getting better and I hope you find the same. Check in from time to
time and say high as I'm sure you are a valued friend to us all.
Ron NB Ore
>From: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Good bye for a while.
>Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:41:37 +1000
>
>
>Graeme
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