Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Wed 03/14/07


Total Messages Posted: 26



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     1. 12:23 AM - Re: condensation (Michael Gibbs)
     2. 12:50 AM - Re: Good bye for a while. (QSS)
     3. 04:05 AM - Good bye for a while. (fox5flyer)
     4. 04:16 AM - Re: Good bye for a while. (D. Fisher)
     5. 04:26 AM - Re: condensation (D. Fisher)
     6. 07:06 AM - Re: Good bye for a while. (kitfoxmike)
     7. 07:08 AM - Re: Removing wing tanks from wing (Tim Vader)
     8. 07:13 AM - Re: Re: Good bye for a while. (D. Fisher)
     9. 07:38 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox fuel tanks (Jerry)
    10. 07:42 AM - Re: condensation (Lowell Fitt)
    11. 08:44 AM - Re: condensation (D. Fisher)
    12. 09:19 AM - Re: Removing wing tanks from wing (Rexinator)
    13. 09:35 AM - Re: condensation (84KF)
    14. 09:55 AM - Re: Kitfox fuel tanks (84KF)
    15. 10:32 AM - I'm Back on the list (Hays Jeff)
    16. 11:27 AM - Re: I'm Back on the list (RAY Gignac)
    17. 11:49 AM - Re: I'm Back on the list (84KF)
    18. 12:13 PM - Re: Re: condensation (Michel Verheughe)
    19. 02:41 PM - Matco parts. (QSS)
    20. 03:30 PM - Matco parts (QSS)
    21. 04:41 PM - Re: Matco parts (fox5flyer)
    22. 07:29 PM - First Flight (David Estapa)
    23. 08:15 PM - Re: First Flight (john perry)
    24. 08:19 PM - Re: First Flight (dcsfoto)
    25. 08:43 PM - Re: I'm Back on the list (dcsfoto)
    26. 09:27 PM - Re: contact info for KItfox inc (Larry/Cathy Boone)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:23:23 AM PST US
    From: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: condensation
    Mike sez: >Are there any tricks to reduce the condensation that forms on the >airplane from time to time? Sure, move to Arizona! :-) Mike G. N728KF Do not archive.


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    Time: 12:50:49 AM PST US
    From: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
    Subject: Re: Good bye for a while.
    G'day Deke, thanks for the support with my reluctant decision to sell the fox. The response from so many foxers was totally unexpected but certainly in keeping with this great bunch of blokes. I have decided to take your suggestion and fold her up for a while as I consider wether Im completely nuts or just a bit of a wooze (Australian for Drama Queen). In the mean time Im going to do bits a pieces to her to keep her in flying condition. One of those jobs will be to take the Matco master brake cylinders apart as they are starting to weep a little. A problem I have however is that because we are on the bottom of the world, no one has ever heard of Matco. As such would it be possible for you to do me big favour and locate the overhaul kit for the master cylinders if I discover there needed when I pull them apart. I know you are in the bush some where and may not be in a position to help but maybe you know someone who can. Im only pre-empting an overhaul at this stage and would give you the correct info for whats needed. Hows the snow situation. Are you still digging yourself out or has the house disappeared forever. I sometimes watch CNN and on the weather the other night they said storms were creating problems across a wide area of the Mid USA.and I thought of you at the time. No, Im not going to rub it in and tell you what the temp here is because that would be cruel and not in the spirit of friendship so I'll just say Its time to get up and put the air-conditioned on and get a cold beer. Cheers for now. Graeme Toft Ph: 07 49397011 Mob: 0411476527 ----- Original Message ----- From: fox5flyer To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:41 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Good bye for a while. Graeme, I'm very sorry to hear about your decision, but I understand how you feel. I'm sure that anyone who has experienced what you have -- and survived -- tends to look at the rest of their life in a different light. I haven't experienced it myself so I can't say how I'd react to it, but I may not be any different. Perhaps it would be better to just fold it up and park the airplane somewhere safe for awhile then just move on with your life. Later, only you'll know when, you can reassess how you feel about it then make a firm decision. Whatever you decide I wish you the best and when you check in here occasionally, don't forget to say hello and let us know how things are going down under. Best of luck to you, Deke Morisse List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: QSS To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:41 PM Subject: X-IMail-SPAM-Premium Kitfox-List: Good bye for a while. Hi Guys, I have unfortunately come to a cross roads in my flying and have after much thought decided to sell my fox. I have been unable to come to terms with the crash or for that matter get back into my comfort zone. I have always had a passion for flying and to own my own aircraft has been a dream come true but the enjoyment has now been replaced by negative thoughts and an idle aircraft. The pity is that I know Im a good pilot and that the rebuild has resulted in a strong and reliable aircraft. Its just the demon on my shoulder wont allow me to accept it. I will miss the friendly banter and good natured shots across the bow that have resulted from the many topics discussed and encourage you all to continue in this manner. The list administrators should be proud of their flock and the respect shown for each others opinions. Thanks Deke, your a good bloke and even handed moderator. Thanks you also Mat for your tireless work and for providing a resource that allows us all to tell lies about our flying prowess and our beautiful birds. To all who help with encouragement and parts during my rebuild, my sincere thanks because without you my fox would still be sitting in the back paddock. I will drop in from time to time to see whats being discussed and possibly just to say hi. I never thought I would say it but, "Mat, please remove me from the list". Cheers to all Graeme href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 21/02/2007 3:19 PM


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    Time: 04:05:57 AM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Good bye for a while.
    G'day Graeme. You're welcome and I'm glad you've reconsidered your decision. At the very least give it some time. As for Matco, you're right, I'm also in the bush in northeast Michigan and might as well be on the other side of the world, but I'll help where I can. As I recall, Matco has been good to deal with and are responsive to their customers. I believe there are several models of their brakes so getting the correct information will be vital in obtaining the correct overhaul kit. Perhaps someone else on the list can provide you with the correct part numbers. Good luck. Deke Below are some links that might help for now. The second one is Matco's site and it's a pretty good one. They also list their contact info. http://aircraftspruce.com/menus/search.php http://www.matcomfg.com/catalog/index.php?file=catalog&prod_pcategory= 66053&clist=0,59990,65496,66053&uid=2192&gpoid ----- Original Message ----- From: QSS To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:03 AM Subject: X-IMail-SPAM-Premium Re: Kitfox-List: Good bye for a while. G'day Deke, thanks for the support with my reluctant decision to sell the fox. The response from so many foxers was totally unexpected but certainly in keeping with this great bunch of blokes. I have decided to take your suggestion and fold her up for a while as I consider wether Im completely nuts or just a bit of a wooze (Australian for Drama Queen). In the mean time Im going to do bits a pieces to her to keep her in flying condition. One of those jobs will be to take the Matco master brake cylinders apart as they are starting to weep a little. A problem I have however is that because we are on the bottom of the world, no one has ever heard of Matco. As such would it be possible for you to do me big favour and locate the overhaul kit for the master cylinders if I discover there needed when I pull them apart. I know you are in the bush some where and may not be in a position to help but maybe you know someone who can. Im only pre-empting an overhaul at this stage and would give you the correct info for whats needed. Hows the snow situation. Are you still digging yourself out or has the house disappeared forever. I sometimes watch CNN and on the weather the other night they said storms were creating problems across a wide area of the Mid USA.and I thought of you at the time. No, Im not going to rub it in and tell you what the temp here is because that would be cruel and not in the spirit of friendship so I'll just say Its time to get up and put the air-conditioned on and get a cold beer. Cheers for now. Graeme Toft Ph: 07 49397011 Mob: 0411476527 ----- Original Message ----- From: fox5flyer To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:41 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Good bye for a while. Graeme, I'm very sorry to hear about your decision, but I understand how you feel. I'm sure that anyone who has experienced what you have -- and survived -- tends to look at the rest of their life in a different light. I haven't experienced it myself so I can't say how I'd react to it, but I may not be any different. Perhaps it would be better to just fold it up and park the airplane somewhere safe for awhile then just move on with your life. Later, only you'll know when, you can reassess how you feel about it then make a firm decision. Whatever you decide I wish you the best and when you check in here occasionally, don't forget to say hello and let us know how things are going down under. Best of luck to you, Deke Morisse List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: QSS To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:41 PM Subject: X-IMail-SPAM-Premium Kitfox-List: Good bye for a while. Hi Guys, I have unfortunately come to a cross roads in my flying and have after much thought decided to sell my fox. I have been unable to come to terms with the crash or for that matter get back into my comfort zone. I have always had a passion for flying and to own my own aircraft has been a dream come true but the enjoyment has now been replaced by negative thoughts and an idle aircraft. The pity is that I know Im a good pilot and that the rebuild has resulted in a strong and reliable aircraft. Its just the demon on my shoulder wont allow me to accept it. I will miss the friendly banter and good natured shots across the bow that have resulted from the many topics discussed and encourage you all to continue in this manner. The list administrators should be proud of their flock and the respect shown for each others opinions. Thanks Deke, your a good bloke and even handed moderator. Thanks you also Mat for your tireless work and for providing a resource that allows us all to tell lies about our flying prowess and our beautiful birds. To all who help with encouragement and parts during my rebuild, my sincere thanks because without you my fox would still be sitting in the back paddock. I will drop in from time to time to see whats being discussed and possibly just to say hi. I never thought I would say it but, "Mat, please remove me from the list". Cheers to all Graeme href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Date: 21/02/2007 3:19 PM


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    Time: 04:16:43 AM PST US
    From: "D. Fisher" <d@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: Good bye for a while.
    Graeme, Contact http://www.matcomfg.com/ , I just got in master kits from them. I think the cost is less than 10$ each and they ship overnight. If i call there i think it is George you need to talk to and he is very well versed in Kitfox and Avids. I usually do over phone but I am sure you could do via email. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: QSS To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:03 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Good bye for a while. G'day Deke, thanks for the support with my reluctant decision to sell the fox. The response from so many foxers was totally unexpected but certainly in keeping with this great bunch of blokes. I have decided to take your suggestion and fold her up for a while as I consider wether Im completely nuts or just a bit of a wooze (Australian for Drama Queen). In the mean time Im going to do bits a pieces to her to keep her in flying condition. One of those jobs will be to take the Matco master brake cylinders apart as they are starting to weep a little. A problem I have however is that because we are on the bottom of the world, no one has ever heard of Matco. As such would it be possible for you to do me big favour and locate the overhaul kit for the master cylinders if I discover there needed when I pull them apart. I know you are in the bush some where and may not be in a position to help but maybe you know someone who can. Im only pre-empting an overhaul at this stage and would give you the correct info for whats needed. Hows the snow situation. Are you still digging yourself out or has the house disappeared forever. I sometimes watch CNN and on the weather the other night they said storms were creating problems across a wide area of the Mid USA.and I thought of you at the time. No, Im not going to rub it in and tell you what the temp here is because that would be cruel and not in the spirit of friendship so I'll just say Its time to get up and put the air-conditioned on and get a cold beer. Cheers for now. Graeme Toft Ph: 07 49397011 Mob: 0411476527 ----- Original Message ----- From: fox5flyer To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:41 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Good bye for a while. Graeme, I'm very sorry to hear about your decision, but I understand how you feel. I'm sure that anyone who has experienced what you have -- and survived -- tends to look at the rest of their life in a different light. I haven't experienced it myself so I can't say how I'd react to it, but I may not be any different. Perhaps it would be better to just fold it up and park the airplane somewhere safe for awhile then just move on with your life. Later, only you'll know when, you can reassess how you feel about it then make a firm decision. Whatever you decide I wish you the best and when you check in here occasionally, don't forget to say hello and let us know how things are going down under. Best of luck to you, Deke Morisse List Admin ----- Original Message ----- From: QSS To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:41 PM Subject: X-IMail-SPAM-Premium Kitfox-List: Good bye for a while. Hi Guys, I have unfortunately come to a cross roads in my flying and have after much thought decided to sell my fox. I have been unable to come to terms with the crash or for that matter get back into my comfort zone. I have always had a passion for flying and to own my own aircraft has been a dream come true but the enjoyment has now been replaced by negative thoughts and an idle aircraft. The pity is that I know Im a good pilot and that the rebuild has resulted in a strong and reliable aircraft. Its just the demon on my shoulder wont allow me to accept it. I will miss the friendly banter and good natured shots across the bow that have resulted from the many topics discussed and encourage you all to continue in this manner. The list administrators should be proud of their flock and the respect shown for each others opinions. Thanks Deke, your a good bloke and even handed moderator. Thanks you also Mat for your tireless work and for providing a resource that allows us all to tell lies about our flying prowess and our beautiful birds. To all who help with encouragement and parts during my rebuild, my sincere thanks because without you my fox would still be sitting in the back paddock. I will drop in from time to time to see whats being discussed and possibly just to say hi. I never thought I would say it but, "Mat, please remove me from the list". Cheers to all Graeme href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Date: 21/02/2007 3:19 PM


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    Time: 04:26:32 AM PST US
    From: "D. Fisher" <d@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: condensation
    Depends on your location alot but an unheated hanger you can do very little to stop this. Even ventilation will help but you got a cold damp floor about 40Fto 50F or so and when air outside become warm and moist it will condensation somewhere. Everything in hangar will be like floor and the moist air will condensate on it. One thing that might help is get the inside insulated with spray foam, we have done that at several buildings and when they not heated they never go below freezing inside even with temps at - 30F outside. The Concrete floor is the key as it keeps the floor at ground temps of 40F or so. Now if is about 2$ a sqare foot here for 3 inch thick and it is R7 per inch and a total vapour barrier. We hae doen our house in it as well about 75% now as we remodel it . After you use this stuff you will wonder why anyone ever uses fiberglas batt insulation. Once foamed you might be able to heat it to keep it dry inside. It is basically just like Dew. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Chaney To: Kitfox (E-mail) Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:23 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: condensation This is sort of off topic but still related. I'm in a new (to me) metal hanger with concrete floor, Are there any tricks to reduce the condensation that forms on the airplane from time to time? I'm sure this isn't good on the plane. Mike


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    Time: 07:06:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Good bye for a while.
    From: "kitfoxmike" <customtrans@qwest.net>
    Watch out on those masters, if you put too much oil in them they will leak out the top. I think about a half inch from the top is recommended. Might want to try that first. Take a piece of wire and remove the vent and stick it in there and determine the level. -------- kitfoxmike model IV, 1200 speedster 912ul Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100455#100455


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    Time: 07:08:48 AM PST US
    From: "Tim Vader" <vadert@telusplanet.net>
    Subject: Re: Removing wing tanks from wing
    I don't know of any chemical that will dissolve the silicone that is used to hold the fuel tanks in place. I unfortunately had to remove both tanks from the wings. What I did was to turn the wing upside down and using an exacto knife I carefully cut out the silicone from the rear spar. Use great caution here so as not to damage the spar. You may be able to use some knotted fishing line to cut the silicone like a band saw once you get enough of a gap between the spar and fuel tank. Remove the silicone that you can from the bottom of the front spar-fuel tank gap. Once the rear spar is loose rotate the tank from the rear spar to tear the remaining silicon from the front spar-tank gap. Then lots of hand work cleaning off the remaining silicone that is stuck to the tank and spars. Tim Vader Classic IV ----- Original Message ----- From: <josandt@verizon.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:18 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Removing wing tanks from wing > > Just wondering if anyone has removed fiberglass wing tanks from completed > wings. Mostly wondering what chemical can dissolve the adhesive used to > hold the tank to the spar (if any) without damaging any of the parts. Can > anyone help here? I need to repair a tank and coat the inside while I've > got it out. I found coatings in the archives. John Sandt (@ beautiful > Death Valley, CA) > > KF Builder / Ser 7 Sport / Corvair 110HP / under construction > > > -- > 7:19 PM > >


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    Time: 07:13:18 AM PST US
    From: "D. Fisher" <d@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: Good bye for a while.
    Another thing too is make sure your calipers are actually sliding . If not your braking will not be right as only the piston side will be working and you will have to pump up the pedal to get it to work. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "kitfoxmike" <customtrans@qwest.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Good bye for a while. > > Watch out on those masters, if you put too much oil in them they will leak > out the top. I think about a half inch from the top is recommended. > Might want to try that first. Take a piece of wire and remove the vent > and stick it in there and determine the level. > > -------- > kitfoxmike > model IV, 1200 > speedster > 912ul > Do not archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100455#100455 > > >


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    Time: 07:38:42 AM PST US
    From: "Jerry" <vcmi@lewiston.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox fuel tanks
    There are a few good ones out there who provide good technical advice on our airplanes, but after 50 years and 12,000 hours of flying (accident free) I really dont need lessons on Airspeed, Altitude, or Fuel management. I just really need the fuel tanks that fit my style of flying Here in the Idaho back country. Priceless is clearing the tree tops at the end of an 800 ft strip in the back country. Too much fuel on board might be the difference between treetops for lunch or fresh trout. ----- Original Message ----- From: "84KF" <stevebenesh@comcast.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:38 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox fuel tanks > > Airspeed..., Take it of leave it. > Altitude..., More is better. --- > > Fuel on a day with a head wind..., Priceless > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100319#100319 > > > -- > 7:19 PM > >


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    Time: 07:42:53 AM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: condensation
    The concrete sealer I used was Radon Shield. I checked my records. No more cold "damp" floor - just cold. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "D. Fisher" <d@cfisher.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:26 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: condensation Depends on your location alot but an unheated hanger you can do very little to stop this. Even ventilation will help but you got a cold damp floor about 40Fto 50F or so and when air outside become warm and moist it will condensation somewhere. Everything in hangar will be like floor and the moist air will condensate on it. One thing that might help is get the inside insulated with spray foam, we have done that at several buildings and when they not heated they never go below freezing inside even with temps at - 30F outside. The Concrete floor is the key as it keeps the floor at ground temps of 40F or so. Now if is about 2$ a sqare foot here for 3 inch thick and it is R7 per inch and a total vapour barrier. We hae doen our house in it as well about 75% now as we remodel it . After you use this stuff you will wonder why anyone ever uses fiberglas batt insulation. Once foamed you might be able to heat it to keep it dry inside. It is basically just like Dew. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Chaney To: Kitfox (E-mail) Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:23 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: condensation This is sort of off topic but still related. I'm in a new (to me) metal hanger with concrete floor, Are there any tricks to reduce the condensation that forms on the airplane from time to time? I'm sure this isn't good on the plane. Mike


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    Time: 08:44:26 AM PST US
    From: "D. Fisher" <d@cfisher.com>
    Subject: Re: condensation
    Lowell , thast might work in your climate but here wher we have temps of -40 t0 + 100F and high humidty I think in spring you would still get it . I think what you will find is that the cold hangar will have th content cold too ,plane tools etc...... and when the warm humidty comes it wil condensate on everything that is cold. It like whe nyou wear your glasses outside ansd come into house adn they fog up . Make sense ? I used something like that a few year ago on a house we added a second story to.......... it was a rubberized type of paint we did the block foundation in and it did the same thing plus added some insualtion value. worked real well on a home that had heating. It was a bout 250 to 300$ for 5 gal pail if i recall . Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:41 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: condensation > > The concrete sealer I used was Radon Shield. I checked my records. No > more cold "damp" floor - just cold. > > Lowell > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D. Fisher" <d@cfisher.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:26 AM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: condensation > > > Depends on your location alot but an unheated hanger you can do very > little to stop this. Even ventilation will help but you got a cold damp > floor about 40Fto 50F or so and when air outside become warm and moist it > will condensation somewhere. Everything in hangar will be like floor and > the moist air will condensate on it. > > One thing that might help is get the inside insulated with spray foam, we > have done that at several buildings and when they not heated they never go > below freezing inside even with temps at - 30F outside. The Concrete > floor is the key as it keeps the floor at ground temps of 40F or so. Now > if is about 2$ a sqare foot here for 3 inch thick and it is R7 per inch > and a total vapour barrier. We hae doen our house in it as well about 75% > now as we remodel it . After you use this stuff you will wonder why > anyone ever uses fiberglas batt insulation. Once foamed you might be able > to heat it to keep it dry inside. > > It is basically just like Dew. > > > Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Chaney > To: Kitfox (E-mail) > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:23 PM > Subject: Kitfox-List: condensation > > > This is sort of off topic but still related. > > I'm in a new (to me) metal hanger with concrete floor, Are there any > tricks to reduce the condensation that forms on the airplane from time to > time? I'm sure this isn't good on the plane. > > Mike > > >


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    Time: 09:19:19 AM PST US
    From: Rexinator <rexinator@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Removing wing tanks from wing
    I had to remove a 13 gal fiberglass wing tank from a KF2 wing and it was held in place with stuff that seemed almost ike rubber cement to me. It was probably silicone adhesive, butt it didn't adhere to surfaces so much that it required any more than rolling it off onto itself. It was easy to remove perhaps because of a corrosive resistant coating on the spars (varnish or polyurethane?). Maybe the builder of my KF had learned of a method to allow for easy removal. You indicate that you may have a more agressive adhesive. Let us know what you find. Rex Colorado josandt@verizon.net wrote: > >Just wondering if anyone has removed fiberglass wing tanks from completed wings. Mostly wondering what chemical can dissolve the adhesive used to hold the tank to the spar (if any) without damaging any of the parts. Can anyone help here? I need to repair a tank and coat the inside while I've got it out. I found coatings in the archives. John Sandt (@ beautiful Death Valley, CA) > >KF Builder / Ser 7 Sport / Corvair 110HP / under construction > > > >


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    Time: 09:35:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: condensation
    From: "84KF" <stevebenesh@comcast.net>
    I have worked in many hangers, both old and new and it always seemed to me (IMOH and all that stuff...) that proper ventilation is a way to supplement floor coatings and help to keep humidity down. Much like a paint booth, a outflow up high, and inflow down low. If the air gets circulated and recycled the potential for moisture decreases. (yes?) (Dew Point?) Note that most (rented) new steel hangers are quite air tight, but do not have exhaust fan or hoods. Just my thought on the subject. blast away. Steve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100499#100499


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    Time: 09:55:35 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kitfox fuel tanks
    From: "84KF" <stevebenesh@comcast.net>
    I stand by by statement. "Fuel on a day with a head wind..., Priceless" I don't understand yours. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100506#100506


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    Time: 10:32:33 AM PST US
    From: Hays Jeff <n85ae@yahoo.com>
    Subject: I'm Back on the list
    Hi All - I'm back on the list after almost 4 years.Currently building a Zenith CH801 and still flying N85AE (Series 5, IO-240B). My old website is long gone, but most of the stuff from it exists on: http://www.aselia.com Just as an opening comment, I'd like to mention that the Kreme in my tanks is still not peeling off. My un-sloshed spars have not sheared off yet. My elevator still has plenty of authority despite my plane being nose heavy, and I have not yet gap sealed my elevator. Think that covers all the usual list subjects, right? :) Oh, and the question on my mind for a long time - Laura, and Danny did Skystar pay you guys to say - "anybody can build one of these planes with simple hand tools", and "I love going up at 2000 fpm" :) Regards, Jeff Hays


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    Time: 11:27:09 AM PST US
    From: "RAY Gignac" <kitfoxpilot@msn.com>
    Subject: I'm Back on the list
    Nice to see you back, my friend just purchased a CH701 flys great! except I will have to slow way down for him to keep up with me in my Model IV with a 912uls!! Ray >From: Hays Jeff <n85ae@yahoo.com> >To: kitfox <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Kitfox-List: I'm Back on the list >Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:31:45 -0700 (PDT) > > >Hi All - > >I'm back on the list after almost 4 years.Currently building a Zenith CH801 >and still flying N85AE (Series 5, IO-240B). > >My old website is long gone, but most of the stuff from it exists on: > >http://www.aselia.com > >Just as an opening comment, I'd like to mention that the Kreme in my >tanks is still not peeling off. My un-sloshed spars have not sheared off >yet. >My elevator still has plenty of authority despite my plane being nose >heavy, and I have not yet gap sealed my elevator. Think that covers all the >usual list subjects, right? :) > >Oh, and the question on my mind for a long time - Laura, and Danny did >Skystar pay you guys to say - "anybody can build one of these planes with >simple hand tools", and "I love going up at 2000 fpm" :) > >Regards, >Jeff Hays > > _________________________________________________________________ Find what you need at prices youll love. Compare products and save at MSN Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102&tcode=T001MSN20A0701


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    Time: 11:49:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: I'm Back on the list
    From: "84KF" <stevebenesh@comcast.net>
    Welcome (back) to Dodge City 'pardner... (works best with a John Wayne accent) Steve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100531#100531


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    Time: 12:13:42 PM PST US
    From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
    Subject: Re: condensation
    On Mar 14, 2007, at 5:35 PM, 84KF wrote: > that proper ventilation is a way to supplement floor coatings and help > to keep humidity down. Ventilation is certainly the key word in the fight against condensation. As we learn in meteorology, warm air rises and an opening near the floor, plus another one at the top of the ceiling, should provide a 'chimney' effect. But it only works if there is warm air under cold air. If the metal roof is heated by the sun, we get - as in meteorology - an inversion: stable air, warm above cold, and nothing moves. The solution would then be to isolate the roof. Maybe stretching sheets of clear plastic on the inside of the roof should suffice. After all, next to vacuum, air is the best thermo-isolator, isn't it? Cheers, Michel do not archive


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    Time: 02:41:08 PM PST US
    From: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
    Subject: Matco parts.
    Crikey, I thought my email was going to Deke only but its gone to the list as well. Thanks for the offers everyone. I'll let you know whats needed when I pull them apart. Also, thank you all sincerely for your kind thoughts and offers. My little demon went flying with me yesterday and I got right up his nose by enjoying the flight immensely. I had a good talk to him before we went up and told him he was welcome to come along if he sat down, shut up and just hang on. I only heard a couple of murmurs from him during the flight and I quickly put him in his place. I believe I can put this behind me and your encouragement was want I needed to get my head into a place that I could rationalise my thoughts. Thanks guys, as I said to Deke, your a good bunch of blokes. Regards Graeme


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    Time: 03:30:57 PM PST US
    From: "QSS" <msm@byterocky.net>
    Subject: Matco parts
    Thanks Mike, you could be on the money there. The masters were full to the top but Im not sure it would explain the peddle fading when the brakes are applied. I added Hydraulic oil from the bleed point at the brake assembly until it came through the vent hole in the master cylinder. I then replaced the vent plug. When applying pressure on the brake peddle the starboard cylinder faded after several pumps. That seemed to set off a series of failures with 2 of the other master cylinders. Oil is coming up through the hole the peddle shaft runs through but there is no seal in this area to prevent that occurring. I have replaced the seals with metric ones and visually there appears to be no difference although Im sure a micrometer would tell another story. I feel this is where the problem is, hence the possible need for the original overhaul kit. Regards Graeme


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    Time: 04:41:15 PM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Re: Matco parts
    Graeme, this would be a good email to send direct to Matco support for their take on it. They can also help you with determining which kit to order. The kits are cheap. Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: QSS To: kitfox-list@matronics.com ; kitfoxmike Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:29 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Matco parts Thanks Mike, you could be on the money there. The masters were full to the top but Im not sure it would explain the peddle fading when the brakes are applied. I added Hydraulic oil from the bleed point at the brake assembly until it came through the vent hole in the master cylinder. I then replaced the vent plug. When applying pressure on the brake peddle the starboard cylinder faded after several pumps. That seemed to set off a series of failures with 2 of the other master cylinders. Oil is coming up through the hole the peddle shaft runs through but there is no seal in this area to prevent that occurring. I have replaced the seals with metric ones and visually there appears to be no difference although Im sure a micrometer would tell another story. I feel this is where the problem is, hence the possible need for the original overhaul kit. Regards Graeme


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    Time: 07:29:26 PM PST US
    Subject: First Flight
    From: David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com>
    This morning at Calhoun, GA I flew my Kitfox 5, 912ULS for the first flight. Unbelievable feeling. The plane handled great, no problems at all. However the capacitor I reported on last month (the replacement) blew about 20 minutes into the flight. I knew immediately what it was, so didn't panic. The rest of the flight was uneventful. Can't wait to solve this problem and get her up again. Special thanks to Maxwell Duke for letting me get a couple of hours in his plane. David Estapa Woodstock, GA S5TD N97DE


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    Time: 08:15:53 PM PST US
    From: "john perry" <eskflyer@lvcisp.com>
    Subject: Re: First Flight
    A GREAT BIG CONGRATS. Have fun learning the quirks in her . Hope you do not have any more squawks in the girl . Fly safe John Perry


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    Time: 08:19:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Flight
    From: "dcsfoto" <david@kelm.com>
    got mine from lockwood,works great. I did get one at a computer store and if blew as soon as power was on. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100626#100626


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    Time: 08:43:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: I'm Back on the list
    From: "dcsfoto" <david@kelm.com>
    nice airplane.where did you get the air vents? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100630#100630


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    Time: 09:27:18 PM PST US
    From: "Larry/Cathy Boone" <cathyboone@softcom.net>
    Subject: Re: contact info for KItfox inc
    208 337-5111 ----- Original Message ----- From: kirk hull To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:37 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: contact info for KItfox inc I need to price/order some parts from kitfox but I cant find their contact info would any one have their email address.




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