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1. 03:50 AM - Re: contact info for KItfox inc (Mike)
2. 05:03 AM - Another Kitfox flies! (Kerry Skyring)
3. 05:36 AM - Re: First Flight (W Duke)
4. 05:39 AM - Re: Another Kitfox flies! (W Duke)
5. 06:23 AM - Re: I'm Back on the list (n85ae)
6. 06:57 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox fuel tanks (Noel Loveys)
7. 07:08 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox fuel tanks (Noel Loveys)
8. 07:17 AM - Fw: wingtip crack (Clem Nichols)
9. 07:22 AM - Re: Re: condensation (Noel Loveys)
10. 07:31 AM - Re: Fw: wingtip crack interesting (Aerobatics@aol.com)
11. 07:34 AM - Re: wingtip crack (n85ae)
12. 07:36 AM - Re: wingtip crack (Bob)
13. 07:41 AM - Re: Fw: wingtip crack (fox5flyer)
14. 07:41 AM - Re: Kitfox fuel tanks (n85ae)
15. 07:54 AM - Re: Fw: wingtip crack (D. Fisher)
16. 07:59 AM - Re: Droop tips -- opinions (D. Fisher)
17. 08:02 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox fuel tanks (D. Fisher)
18. 08:02 AM - Re: Fw: wingtip crack interesting (paul wilson)
19. 08:05 AM - Re: Fw: wingtip crack (Michel Verheughe)
20. 08:32 AM - Re: First Flight (Roger Standley)
21. 08:49 AM - Re: Fw: wingtip crack (paul wilson)
22. 09:31 AM - Re: Fw: wingtip crack (Clem Nichols)
23. 10:01 AM - Re: wingtip crack (84KF)
24. 10:24 AM - Re: First Flight (RRTRACK@aol.com)
25. 01:19 PM - Ram Engines Experience? (darinh)
26. 01:37 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox fuel tanks (Sjklerks@aol.com)
27. 02:29 PM - Re: Ram Engines Experience? (Rick)
28. 03:30 PM - Re: Ram Engines Experience? (GENTRYLL@aol.com)
29. 04:36 PM - AD's question for airworthy cert (pilotpat)
30. 04:55 PM - Re: Re: wingtip crack< FOR BOB > (john perry)
31. 05:07 PM - Re: AD's question for airworthy cert (john perry)
32. 05:45 PM - Re: wingtip crack< FOR BOB > (akflyer)
33. 05:59 PM - Re: AD's question for airworthy cert (kirk hull)
34. 06:13 PM - Re: Re: wingtip crack< FOR BOB > (john perry)
35. 06:20 PM - Re: AD's question for airworthy cert (84KF)
36. 07:20 PM - Re: Re: wingtip crack< FOR BOB > (Noel Loveys)
37. 08:05 PM - Re: wingtip crack< FOR BOB > (akflyer)
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| Subject: | Re: contact info for KItfox inc |
Go to the following website:
www.kitfoxaircraft.com All of the contact info is posted there.
Mike
On Mar 15, 2007, at 12:27 AM, Larry/Cathy Boone wrote:
> 208 337-5111
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kirk hull
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:37 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: contact info for KItfox inc
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> I need to price/order some parts from kitfox but I cant find their
> contact info would any one have their email address.
>
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| Subject: | Another Kitfox flies! |
Yesterday OE-UMJ, a beautiful S5 Kitfox built by Johann Muehlberger flew
from Stockerau near Vienna. The flight went well and I will report soon with
some figures. Here's a link to a few pictures on our airfield's web site.
http://www.fsv2000.at/
The test pilot was Wolfgang Gockert who said he was delighted by the plane's
handling. It's an S5 with 912S and fixed pitch prop. Grove landing gear. I
know other S5 owners will be interested in our figures so will post when
we've got a good idea of performance etc. Many many thanks to the list, John
McBean et al.
Kerry (builders helper)
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
Congratulations and you are certainly welcome.
Maxwell
David Estapa <davestapa@juno.com> wrote:
This morning at Calhoun, GA I flew my Kitfox 5, 912ULS for the first
flight. Unbelievable feeling. The plane handled great, no problems at
all. However the capacitor I reported on last month (the replacement)
blew about 20 minutes into the flight. I knew immediately what it was, so
didn't panic. The rest of the flight was uneventful. Can't wait to solve
this problem and get her up again. Special thanks to Maxwell Duke for
letting me get a couple of hours in his plane.
David Estapa
Woodstock, GA
S5TD N97DE
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| Subject: | Re: Another Kitfox flies! |
Congratulations.
Maxwell
Kerry Skyring <kerryskyring@hotmail.com> wrote:
Yesterday OE-UMJ, a beautiful S5 Kitfox built by Johann Muehlberger flew
from Stockerau near Vienna. The flight went well and I will report soon with
some figures. Here's a link to a few pictures on our airfield's web site.
http://www.fsv2000.at/
The test pilot was Wolfgang Gockert who said he was delighted by the plane's
handling. It's an S5 with 912S and fixed pitch prop. Grove landing gear. I
know other S5 owners will be interested in our figures so will post when
we've got a good idea of performance etc. Many many thanks to the list, John
McBean et al.
Kerry (builders helper)
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| Subject: | Re: I'm Back on the list |
Regarding the airvents, I made them from scratch. The flap is made
from two layers of aluminum which are flush riveted together. This provides the
bevel for the edge as one piece is about 1/4" larger all the way around. The
housing I made a wooden plug, and glassclothed
them with West Systems epoxy.
Airvents - Total waste of time in hindsight. The snap vents I put in my bubble
doors provide a TON more air, and doing it over that's all I would install.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100678#100678
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox fuel tanks |
You obviously have a lot more experience than I have flying planes. I still
have to ask if it is really necessary to fill your plane to the gas caps. I
take short flights myself where I quite intentionally don't completely fill
the plane.
When you go for resale the two 13 Gal. tanks may increase the value of your
plane a bit.
Never the less if you do decide to change out the tanks I am still
interested in buying the left one. It will allow me to make a trip of 200
mi with lots of reserve so I can check in at a few hunting camps I know of
without having to drag extra fuel in the float.
BTW where are you??? I hope it's not Hawaii :-) The shipping charges would
be big!
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:08 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox fuel tanks
>
>
>
> There are a few good ones out there who provide good
> technical advice on our
> airplanes, but after 50 years and 12,000 hours of flying
> (accident free) I
> really dont need lessons on Airspeed, Altitude, or Fuel
> management. I just
> really need the fuel tanks that fit my style of flying Here
> in the Idaho
> back country. Priceless is clearing the tree tops at the end
> of an 800 ft
> strip in the back country. Too much fuel on board might be
> the difference
> between treetops for lunch or fresh trout.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "84KF" <stevebenesh@comcast.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:38 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox fuel tanks
>
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> > Airspeed..., Take it of leave it.
> > Altitude..., More is better. ---
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> > Fuel on a day with a head wind..., Priceless
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox fuel tanks |
Got it, Idaho. I can see where you would want to be light.....
What is the difference in the actual weight of the tanks?
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:08 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox fuel tanks
>
>
>
> There are a few good ones out there who provide good
> technical advice on our
> airplanes, but after 50 years and 12,000 hours of flying
> (accident free) I
> really dont need lessons on Airspeed, Altitude, or Fuel
> management. I just
> really need the fuel tanks that fit my style of flying Here
> in the Idaho
> back country. Priceless is clearing the tree tops at the end
> of an 800 ft
> strip in the back country. Too much fuel on board might be
> the difference
> between treetops for lunch or fresh trout.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "84KF" <stevebenesh@comcast.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:38 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox fuel tanks
>
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> >
> > Airspeed..., Take it of leave it.
> > Altitude..., More is better. ---
> >
> > Fuel on a day with a head wind..., Priceless
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| Subject: | Fw: wingtip crack |
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Subject: wingtip crack
I have just noticed a 12 inch longitudinal hairline crack along the
outside edge of the right wingtip on my Model IV 1200. I had originally
thought it was just a scratch in the paint, but unfortunately that's not
the case. I have no idea what could have caused this as the wingtip has
never struck anything at least since I've owned the plane. My question
is, can this be safely repaired, or should the wingtip be replaced. It
appears to be perfectly sound otherwise, and because of the cracks
location it wouldn't seem to me to be subject to a great deal of
in-flight stress. I wonder about drilling a small hole at each end of
the crack to keep it from extending any further, and then using an epoxy
glue on the crack and epoxy filler on the drilled holes. Does this
sound reasonable (ie safe)? Any opinions/recommendations appreciated.
Clem Nichols
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| Subject: | Re: condensation |
If you can put in a heat exchanger... Pick up a used one....That should
keep things pretty dry in cold weather when the outside air is below 15C.
De-humidifiers will usually only work effectively down to about 10C I doubt
you need one during the summer and as it gets colder it becomes less
efficient. Below 0C any moisture that will condense is already frozen ergo
not a great factor for condensation.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 84KF
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:05 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: condensation
>
>
>
> I have worked in many hangers, both old and new and it always
> seemed to me (IMOH and all that stuff...) that proper
> ventilation is a way to supplement floor coatings and help to
> keep humidity down. Much like a paint booth, a outflow up
> high, and inflow down low. If the air gets circulated and
> recycled the potential for moisture decreases. (yes?) (Dew
> Point?) Note that most (rented) new steel hangers are quite
> air tight, but do not have exhaust fan or hoods.
>
> Just my thought on the subject. blast away.
> Steve
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: wingtip crack interesting |
In a message dated 3/15/2007 9:18:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
cnichols@scrtc.com writes:
Subject: wingtip crack
I have just noticed a 12 inch longitudinal hairline crack along the outside
edge of the right wingtip on my Model IV 1200. I had originally thought it
was just a scratch in the paint, but unfortunately that's not the case. I
have no idea what could have caused this as the wingtip has never struck
anything at least since I've owned the plane. My question is, can this be safely
repaired, or should the wingtip be replaced. It appears to be perfectly sound
otherwise, and because of the cracks location it wouldn't seem to me to be
subject to a great deal of in-flight stress. I wonder about drilling a small
hole at each end of the crack to keep it from extending any further, and then
using an epoxy glue on the crack and epoxy filler on the drilled holes. Does
this sound reasonable (ie safe)? Any opinions/recommendations appreciated.
Clem Nichols
I dont respond much here but I have a few thoughts...
I assume if just a crack, its in the gel coat. While this will weaken the
glass part a bit, it may not be ruined. If there is anyway of getting inside
to the interior of the wing tip, you can clean and lay some glass from the
inside to stiffen the cracked area... then just make the crack "look good" with
touch up paint on the outside... maybe add a pinstripe?
If not, I might see if I could wick in some CA glue into the crack, when
cured, try to make crack look good with touch up paint and see if it re
develops... if it is really broken then I would lay glass on the outside and
refinish.....
Just a modelers opinion!
In any case I hope it works out!
Dave Patrick
KF2
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| Subject: | Re: wingtip crack |
It isn't a stressed part, so there's really no reason you can't fix it. Just scuff
the inside with some 80 grit. Get some T-88 in there, and flow it into the
crack via a little heat from a heat gun. Then put in a layer or two of glasscloth
behind the crack. Should be good as new.
I dropped one of my wing tips 4 years ago, and the trailing edge split. I put some
T-88 in it, and taped it together til cured, and it still holding today.
Regards,
Jeff Hays
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| Subject: | Re: wingtip crack |
Assuming it's fiberglass, it's very repairable by patching from the inside. The
patch thickness needs to taper of in layers and within an inch of the crack
need to be as thick as the original FAA publication AC43.13 has good illustrations.
If've you've never done glass work, see if you can find some help, preferabley
from somebody who knows the difference between working on airplanes
and boats.
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: wingtip crack |
Those tips are fiberglass with a gel coating on the outside. More than
likely the crack is only in the gel coating and nothing to worry about.
Fiberglass is pretty tough stuff. An easy repair would be to rough sand
it, apply a 1" wide strip of fiberglass with resin over it. Sand, fill,
and paint.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: Clem Nichols
To: kitfox list
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 12:41 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Fw: wingtip crack
-----
Subject: wingtip crack
I have just noticed a 12 inch longitudinal hairline crack along the
outside edge of the right wingtip on my Model IV 1200. I had originally
thought it was just a scratch in the paint, but unfortunately that's not
the case. I have no idea what could have caused this as the wingtip has
never struck anything at least since I've owned the plane. My question
is, can this be safely repaired, or should the wingtip be replaced. It
appears to be perfectly sound otherwise, and because of the cracks
location it wouldn't seem to me to be subject to a great deal of
in-flight stress. I wonder about drilling a small hole at each end of
the crack to keep it from extending any further, and then using an epoxy
glue on the crack and epoxy filler on the drilled holes. Does this
sound reasonable (ie safe)? Any opinions/recommendations appreciated.
Clem Nichols
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox fuel tanks |
Go to www.summitracing.com, and look at "Fuel Cells". They have a bunch, and I have often thought about putting a 10 gallon cell behind the seat as a suplemental tank. Obviously the venting and plumbing would have to be worked out. But this is one way to get some range.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100698#100698
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: wingtip crack |
my Droops tips are two piece and bonded together. I had one split on
seam last year and I just put in some 5 min epoxy and clamped it
together for an hour. Never come apart again. I would guess close to
300 hours flying since the repair.
If your tips are easily removed , I wold take off and add a piece of
glass inside. Mine are not removable easily.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Clem Nichols
To: kitfox list
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 1:41 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Fw: wingtip crack
-----
Subject: wingtip crack
I have just noticed a 12 inch longitudinal hairline crack along the
outside edge of the right wingtip on my Model IV 1200. I had originally
thought it was just a scratch in the paint, but unfortunately that's not
the case. I have no idea what could have caused this as the wingtip has
never struck anything at least since I've owned the plane. My question
is, can this be safely repaired, or should the wingtip be replaced. It
appears to be perfectly sound otherwise, and because of the cracks
location it wouldn't seem to me to be subject to a great deal of
in-flight stress. I wonder about drilling a small hole at each end of
the crack to keep it from extending any further, and then using an epoxy
glue on the crack and epoxy filler on the drilled holes. Does this
sound reasonable (ie safe)? Any opinions/recommendations appreciated.
Clem Nichols
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| Subject: | Re: Droop tips -- opinions |
So what is concensous on Droops tips,?
Has anyone actaully chnaged tips and have and results to share ?
----- Original Message -----
From: D. Fisher
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 9:29 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Droop tips
I am looking for anyone that has changed from Droop tips to the more
current hoerner style tip on a IV.
What was gained or lost if anything ?
I have mixed thoughts on Droop tips. Personally would a winglet tip
( invested tip) now give better STOL ?
Open for comments.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox fuel tanks |
I think these tanks might be adaptable lfor behind the seat as well.
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=28146&product%5Fid=19330
----- Original Message -----
From: "n85ae" <n85ae@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:41 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox fuel tanks
>
> Go to www.summitracing.com, and look at "Fuel Cells". They have a bunch,
> and I have often thought about putting a 10 gallon cell behind the seat as
> a suplemental tank. Obviously the venting and plumbing would have to be
> worked out. But this is one way to get some range.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100698#100698
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: wingtip crack interesting |
At some point way back when, someone advised several of us builders that the wing
tips needed to be reinforced based on previous experience. What we did it put
a couple of fiberglass/epoxy lay ups on the inside where the two halfs are
joined. It was pretty easy. Of course removal of the wing tip is required.
Paul
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At 07:30 AM 3/15/2007, you Clem Nichols wrote:
In a message dated 3/15/2007 9:18:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, cnichols@scrtc.com
writes:
Subject: wingtip crack
I have just noticed a 12 inch longitudinal hairline crack along the outside edge
of the right wingtip on my Model IV 1200. I had originally thought it was just
a scratch in the paint, but unfortunately that's not the case. I have no
idea what could have caused this as the wingtip has never struck anything at least
since I've owned the plane. My question is, can this be safely repaired,
or should the wingtip be replaced. It appears to be perfectly sound otherwise,
and because of the cracks location it wouldn't seem to me to be subject to
a great deal of in-flight stress. I wonder about drilling a small hole at each
end of the crack to keep it from extending any further, and then using an epoxy
glue on the crack and epoxy filler on the drilled holes. Does this sound
reasonable (ie safe)? Any opinions/recommendations appreciated.
Clem Nichols
I dont respond much here but I have a few thoughts...
I assume if just a crack, its in the gel coat. While this will weaken the glass
part a bit, it may not be ruined. If there is anyway of getting inside to the
interior of the wing tip, you can clean and lay some glass from the inside
to stiffen the cracked area... then just make the crack "look good" with touch
up paint on the outside... maybe add a pinstripe?
If not, I might see if I could wick in some CA glue into the crack, when cured,
try to make crack look good with touch up paint and see if it re develops...
if it is really broken then I would lay glass on the outside and refinish.....
Just a modelers opinion!
In any case I hope it works out!
Dave Patrick
KF2
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| Subject: | Fw: wingtip crack |
> From: Clem Nichols [cnichols@scrtc.com]
> I have just noticed a 12 inch longitudinal hairline crack along the outside edge
I will only confirm what others have already said: it is certainly only a hairline
crack in the gelcoat and it is not dangerous at all for the wingtip as it
will never extend through the glassfiber. Such hairline cracks are often to be
seen on GRP boats; mine has a few of those for many years. They often come as
a star pattern around a place that has had a stress. The GRP will bend, the gelcoat
won't. It is only cosmetic and not structural. On my sailboat, my cracks
are most probably the result of being on land in a cratle in the winter. Hulls
are designed to have a pressure from the outside water, not to "hang in the
air." The only thing I do is to ensure that water won't get in the cracks since
when water freezes (it tends to do that in Norway! :-) the crack might expend,
is to wax it properly to keep it water-free.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
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=0A=0A This morning at Calhoun, GA I flew my Kitfox 5, 912ULS f
or the first=0A flight. Unbelievable feeling. The plane handled gr
eat, no problems at=0A all. However the capacitor I reported on la
st month (the replacement)=0A blew about 20 minutes into the fligh
t. I knew immediately what it was, so=0A didn't panic. The rest of
the flight was uneventful. Can't wait to solve=0A this problem an
d get her up again. Special thanks to Maxwell Duke for=0A letting
me get a couple of hours in his plane.=0A=0A David Estapa=0A
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| Subject: | Fw: wingtip crack |
True gel coat cracks are not an issue. But, wing tips that did not get the lay
up to join the two halves might present a problem. One must look inside to see
if the inside lay ups are present. Mine had no lay ups and were just bonded together
with epoxy. I believe others found the same thing
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: wingtip crack |
Paul:
Thanks to you and the others who have responded to my question. I think you
have hit the nail on the head, and that's exactly what I intend to do,
remove the wingtip, and see what it looks like on the inside.
Clem
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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fw: wingtip crack
>
> True gel coat cracks are not an issue. But, wing tips that did not get the
> lay up to join the two halves might present a problem. One must look
> inside to see if the inside lay ups are present. Mine had no lay ups and
> were just bonded together with epoxy. I believe others found the same
> thing
> Paul
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| Subject: | Re: wingtip crack |
Clem,
Excellent decision.
Not that any defect or flaw will be detected, but we do have individual responsibilities.
91.7 Civil aircraft airworthiness.
"(b) The pilot in command of a civil aircraft is responsible for determining whether
that aircraft is in condition for safe flight. The pilot in command shall
discontinue the flight when unairworthy mechanical, electrical, or structural
conditions occur."
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
Congratulations David!!!!
Looking forward to more flight reports. I sure hope the Kitfox 5 really
works out well for you.
Keep us updated.
Mark
Wisconsin
Kitfox 5 Vixen UL 912
Avid "B" STOL 582
RV6A 0-360
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| Subject: | Ram Engines Experience? |
Does anyone have experience with the Ram Engines 140hp EA81 Subaru? I am contemplating
this engine for my Series 7 and would like to hear the good and the bad
about it as it would pertain to a series 5, 6 or 7. I have read plenty about
the NSI engines and people seem to either like them or hate them but I understand
this is a completely different setup from the NSI. Ram actually reworks
there engines completely and engineers them for aircraft use (that is what is
said on the website anyway). I would likely be sticking a IFA prop on the end
like the Airmasters or the IVO.
Any info would be great on this particular setup and actual performance numbers
would be even better.
Thanks guys (and gals if there are any),
Darin H.
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox fuel tanks |
Go to _www.speedwaymoters.com_ (http://www.speedwaymoters.com) (poly fuel
tanks) They have some fuel tanks that are 33" long X 8" around. I'm going to
install behind the seat above the baggage compartment. Then tee it into the
header tank. Jim
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| Subject: | Ram Engines Experience? |
My personal opinion is they (RON) has lost the bubble. Maybe when he
first started and was mostly hands on doing quality work himself it was
a good company. Now he has helpers and all the problems associated with
it. Quality control is non existent. I not going into all the details
but suffice it to say I will not send him any more work nor will I buy
anything from him. He is however a nice man and has always done the
right thing, fix, replace, refund ect, just to much time and work on my
part for what should have been right the first time. Especially
considering what these engines are going in. Maybe your luck will be
better and maybe he has in proved the quality. Just not going back
myself.
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of darinh
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 1:15 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Ram Engines Experience?
Does anyone have experience with the Ram Engines 140hp EA81 Subaru? I
am contemplating this engine for my Series 7 and would like to hear the
good and the bad about it as it would pertain to a series 5, 6 or 7. I
have read plenty about the NSI engines and people seem to either like
them or hate them but I understand this is a completely different setup
from the NSI. Ram actually reworks there engines completely and
engineers them for aircraft use (that is what is said on the website
anyway). I would likely be sticking a IFA prop on the end like the
Airmasters or the IVO.
Any info would be great on this particular setup and actual performance
numbers would be even better.
Thanks guys (and gals if there are any),
Darin H.
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| Subject: | Re: Ram Engines Experience? |
I own an NSI Subaru in a Model IV. I could not keep it flying due to plug
fouling and running too rich. It had an Ellison ESF-2 TB carb on it. Both
NSI and Ellison said run the fuel pressure at 4 to 5 psi. I lost 18 months of
flying time fooling with it. I called the guys at Ram and told them I
wanted to change my entire intake/carb setup for that he uses on his engine as
I
had had enough. He asked one simple question and that was how much fuel
pressure I was running. I said 4 to 5 just like NSI and Ellison said to run.
Ram said as much as I would like to sell you my stuff, try cutting the pressure
back to 1.5 and see how it does. I ran a bypass line and reduced the
pressure to 1.25 and it has run perfectly since. My next will be a Ram Conversion.
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| Subject: | AD's question for airworthy cert |
AD's Question - I am trying to get my kitfox airworthy certificate as a ELSA and
the Faa says I forgot to put in the box the latest Note AD bi - weekly in publication
at the time I signed the form (8130-6) Does anyone know what this number
or current publication would be? This is a kitfox classic iv and never flew
yet and I purchased it mostly built. it has the jabiru 2200A engine ....any
help or link to these would be helpful.
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| Subject: | Re: wingtip crack< FOR BOB > |
BOB
I am one who has worked on boats, infact built many . If you have a problem
with someone who cannot glass that is one thing but to insinuate that
someone who builds boats does not know what they are doing is not very nice
.
Yes i also do glass work on aircraft .
John Perry
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" preferabley from somebody who knows the difference between working on
airplanes and boats."
> Bob
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| Subject: | Re: AD's question for airworthy cert |
You will not have any AD's pertaining to your aircraft if i understand it
correctly . these only apply to Certified aircraft . You will however find
service bulletins posted by the manufacturer or kit provider .
John Perry
Kitfox 2 N718PD
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| Subject: | Re: wingtip crack< FOR BOB > |
now I know why your bird flys with the left wing down all the time....musta got
a bit too much glass on that side.. I told you that a full gallon of resin was
not necessary for a lil ole 3" " linear indication" (I hate the "c" word).....
Didn't Dad teach you the difference between roving, mat and cloth and the appropriate
times to use each... I swear us boat guys must be stupid or something...maybe
from huffing too much acetone...I guess we better seek profesional help
next time we need to fix something as elementary as fibergalss.....
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Avid C W/582
1260 full lotus
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| Subject: | AD's question for airworthy cert |
When the FAA ask, you built most of the airplane and way over 51% and
there are no AD's on experimental aircraft. I looked at the Faa form on the
web (FAA.GOV) and it has changed sence the last time I filled one out. I
would suggest that you lic your plane as an Experimental/armature built.
You will still be able to fly it as a sport pilot but the plane will not be
limited to only what a sport plane can do. This way the pilot will be the
limiting factor and not the plane. There may come a time when your planes
needs to be able to do those things ( night flight).
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pilotpat
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 5:36 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: AD's question for airworthy cert
AD's Question - I am trying to get my kitfox airworthy certificate as a ELSA
and the Faa says I forgot to put in the box the latest Note AD bi - weekly
in publication at the time I signed the form (8130-6) Does anyone know what
this number or current publication would be? This is a kitfox classic iv
and never flew yet and I purchased it mostly built. it has the jabiru 2200A
engine ....any help or link to these would be helpful.
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| Subject: | Re: wingtip crack< FOR BOB > |
UHHH i dunno what ya talkin about that 3 inch whatever you said thingy is
actually a shotgun blast from the last time we went snipe hunting and tilt
is to the right you were facing backwards fring out the door when you got
the tip . and all that weight is from the duct tape and gorilla glue with
the bluejean patch on top . dang cant you remember anything after burning a
few .
Cant hardly wait to get back home and fly with ya bro
Fly safe fly low fly slow
John Perry
Kitfox 2 N718PD
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From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 7:44 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: wingtip crack< FOR BOB >
>
> now I know why your bird flys with the left wing down all the
> time....musta got a bit too much glass on that side.. I told you that a
> full gallon of resin was not necessary for a lil ole 3" " linear
> indication" (I hate the "c" word).....
>
> Didn't Dad teach you the difference between roving, mat and cloth and the
> appropriate times to use each... I swear us boat guys must be stupid or
> something...maybe from huffing too much acetone...I guess we better seek
> profesional help next time we need to fix something as elementary as
> fibergalss.....
>
> --------
> Leni
> Avid C W/582
> 1260 full lotus
>
> .......DO NOT ARCHIVE.....
>
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| Subject: | Re: AD's question for airworthy cert |
Oh boy...
I'm just going to watch this thread..... and see what we have learned about E-LSA
and S-LSA.
The first question I would have is ..." was, or is, the kit or plans approved
for E-LSA and if so was it built to the EXACT specifications of that kits (now)
FAA approved assembly instructions.?
"I would suggest that you lic your plane as an Experimental/armature built.
You will still be able to fly it as a sport pilot but the plane will not be
limited to only what a sport plane can do. This way the pilot will be the
limiting factor and not the plane. "
I like this thinking...but many do not.
Steve
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| Subject: | Re: wingtip crack< FOR BOB > |
I think what he was getting at was the use of vacuum bagging parts, using
pre preg or weighed resin to glass ratios as opposed to spray up or lay up
commonly used in boats.
I might be wrong.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> john perry
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 9:24 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: wingtip crack< FOR BOB >
>
>
>
> BOB
> I am one who has worked on boats, infact built many . If you
> have a problem
> with someone who cannot glass that is one thing but to insinuate that
> someone who builds boats does not know what they are doing is
> not very nice
> .
> Yes i also do glass work on aircraft .
>
> John Perry
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
> " preferabley from somebody who knows the difference between
> working on
> airplanes and boats."
> > Bob
> >
> > --------
> > Remember that internet advice may only be worth what you pay.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: wingtip crack< FOR BOB > |
the replies are still funny.....oh yeah... I have vaccume bagged boat parts too....
But it was a model lol.
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1260 full lotus
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