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1. 08:47 AM - Rustoleum? (Bob)
2. 08:51 AM - Re: Rustoleum? (Aerobatics@aol.com)
3. 10:18 AM - IVO Prop wanted (RRTRACK@aol.com)
4. 11:22 AM - Re: Rustoleum? (n85ae)
5. 11:42 AM - Re: Intermittent 912 ULS problem (skyring)
6. 01:18 PM - Re: Re: Rustoleum? (Aerobatics@aol.com)
7. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: Intermittent 912 ULS problem (jdmcbean)
8. 03:51 PM - Re: Electrical probe for Bing 40 mm carb type 94. (Sjklerks@AOL.COM)
9. 04:28 PM - Re: LANDING GEAR (Leroy Kopecky)
10. 05:36 PM - Re: Re: Intermittent 912 ULS problem (kurt schrader)
11. 05:38 PM - Re: IVO Prop wanted (kurt schrader)
12. 07:05 PM - Re: LANDING GEAR (neflyer48)
13. 07:34 PM - Re: LANDING GEAR (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
14. 10:12 PM - Re: Re: Gap seals (Mark Thompson)
15. 10:37 PM - Re: Re: Best prop was: Fuel consumption based on gallons per hour (Larry/Cathy Boone)
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Quiet day on the site and I don't have any epoxy paint available right now, so
...
Any actual experiences or problems with using Rustoleum to touch up some nicks
in powdercoat? We're talking match-head size stuff, not repainting a length of
tube. I have small cans of primer and gloss in white, matching the powdercoat.
The alternative on-hand is some clear 2-part epoxy. My metallurgist friend
says to use the Rustoleum, due to the zinc in the primer. As much as anything,
I'm wondering if PolyTac will dissolve it (due to the MEK) but then re-seal
the nicks. Again, I'd appreciate actual experience, not what people think maybe
could happen.
Thanks
Bob
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In a message dated 3/28/2007 10:49:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
dswaim1119@comcast.net writes:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bob" <dswaim1119@comcast.net>
Quiet day on the site and I don't have any epoxy paint available right now,
so ...
Any actual experiences or problems with using Rustoleum to touch up some
nicks in powdercoat? We're talking match-head size stuff, not repainting a
length of tube. I have small cans of primer and gloss in white, matching the
powdercoat. The alternative on-hand is some clear 2-part epoxy. My metallurgist
friend says to use the Rustoleum, due to the zinc in the primer. As much as
anything, I'm wondering if PolyTac will dissolve it (due to the MEK) but then
re-seal the nicks. Again, I'd appreciate actual experience, not what people
think maybe could happen.
Thanks
Bob
I use it all the time.... for touch up....takes a long time to
dry..............
Dave
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Looking to buy an IVO prop for my 912 UL Kitfox 5. Prefer the in-flight
adjustable but would consider the ground adjustable to start with.
Please e-mail direct to _RRTRACK@AOL.COM_ (mailto:RRTRACK@AOL.COM)
Thanks,
Mark
Wisconsin
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Rustoleum will dissolve so fast it will make your head spin with anything
with MEK in it. Otherwise, it is a great paint for Steel.
The answer is that it won't work well with the Polyfiber system
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Intermittent 912 ULS problem |
Thanks so much to everyone. I think we may have it nailed down and I think it is
a no-brainer i.e. I have no brains. Reading the comments on fuel starvation
got me thinking. The problem usually arises after 15 or 20 minutes of running.
We were linking it to the heating up over this time but of course this is about
the time it takes to empty the header tank! As soon as this light bulb went
off in my head I sent a message to the airfield to check the header tank. Back
came a message saying the problem had arisen again, in the air this time, and
after about 20 minutes of flight and as it did the low fuel warning light came
on. It seems to confirm it's the flow from the wing tanks to the header tank
and I think it is as simple as: The fuel lines having a slight bow up as they
come out of the tanks. I know, the warnings about this are everywhere! In my
defence, I did stress this to the owner and we did make sure they were going
downwards but in our concern about folding the wings (we've had to do a lot of
it) we left quite a bit of length and it is my guess that during many folding
and unfoldings of the wings the hoses have moved up a bit in the clamps and are
now slightly bowed up. I'm not at the airfield and can't check this. I am tied
to work and fly out of the country for several days tomorrow so will not know
until next week. If it is not this then I think it will be something else
related to fuel flow from the wing tanks. I think we are on to it. I will advise
next week in a new thread. Again thanks. All the replies have been very helpful.
Kerry.
PS plane now has 36 minutes flight time. I get to fly it after the 40 hour test
period so you can see why I want to get this problem solved.
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In a message dated 3/28/2007 1:23:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
n85ae@yahoo.com writes:
The answer is that it won't work well with the Polyfiber system
Jeff
My KITFOX 2 was done in the poly system, all diana cream with a green, Piper
Cub style lightening bolt on the side.
The green trim is rustoleum, applied a little over 3 years ago and has been
fine. Looks great, very easy to apply. I keep the cans warm, not hot, as I
spray buy keeping them in warm water. this ensures good pressure. Flows
great, excellent coverage. I used a mist coat, then in about 15 min the colour
coat.
I am certain its not the right combination and there are better, but it was
very easy, looks great and worked for me :-)
Dave
I have photos to share of it....
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| Subject: | Re: Intermittent 912 ULS problem |
Something else to check... It has happened that while pushing the hose onto
the barbed fitting.. the fitting sliced into the hose and created a flap
inside the hose...
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of skyring
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:42 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Intermittent 912 ULS problem
Thanks so much to everyone. I think we may have it nailed down and I think
it is a no-brainer i.e. I have no brains. Reading the comments on fuel
starvation got me thinking. The problem usually arises after 15 or 20
minutes of running. We were linking it to the heating up over this time but
of course this is about the time it takes to empty the header tank! As soon
as this light bulb went off in my head I sent a message to the airfield to
check the header tank. Back came a message saying the problem had arisen
again, in the air this time, and after about 20 minutes of flight and as it
did the low fuel warning light came on. It seems to confirm it's the flow
from the wing tanks to the header tank and I think it is as simple as: The
fuel lines having a slight bow up as they come out of the tanks. I know, the
warnings about this are everywhere! In my defence, I did stress this to the
owner and we did make sure they were going downwards but in our concern
about folding the wings!
(we've had to do a lot of it) we left quite a bit of length and it is my
guess that during many folding and unfoldings of the wings the hoses have
moved up a bit in the clamps and are now slightly bowed up. I'm not at the
airfield and can't check this. I am tied to work and fly out of the country
for several days tomorrow so will not know until next week. If it is not
this then I think it will be something else related to fuel flow from the
wing tanks. I think we are on to it. I will advise next week in a new
thread. Again thanks. All the replies have been very helpful.
Kerry.
PS plane now has 36 minutes flight time. I get to fly it after the 40 hour
test period so you can see why I want to get this problem solved.
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical probe for Bing 40 mm carb type 94. |
_www.ulparts.com_ (http://www.ulparts.com) They have the info you need.
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: LANDING GEAR |
Sorry, I can't help you. I do have a set of slightly worn tires, but not
wheels.
LeRoy P. Kopecky
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim_and_Lucy Chuk" <thesupe@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: LANDING GEAR
<thesupe@hotmail.com>
>
> Sorry I don't need the "legs" what I do need are the hubs and wheels or
> even just another set of wheels. They could be either 6" or 8" rims as
long
> as they bolt to the Kitfox 6 bolt hubs. Anyone know of a source? Thanks,
> Jim Chuk
>
>
> >From: "Leroy Kopecky" <kopecky@milwpc.com>
> >To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Kitfox-List: LANDING GEAR
> >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:07:58 -0600
> >
> >I'm trying to rid myself of some extra parts. I have a pair of "like
new"
> >landing gear without wheels or axles. They're already primed and
painted.
> >They even have fairings. The gear are for a taildragger, I just don't
need
> >them. If anyone could use a great pair of "legs" for your kitfox I'll
give
> >them away for $250. Call me at 262.483.7757 or email me at
> >kopecky@milwpc.com.
> >
> >I hope I'm not breaking any rules by "advertising". I'm just trying to
> >share parts that I really don't need.
> >
> >DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >
> >
> >LeRoy
> >Wisconsin
> >KFClassicIV
>
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| Subject: | Re: Intermittent 912 ULS problem |
That simple low fuel light can save your bacon as well
as simplify resolving problems. Highly recommended!
Kurt S.
Do not archive
--- skyring <kerryskyring@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks so much to everyone. I think we may have it
> nailed down and I think it is a no-brainer i.e. I
> have no brains. Reading the comments on fuel
> starvation got me thinking. The problem usually
> arises after 15 or 20 minutes of running. We were
> linking it to the heating up over this time but of
> course this is about the time it takes to empty the
> header tank! As soon as this light bulb went off in
> my head I sent a message to the airfield to check
> the header tank. Back came a message saying the
> problem had arisen again, in the air this time, and
> after about 20 minutes of flight and as it did the
> low fuel warning light came on..........
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| Subject: | Re: IVO Prop wanted |
Last I knew, John carries them at the KitFox factory.
Good place to start your search.
Kurt S. S-5
--- RRTRACK@aol.com wrote:
> Looking to buy an IVO prop for my 912 UL Kitfox 5.
> Prefer the in-flight
> adjustable but would consider the ground adjustable
> to start with.
> Thanks,
> Mark
> Wisconsin
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| Subject: | Re: LANDING GEAR |
I have a pair of 8" Matco wheels with tires for a tube gear that I would
like to sell. I switched to a Grove gear with 6" wheels on my Model 3.
Email me at neflyer48@cableone.net or call 402 640 7258.
Jerry Kohles
Norfolk Ne.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim_and_Lucy Chuk" <thesupe@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:34 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: LANDING GEAR
> <thesupe@hotmail.com>
>
> Sorry I don't need the "legs" what I do need are the hubs and wheels or
> even just another set of wheels. They could be either 6" or 8" rims as
> long as they bolt to the Kitfox 6 bolt hubs. Anyone know of a source?
> Thanks, Jim Chuk
>
>
>>From: "Leroy Kopecky" <kopecky@milwpc.com>
>>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Kitfox-List: LANDING GEAR
>>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:07:58 -0600
>>
>>I'm trying to rid myself of some extra parts. I have a pair of "like new"
>>landing gear without wheels or axles. They're already primed and painted.
>>They even have fairings. The gear are for a taildragger, I just don't
>>need them. If anyone could use a great pair of "legs" for your kitfox
>>I'll give them away for $250. Call me at 262.483.7757 or email me at
>>kopecky@milwpc.com.
>>
>>I hope I'm not breaking any rules by "advertising". I'm just trying to
>>share parts that I really don't need.
>>
>>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>>
>>LeRoy
>>Wisconsin
>>KFClassicIV
>
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| Subject: | Re: LANDING GEAR |
Hi Jerry, I just called your home, but perhaps you have a dial up modem and
you are on line. If you would like to email me if you know what you might
want for the wheels, my address is thesupe@hotmail.com thanks, Jim Chuk
>From: "neflyer48" <neflyer48@cableone.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: LANDING GEAR
>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:04:29 -0600
>
>
>I have a pair of 8" Matco wheels with tires for a tube gear that I would
>like to sell. I switched to a Grove gear with 6" wheels on my Model 3.
>Email me at neflyer48@cableone.net or call 402 640 7258.
>
>Jerry Kohles
>Norfolk Ne.
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim_and_Lucy Chuk"
><thesupe@hotmail.com>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:34 PM
>Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: LANDING GEAR
>
>
>><thesupe@hotmail.com>
>>
>>Sorry I don't need the "legs" what I do need are the hubs and wheels or
>>even just another set of wheels. They could be either 6" or 8" rims as
>>long as they bolt to the Kitfox 6 bolt hubs. Anyone know of a source?
>>Thanks, Jim Chuk
>>
>>
>>>From: "Leroy Kopecky" <kopecky@milwpc.com>
>>>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>>>Subject: Kitfox-List: LANDING GEAR
>>>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:07:58 -0600
>>>
>>>I'm trying to rid myself of some extra parts. I have a pair of "like
>>>new" landing gear without wheels or axles. They're already primed and
>>>painted. They even have fairings. The gear are for a taildragger, I just
>>>don't need them. If anyone could use a great pair of "legs" for your
>>>kitfox I'll give them away for $250. Call me at 262.483.7757 or email me
>>>at kopecky@milwpc.com.
>>>
>>>I hope I'm not breaking any rules by "advertising". I'm just trying to
>>>share parts that I really don't need.
>>>
>>>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>>
>>>
>>>LeRoy
>>>Wisconsin
>>>KFClassicIV
>>
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Hi Kirk,I made my own gap seals on my kitfox 4 and they work great,after
talking with the group I decided to do mine with 3" wide pinking tape and
repaint my fabric on the tail,just a little poly tac and some pinking
fabric and it makes a nice looking pro job.....heres a pic.....
hopes it helps you out....MarkN61AC
> [Original Message]
> From: kirk hull <kirkhull@kc.rr.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 3/25/2007 7:51:34 PM
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Gap seals
>
>
> Can you post pics of the gap seal and any details on how you made them
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of john beirne
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:56 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Gap seals
>
>
> I fitted the elevator gap seals as suggested previously but I
didnt get a chance to test fly the aircraft until this weekend due
to weather and work commitments however I have flown five hours over the
weekend and what a difference it makes to the flare and landing rollout
previously I had been bouncing down the runway in the fox but now I
produce nice three pointers consistently I am used to larger aircraft (PC6
/ PA31) and have always thought the kitfox handling a bit washy Thanks for
a great tip guys.
> John.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102837#102837
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Best prop was: Fuel consumption based on gallons |
per hour
Looking for opinions,
I have an S5 and will be putting on the 912 ULS. I also purchased the IVO
medium 72". I am thinking about mounting the IVO in the 2 blade
configuration to save weight and wanting to put the plane on floats later
on. Has anyone tried the IVO 72" 3 or 2 blade?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Best prop was: Fuel consumption based on
gallons per hour
>
> Mark,
>
> This question poses a few problems. Mostly getting responses from guys
> that have used both on the same airplane.
>
> I can give some general info which also brings in the problems with the
> comparisons. This will be regarding Model IVs with 912UL engines. In the
> beginning of the groiup summer flights we were a flight of 4 Kitfoxes and
> a Rans s-6. The Rans doesn't count as it had a ULS and his experience was
> with a Warp and a NSI CAP 140.
>
> Of the four Kitfoxes one flew behind a 582 and that doesn't count either.
> The three IVs with 912s, two had Warps and the other a GSC. One of the
> Warp planes was definitely faster due to lots of fairings etc, but since
> we all flew the same speed for group reasons that airplane was
> distinguished by fuel economy, burning at least a gallon an hour less than
> the other two. One of the other airplanes - the one with the Warp was
> extremely light at 604 lbs empty but was similar to the GSC in economy -
> tube gear, different fairings. The big change came in when the GSC and
> light Warp went to the PowerFin. Even after lots of time trying to find
> the most optimum pitch, a major drop off in cruise, but after trimming the
> inch of each blade climbed like you wouldn't believe with marginal
> improvement in cruise. Eventually the one went back to his GSC and then
> to the cockpit adjustable IVO for significantly improved performance and
> the other to the Warp.
>
> What does this all mean, who knows for sure. The impression is that Warp
> will improve on the GSC, most definitely on the PowerFin and the IVO the
> best if you don't mind dealing with the complexity.
>
> Lowell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <RRTRACK@aol.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:15 AM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Best prop was: Fuel consumption based on
> gallons per hour
>
>
>>I would like to see a comparison between WD and the GSC. I have a three
>> blade GSC on my Kitfox 5 with the UL 912. Sure like the looks of it, but
>> does it
>> perform?
>> Mark
>> Wisconsin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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