---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/29/07: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:50 AM - Re: Rustoleum? (n85ae) 2. 06:54 AM - Re: Re: Rustoleum? (Aerobatics@aol.com) 3. 06:58 AM - Re: Gap seals (n85ae) 4. 07:05 AM - Re: Gap seals (kitfoxmike) 5. 08:06 AM - Re: LANDING GEAR (tc9008@aol.com) 6. 09:45 AM - Is swimming off topic? (Randy Daughenbaugh) 7. 02:22 PM - Re: Re: Gap seals (kirk hull) 8. 03:29 PM - Re: Gap seals (kitfoxmike) 9. 03:36 PM - Re: Gap seals (kitfoxmike) 10. 04:28 PM - Re: Re: Gap seals (kirk hull) 11. 04:36 PM - Re: Gap seals (kitfoxmike) 12. 05:07 PM - Re: Re: Gap seals (Dan Billingsley) 13. 06:59 PM - Re: Is swimming off topic? (W & R Beck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:34 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Rustoleum? From: "n85ae" You can paint over polyfiber stuff with Rustoleum, however, I'll buy the beer if you let me to come over to watch you try polyfiber'ing over Rustoleum. :) IF you used Rustoleum on your parts, and then tried to attach fabric with polytack you would find out fast that it is not very compatible. I use Rustoleum a lot for stuff I weld, etc. It is great paint, and quite durable for spraycan paint. The way I remove it from stuff for welding, etc. Is with MEK. Regards, Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=103642#103642 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:11 AM PST US From: Aerobatics@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Rustoleum? In a message dated 3/29/2007 8:51:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time, n85ae@yahoo.com writes: You can paint over polyfiber stuff with Rustoleum, however, I'll buy the beer if you let me to come over to watch you try polyfiber'ing over Rustoleum. :) IF you used Rustoleum on your parts, and then tried to attach fabric with polytack you would find out fast that it is not very compatible. I use Rustoleum a lot for stuff I weld, etc. It is great paint, and quite durable for spraycan paint. The way I remove it from stuff for welding, etc. Is with MEK. Regards, Jeff hmmm never tried it UNDER poly good to know! just tried it over.. Dave if you come over will you help LOL ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:58:24 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Gap seals From: "n85ae" I would imagine the best way to do gap seals would be the way ACA does on the Citabria's, etc. Which would be to bond a small tube to the leading edge of the elevator and then fabric over it. If I did mine over again, and were I to do a gap seal that's how I think I would do it. Basically you would take a small diameter tube, slightly smaller in diameter than the gap between the elevator and the stab. Then bond it to the tube on the elevator LE between the hinge points. Then fabric over it. Sort of like this (end view of elevator) "o=====Oo" but with the small tube centered between the hinges. Jeff Hays Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=103645#103645 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:37 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Gap seals From: "kitfoxmike" great idea on the pinking tape, I was going to redu mine, I think that is what I'm going to do. -------- kitfoxmike model IV, 1200 speedster 912ul Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=103647#103647 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:06:50 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: LANDING GEAR From: tc9008@aol.com I am interested in the 8" wheels . Do they have the brake drums? Travis -----Original Message----- From: neflyer48@cableone.net Sent: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:04 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: LANDING GEAR I have a pair of 8" Matco wheels with tires for a tube gear that I would like to sell. I switched to a Grove gear with 6" wheels on my Model 3. Email me at neflyer48@cableone.net or call 402 640 7258. Jerry Kohles Norfolk Ne. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim_and_Lucy Chuk" Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: LANDING GEAR > > Sorry I don't need the "legs" what I do need are the hubs and wheels or > even just another set of wheels. They could be either 6" or 8" rims as > long as they bolt to the Kitfox 6 bolt hubs. Anyone know of a source? > Thanks, Jim Chuk > > >>From: "Leroy Kopecky" >>To: >>Subject: Kitfox-List: LANDING GEAR >>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:07:58 -0600 >> >>I'm trying to rid myself of some extra parts. I have a pair of "like new" >>landing gear without wheels or axles. They're already primed and painted. >>They even have fairings. The gear are for a taildragger, I just don't >>need them. If anyone could use a great pair of "legs" for your kitfox >>I'll give them away for $250. Call me at 262.483.7757 or email me at >>kopecky@milwpc.com. >> >>I hope I'm not breaking any rules by "advertising". I'm just trying to >>share parts that I really don't need. >> >>DO NOT ARCHIVE >> >> >>LeRoy >>Wisconsin >>KFClassicIV > > _________________________________________________________________ > The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. > http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600&bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE > > > > > > > > -- > 2:31 PM > > ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:45:18 AM PST US From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" Subject: Kitfox-List: Is swimming off topic? Swim through the air! Check this out. http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=979#sim Way cool! Randy ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:22:25 PM PST US From: "kirk hull" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Gap seals Thanks does it help much with low speed landings? When I use full flaps for landing I don't have enough control to keep the nose up at the 3 point attitude. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Thompson Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:11 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Gap seals Hi Kirk,I made my own gap seals on my kitfox 4 and they work great,after talking with the group I decided to do mine with 3" wide pinking tape and repaint my fabric on the tail,just a little poly tac and some pinking fabric and it makes a nice looking pro job.....heres a pic..... hopes it helps you out....MarkN61AC > [Original Message] > From: kirk hull > To: > Date: 3/25/2007 7:51:34 PM > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Gap seals > > > Can you post pics of the gap seal and any details on how you made them > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of john beirne > Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:56 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Gap seals > > > I fitted the elevator gap seals as suggested previously but I didnC"b,b"t get a chance to test fly the aircraft until this weekend due to weather and work commitments however I have flown five hours over the weekend and what a difference it makes to the flare and landing rollout C"b,b ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:29:53 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Gap seals From: "kitfoxmike" I guess the question would be, do you need that much flaps. I can land short with no flaps and roll out at most 300 ft. Landing with no flaps is a lot of fun, no stress on the arm, pulling back. Generally when I land slow, lets say 55-60mph over the numbers and then at 5 ft off the runway I flair and add just a touch of throttle the tail will hit first. So I have plenty of elevator. When I do wheel landings I go about 5mph faster and let it set ever so nicely that I usually don't know I'm down, I glance at the wheels to see that their moving, then I drop the power and the tail comes down nice and easy. When lifting off I get possitive control on the elevator and responds very nicely. Sealing the gaps are well worth it. -------- kitfoxmike model IV, 1200 speedster 912ul Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=103759#103759 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:36:42 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Gap seals From: "kitfoxmike" Oh! another tip on landing. When the runway gets turbulant, take and move the stick back and forward slightly, this really stabalizes things and helps bring the craft down to the ground without all the jumpy altitude loss, same with the rudder pedals, dance on them left and right. This will give you a real nice landing while other are all over the place trying to hit center line. -------- kitfoxmike model IV, 1200 speedster 912ul Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=103763#103763 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:28:23 PM PST US From: "kirk hull" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Gap seals I'm just getting use to not having the training wheel on the front. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kitfoxmike Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:29 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Gap seals I guess the question would be, do you need that much flaps. I can land short with no flaps and roll out at most 300 ft. Landing with no flaps is a lot of fun, no stress on the arm, pulling back. Generally when I land slow, lets say 55-60mph over the numbers and then at 5 ft off the runway I flair and add just a touch of throttle the tail will hit first. So I have plenty of elevator. When I do wheel landings I go about 5mph faster and let it set ever so nicely that I usually don't know I'm down, I glance at the wheels to see that their moving, then I drop the power and the tail comes down nice and easy. When lifting off I get possitive control on the elevator and responds very nicely. Sealing the gaps are well worth it. -------- kitfoxmike model IV, 1200 speedster 912ul Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=103759#103759 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:36:14 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Gap seals From: "kitfoxmike" believe it or not, I'm building an rv7a, so I guess I'm going back. I'm looking forward to having a nose wheel. Then again, I won't give up my tail wheel, I love it. I'll still fly the 7a the same way, and hang the nose in the air on landing until it has to come down. Oh and less flaps in windy conditions. -------- kitfoxmike model IV, 1200 speedster 912ul Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=103774#103774 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:01 PM PST US From: Dan Billingsley Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Gap seals Go Mike...The 7-A has been my dream machine for several years. You will have the best of both worlds. I flew to Oshkosh last year in a buddy's 6-A that he finished in Feb of 06...What a time machine from Arizona. Did it in 8.5 hours. Still working on my KF IV though...work gets in the way too much :>) How far along are you on the RV? Dan, Mesa http://www.azshowersolutions.com/Kitfox1.html kitfoxmike wrote: believe it or not, I'm building an rv7a, so I guess I'm going back. I'm looking forward to having a nose wheel. Then again, I won't give up my tail wheel, I love it. I'll still fly the 7a the same way, and hang the nose in the air on landing until it has to come down. Oh and less flaps in windy conditions. -------- kitfoxmike model IV, 1200 speedster 912ul Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=103774#103774 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:59:33 PM PST US From: "W & R Beck" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Is swimming off topic? Sure it's off topic, but it's a GOOD off topic. Very interesting concept but probably doomed for all of the reasons lighter-than-air forever remains a kind of footnote in aviation. Thanks for the post. RB do not archive > Swim through the air! Check this out. > > http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=979#sim > > Way cool! > > Randy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.