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1. 12:53 AM - Re: Trimming Acrylic Windshield (Michael Gibbs)
2. 01:53 AM - Re: Kitfox List Admin Retirement (Don Smythe)
3. 03:22 AM - Re: Locktite on spinner bolt. (Michel Verheughe)
4. 07:00 AM - Re: Locktite on spinner bolt. (Jose M. Toro)
5. 07:03 AM - Looking for a Kitfox (Randy Tavishati)
6. 07:12 AM - Re: Kitfox powder coat surface rusting?? (A Smith)
7. 07:21 AM - Re: loctite on spinner bolt (Clem Nichols)
8. 07:32 AM - Re: Re: loctite on spinner bolt ()
9. 07:34 AM - Kitfox List Admin Retirement (Fred Shiple)
10. 08:26 AM - Re: Kitfox List Admin Retirement (Guy Buchanan)
11. 08:26 AM - Re: Locktite on spinner bolt. (Guy Buchanan)
12. 08:49 AM - CCI VG's on the Avid Flyer STOL (fox5flyer)
13. 09:01 AM - Re: Looking for a Kitfox (Kenneth and Alice Jones)
14. 10:15 AM - Re: Kitfox powder coat surface rusting?? (Randy Daughenbaugh)
15. 10:18 AM - Re: Kitfox powder coat surface rusting?? (Jerry Liles)
16. 10:20 AM - Re: CCI VG's on the Avid Flyer STOL (Larry Martin)
17. 11:13 AM - Kitfox Classic IV For Sale (Paul)
18. 11:57 AM - Not going to Sun-n-Fun (jdmcbean)
19. 12:01 PM - Re: loctite on spinner bolt (kitfoxmike)
20. 01:41 PM - Re: Kitfox List Admin Retirement (GONER752@aol.com)
21. 01:44 PM - Re: Locktite on spinner bolt. (Michel Verheughe)
22. 01:57 PM - Re: Locktite on spinner bolt. (GONER752@aol.com)
23. 02:30 PM - Re: Looking for a Kitfox (Glenn Horne)
24. 03:00 PM - Re: Looking for a Kitfox (randyta@comcast.net (Randy))
25. 03:04 PM - Re: Locktite on spinner bolt. (Lynn Matteson)
26. 03:16 PM - Re: Looking for a Kitfox (Don Smythe)
27. 04:10 PM - Re: Looking for a Kitfox (randyta@comcast.net (Randy))
28. 04:10 PM - Re: Re: CCI VG's on the Avid Flyer STOL (Randy Daughenbaugh)
29. 05:23 PM - Re: New List administrators coming on board (Noel Loveys)
30. 05:36 PM - Re: New List administrators coming on board (Don Smythe)
31. 05:38 PM - Re: Kitfox powder coat surface rusting?? (Noel Loveys)
32. 05:42 PM - Re: Kitfox List Admin Retirement (Noel Loveys)
33. 06:18 PM - Re: Not going to Sun-n-Fun (kurt schrader)
34. 06:51 PM - Re: Re: CCI VG's on the Avid Flyer STOL (kurt schrader)
35. 07:02 PM - Re: CCI VG's on the Avid Flyer STOL (kurt schrader)
36. 07:10 PM - Re: Kitfox 5 Flight tests (kurt schrader)
37. 08:48 PM - Re: Locktite on spinner bolt. (Rexinator)
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming Acrylic Windshield |
Larry sez:
>That is interesting. I wonder how many different brands they used.
>Mine is a 4-1200. Is yours also? Can't remember when but seems like
>Aug 92.
Yes, mine was a IV-1200. We purchased the kit around that same time frame.
Mike G.
N728KF
>>What ser # was yours? Mine is (I think) 1805. We must be pretty close
>>together.
>
> Mine original Model IV was serial number 1803 and it came with Lexan.
>
> Mike G.
> N728KF
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox List Admin Retirement |
Don and Deke,
It's been a long and good journey. Don, I met you once at S-N-F
(you don't remember that) and Deke, I remember when your name used to be
Darrel. Thanks to both of you for all your hard work.
Don Smythe
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| Subject: | Locktite on spinner bolt. |
While on the subject of spinners ... I have a Jabiru engine with a Jabiru prop
and a Jabiru spinner; glassfiber with six screws. It works fine but when I see
it with the engine at idle, I can see it wobbling. So, I try to get it in-line
with the help of a reference stick, a pencil line, marking the "offending" side,
loosening the screws (the holes in the glassfiber are a little bit greater
for that purpose) moving slightly the spinner, then screw again.
But I never manage to get it perfect, it always wobbles a bit, however I work on
it. I remove the spinner about 4 times per year, to check the prop bolts torquing.
Do your spinner spin perfectly smooth or do you also have a slight wobble? Thanks.
While I am at it:
A big cheer for the departing list moderators and another one for the new ones!
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Locktite on spinner bolt. |
Hola Michel:
When I had the 582, my spinner also had a slight wobble. That never was a problem!
saludos!
Jos
----- Original Message ----
From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 6:21:06 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Locktite on spinner bolt.
While on the subject of spinners ... I have a Jabiru engine with a Jabiru prop
and a Jabiru spinner; glassfiber with six screws. It works fine but when I see
it with the engine at idle, I can see it wobbling. So, I try to get it in-line
with the help of a reference stick, a pencil line, marking the "offending" side,
loosening the screws (the holes in the glassfiber are a little bit greater
for that purpose) moving slightly the spinner, then screw again.
But I never manage to get it perfect, it always wobbles a bit, however I work on
it. I remove the spinner about 4 times per year, to check the prop bolts torquing.
Do your spinner spin perfectly smooth or do you also have a slight wobble? Thanks.
While I am at it:
A big cheer for the departing list moderators and another one for the new ones!
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Looking for a Kitfox |
Morning Group,
I'm new to the list and live in VA. I'm looking for a Kitfox model 4 or
later and if you are thinking about parting with yours or know of
someone that is, I would appreciate an E-mail.
Thanks for your help.
Randy
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox powder coat surface rusting?? |
Powder coat rusting??? Not unless it has contaminates in it or is
coming up from underneath it or migrated from some other area. This has
to be checked soon. See if it will clean off and then check for pin
holes where it is coming up through. I have used a product called Rust
Fix. It does a chemical thing with the rust and turns black, works good
on my truck rebuild. Probably not good with structural parts. With the
info you have given that is all I have.
Albert
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| Subject: | Re: loctite on spinner bolt |
Personally I have never used any type of loctite on my spinner bolt, and
it has never been a problem. My prop is also a left-turning one. If
you feel that you must use loctite, then use the blue rather than the
red. Once it's set up the red can be loosened only by heating it, and I
don't think you want to put a torch to your spinner.
Clem Nichols
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| Subject: | Re: loctite on spinner bolt |
I am pretty sure UHS calls for blue locktite on the spinnersi have
installed.
http://uhsspinners.com/index.html
Don't have the sheet in front of me though.
They do make a class spinner and are locally near me .
That being said , I have not used loctite on some other spinners and
never had an issue.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Clem Nichols
To: kitfox list
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:21 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: loctite on spinner bolt
Personally I have never used any type of loctite on my spinner bolt,
and it has never been a problem. My prop is also a left-turning one.
If you feel that you must use loctite, then use the blue rather than the
red. Once it's set up the red can be loosened only by heating it, and I
don't think you want to put a torch to your spinner.
Clem Nichols
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| Subject: | Kitfox List Admin Retirement |
Deke and Don,
Thanks for your time and efforts over the years. You did good!
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox List Admin Retirement |
At 06:16 PM 4/12/2007, you wrote:
>Shortly you'll be receiving an introduction letter from long-time
>list members Guy Buchanan and Michael Gibbs as new list administrators.
Wow. I guess the cat's out of the bag. I guess I'd better figure out
how all this stuff works! I've got my uniform, boots, and billy; all
that's left on order is the e-Tazer. After Michael and I come to
agreement we'll be sending out the new list of rules, punishments and
fines for you miscreants.
Crack! Snap! <Hysterical laughter>
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Locktite on spinner bolt. |
At 03:21 AM 4/13/2007, you wrote:
>Do your spinner spin perfectly smooth or do you also have a slight
>wobble? Thanks.
I have a 10" UHS fiberglass spinner. The tip runs true, but the
trailing edge wobbles all over. I don't think the mounting flange was
tooled very well.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | CCI VG's on the Avid Flyer STOL |
Larry, this is one some of the most well written data that I've seen yet
regarding VGs and is exactly what I've been waiting to see before I make
the move to installing some on my S5. One thing, you stated you had a
ten mph increase in cruise with just the VGs on the HZ. What happened
when you installed them on the wings? How, if any, did it affect your
cruise airspeed?
Great report and one that I'm definitely keeping.
Deke
CCI VG's on the Avid Flyer STOL
This is a report of my findings using CCI VG's on the Avid Flyer STOL
wing aircraft.
Background:
The aircraft is an Avid Flyer TD STOL wing with a Rotax 582, 3:1
gearbox, Culver 74x48 prop. Built according to the kit/plans with no
modifications except for "Grove" landing gear. (heavier) Published
allowable center of gravity is 11.185 to 16.5. This aircraft was at
13.5". Designed stall speed at approximately 900lbs in flight weight is
32.5 mph.
...snip
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a Kitfox |
Hi Randy:
I suggest you look at Barnstormers.com. Lots of IV's there
Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Tavishati
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:03 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Looking for a Kitfox
Morning Group,
I'm new to the list and live in VA. I'm looking for a Kitfox model 4
or later and if you are thinking about parting with yours or know of
someone that is, I would appreciate an E-mail.
Thanks for your help.
Randy
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| Subject: | Kitfox powder coat surface rusting?? |
Albert,
I was thinking the same thing.
George, are you sure it is power coating and not just a paint?
Randy
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A Smith
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox powder coat surface rusting??
Powder coat rusting??? Not unless it has contaminates in it or is coming up
from underneath it or migrated from some other area. This has to be checked
soon. See if it will clean off and then check for pin holes where it is
coming up through. I have used a product called Rust Fix. It does a chemical
thing with the rust and turns black, works good on my truck rebuild.
Probably not good with structural parts. With the info you have given that
is all I have.
Albert
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox powder coat surface rusting?? |
A powder coat works to prevent rusting by providing a barrier to Oxygen
. It otherwise has no antirust capabilities such as is provided by
chromate epoxy paints. If powder coat is applied over rust, or is too
thin, or incomplete, or the barrier is broken rust will progress quite
happily beneath the powder coat. The only thing you can do is remove
the powder coat, remove the rust, apply a phosphate conversion coating
to take care of any residual corrosion in pits, and paint with a
corrosion inhibiting paint.
Jerry Liles
>====================================
>
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| Subject: | Re: CCI VG's on the Avid Flyer STOL |
Deke,
The cruise speed remained +10 with the vgs on the wing. I usually
cruise (stol wing - no where to go) at 5400 rpm (582/3:1 box) and I
always had a comfortable 74 ias. Now, I can hold 74 with only 4900-5000
rpm. Setting 5400 puts it at 85 ias, but with the stol wing, the drag
is already starting to build at this speed. The gain in speed comes
from the tail now doing its job, and allowing the wing to do its.
Larry
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| Subject: | Kitfox Classic IV For Sale |
I am passing in the following email for anyone who may be interested.
Kitfox Kit For Sale:
My wife and I have a Kitfox IV 1200 project that needs a new home.
We purchased ser# 1724 in 1992 for $15,138 and have not progressed past
roughing in the wings. We hope to find an EAA'er that would like to
acquire this project.
Additional info:
Powder coated - blue
2 - 13 gal wing tanks
Additional components: altimeter
compass
hourmeter
quad gauge
slid-skid indicator
tachometer-Rotax 912
vertical speed indicator
ELT
dual brakes
If anyone in your chapter has an interest or would like more info:
Phil & Nancy Ebert
(763) 519-0895
pnebert@msn.com <mailto:pnebert@msn.com>
$5,000 to the 1st respondent.
Thanks,
Phil Ebert
EAA #390399
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| Subject: | Not going to Sun-n-Fun |
Hey guys Just thought I would attach the latest going out for release
Thanks for your support and make sure to take a look at the Airshow
schedule.. Hope to see you soon.
The Factory Fly-in is scheduled for September 1st Labor Day weekend.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
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| Subject: | Re: loctite on spinner bolt |
If this is the spinner that has a single bolt on the front, I would say yes indeedy
you need locktite on the bolt. I have that type on the IVO prop that I just
put on and the instructions say locktite and torque to 35inch pounds, right,
no way, I went to 100 inch and used red locktite. Oh and if you haven't had
a spinner come off, wait until one does come off, I personally have had this
happen, thought it was a bird and until I landed and found the spinner gone and
two blades wiped. Locktite and torque and check regularly. After all anything
that is bolted on the airplane needs to be installed as best as can be.
After all you are up in air not on the ground traveling along.
--------
kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox List Admin Retirement |
Deke and Don,
All too often it is the "behind the scenes" people that do the most work
and receive the least thanks. So, from me, thank you both. I hope you both will
continue to contribute to the list, as it has become (imho) the "go to"
place for all questions Kitfox. And then some.:-) It is nice to know that no
matter what one comes across, from a mod.1 to a mod.7, someone on the list has
the answer. You can be proud of what you have accomplished here. Admittedly, I
receive far more from the list than I contribute, but that's because I'm
still wet behind the ears with my Kitfox. I wish you both the best of luck and
future success.
Best Regards,
Greg Gerace
375KL
Mod 2
582
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| Subject: | Re: Locktite on spinner bolt. |
Thanks for your replies, Jose and Guy.
On Apr 13, 2007, at 5:24 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
> I don't think the mounting flange was tooled very well.
Hum, thinking of it, my mounting flange is also glassfiber and maybe it
is not too well centred either. I didn't think of that. Will check.
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Locktite on spinner bolt. |
Michel,
Just a thought here. Have you tried this. Remove the spinner and place it
big end down on a flat surface, then lay a pencil on the surface( you may have
to block up the pencil to the location of the holes) and then simply slide
the pencil on the surface as you draw a line around the spinner. That should
give you an accurate "reference" line for the screws. Providing of course the
spinner is symmetrical in relation to it's base,or big end.
Regards,
Greg G.
375KL
Mod 2
582
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a Kitfox |
Got a Model II for sale. Suffolk, Va.
Glenn Horne
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Tavishati
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:03 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Looking for a Kitfox
Morning Group,
I'm new to the list and live in VA. I'm looking for a Kitfox model 4
or later and if you are thinking about parting with yours or know of
someone that is, I would appreciate an E-mail.
Thanks for your help.
Randy
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a Kitfox |
Thanks for responding Glenn but I'm looking for a model 4 or later.
Randy
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From: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net>
Got a Model II for sale. Suffolk, Va.
Glenn Horne
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Tavishati
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:03 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Looking for a Kitfox
Morning Group,
I'm new to the list and live in VA. I'm looking for a Kitfox model 4 or later
and if you are thinking about parting with yours or know of someone that is, I
would appreciate an E-mail.
Thanks for your help.
Randy
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<DIV>Thanks for responding Glenn but I'm looking for a model 4 or later.</DIV>
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<DIV>Randy</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Got a Model II for sale. Suffolk, Va.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Morning Group,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm new to the list and live in VA. I'm looking
for a Kitfox model 4 or later and if you are thinking about parting with yours
or know of someone that is, I would appreciate an E-mail.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for your help.</FONT></DIV>
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| Subject: | Re: Locktite on spinner bolt. |
Michel and others-
I mounted my mounting flange in the lathe and made a fine cut on the
flange so as to minimize the runout. I couldn't take much off, as the
fiberglass is thin.
Lynn
On Apr 13, 2007, at 4:44 PM, Michel Verheughe wrote:
>
> Thanks for your replies, Jose and Guy.
>
> On Apr 13, 2007, at 5:24 PM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
>> I don't think the mounting flange was tooled very well.
>
> Hum, thinking of it, my mounting flange is also glassfiber and
> maybe it is not too well centred either. I didn't think of that.
> Will check.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a Kitfox |
Randy,
Did you get my email concerning my Classic IV?
Don Smythe
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----- Original Message -----
From: Randy
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Looking for a Kitfox
Thanks for responding Glenn but I'm looking for a model 4 or later.
Randy
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Glenn Horne" <glennflys@verizon.net>
Got a Model II for sale. Suffolk, Va.
Glenn Horne
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Tavishati
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:03 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Looking for a Kitfox
Morning Group,
I'm new to the list and live in VA. I'm looking for a Kitfox
model 4 or later and if you are thinking about parting with yours or
know of someone that is, I would appreciate an E-mail.
Thanks for your help.
Randy
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a Kitfox |
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| Subject: | Re: CCI VG's on the Avid Flyer STOL |
Larry,
Thanks for the good info. I have been waiting on VG's until I was pretty
familiar with my plane. Your great report has got me going.
Randy
Do not archive
.
_____
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Martin
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:11 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: CCI VG's on the Avid Flyer STOL
Deke,
The cruise speed remained +10 with the vgs on the wing. I usually cruise
(stol wing - no where to go) at 5400 rpm (582/3:1 box) and I always had a
comfortable 74 ias. Now, I can hold 74 with only 4900-5000 rpm. Setting
5400 puts it at 85 ias, but with the stol wing, the drag is already starting
to build at this speed. The gain in speed comes from the tail now doing its
job, and allowing the wing to do its.
Larry
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| Subject: | New List administrators coming on board |
Said with a touch of class. Stay in touch.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Don Pearsall
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:19 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: New List administrators coming on board
>
>
> <donpearsall@comcast.net>
>
> After 13 years of being on the Kitfox List, being banned from
> the Kitfox
> List and then ending up moderating the Kitfox list I have
> decided to turn my
> job over to Michael Gibbs, a longtime member and contributor
> of the list. I
> have enjoyed every day of communicating with all the members
> here and it has
> been an enormous help to me both in building a Kitfox as well
> as making good
> friends around the world. Through the list I was able to
> speak with and get
> to know 100's of people that I would never have otherwise
> been aware of. I
> am sure it is the same with you too.
>
> The List has gone through many changes. The founding member,
> Jim Simmons of
> Boulder, CO first hosted the site through colorado.edu, then
> switched to his
> internet provider sni.net, and then I took over the hosting
> job and hosted
> the list through sportflight.com. In 2003, Deke and I made
> the hard decision
> to move the list to Matronics so we could have a more
> professional hosting
> service and that is where the list resides now.
>
> If you want to take a trip down memory lane, all the list
> messages are still
> available. You can view the messages from 1994 - 2000 through
> my website
> http://sportflight.com/archives/. From year 2000 to 2003 you
> can view the
> messages via a Yahoo archive at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitfoxlist/,
> and of course all messages from 2003 to present are available
> here on the
> Matronics site.
>
> I want to specifically thank Deke Morisse for
> co-administering the list. He
> has spent 100's of hours over the years helping monitor the
> list and being
> pro-active in preventing problems. He has done this for no
> other reward than
> to make the list available for all members. Thanks Deke!
>
> Don Pearsall
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New List administrators coming on board |
Noel,
You forgot "Do Not Archive". These new guys are going to be tough as
nails. Those OLD guys were getting lazy and laid back.
Don Smythe
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 8:22 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: New List administrators coming on board
>
> Said with a touch of class. Stay in touch.
>
> Noel
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> Don Pearsall
>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:19 PM
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Kitfox-List: New List administrators coming on board
>>
>>
>> <donpearsall@comcast.net>
>>
>> After 13 years of being on the Kitfox List, being banned from
>> the Kitfox
>> List and then ending up moderating the Kitfox list I have
>> decided to turn my
>> job over to Michael Gibbs, a longtime member and contributor
>> of the list. I
>> have enjoyed every day of communicating with all the members
>> here and it has
>> been an enormous help to me both in building a Kitfox as well
>> as making good
>> friends around the world. Through the list I was able to
>> speak with and get
>> to know 100's of people that I would never have otherwise
>> been aware of. I
>> am sure it is the same with you too.
>>
>> The List has gone through many changes. The founding member,
>> Jim Simmons of
>> Boulder, CO first hosted the site through colorado.edu, then
>> switched to his
>> internet provider sni.net, and then I took over the hosting
>> job and hosted
>> the list through sportflight.com. In 2003, Deke and I made
>> the hard decision
>> to move the list to Matronics so we could have a more
>> professional hosting
>> service and that is where the list resides now.
>>
>> If you want to take a trip down memory lane, all the list
>> messages are still
>> available. You can view the messages from 1994 - 2000 through
>> my website
>> http://sportflight.com/archives/. From year 2000 to 2003 you
>> can view the
>> messages via a Yahoo archive at
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kitfoxlist/,
>> and of course all messages from 2003 to present are available
>> here on the
>> Matronics site.
>>
>> I want to specifically thank Deke Morisse for
>> co-administering the list. He
>> has spent 100's of hours over the years helping monitor the
>> list and being
>> pro-active in preventing problems. He has done this for no
>> other reward than
>> to make the list available for all members. Thanks Deke!
>>
>> Don Pearsall
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Kitfox powder coat surface rusting?? |
Well stated Jerry. The only thing I would like to add is rusting usually
requires an electrolyte like water or even water vapour. Ferrous metals
kept in a really dry location (say Nevada) won't rust without the aid of a
humidifier in the hangar. With any miniscule amount of moisture in the air
and microscopic cracks in the powder coat filiform corrosion will creep
under the "good" coating. The sooner corrective action is taken the better.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Jerry Liles
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 2:48 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox powder coat surface rusting??
>
>
>
> A powder coat works to prevent rusting by providing a barrier
> to Oxygen
> . It otherwise has no antirust capabilities such as is provided by
> chromate epoxy paints. If powder coat is applied over rust,
> or is too
> thin, or incomplete, or the barrier is broken rust will
> progress quite
> happily beneath the powder coat. The only thing you can do is remove
> the powder coat, remove the rust, apply a phosphate
> conversion coating
> to take care of any residual corrosion in pits, and paint with a
> corrosion inhibiting paint.
>
> Jerry Liles
>
>
> >====================================
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Kitfox List Admin Retirement |
Thanks to you and Don.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:47 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox List Admin Retirement
For those of you out there who aren't aware of it, Don Pearsall and I
have
been the co-administrators for the kitfox for a lot of years. After
long
period of discussions between Don and I, I'm posting this message to
announce my retirement from the duties of Kitfox List Administration.
Many
years ago Don and I simultaneously assumed the management of the list.
Previous to that Don hosted it and Jim Crowder was the moderator. It
even
goes much farther back than that, but that's another story. It's been a
very rewarding job that has led us through several challenges, including
the
complete loss of list functions due to server problems, changes to
hosting
entities, and finally to where we made the decision to move to Matt
Dralle's
Matronics where things have been more automated and very stable. It was
a
lot of work making the changes, but the result was worth the effort.
It was a couple of years ago that Don and I started talking about
retiring.
Don sold his project a few years ago and he no longer has a Kitfox and
has
been spending his time, money, and effort as list admin out of the
kindness
of his heart. I'm still flying my Kitfox and have no immediate
intention of
changing that, but I've been doing this for a very long time and we've
both
decided that the time has come for us to gracefully bow out and leave
the
administrative functions to some new blood.
Shortly you'll be receiving an introduction letter from long-time list
members Guy Buchanan and Michael Gibbs as new list administrators.
They're
both very capable guys and I have no doubt that they'll do an effective
and
fair job in the management process. I have no doubt that you will all
give
them the full support that you've given to Don and I.
Best Regards,
Deke Morisse
S5
NE Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: Not going to Sun-n-Fun |
OOOOOOOOOOOkkkkkkkkkkk John,
Sorry we won't get to see you at Sun&Fun, but really
gald it is due to business going well. Hope the
hangar is filled with the smell of success.
Kurt S.
Do not archive
--- jdmcbean <jdmcbean@cableone.net> wrote:
> Hey guys Just thought I would attach the latest
> going out for release
>
> Thanks for your support and make sure to take a look
> at the Airshow
> schedule.. Hope to see you soon.
>
> The Factory Fly-in is scheduled for September 1st
> Labor Day weekend.
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> 208.337.5111
> www.kitfoxaircraft.com
> "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
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| Subject: | Re: CCI VG's on the Avid Flyer STOL |
I am keeping a copy of your report too Larry. Great
job! You got the kind of gains VG's should provide,
though it seems most were gained from your tail
installation.
I think VG's can provide a significant drag reduction
on a lot of planes, homebuilts and store bought, if we
just experimented more with them. Looking at a
friend's Aztec made me think those engine cowls have
to be draggy and could use VG's to gain some speed.
I might try some on my lower cowling to enhance
cooling too.
These little devices can have a lot of beneficial
applications.
Thanks for the report,
Kurt S. S-5
--- Larry Martin <CrownLJ@verizon.net> wrote:
> Deke,
>
> The cruise speed remained +10 with the vgs on the
> wing. I usually cruise (stol wing - no where to go)
> at 5400 rpm (582/3:1 box) and I always had a
> comfortable 74 ias. Now, I can hold 74 with only
> 4900-5000 rpm. Setting 5400 puts it at 85 ias, but
> with the stol wing, the drag is already starting to
> build at this speed. The gain in speed comes from
> the tail now doing its job, and allowing the wing to
> do its.
>
> Larry
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| Subject: | Re: CCI VG's on the Avid Flyer STOL |
I figured as much Clem,
But it was an opportunity to write you again, if just
to bug you, ha ha.
My computer is screwing up lately too. One of my
cleanup programs seems to be attacking my word
processor and a few other things it thinks are bad. I
am trying to not to lose documents over it, but have
no time to fix it right now.
My cousin and her hubby just left after being here for
4 days. I needed the entertainment break, but now I
am behind and have to catch up again. The good news
is the house got cleaned and better organized. The
bad news is I slept on the couch because the rest of
the house isn't furnished yet. One day... I mean,
aaaa "I have a dream..."
Well, back to catching up some more. I am no where
near working on my plane yet. Poor thing. And my
flying skills are not getting excercise either. :-(
Kurt
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox 5 Flight tests |
Hi Mark,
What weight, temperature, and altitude were you
testing at?
It will be interesting to see your GPS results to
confirm speeds. I think you are probably right on the
static error, but GPS testing of the ASI will be more
accurate. The higher stall seems close to mine, but
again weights need to be close.
Kurt S. S-5
--- RRTRACK@aol.com wrote:
> After three days of flight testing my Kitfox 5
> Vixen, 912 UL, 68" three blade GSC @16.5 degrees
> pitch I am starting to get some real data to work
> with.
>
> STATIC PORT - I believe the ASI is not reading
> correctly.
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| Subject: | Re: Locktite on spinner bolt. |
Wait a sec! If that's a Aluminum spinner you don't want to use a lead
pencil right? Something about potential corrosion I think.
Rex
Colorado
GONER752@aol.com wrote:
> Michel,
> Just a thought here. Have you tried this. Remove the spinner and
> place it big end down on a flat surface, then lay a pencil on the
> surface( you may have to block up the pencil to the location of the
> holes) and then simply slide the pencil on the surface as you draw a
> line around the spinner. That should give you an accurate "reference"
> line for the screws. Providing of course the spinner is symmetrical in
> relation to it's base,or big end.
> Regards,
> Greg G.
>
> 375KL
> Mod 2
> 582
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