---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/20/07: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:35 AM - Re: Identification and spares for amphib floats (Michael Laundy) 2. 05:13 AM - 582 2 stroke oil useage (Don Smythe) 3. 05:30 AM - Re: 582 2 stroke oil useage () 4. 05:37 AM - Re: 582 2 stroke oil useage (Don Smythe) 5. 05:48 AM - Re: 582 2 stroke oil useage () 6. 06:05 AM - Re: 582 2 stroke oil useage (Clem Nichols) 7. 06:31 AM - Re: 582 2 stroke oil useage () 8. 09:16 AM - Re: 582 2 stroke oil useage (Guy Buchanan) 9. 09:31 AM - Re: 582 2 stroke oil useage (Don Smythe) 10. 09:44 AM - Re: 582 2 stroke oil useage (Don Smythe) 11. 11:26 AM - Re: 582 2 stroke oil useage (Guy Buchanan) 12. 02:48 PM - Re: 582 2 stroke oil useage (Noel Loveys) 13. 03:36 PM - Re: Re: cabin doors (Noel Loveys) 14. 06:29 PM - Re: Re: cabin doors (GONER752@aol.com) 15. 06:54 PM - Re: Re: cabin doors () 16. 08:40 PM - Re: Classic IV wing modsClassic IV wing mods (rez) 17. 11:07 PM - Re: Classic IV wing modsClassic IV wing mods (Lowell Fitt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:35:12 AM PST US From: Michael Laundy Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Identification and spares for amphib floats Dave, Many thanks for the info, and also thanks to the other guys who replied. I have got a box of bits and pieces with the floats and seem to have most of the hardware. I guess the bullwheel is the bit which goes under the pilot's seat and connects to the retract lever. The only bit which seems to be missing is the connection between the retract lever and the bull wheel. If you have a photo of how yours is set up that would sure help. Also if you can let me know if there are any particular problems in setting up the retract mechanism. I now have the web address of Matco, and I am pretty sure I can get what I need from them to refurbish the wheels and brakes. I would also be interested to see what strengthening you put on the nose wheel castoring as it looks like a weak area. If you could send me a picture of that it would be great. Many thanks Mike davef@cfisher.com wrote: Hi Mike, Your floats are Aerocet 1100s. Aerocet has ZERO to do with these anymore. Parts are scarce but your brakes are Matco if same as mine. There is a guy that bought the Old stock and has it for sale but I not sure name. I can find out the info it you like. Do you have all the gear retract hardware ? I made all of mine and the bullwheel and they are a great float. Nosewheels on them were wheelchair wheels 1.75 x 7" if i recall. I have solid rubber 6 inch wheel for nosewheels and I have welded the SS casters up with additional bracing. The nose gear wheels will limit you to the size of nosewheel that will fit as well as they are narrow. They will serve you well if you look after them. I probably have over 500 landings on grass runways alone so that may of helped mine take more of a beating than some . There are a great aerodynamic float compared to a draggy full lotus and you should have a blast with them. Hope this helps and welcome to the wonderful world of float flying with Amphibs :) I enclosed a pic of my IV Kitfox on them at my dock . Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Laundy To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 6:32 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Identification and spares for amphib floats I am enclosing a photo of my amphib floats which I am refurbishing with the intention of fitting them on my Kitfox mk 3. Can anyone identify the floats and maybe give me the address of the manufacturer, or put me in touch with anyone who may be able to supply spares. There is no manufacturing plate on the floats, the only ref no I can find is 1100AM-02L-0492 stencilled inside the port float (I guess that refers to the buoyancy) The brake manufacturer is "MATCO MFG SLC UT" I will need a new set of pads, and seals for the caliper. Other bits needing replacing are the nose wheels, and some cabling (which I can probably get made locally). If anyone has a similar set of floats I would greatly appreciate any info on how to set up the controls for the retraction of the gear, and maybe photos of the set up. many thanks Mike --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Tryit now. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:41 AM PST US From: "Don Smythe" Subject: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage I can't seem to recall how much 2 stroke oil the 582 pumps per hour. Looking for a ball park average for taxi/flight per hour. Anybody have a close average number based on some actual flight testing. Don Smythe ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:06 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage Don, A rotax 582 oil injection will use about 70 to 1 average. I think the highest it uses it 50 to 1 under full throttle. That help ? Still no oil bottle ? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Smythe To: Kitfox List Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:12 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage I can't seem to recall how much 2 stroke oil the 582 pumps per hour. Looking for a ball park average for taxi/flight per hour. Anybody have a close average number based on some actual flight testing. Don Smythe ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:37:59 AM PST US From: "Don Smythe" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage I'm looking for the actual amount of oil used not ratio's. For instance 1/2 pint per hour. I just can't find the number or get my brain working. The oil tank is on the way from John. Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: davef@cfisher.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage Don, A rotax 582 oil injection will use about 70 to 1 average. I think the highest it uses it 50 to 1 under full throttle. That help ? Still no oil bottle ? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Smythe To: Kitfox List Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:12 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage I can't seem to recall how much 2 stroke oil the 582 pumps per hour. Looking for a ball park average for taxi/flight per hour. Anybody have a close average number based on some actual flight testing. Don Smythe href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:03 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage Well since you American you might not understand litres ? 500 mil to 25 litres in US talk about 2 cups 16 oz to about 6 gallons US that close ? and that is about 50 to 1 ratio Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Smythe To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage I'm looking for the actual amount of oil used not ratio's. For instance 1/2 pint per hour. I just can't find the number or get my brain working. The oil tank is on the way from John. Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: davef@cfisher.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage Don, A rotax 582 oil injection will use about 70 to 1 average. I think the highest it uses it 50 to 1 under full throttle. That help ? Still no oil bottle ? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Smythe To: Kitfox List Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:12 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage I can't seem to recall how much 2 stroke oil the 582 pumps per hour. Looking for a ball park average for taxi/flight per hour. Anybody have a close average number based on some actual flight testing. Don Smythe href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:09 AM PST US From: "Clem Nichols" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage Don: Assuming that you use roughly 4.5 gallons of fuel per hour of which 1/70 is oil (based on a 70:1 average ratio), it figures that you will be using about 9 ounces of oil per hour. Clem Nichols Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Smythe To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:37 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage I'm looking for the actual amount of oil used not ratio's. For instance 1/2 pint per hour. I just can't find the number or get my brain working. The oil tank is on the way from John. Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: davef@cfisher.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage Don, A rotax 582 oil injection will use about 70 to 1 average. I think the highest it uses it 50 to 1 under full throttle. That help ? Still no oil bottle ? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Smythe To: Kitfox List Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:12 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage I can't seem to recall how much 2 stroke oil the 582 pumps per hour. Looking for a ball park average for taxi/flight per hour. Anybody have a close average number based on some actual flight testing. Don Smythe href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:01 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage Clem , You are right if you have fuel flow gauge to confirm . Mine runs 18 to 23 ltires per hour = 4.5 to 6 us gal a hour. I wil guess 60 to 70 to a ratio there Wide open it burn 29 to 30 lt/hour = 7 to 7.5 gal a hour.; i will guess 50 to one ratio here Simple enough. If you not sure . just use pre mix. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Clem Nichols To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage Don: Assuming that you use roughly 4.5 gallons of fuel per hour of which 1/70 is oil (based on a 70:1 average ratio), it figures that you will be using about 9 ounces of oil per hour. Clem Nichols Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Smythe To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:37 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage I'm looking for the actual amount of oil used not ratio's. For instance 1/2 pint per hour. I just can't find the number or get my brain working. The oil tank is on the way from John. Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: davef@cfisher.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage Don, A rotax 582 oil injection will use about 70 to 1 average. I think the highest it uses it 50 to 1 under full throttle. That help ? Still no oil bottle ? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Smythe To: Kitfox List Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:12 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage I can't seem to recall how much 2 stroke oil the 582 pumps per hour. Looking for a ball park average for taxi/flight per hour. Anybody have a close average number based on some actual flight testing. Don Smythe href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:16:31 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage At 05:12 AM 4/20/2007, you wrote: >I can't seem to recall how much 2 stroke oil the 582 pumps per >hour. Looking for a ball park average for taxi/flight per >hour. Anybody have a close average number based on some actual flight testing. Don, From hours 38 to 70 I kept accurate count of fuel and oil usage. During that period I averaged 2.2 hours per flight from a towered field and used, on average, 4.2 gph 100LL and 0.58 pph oil, for a ratio of 58:1. However, during my trip to Ft. Worth, (from San Diego, CA,) my average fuel use over 30.4 hours was 4.46 gph 100LL and 0.71 pph oil, for a ratio of 50:1. I did not calculate an average leg length for the Ft. Worth trip, but it was probably much closer to 4 hours per flight, with much less taxi and idle time. Thus the lower oil ratio for the Ft. Worth trip. During the Ft. Worth trip I tried to keep the RPM at or below 5900, which I estimated to be 75% power based on running at 90% of max speed, which I checked periodically during the trip. (There is a cubic relationship between power and speed.) My average speed was 89 mph over about 2681 statute miles, for a mileage of 19.8 mpg of 100LL. (I had tailwinds the whole way. The distance was estimated, not GPS actual.) I carry 27 gallons of fuel, for an estimated fuel endurance of 6.1 hours. I have the two liter Nalgene oil bottle which gives me an estimated oil endurance of 6.0 hours. I start to get worried at 4 hours and have never flown over 4.5 hours on a tank. (It's too disconcerting to watch the fuel slosh to nothing on the sight gauges!) For the Ft. Worth trip I launched with a full case of oil, (about 25 pounds,) and used all but two. It's a damn shame to use so much payload but that's the price we pay for being cheap! Hope this helps, Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:31:40 AM PST US From: "Don Smythe" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage Guy, Excellent report. Got way more information than I asked for. Thanks, Don Smythe Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Guy Buchanan To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 12:03 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage At 05:12 AM 4/20/2007, you wrote: I can't seem to recall how much 2 stroke oil the 582 pumps per hour. Looking for a ball park average for taxi/flight per hour. Anybody have a close average number based on some actual flight testing. Don, From hours 38 to 70 I kept accurate count of fuel and oil usage. During that period I averaged 2.2 hours per flight from a towered field and used, on average, 4.2 gph 100LL and 0.58 pph oil, for a ratio of 58:1. However, during my trip to Ft. Worth, (from San Diego, CA,) my average fuel use over 30.4 hours was 4.46 gph 100LL and 0.71 pph oil, for a ratio of 50:1. I did not calculate an average leg length for the Ft. Worth trip, but it was probably much closer to 4 hours per flight, with much less taxi and idle time. Thus the lower oil ratio for the Ft. Worth trip. During the Ft. Worth trip I tried to keep the RPM at or below 5900, which I estimated to be 75% power based on running at 90% of max speed, which I checked periodically during the trip. (There is a cubic relationship between power and speed.) My average speed was 89 mph over about 2681 statute miles, for a mileage of 19.8 mpg of 100LL. (I had tailwinds the whole way. The distance was estimated, not GPS actual.) I carry 27 gallons of fuel, for an estimated fuel endurance of 6.1 hours. I have the two liter Nalgene oil bottle which gives me an estimated oil endurance of 6.0 hours. I start to get worried at 4 hours and have never flown over 4.5 hours on a tank. (It's too disconcerting to watch the fuel slosh to nothing on the sight gauges!) For the Ft. Worth trip I launched with a full case of oil, (about 25 pounds,) and used all but two. It's a damn shame to use so much payload but that's the price we pay for being cheap! Hope this helps, Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:44:31 AM PST US From: "Don Smythe" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage Guy, You just reminded me of something I once noticed and mentioned on the list (long time ago). I'm going to suggest that maybe not all of your 2 liter oil tank is "useable" oil. Just something to keep in mind. The 582 oil pump system is supposed to be gravity fed only. Whether the pump has the capability of lifting oil or not, I don't know. In my installation I placed a bullet level from the pump inlet over to the poly oil tank with the tail wheel on the ground (worst case). The bullet level hit the oil tank up almost 3" from the bottom (can't remember exactly). To me, that means the last 3" of oil in that tank is below the point where gravity is doing it's job. Say you are flying along and get to the 3" level and every thing is still fine. Land, lower the tail and you just lost oil to the pump. This is just something to add to the list of things to think about. Don Smythe >>I carry 27 gallons of fuel, for an estimated fuel endurance of 6.1 hours. I have the two liter Nalgene oil bottle which gives me an estimated oil endurance of 6.0 hours. I start to get worried at 4 hours and have never>> ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:26:01 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage At 09:44 AM 4/20/2007, you wrote: >The 582 oil pump system is supposed to be gravity fed only. Whether >the pump has the capability of lifting oil or not, I don't know. In the spirit of finding out I am now looking for a working 582 oil pump I can beg or borrow to do some testing. Anyone having one or guessing someone else might have one please let me know off line. Thanks, Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:48:43 PM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage @ 4 U.S. gal / hr. just a shade over one cup per hour (.267qt/hr) 60:1 Close to 7 fl.oz./hr. @ 5 U.S. Gal./Hr. (wide open) almost right on 1/3 of a quart I think your quart is 28 Fl.oz. so that would be around 9 fl.oz. / hr. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Smythe Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 10:08 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage I'm looking for the actual amount of oil used not ratio's. For instance 1/2 pint per hour. I just can't find the number or get my brain working. The oil tank is on the way from John. Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: davef@cfisher.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage Don, A rotax 582 oil injection will use about 70 to 1 average. I think the highest it uses it 50 to 1 under full throttle. That help ? Still no oil bottle ? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Smythe Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:12 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: 582 2 stroke oil useage I can't seem to recall how much 2 stroke oil the 582 pumps per hour. Looking for a ball park average for taxi/flight per hour. Anybody have a close average number based on some actual flight testing. Don Smythe href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href "http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href "http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:36:26 PM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: cabin doors Ok now I have the pictures. The installation was done with two small pieces of angle. I used some metal (about .032") which I bent into angle. The angle is is held to the cross tube behind the pilot and to the frame of the back of the door. I put the strut on the back of the door because I fly floats and have to enter from the front. The angle extrusions are slotted With a Dremel tool right at the angle to allow them to be mounted on the tubes with small gear clamps. Every thing is out in the open where it is easy to inspect. Surprisingly none of the four gear clamps have loosened at all. The brackets have a hole drilled in them which the ball end of the two ball and socket ends is bolted through. The height of the bracket on the door is important. It should be higher than the distance of the lower bracket form the door closed position to give an over centre positive close to the door when the door is pulled down. The position of the door bracket is set to allow an almost a full closure of the strut while closing the door. This strut is 9 in. long, 10.5 in over all and has the ball and socket joints with the balls at both ends. I got this strut from a local salvage yard and have no idea what it came out of. I'm sure you can find the complete unit at an automotive supply shop if you don't have a salvage yard you can browse. The next picture is a close up of the bracket on the cross tube. It strut ball is mounted far enough into the plane so as not to interfere with the operation of the door. I put this on my door as occasionally I like to fly and always taxi with the door open. If the salvage yard had two of these struts I would have installed both of them. It has worked well for the past year or so so I guess the next thing to do is paint the brackets to make them look as if they belonged there. I'm far from a fortune teller but I do see another trip to the salvage yard for me in the near future. Removing the door is easy as there is a little metal clip that holds the socket of the strut over the ball. I just have to make sure to keep the clips with the strut. Clear as Mud?? Noel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of xfire > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 12:55 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: cabin doors > > > > > [quote="Float Flyr"]I put one on the pilot side without > drilling any holes.... I'll send a couple of pictures tomorrow. > > > > Noel > > > > -- > > > Noel, can you please send the pics to me also > > Thanks > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107902#107902 > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:29:28 PM PST US From: GONER752@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: cabin doors Noel, Thanks for posting the pic's. I've been wanting to strut the doors, but really couldn't imagine any mounts pop riveted to tubing lasting against the forces of the struts.Good job.These are keepers for me. Greg G 375KL Mod 2 582 ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:54:41 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: cabin doors Greg, I don't have lift struts but just a clip on each door and i can fly with one or both doors half open or full open. There it really no force at all on them. "pop rivets" can be extremely strong depending on the rivet and the install . Many many planes are made of alum and " pop rivets " only. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: GONER752@aol.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 9:28 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: cabin doors Noel, Thanks for posting the pic's. I've been wanting to strut the doors, but really couldn't imagine any mounts pop riveted to tubing lasting against the forces of the struts.Good job.These are keepers for me. Greg G 375KL Mod 2 582 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- See what's free at AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:40:20 PM PST US From: rez Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Classic IV wing modsClassic IV wing mods I'm a longtime lurker, this is my first post. I would like to put my KF2 in the garage for long term storage, two or three months. It won't fit, but it seems like it would be pretty easy to remove the wings. Are there any special tricks to removing the wings, or is it just finding enough people to hold it up while I remove the bolts. Jim N9065F ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:07:36 PM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Classic IV wing modsClassic IV wing mods Jim, I think you have a handle on it already from your post. Disconnecting the fuel lines and electrical if any would be the first step. The removal would be essentially the reverse of the initial wing installation. As I recall, I made a tee support for the outboard end so the bolt holes would remain concentric. Another suggestion would be to remove the bolts one at a time and replace them with a pin punch of smaller diameter so the guys lifting wouldn't have to lift for so long a time. The pin punches could be lifted out quickly,just at the time of removal. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "rez" Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:39 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Classic IV wing modsClassic IV wing mods > I'm a longtime lurker, this is my first post. I would like to put my KF2 > in the garage for long term storage, two or three months. It won't fit, > but it seems like it would be pretty easy to remove the wings. Are there > any special tricks to removing the wings, or is it just finding enough > people to hold it up while I remove the bolts. > > Jim > N9065F > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.