---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/28/07: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:49 AM - Re: Re: Signatures (Lynn Matteson) 2. 03:58 AM - Re: Re: Signatures last postd till the nonsense ceases. (Lynn Matteson) 3. 04:12 AM - Signatures (fox5flyer) 4. 04:40 AM - Signatures (Keith C.) 5. 05:39 AM - Re: Signatures (Jim Crowder) 6. 06:23 AM - Re: Re: Signatures last postd till the nonsense ceases. (Guy Buchanan) 7. 07:08 AM - Re: Keith and Cameron Park Fly-in (Lowell Fitt) 8. 09:03 AM - Re: Re: Signatures (Noel Loveys) 9. 09:08 AM - Re: Signatures (Noel Loveys) 10. 10:57 AM - Re: clear coat aeroathane (darinh) 11. 12:19 PM - Re: Re: Signatures (Lynn Matteson) 12. 12:23 PM - Re: Re: clear coat aeroathane (Guy Buchanan) 13. 02:13 PM - Re: Signatures (KITFOXZ@aol.com) 14. 03:23 PM - prop (Gerald Jantzi) 15. 03:43 PM - Re: Re: Signatures (Randy Daughenbaugh) 16. 07:14 PM - covering (jerry evans) 17. 08:01 PM - Re: Re: Signatures (Noel Loveys) 18. 08:04 PM - 912 Oil Thermostat Installed (RRTRACK@aol.com) 19. 09:14 PM - IVO IFA Prop Information (RRTRACK@aol.com) 20. 09:39 PM - Re: IVO IFA Prop Information (Rick) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:48 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Signatures I can't tell who you are aiming this reply to, because you didn't leave a snippet of the previous post, but I'll step in to say that my mail allows me to type in a signature or select a sig that I've previously entered, such as sig #1, 2, 3, or 4. It's my choice. It just happens that the lovely one you see below is my #2...enjoy. : ) Lynn Matteson Grass Lake, Michigan Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 flying w/250+ hrs do not archive On Apr 27, 2007, at 5:39 PM, xfire wrote: > > > that is fine if you want your signature on all emails you send out, > not just the ones to the list > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109615#109615 > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:58:42 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Signatures last postd till the nonsense ceases. Ever since I came on board here in Fall of 2004, most people have signed a name, some have included a Kitfox model #, and some have given an area where they live. I don't see a problem with that. Would you send your Mother a letter without signing it? Would you do any other business correspondence without letting the other person know who you are? It just seems like a civilized way to "connect" with the other members of this group...but that's just me, I guess. Lynn Matteson Grass Lake, Michigan Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 flying w/250+ hrs do not archive On Apr 27, 2007, at 10:01 PM, wrote: > > I just changed to daily digest . > this signature stuff is getting like nonsense. > I hope this new stuff is not the beginning of the end for this list. > > if you need me davef@cfisher.com > feel free to see Kitfox stuff here www.cfisher.com > > > good bye > > NO SIGNATURE > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:21 AM PST US From: "fox5flyer" Subject: Kitfox-List: Signatures I don't know about software other than Outlook Express, but it's actually very simple and I'm sure the others aren't difficult. Just go to Tools/Options/Signatures and enter the appropriate data according to the instructions. You can enter several combinations to your desire. Then when you compose a message, at the top click on "Insert" then choose and click the appropriate signature. If you only have one signature then you don't even have to choose. The actual part about placing a signature on your message takes about 5 seconds or less. Not really a big deal. Deke Morisse S5/Soob/CAP NE Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel Loveys" Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:23 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Signatures > > My point exactly ... I have four signatures loaded into Outlook and it's > getting to be a bit of a chore to copy a correspondence, close the message, > reset the signature open a new message and paste the correspondence or > delete and retype a suitable signature. I think we should soon return to > status quo with the occasional contact info. > > Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern > Campbellton, Newfoundland, Canada > Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA > Aerocet 1100s > noelloveys@yahoo.ca > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of xfire > > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 7:10 PM > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Signatures > > > > > > > > > > that is fine if you want your signature on all emails you > > send out, not just the ones to the list > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109615#109615 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:28 AM PST US From: "Keith C." Subject: Kitfox-List: Signatures Deke, Great explanation, I just did it and used it. And this from a lurker and wannabe. Do not archive Keith C. C-150, Kitfox Wannabe Sacramento, CA ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:01 AM PST US From: "Jim Crowder" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Signatures I somehow missed the posting that detailed just what was to be included in the signatures. Does the one I have used here cover the issue? I have often thought that emails would be more useful if model and engine used were included. Was there an enforcement measure besides just reminding the sender included? If so I am a little bit nervous about that. Jim Crowder S5/3300 Jabiru (Engine swap in process) North Front Range of Colorado Do Not Archive I don't know about software other than Outlook Express, but it's actually very simple and I'm sure the others aren't difficult. Just go to Tools/Options/Signatures and enter the appropriate data according to the instructions. You can enter several combinations to your desire. Then when you compose a message, at the top click on "Insert" then choose and click the appropriate signature. If you only have one signature then you don't even have to choose. The actual part about placing a signature on your message takes about 5 seconds or less. Not really a big deal. Deke Morisse S5/Soob/CAP NE Michigan ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:48 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Signatures last postd till the nonsense ceases. At 04:01 AM 4/28/2007, you wrote: >It just seems like a civilized way to "connect" with the other >members of this group...but that's just me, I guess. OK guys. Let's keep the signature thread focused on providing me the "how-to" mechanics so I can put them in a convenient place. Many of you have adopted, some have refused for reasons of privacy, and some have software that doesn't easily support multiple signatures. As it was never a "requirement" and it certainly isn't Kitfox related it shouldn't be discussed pro / con on the list. If necessary email me directly. Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:20 AM PST US From: "Lowell Fitt" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Keith and Cameron Park Fly-in Keith, You being from Sacramento and interested in Kitfox gives me just the right opportunity to remind everyone of the 9th Annual Cameron Park Kitfox Fly_in and BBQ to be held at my home in the Cameron Park residential airpark on June 9th. For flying in info or driving in info go to: http://cameronparkkitfox.com Lowell Fitt Cameron Park, CA Model IV-1200 R-912 UL Warp 1998 850 hrs. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith C." Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:39 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Signatures Deke, Great explanation, I just did it and used it. And this from a lurker and wannabe. Do not archive Keith C. C-150, Kitfox Wannabe Sacramento, CA ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:59 AM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Signatures Lynn: I know I'm going to regret this but...... Maybe the Mac has a few advantages :-) gotta love their ads. Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern Campbellton, Newfoundland, Canada Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA Aerocet 1100s noelloveys@yahoo.ca > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Lynn Matteson > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:22 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Signatures > > > > I can't tell who you are aiming this reply to, because you didn't > leave a snippet of the previous post, but I'll step in to say > that my > mail allows me to type in a signature or select a sig that I've > previously entered, such as sig #1, 2, 3, or 4. It's my choice. It > just happens that the lovely one you see below is my #2...enjoy. : ) > > > Lynn Matteson > Grass Lake, Michigan > Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 > flying w/250+ hrs > do not archive > > > On Apr 27, 2007, at 5:39 PM, xfire wrote: > > > > > > > that is fine if you want your signature on all emails you > send out, > > not just the ones to the list > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109615#109615 > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:49 AM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Signatures Thanks Deke: I gave it a try and as you can see it works in Outlook too. Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern Campbellton, Newfoundland, Canada Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA Aerocet 1100s noelloveys@yahoo.ca > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:41 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Signatures > > > > > I don't know about software other than Outlook Express, but > it's actually > very simple and I'm sure the others aren't difficult. Just go to > Tools/Options/Signatures and enter the appropriate data > according to the > instructions. You can enter several combinations to your > desire. Then when > you compose a message, at the top click on "Insert" then > choose and click > the appropriate signature. If you only have one signature > then you don't > even have to choose. The actual part about placing a > signature on your > message takes about 5 seconds or less. Not really a big deal. > > Deke Morisse > S5/Soob/CAP > NE Michigan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Noel Loveys" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:23 PM > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Signatures > > > > > > > My point exactly ... I have four signatures loaded into > Outlook and it's > > getting to be a bit of a chore to copy a correspondence, close the > message, > > reset the signature open a new message and paste the > correspondence or > > delete and retype a suitable signature. I think we should > soon return to > > status quo with the occasional contact info. > > > > Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern > > Campbellton, Newfoundland, Canada > > Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA > > Aerocet 1100s > > noelloveys@yahoo.ca > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > > > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of xfire > > > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 7:10 PM > > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Signatures > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that is fine if you want your signature on all emails you > > > send out, not just the ones to the list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109615#109615 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:57:49 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: clear coat aeroathane From: "darinh" It is my understanding that Polyfiber recommends not using a clear coat. I don't think many people use clear for fabric airplanes. In fact, my friend just had his C182 repainted by a custom shop down in Arizona and they don't clear anything unless the customer really wants it done. They did say that the aircraft finishes are made to be used without clear coat. I think the only place clear is used a lot is when appling a uncatalyzed base coat to say an auto, then clear is absolutely necesary. Darin Hawkes Series 7 (working on FWF for 914) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109725#109725 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:19:37 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Signatures Noel- The main advantage of a Mac is the virus writers don't bother with writing a virus for Macs...they'd only screw up a couple dozen users if they did, instead of millions of the other kind. : ) What ads? I'm a big TV watcher, and don't recall seeing any, or if I did they couldn't have been memorable...at least not in MY memory. Lynn Matteson Grass Lake, Michigan Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 flying w/250+ hrs do not archive On Apr 28, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Noel Loveys wrote: > > Lynn: > > I know I'm going to regret this but...... Maybe the Mac has a few > advantages :-) gotta love their ads. > > Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern > Campbellton, Newfoundland, Canada > Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA > Aerocet 1100s > noelloveys@yahoo.ca > ========================================= > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:23:33 PM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: clear coat aeroathane At 10:57 AM 4/28/2007, you wrote: >I think the only place clear is used a lot is when appling a >uncatalyzed base coat to say an auto, then clear is absolutely necesary. Some of the Oshkosh winning composite planes use clear coat to get a better final finish. They sand the base color coats, particularly at the seams, then clear coat, then sand and polish the clear coat for a "perfect" finish, free from blemishes and orange peel. On the down side I know of at least one case where the plane, a winner, came out incredibly heavy, partially as a result of all the paint. Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:13:03 PM PST US From: KITFOXZ@aol.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Signatures Hello Foxers, I'm still lurking out here from time to time. Here's my signature for now. John P. Marzluf (John Z.) Columbus, Ohio Series V Outback Out Back In The Garage) 20% Complete, Not Currently Building Do not archive ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:23:32 PM PST US From: Gerald Jantzi Subject: Kitfox-List: prop need some advice or information for prop size and pitch building older kitfox 5 1400 gross with rotax 912ul. any information will be appreciated thanks Gerry --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:43:48 PM PST US From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Signatures Microsoft Outlook lets you choose from a list. I too have 5 signatures to choose from now that I have made a Kitfox list signature. I just right click a dot that appears on every one of my emails and chose the signature I want to use. Randy Daughenbaugh, N10NH Black Hills of South Dakota, - Near Mount Rushmore Home Strip, Grass, Room in Hangar for visitors Series 5/7 (7 Firewall Forward) 912S, Warp Drive Taper Tip Gross Weight 1320 lbs, Flying since November 2004 Wow, It works! -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 10:01 AM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Signatures Lynn: I know I'm going to regret this but...... Maybe the Mac has a few advantages :-) gotta love their ads. Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern Campbellton, Newfoundland, Canada Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA Aerocet 1100s noelloveys@yahoo.ca > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Lynn Matteson > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:22 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Signatures > > > > I can't tell who you are aiming this reply to, because you didn't > leave a snippet of the previous post, but I'll step in to say > that my > mail allows me to type in a signature or select a sig that I've > previously entered, such as sig #1, 2, 3, or 4. It's my choice. It > just happens that the lovely one you see below is my #2...enjoy. : ) > > > Lynn Matteson > Grass Lake, Michigan > Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 > flying w/250+ hrs > do not archive > > > On Apr 27, 2007, at 5:39 PM, xfire wrote: > > > > > > > that is fine if you want your signature on all emails you > send out, > > not just the ones to the list > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109615#109615 > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:14:03 PM PST US From: jerry evans Subject: Kitfox-List: covering Is there a right side up on the stits Dacron or can I put ether side up? I started my covering job today and got the horizontal stab done then asked my self which side did I put on the outside of it . I rolled out the covering and put the inside of the roll on the inside of the stab. Any help thanks Jerry Evans kitfox 555 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:01:11 PM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Signatures They run television ads where a slightly over weight fellow wearing dark rimmed glasses introduces himself as PC and another younger guy in a casual shirt and pants introduces himself as Mac... Of course the Mac always gets the upper hand... Good ads. PC was having a camera mounted on his head with duct tape bragging that some day Mac could get one then the installer informs him that Mac comes with the camera. Another ad has a really geeky looking Mac praising up PC. Then the "real" Mac comes along and asks what's happening.... The geeky looking stand in says under his breathe how big a fan he is on Macs. There is a whole series of theses ads running. All are to one extent or the other entertaining the same way as While E. Coyote... You keep wondering how PC is going to mess up in each new ad. A short while ago somebody did actually write a virus that attacks the Mac... Didn't last very long. Noel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Lynn Matteson > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:52 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Signatures > > > > Noel- > The main advantage of a Mac is the virus writers don't bother with > writing a virus for Macs...they'd only screw up a couple dozen users > if they did, instead of millions of the other kind. : ) > > What ads? I'm a big TV watcher, and don't recall seeing any, or if I > did they couldn't have been memorable...at least not in MY memory. > > > Lynn Matteson > Grass Lake, Michigan > Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 > flying w/250+ hrs > do not archive > > > On Apr 28, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Noel Loveys wrote: > > > > > > Lynn: > > > > I know I'm going to regret this but...... Maybe the Mac has a few > > advantages :-) gotta love their ads. > > > > Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern > > Campbellton, Newfoundland, Canada > > Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA > > Aerocet 1100s > > noelloveys@yahoo.ca > > ========================================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:04:58 PM PST US From: RRTRACK@aol.com Subject: Kitfox-List: 912 Oil Thermostat Installed I have now tested the new oil thermostat I bought from Lockwood Aviation and installed it in my Kitfox 5 912 UL. My oil temps were only getting up to maybe 180 degrees and it took a long time to get the 110 degrees for take off. The oil thermostat did help, I now get a steady 200 degrees in flight and much fasted warm ups. It did add some additional hoses and I had to fabricate a mount for the oil thermostat under the engine mount. I would recommend this to anyone in northern areas. Mark Hartford, Wisconsin Kitfox 5 Vixen 912 UL ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:14:51 PM PST US From: RRTRACK@aol.com Subject: Kitfox-List: IVO IFA Prop Information I have just installed a new 70" IVO Patriot in-flight adjustable prop on my 912 UL. I need help in adjusting the pitch range to get the most out of the prop without lugging the engine too much. What is the best RPM for climb out? How do I set it up for cruise and not lug the engine too much? I flew it twice tonight and the IVO was smooth and quite. My clime rate @ 1000# take off weight, 1000 MSL, 60 degree OAT, was 1200 FPM. But the cruise speeds really amazed me. At least a 15 MPH improvement! 115 MPH @ 5200 RPM (my normal cruise rpm) 125 MPH @ 5700 RPM (full throttle) verified with my GPS several times! Please advise to the best way to use this type of prop. Thanks, Mark Hartford, Wisconsin Kitfox 5 Vixen 912 UL ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:39:57 PM PST US From: "Rick" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: IVO IFA Prop Information Mark, not sure about your particular engine but all engines have a power band in which they create the most torque. You should be able to get those numbers from Rotax. If you keep the engine in that range you can play with the pitch and throttle to optimize power and cruise. The engine doesn't care what it is turning just what RPM and load it is under. If you begin to lug your engine you should see some unsmooth running and and increase in EGTs and or cylinder head temps. It is always better to run a little faster that to lug the engine. You can build up some pretty dangerous cylinder pressures in a short amount of time. Say 125 is pretty fast for a fox. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RRTRACK@aol.com Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: IVO IFA Prop Information I have just installed a new 70" IVO Patriot in-flight adjustable prop on my 912 UL. I need help in adjusting the pitch range to get the most out of the prop without lugging the engine too much. What is the best RPM for climb out? How do I set it up for cruise and not lug the engine too much? I flew it twice tonight and the IVO was smooth and quite. My clime rate @ 1000# take off weight, 1000 MSL, 60 degree OAT, was 1200 FPM. But the cruise speeds really amazed me. At least a 15 MPH improvement! 115 MPH @ 5200 RPM (my normal cruise rpm) 125 MPH @ 5700 RPM (full throttle) verified with my GPS several times! Please advise to the best way to use this type of prop. 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