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1. 12:05 AM - full lotus floats (Don and Dianne Usher)
2. 04:25 AM - Re: full lotus floats (Kevin Cozik)
3. 06:57 AM - Re: Re: Off topic...Top Gun (Noel Loveys)
4. 07:16 AM - Re: full lotus floats (Noel Loveys)
5. 10:32 AM - Re: Off topic...Top Gun (Larry/Cathy Boone)
6. 11:29 AM - Strut fairing questions. (Dave G.)
7. 11:32 AM - Wing Tips FS? (maybe) (Dave G.)
8. 12:59 PM - Re: Strut fairing questions. (Lowell Fitt)
9. 12:59 PM - Re: Strut fairing questions. (Guy Buchanan)
10. 01:17 PM - Re: Off topic...Top Gun (skyflyte@comcast.net)
11. 01:49 PM - Re: Strut fairing questions. (Lynn Matteson)
12. 01:59 PM - Re: Off topic...Top Gun (Lynn Matteson)
13. 02:19 PM - Re: michigan kit foxer (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
14. 03:57 PM - Re: Strut fairing questions. (kitfoxmike)
15. 03:58 PM - Re: Love my Fox (kitfoxmike)
16. 04:19 PM - Re: Re: Love my Fox (Jim Bell)
17. 04:42 PM - Re: Re: Love my Fox (Don Smythe)
18. 07:07 PM - Re: Wing Tips FS? (maybe) (xfire)
19. 07:24 PM - WING TIPS (Noel Loveys)
20. 09:08 PM - Blaine Aviation Weekend (Lyle Peterson)
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| Subject: | full lotus floats |
Am mounting full lotus floats on my FK 111. What is best distance for CG
forward of step and what angle of incidence of float to chord. Thanks.
Don
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| Subject: | Re: full lotus floats |
HI Don,
I have collected some general information which may help you in your
installation. I'll get it from my hangar today or tomorrow and forward
it to you. I know there are a few kitfoxs mounted on full lotus floats
so finding specific mounting instructions should be easy. Have you
contacted full lotus?
Kevin Cozik
S6-7 914 turbo (30 days 'til inspection)
Czech ampibs
Lansing Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: Don and Dianne Usher
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 3:04 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: full lotus floats
Am mounting full lotus floats on my FK 111. What is best distance for
CG forward of step and what angle of incidence of float to chord.
Thanks.
Don
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| Subject: | Re: Off topic...Top Gun |
The Hughes movie we're thinking about is Hell's Angels, a movie he directed
and produced about the dogfights of the first world war. I agree with you
and the Hughes Biopic.
Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern
Campbellton, Newfoundland,
Canada
Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA
Aerocet 1100s
noelloveys@yahoo.ca
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> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kirk hull
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 12:49 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Off topic...Top Gun
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> I have all 3 and prefer the Rocketeer my self. The Howard
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> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kentk
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> I have both Top Gun and the Rocketeer on DVD. Look real good
> on a 40" LCD
> HDTV! However, I would like to see that Howard Hughes movie as well.
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| Subject: | full lotus floats |
The Full lotus folks should be able to give you all the info you need for
that install. There are lots of them around here.
Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern
Campbellton, Newfoundland,
Canada
Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA
Aerocet 1100s
<mailto:noelloveys@yahoo.ca> noelloveys@yahoo.ca
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don and Dianne
Usher
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 4:35 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: full lotus floats
Am mounting full lotus floats on my FK 111. What is best distance for CG
forward of step and what angle of incidence of float to chord. Thanks.
Don
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| Subject: | Re: Off topic...Top Gun |
Don,
Great movie? I don't know, but sometimes we do crazy things. After seeing
the movie for the first time, my next flight was into Fairbanks I was
carring an empty 100lb propane bottle strapped down behind me in a
C-172.....I made it and everything was in place when I arrived.
Larry Boone, Denair, CA
Building Series 5 Outback
Rotax 912 uls, IVOPROP Med
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Smythe" <dosmythe@cox.net>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Off topic...Top Gun
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> I don't know if it was the greatest movie or not but that movie cost me
> almost $15K. I had been away from aviation for a while and my divorce was
> just final. Went to see Top Gun and started looking for an airplane to
> buy the very next day. Bought a Cherokee 140 a few days later. That's a
> true story.
> Don Smythe
> Classic IV w/582
> Newport News, Va.
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| Subject: | Strut fairing questions. |
I have been in touch with Kitfox and John advises that they have a PVc
fairing kit. Has anyone used this and do you have pictures? The original
fairings from the damaged struts was a wood-like material that is very
hard and cannot be removed. I can't imagine that PVC would be as strong.
Any ideas??
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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| Subject: | Wing Tips FS? (maybe) |
I have a set of fairly good wing tips, the droop tip style that I don't
care for. John McBean has advised ne that they carry two styles and I
may opt for one of them. Is anyone interested in buying a set of the
droopy ones??
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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| Subject: | Re: Strut fairing questions. |
Dave,
I have the PVC fairings on my airplane. They are tough, I don't worry if
someone is helping move the airplane by grabbing the fairing covered lift
struts.
I think the most common argument against them is that they are relatively
heavy vs. a light weight wood.
Lowell Fitt
Cameron Park, CA
Model IV-1200 R-912 UL Warp
1998 850 hrs.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 11:28 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Strut fairing questions.
I have been in touch with Kitfox and John advises that they have a PVc
fairing kit. Has anyone used this and do you have pictures? The original
fairings from the damaged struts was a wood-like material that is very hard
and cannot be removed. I can't imagine that PVC would be as strong. Any
ideas??
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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| Subject: | Re: Strut fairing questions. |
At 11:28 AM 5/5/2007, you wrote:
>The original fairings from the damaged struts was a wood-like
>material that is very hard and cannot be removed. I can't imagine
>that PVC would be as strong.
I did not install mine, but I give them a bulletproof rating. They're
certainly a lot harder than my head!
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Off topic...Top Gun |
How about "The Great Waldo Pepper"?
Mike
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From: courierboy@earthlink.net
>
> Can't beat "Jet Pilot" with John Wayne and Janet Leigh for F-80, F-86
> fun in/around the clouds.
>
> Bill Mills
> Chinook/912ul in progress
> SF bay area Calif
> still lurking after all these years
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> >Another great movie in my opinion is: "The Rocketeer" Set in the
> >30's any character in the movie could be one of us experimenting
> >with pistons, tubes, wood, rags and dope! ...Oh, and rocket power!
> >
> >John P. Marzluf (John Z.)
> >Columbus, Ohio
> >Series V Outback (Out Back In The Garage)
> >20% Complete, Not Currently Building
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<DIV>How about "The Great Waldo Pepper"?</DIV>
<DIV> Mike</DIV>
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<BR>> <BR>> Can't beat "Jet Pilot" with John Wayne and Janet
Leigh for F-80, F-86 <BR>> fun in/around the clouds. <BR>> <BR>> Bill
Mills <BR>> Chinook/912ul in progress <BR>> SF bay area Calif <BR>>
still lurking after all these years <BR>> do not archive <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> >Another great movie in my opinion is: "The Rocketeer" Set in the
<BR>> >30's any character in the movie could be one of us experimenting
<BR>> >with pistons, tubes, wood, rags and dope! ...Oh, and rocket power!
<BR>> > <BR>> >John P. Marzluf (John Z.) <BR>> >Columbus,
Ohio <BR>> >Series V Outback (Out Back In The Garage) <BR>> >20% Complete,
Not Currently Building <BR>> >Do Not A
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| Subject: | Re: Strut fairing questions. |
"Strong like bull" to quote some lame B-movie that I saw years ago. I
installed the PVC fairings that were produced back in about 1994 or
so, and they are tough. I covered mine with Polyfiber cloth, and
painted with Polytone just like any fabric-covered part. I have some
pictures.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/275+ hrs
On May 5, 2007, at 2:28 PM, Dave G. wrote:
> I have been in touch with Kitfox and John advises that they have a
> PVc fairing kit. Has anyone used this and do you have pictures? The
> original fairings from the damaged struts was a wood-like material
> that is very hard and cannot be removed. I can't imagine that PVC
> would be as strong. Any ideas??
>
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> Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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| Subject: | Re: Off topic...Top Gun |
Yes! Another very good flying movie. I've got a tape of this one, and
watch it every now and then. I took note of the propping scene where
Waldo bounces the prop backwards against compression, to kick the
engine to life...I've done this with model engines many times.
Lynn
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On May 5, 2007, at 4:17 PM, skyflyte@comcast.net wrote:
> How about "The Great Waldo Pepper"?
> Mike
> do not archive
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> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: courierboy@earthlink.net
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> >
> > Can't beat "Jet Pilot" with John Wayne and Janet Leigh for F-80,
> F-86
> > fun in/around the clouds.
> >
> > Bill Mills
> > Chinook/912ul in progress
> > SF bay area Calif
> > still lurking after all these years
> > do not archive
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> >
> > >Another great movie in my opinion is: "The Rocketeer" Set in the
> > >30's any character in the movie could be one of us experimenting
> > >with pistons, tubes, wood, rags and dope! ...Oh, and rocket power!
> > >
> > >John P. Marzluf (John Z.)
> > >Columbus, Ohio
> > >Series V Outback (Out Back In The Garage)
> > >20% Complete, Not Currently Building
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| Subject: | Re: michigan kit foxer |
yes maybe I will apologies but just remember You are the one that brought
it off list and back to the form for everyone to see. I had a couple of
people come out for breakfast but who will want to next time if this is what
you turn everything into mister friendly . why cant I just sign my name
Mal??? please do not respond
At 07:41 PM 5/3/2007, you wrote:
it wont cost me much and will support the club sat may 5th mal
then you wrote
Hi Malcolm. Would you please put your full name, approximate location,
aircraft and engine type, and build / flying status in your signature? Mike and
I
are trying to make the place a little more friendly and the information helps
people get to know each other a little better.
Thanks,
Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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| Subject: | Re: Strut fairing questions. |
I have them on my plane, I left them alone, no paint, no glue, just snapped them
on and away I went. about 400 hrs on them, they look great. When I removed
the wood off one side I weighed the wood and then weighed the plastic, pretty
much the same.
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse
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I love my fox also, 100 hrs since January 1. I've tried to let mine land itself,
hands off, but my wife yells at me every time I try.
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse
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Yea - I agree - Fox is the best. Flies like a dream, can do anything in it.
Done things I never dreamed of in cert aircraft. Can't beat it!
pilotjim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kitfoxmike
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 6:59 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Love my Fox
I love my fox also, 100 hrs since January 1. I've tried to let mine land
itself, hands off, but my wife yells at me every time I try.
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse
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Well, I love my Fox also but, I really need to sell it. Every time I
mention this on the list I get a couple responses. I'm open to any serious
buyers. Contact me off list at dosmythe@.cox.net
Don Smythe
Classic IV w/582
Newport News, Va.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Bell" <jim@franchise-u.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 7:19 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Love my Fox
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> Yea - I agree - Fox is the best. Flies like a dream, can do anything in
> it.
> Done things I never dreamed of in cert aircraft. Can't beat it!
>
> pilotjim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kitfoxmike
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 6:59 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Love my Fox
>
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> I love my fox also, 100 hrs since January 1. I've tried to let mine land
> itself, hands off, but my wife yells at me every time I try.
>
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> kitfoxmike
> model IV, 1200
> speedster
> 912ul
> building
> RV7a
> slowbuild wings, fuse
> Do not archive
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=111060#111060
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Tips FS? (maybe) |
I may be interested. Any Idea what you want for them?
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Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C / Mk IV"
582 Full lotus 1260
90% rebuilt
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I notice there are two styles of wing tips being offered at the present
time. The classic drooped tips and the Hoerner style.
I have the drooped style on my plane but I was wondering if any one has
tried both styles and found any increase in lift of one style over the
other. I fly entirely off water on floats ( the only way to go ) and as
you
expect every bit of lift I can get is appreciated.
C-FINB is ready for flight if the ice will ever melt!.... next week is
looking good.
Picture taken last spring.
It was mentioned to me that the drooped tips obscure visibility... Has
any
one else noticed this?
Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern
Campbellton, Newfoundland,
Canada
Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA
Aerocet 1100s
<mailto:noelloveys@yahoo.ca> noelloveys@yahoo.ca
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| Subject: | Blaine Aviation Weekend |
This is coming very soon but it should be a great fly-in. EAA Chapter
237
is having a fly-in pancake breakfast and lunch at Anoka County Airport
in
Blaine, MN on May 19th and 20th
Chapter 237's Famous Pancake Breakfast with sausage and beverage runs
from
7a.m. to noon and lunch of hamburgers, hot dogs and chili runs until
4p.m.
There are two really great aviation museums on the airport. Golden
Wings
Museum has a collection of beautifully restored vintage airplanes that
includes five trimotors. American Wings Air Museum has a collection of
warbirds from WWII to Dessert Storm. They also have a Wright Flyer
replica,
an original 1911 Steco biplane plus many other exhibits.
There was a Swift, an Ercoupe, a Luscombe T8-F plus a lot of other
vintage
airplanes, warbirds and the usual later model airplanes at last year's
event.
There will be a Hangar Dance Saturday evening with the Sights and Sounds
of
Dave Andrews Big Band. This has been a lot of fun for everyone that
attended in past years.
More can be found at www.eaachapter237.org
Thank you,
Lyle Peterson
President, EAA Chapter 237
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