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     1. 01:12 AM - High Altitude (avtar412)
     2. 02:01 AM - Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 (avtar412)
     3. 03:45 AM - Re: 582 vibration (W & R Beck)
     4. 06:32 AM - Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 (Lynn Matteson)
     5. 07:15 AM - Re: 582 Vibration (Napier, Mark)
     6. 07:49 AM - Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 ()
     7. 08:12 AM - Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 ()
     8. 08:16 AM - Re: Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 ()
     9. 08:46 AM - request for help ()
    10. 09:23 AM - Re: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly (alnanarthur)
    11. 10:04 AM - M10x1 motor mount bolts. (kaufjm@AOL.COM)
    12. 11:32 AM - Re: M10x1 motor mount bolts. (alnanarthur)
    13. 11:37 AM - European Kitfoxes (Michel Verheughe)
    14. 11:37 AM - Re: M10x1 motor mount bolts. (Barry West)
    15. 02:33 PM - Re: request for help (kirk hull)
    16. 02:58 PM - Re: High Altitude (kitfoxmike)
    17. 02:59 PM - Re: request for help (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
    18. 04:11 PM - Re: request for help (akflyer)
    19. 05:18 PM - Re: 582 vibration (tc9008@aol.com)
    20. 05:25 PM - Re: 582 vibration (Herbert R Gottelt)
    21. 05:26 PM - Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 (Paul Kates)
    22. 05:33 PM - Re: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly (Paul Kates)
    23. 05:54 PM - Re: Re: High Altitude (Rick)
    24. 06:33 PM - Re: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly (Dan Billingsley)
    25. 06:45 PM - Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 (Lynn Matteson)
    26. 07:02 PM - Re: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly (jdmcbean)
    27. 08:00 PM - Re: request for help (ron schick)
    28. 08:18 PM - Re: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly (Andy Fultz)
 
 
 
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      Well, flew my fox over our near by mountain today, 9500ft. I was over the top in
      less than 15 min from takeoff. i have a turbocharged engine so didn't seem to
      have much drop off in performance up there and didn't feel washy on the controls
      at all? I shut the engine down on the decent and poked the nose over, no
      way would that prop turn, 2.2:1 PSRU. Was a real buzz experience as weather was
      CAVU and calm. John A. NZ
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=111525#111525
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 | 
      
      
      Re the Kreem, I think most of the problem was not removing the waxy coating on
      the inside of the tanks. I used MEK to degrease before applying the Kreem and
      no sign of it lifting. John A. NZ
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=111527#111527
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 582 vibration | 
      
      Ray,
      
      I don't know why my GSC prop greyhead 582 is different but I use 23-2500 
      rpm when the engine is cold to get a smooth idle. Once it warms up it 
      will easily go down to 2100 and idle there happily all day with very 
      minimal vibration. You can almost count the prop blades going by. Below 
      2050 the shakes abruptly come in; my feeling is that the vibration is an 
      engine/gearbox/prop/rotational mass thingy, and not something inherent 
      to the 582 itself.
      
      I do know that I spent a lot of time when I built her getting the carbs 
      synched together just so, so the slides were in the exact same position 
      at idle and all the way through their throws. And that idle mixture was 
      mapped and matched. Don't ask me how I did it as that was more than 10 
      years ago and my remembrance(?) is fuzzy. A lot of the tuning was done 
      with very careful measurements and, above all, feel. The carb settings 
      have never been changed since then other than main jet changes for the 
      seasons. I have also spent quite a bit of time making sure the blades on 
      my GSC were pitched evenly. 
      
      The 582 can be a remarkably smooth engine, especially for a 600cc 
      parallel twin with no counterbalancers. I remember that in my college 
      days my 360cc Honda twin pretty much shook my kidneys to jelly on a 
      cross country ride.
      
      You might want to check your carb slides and idle mixture screws and the 
      position of the carb needles and size of the main jets; make sure none 
      of them are way off or mismatched. Also check that the carbs are square 
      to the engine. And check that your throttle cables are evenly pulling 
      the slides up and down.
      
      Robert Beck
      Model IV 1050 w/582
      Loaded but LIGHT
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Don Smythe 
        To: kitfox-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:55 PM
        Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 vibration
      
      
        Ray,
            The 582 will run rough up to around 2500 or 3000.  This is not 
      what I would call vibration but just rough.  Without actually feeling 
      the problem it's hard to understand the difference between what might be 
      rough or vibration.  Also, the 2 blade versus 3 blade might be adding to 
      the situation.
      
        Don Smythe
        Classic IV w/582
        Newport News, Va.
      
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| Subject:  | Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 | 
      
      
      I've got 275+ hours on my Kreem'd tanks...no problems yet...and I'm  
      using automotive SAE R7 or R9, can't recall which. Per Skystar's  
      instructions, I thoroughly cleaned the tanks with acetone, then  
      sloshed the tanks with Kreem. On my can of Kreem, the usual  
      disclaimer can be found:  "Not for use in aircraft...."
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Grass Lake, Michigan
      Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200
      flying w/275+ hrs
      do not archive
      
      On May 7, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Leon Morris wrote:
      
      > I have read in Kitfox Builder of many problems with the fiberglass  
      > tanks that have been sloshed with Kreem and fuel lines that are  
      > actually hydraulic lines. Is this just with autogas use? Should I  
      > get rid of them or use avgas only or try to find plastic tanks and  
      > gas fuel lines?
      >
      > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List_- 
      > ============================================================ _- 
      > forums.matronics.com_- 
      > ===========================================================
      
      
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| Subject:  | RE: 582 Vibration | 
      
      
      I have a 582 with a GSC 3 blade and it vibrates too.  I haven't found a
      good solution yet.
      
      Now I had a tough time getting my mixture right at low RPM's.  The
      engine would load up and quit if I pulled back for too long.  The answer
      was changing the idle jets.  I went from 55 to 50 down to 45 before I
      got an acceptable idle.  The engine will idle for as low as 1800 RPM.  I
      don't idle it there but I can pull the engine all the way back while
      landing so it doesn't float like it did before.
      
      Even so, if I have to taxing around very much at an airport I have to
      occasionally run the engine up above 3000 to avoid fouling the plugs.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 | 
      
      
      Thanks for the  info.I do have Kreem in the tanks and they do look good-no cracking.I
      thought the hose were the yellow Tygon that were the bad one so thanks
      for the.I found all the past articles on the subjects after I sent this--Leon
      ---- Don Smythe <dosmythe@cox.net> wrote: 
      >     Two different problems.  The basic Kreem problem was due to the product cracking
      and coming loose in the tanks.  This caused several owners to be forced
      into cleaning the tanks and re-sloshing.  Do you have Kreem in your tanks?
      >     The old fuel line problem was when Skystar supplied MIL-6000 black rubber
      hose in the kit.  Auto fuel from some locations around the country would cause
      the MIL-6000 to swell shut.  I'm almost certain that the new Kitfox folks do
      not supply that line anymore.  If you have MIL-6000, simply throw it in the trash
      can and replace with auto hose  of either SAE-R7 or SAE -R9 (fuel injection).
      I use clear Polyurethane from AC Spruce and it works just fine.  The auto
      hose or Poly will work equally well with 100LL.  
      >     As far as going to plastic tanks, I think the jury is still out on what is
      the best choice if a replacement is necessary.  If I "HAD" to change tanks right
      now I don't know what I would choose.
      > 
      > Don Smythe
      > Classic IV w/582
      > Newport News, Va.
      > 
      > 
      > 
      >   ----- Original Message ----- 
      >   From: Leon Morris 
      >   To: kitfox-list@matronics.com 
      >   Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:51 AM
      >   Subject: Kitfox-List: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4
      > 
      > 
      >   I have read in Kitfox Builder of many problems with the fiberglass tanks that
      have been sloshed with Kreem and fuel lines that are actually hydraulic lines.
      Is this just with autogas use? Should I get rid of them or use avgas only
      or try to find plastic tanks and gas fuel lines?
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 | 
      
      
      Thanks for the info--found alll the old articles after I sent the E-mail.I will
      be checking out the Jabiru 2200 next.--Leon  
      ---- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote: 
      > 
      > I've got 275+ hours on my Kreem'd tanks...no problems yet...and I'm  
      > using automotive SAE R7 or R9, can't recall which. Per Skystar's  
      > instructions, I thoroughly cleaned the tanks with acetone, then  
      > sloshed the tanks with Kreem. On my can of Kreem, the usual  
      > disclaimer can be found:  "Not for use in aircraft...."
      > 
      > Lynn Matteson
      > Grass Lake, Michigan
      > Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200
      > flying w/275+ hrs
      > do not archive
      > 
      > On May 7, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Leon Morris wrote:
      > 
      > > I have read in Kitfox Builder of many problems with the fiberglass  
      > > tanks that have been sloshed with Kreem and fuel lines that are  
      > > actually hydraulic lines. Is this just with autogas use? Should I  
      > > get rid of them or use avgas only or try to find plastic tanks and  
      > > gas fuel lines?
      > >
      > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List_- 
      > > ============================================================ _- 
      > > forums.matronics.com_- 
      > > ===========================================================
      > 
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 | 
      
      
      Thanks,I appreciate the info.All the articles have been a real help--Leon
      ---- avtar412 <janderson412@hotmail.com> wrote: 
      > 
      > Re the Kreem, I think most of the problem was not removing the waxy coating on
      the inside of the tanks. I used MEK to degrease before applying the Kreem and
      no sign of it lifting. John A. NZ
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=111527#111527
      > 
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| Subject:  | request for help | 
      
      
      Is someone out there willing to measure the diameter of their "bump" style round
      cowl? I don't know whether I can fit it over my alternative engine (Corvair).
      I need the diameter of the front opening and the diameter of the rear where
      it passes over the engine cover (where it is fastened to the balance of the cowl).
      I contacted Kitfox directly but they weren't able to provide this info. (I'm
      sure they have their hands full) Anyone currently have their cowling off who
      could help?  It would be much appreciated. Hate to order one, just to find
      out that I can't use it. (Builder)
      
      John Sandt / Kitfox 7 / Tri-gear / Corvair / BRS / Ridgecrest, CA 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly | 
      
      
      On May 7, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Gerald Jantzi wrote:
      
      > I am still trying to get information on what I should order an from  
      > where. need throttle ,choke cable Assembly . need everything from  
      > cockpit to carburetors. for kitfox 5 with rotax 912ul. is there any  
      > model 5 drivers that can give me some input. thanks gerry
      
      
      Sportplane LLC is Info@sportplanellc.com
      Kitfox LLC is info@kitfoxaircraft.com
      John McBean is john@kitfoxaircraft.com
      Debra McBean is debra@kitfoxaircraft.com
      and finally the telephone is 208 337-5111 and the fax is 208 337-5116
      
      The web page is http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/contact.htm
      
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| Subject:  | M10x1 motor mount bolts. | 
      
      I am re installing my 912ULS and have spent the last hour or so looking for the
      spesifications for the torque of the m10x1 motor mount bolts. 
      Jon
      ________________________________________________________________________
      
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| Subject:  | Re: M10x1 motor mount bolts. | 
      
      The  rotax heavy maintenance specifies 35 Nm (310 in lb) for M10 bolts.
      
      I don't understand  the length  M10x1 that  you mention.  The short  
      bolts that come with the shipping container are not
      to be used for installation.
      
      On mine the motor mount ring attaches  to the engine with 3 bolts  
      that are about 2 1/2 inches long and one that is
        about 5 inches long.
      
      Allan Arthur
      Kitfox 5, N40AA
      Rotax 912ULS, Warpdrive 3 blade
      Byron Airport, CA  (C83)  Hanger C8
      
      
      On May 8, 2007, at 10:03 AM, kaufjm@aol.com wrote:
      
      > I am re installing my 912ULS and have spent the last hour or so  
      > looking for the spesifications for the torque of the m10x1 motor  
      > mount bolts.
      > Jon
      
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| Subject:  | European Kitfoxes | 
      
      
      Hello guys,
      My Swedish friend Lars-Gran had first a web site for Swedish Kitfoxes. 
      Later, he upgraded it to Scandinavian Kitfoxes. Now he has started 
      European Kitfoxes.
      
      If you are European, please visit the site, maybe we'll organise one 
      day a European Kitfox fly-in. The address is:
      
      http://www.kitfox.eu/
      
      Cheers,
      Michel Verheughe
      Norway
      Kitfox 3 - Jabiru
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: M10x1 motor mount bolts. | 
      
      Jon, call tech people at Lockwood, 863-655-6229.
      
      Barry West
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: kaufjm@aol.com 
        To: kitfox-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:03 PM
        Subject: Kitfox-List: M10x1 motor mount bolts.
      
      
        I am re installing my 912ULS and have spent the last hour or so 
      looking for the spesifications for the torque of the m10x1 motor mount 
      bolts. 
        Jon
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| Subject:  | request for help | 
      
      
      I would be happy to but mine has been stretched to fit over a sub.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      josandt@verizon.net
      Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:44 AM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: request for help
      
      
      Is someone out there willing to measure the diameter of their "bump" style
      round cowl? I don't know whether I can fit it over my alternative engine
      (Corvair). I need the diameter of the front opening and the diameter of the
      rear where it passes over the engine cover (where it is fastened to the
      balance of the cowl). I contacted Kitfox directly but they weren't able to
      provide this info. (I'm sure they have their hands full) Anyone currently
      have their cowling off who could help?  It would be much appreciated. Hate
      to order one, just to find out that I can't use it. (Builder)
      
      John Sandt / Kitfox 7 / Tri-gear / Corvair / BRS / Ridgecrest, CA 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: High Altitude | 
      
      
      Yup, these little birds are real nice.  I've taken mine up to 11000 without trouble.
      I like taking off from my field, which is at 2000ft agl and turn out at
      the end of the runway and climb to 1000ft agl to clear the hill(2900agl) off
      to the right, am usually at 1000 agl by the time I go over the radio towers. 
      The breath taker is when I'm at a field that is in a hole and I take off, level
      after take off and get the speed up to 80 ias and pull up and turn out, generally
      45 bank, Zoom up and over the trees, very fun.
      
      --------
      kitfoxmike
      model IV, 1200
      speedster
      912ul
      building 
      RV7a
      slowbuild wings, fuse
      Do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=111668#111668
      
      
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| Subject:  | request for help | 
      
      
      Not sure if this will help as I don't know if different models are all the 
      same size, but the cowl on my Kitfox 3 project measures aprox 28" diameter 
      and the front opening is 13 1/2" wide X 15 1/2" high.
      Jim Chuk
      Avid Mk IV
      northern Mn.
      
      
      >From: <josandt@verizon.net>
      >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Kitfox-List: request for help
      >Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 10:43:37 -0500 (CDT)
      >
      >
      >Is someone out there willing to measure the diameter of their "bump" style 
      >round cowl? I don't know whether I can fit it over my alternative engine 
      >(Corvair). I need the diameter of the front opening and the diameter of the 
      >rear where it passes over the engine cover (where it is fastened to the 
      >balance of the cowl). I contacted Kitfox directly but they weren't able to 
      >provide this info. (I'm sure they have their hands full) Anyone currently 
      >have their cowling off who could help?  It would be much appreciated. Hate 
      >to order one, just to find out that I can't use it. (Builder)
      >
      >John Sandt / Kitfox 7 / Tri-gear / Corvair / BRS / Ridgecrest, CA
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: request for help | 
      
      
      Just measured a Mk II and the opening in the front was 13 1/4" and 26" at the back
      of the cowl.  You would only have about 25" usable in the cowling.  Others
      have used the round cowl but had to glass in a couple bumps for the front cylinders.
      
      --------
      Leonard Perry
      Soldotna AK
      Avid "C" / Mk IV 
      582 IVO IFA
      Full Lotus 1260
      95% complete
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=111690#111690
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 582 vibration | 
      
      I have a 582 c box and gsc props. My primer was leaking fuel by and it made my
      mixture rich enough to idle rough. New primer did the trick. Disconnect the primer
      and stop up all outlets on primer and carbs, maybe it will idle smooth
      
      Travis
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: trevorkebb@earthlink.net
      Sent: Mon, 7 May 2007 9:59 PM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 vibration
      
      
      Ray,
      
      I don't know why my GSC prop greyhead 582 is different but I use 23-2500 rpm when
      the engine is cold to get a smooth idle. Once it warms up it will easily go
      down to 2100 and idle there happily all day with very minimal vibration. You
      can almost count the prop blades going by. Below 2050 the shakes abruptly come
      in; my feeling is that the vibration is an engine/gearbox/prop/rotational mass
      thingy, and not something inherent to the 582 itself.
      
      I do know that I spent a lot of time when I built her getting the carbs synched
      together just so, so the slides were in the exact same position at idle and all
      the way through their throws. And that idle mixture was mapped and matched.
      Don't ask me how I did it as that was more than 10 years ago and my remembrance(?)
      is fuzzy. A lot of the tuning was done with very careful measurements and,
      above all, feel. The carb settings have never been changed since then other
      than main jet changes for the seasons. I have also spent quite a bit of time
      making sure the blades on my GSC were pitched evenly. 
      
      The 582 can be a remarkably smooth engine, especially for a 600cc parallel twin
      with no counterbalancers. I remember that in my college days my 360cc Honda twin
      pretty much shook my kidneys to jelly on a cross country ride.
      
      You might want to check your carb slides and idle mixture screws and the position
      of the carb needles and size of the main jets; make sure none of them are way
      off or mismatched. Also check that the carbs are square to the engine. And
      check that your throttle cables are evenly pulling the slides up and down.
      
      Robert Beck
      Model IV 1050 w/582
      Loaded but LIGHT
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Don Smythe 
      Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:55 PM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 vibration
      
      
      Ray,
          The 582 will run rough up to around 2500 or 3000.  This is not what I would
      call vibration but just rough.  Without actually feeling the problem it's hard
      to understand the difference between what might be rough or vibration.  Also,
      the 2 blade versus 3 blade might be adding to the situation.
      
      Don Smythe
      Classic IV w/582
      Newport News, Va.
      
      
      ________________________________________________________________________
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 582 vibration | 
      
      I read that some of you have vibration problems with your 582 engines, and you
      are suspecting propeller imbalance. If everything else fails you may want to invest
      in a gadget called Propeller and Engine Balancers, called "Propeller Balance
      Master" sold thru > Leading Edge Air Foils,LLC.<                  
        I ran across their ad in their free ROTAX Parts catalog, on sale for $60.
        My 912UL engine fortunately does not need it, but they advertize it for 582's.
        1-800-532-3462. www.leadingedgeairfoils.com 
        This looks cheaper than a $200 dynamic balance job.
        Hope this may help somebody!
         
        Herb Gottelt M4-1200, 912UL
        Mount Prospect, IL
         
         Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> wrote
        :At 05:54 PM 5/7/2007, you wrote:
      
          Where did you get your Warp Drive Prop dynamically balanced?  I spoke with
      one the fellows at Warp Drive, and he said they balanced props statically.  Thanks
      for your response.
      A local FBO did it. Cruisair in Ramona. Most large FBO's have the capability to
      dynamically balance, it's fairly common for spam cans. A warning, though. It's
      expensive, (~$200,) and I noticed little difference. I think if you do a really
      good and conscientious static balance you'll be fine.
      
        Guy Buchanan
      San Diego, CA
      K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 | 
      
      Another problem to consider is ethanol in auto fuel.  Ethanol will 
      disolve some sloshing compounds and will also swell the rubber on many 
      essential components such as fuel lines and older style rubber tipped 
      float valves on Bing carbs.  Here in Texas the State mandates that all 
      auto fuel be at least 10% ethanol.  The only other source for straight 
      auto fuel in Texas is marine fuel.
      
      ________________________________
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Lynn Matteson
      Sent: Tue 5/8/2007 8:33 AM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4
      
      
      
      I've got 275+ hours on my Kreem'd tanks...no problems yet...and I'm 
      using automotive SAE R7 or R9, can't recall which. Per Skystar's 
      instructions, I thoroughly cleaned the tanks with acetone, then 
      sloshed the tanks with Kreem. On my can of Kreem, the usual 
      disclaimer can be found:  "Not for use in aircraft...."
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Grass Lake, Michigan
      Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200
      flying w/275+ hrs
      do not archive
      
      On May 7, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Leon Morris wrote:
      
      > I have read in Kitfox Builder of many problems with the fiberglass 
      > tanks that have been sloshed with Kreem and fuel lines that are 
      > actually hydraulic lines. Is this just with autogas use? Should I 
      > get rid of them or use avgas only or try to find plastic tanks and 
      > gas fuel lines?
      >
      > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List_-
      > 
      ========== _-
      > forums.matronics.com_-
      > 
      =========
      
      
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| Subject:  | 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly | 
      
      Sky Star previously sold the throtle assembly, Mine is a common vernier 
      throtle that I cut to fit.  It only has to reach the spliting mechanism. 
       Choke assemblies can be had at various motorcycle shops that sell 
      models with two carbs, or look for a motorcycle parts supply on the 
      internet for a split choke assembly... mine needs replacing as well so 
      I'll let you know what I find.
      
      ________________________________
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of alnanarthur
      Sent: Tue 5/8/2007 11:23 AM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly
      
      
      On May 7, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Gerald Jantzi wrote:
      
      
      	I am still trying to get information on what I should order an from 
      where. need throttle ,choke cable Assembly . need everything from 
      cockpit to carburetors. for kitfox 5 with rotax 912ul. is there any 
      model 5 drivers that can give me some input. thanks gerry
      
      
      Sportplane LLC is Info@sportplanellc.com <mailto:Info@sportplanellc.com> 
      
      Kitfox LLC is info@kitfoxaircraft.com <mailto:info@kitfoxaircraft.com> 
      John McBean is john@kitfoxaircraft.com <mailto:john@kitfoxaircraft.com> 
      Debra McBean is debra@kitfoxaircraft.com 
      <mailto:debra@kitfoxaircraft.com> 
      and finally the telephone is 208 337-5111 and the fax is 208 337-5116
      
      
      The web page is http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/contact.htm 
      <http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/contact.htm> 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: High Altitude | 
      
      
      With O2, I took my turbo subaru to 17,900 and she would have kept going.
      Still had a 500FPM climb going. What was even a better Kodak pic was the
      GPS showing 165GS. That didn't last when I made the turn back......long
      decent for sure. Still glad I did it that once. I called mid field at
      that altitude at L35. No one said a word. Probably thought someone was
      just messing around.
      
      Rick
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kitfoxmike
      Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:58 PM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: High Altitude
      
      
      
      Yup, these little birds are real nice.  I've taken mine up to 11000
      without trouble.  I like taking off from my field, which is at 2000ft
      agl and turn out at the end of the runway and climb to 1000ft agl to
      clear the hill(2900agl) off to the right, am usually at 1000 agl by the
      time I go over the radio towers.  The breath taker is when I'm at a
      field that is in a hole and I take off, level after take off and get the
      speed up to 80 ias and pull up and turn out, generally 45 bank, Zoom up
      and over the trees, very fun.
      
      --------
      kitfoxmike
      model IV, 1200
      speedster
      912ul
      building 
      RV7a
      slowbuild wings, fuse
      Do not archive
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=111668#111668
      
      
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| Subject:  | 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly | 
      
      Due to the recent development of the light sport RV-12, Van's Aircraft has developed
      what looks to be a solid choke pull for the cockpit. The new -12 is using
      the Rotax 912s. I just got a brief look at it, but it is said to make the pull
      a little easier...I'm looking into it.  
        FWIW
        Dan B
        Mesa, AZ
        Kitfox IV , Building
      
      Paul Kates <paul.kates@pathfinderlwd.com> wrote:
        Sky Star previously sold the throtle assembly, Mine is a common vernier throtle
      that I cut to fit. It only has to reach the spliting mechanism. Choke assemblies
      can be had at various motorcycle shops that sell models with two carbs,
      or look for a motorcycle parts supply on the internet for a split choke assembly...
      mine needs replacing as well so I'll let you know what I find.
      
      ________________________________
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of alnanarthur
      Sent: Tue 5/8/2007 11:23 AM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly
      
      
      On May 7, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Gerald Jantzi wrote:
      
      
      I am still trying to get information on what I should order an from where. need
      throttle ,choke cable Assembly . need everything from cockpit to carburetors.
      for kitfox 5 with rotax 912ul. is there any model 5 drivers that can give me
      some input. thanks gerry
      
      
      Sportplane LLC is Info@sportplanellc.com 
      Kitfox LLC is info@kitfoxaircraft.com 
      John McBean is john@kitfoxaircraft.com 
      Debra McBean is debra@kitfoxaircraft.com 
      and finally the telephone is 208 337-5111 and the fax is 208 337-5116
      
      
      The web page is http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/contact.htm 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 | 
      
      
      Except for about 3 gallons of mogas in an emergency, I've stuck to  
      100LL for all of the life of my Jabiru engine. They allow mogas after  
      50 hours, but this means having to deal with lugging gas at some  
      airports, so I'd rather use the 100LL and be done with it.
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Grass Lake, Michigan
      Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200
      flying w/275+ hrs
      
      On May 8, 2007, at 8:21 PM, Paul Kates wrote:
      
      > Another problem to consider is ethanol in auto fuel.  Ethanol will  
      > disolve some sloshing compounds and will also swell the rubber on  
      > many essential components such as fuel lines and older style rubber  
      > tipped float valves on Bing carbs.  Here in Texas the State  
      > mandates that all auto fuel be at least 10% ethanol.  The only  
      > other source for straight auto fuel in Texas is marine fuel.
      >
      > ________________________________
      >
      > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Lynn  
      > Matteson
      > Sent: Tue 5/8/2007 8:33 AM
      > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4
      >
      >
      >
      > I've got 275+ hours on my Kreem'd tanks...no problems yet...and I'm
      > using automotive SAE R7 or R9, can't recall which. Per Skystar's
      > instructions, I thoroughly cleaned the tanks with acetone, then
      > sloshed the tanks with Kreem. On my can of Kreem, the usual
      > disclaimer can be found:  "Not for use in aircraft...."
      >
      > Lynn Matteson
      > Grass Lake, Michigan
      > Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200
      > flying w/275+ hrs
      
      
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| Subject:  | 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly | 
      
      We also offer a simple choke design that works very well
      
      Fly Safe !!
      John & Debra McBean
      208.337.5111
      www.kitfoxaircraft.com
      "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dan Billingsley
      Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:32 PM
      Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly
      
      Due to the recent development of the light sport RV-12, Van's Aircraft has
      developed what looks to be a solid choke pull for the cockpit. The new -12
      is using the Rotax 912s. I just got a brief look at it, but it is said to
      make the pull a little easier...I'm looking into it.
      FWIW
      Dan B
      Mesa, AZ
      Kitfox IV , Building
      
      Paul Kates <paul.kates@pathfinderlwd.com> wrote:
      Sky Star previously sold the throtle assembly, Mine is a common vernier
      throtle that I cut to fit. It only has to reach the spliting mechanism.
      Choke assemblies can be had at various motorcycle shops that sell models
      with two carbs, or look for a motorcycle parts supply on the internet for a
      split choke assembly... mine needs replacing as well so I'll let you know
      what I find.
      
      ________________________________
      
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of alnanarthur
      Sent: Tue 5/8/2007 11:23 AM
      Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly
      
      
      On May 7, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Gerald Jantzi wrote:
      
      
      I am still trying to get information on what I should order an from where.
      need throttle ,choke cable Assembly . need everything from cockpit to
      carburetors. for kitfox 5 with rotax 912ul. is there any model 5 drivers
      that can give me some input. thanks gerry
      
      
      Sportplane LLC is Info@sportplanellc.com
      Kitfox LLC is info@kitfoxaircraft.com
      John McBean is john@kitfoxaircraft.com
      Debra McBean is debra@kitfoxaircraft.com
      and finally the telephone is 208 337-5111 and the fax is 208 337-5116
      
      
      The web page is http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/contact.htm
      
      
      PM
      
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| Subject:  | request for help | 
      
      John heres a picture or two of the glasswork to make a redrive VW fit.  It 
      was bulky looking at first, but looks great on the field now.
           Ron NB Ore  MK IV Speedster, 1915cc VW, 1.6:1 redrive, 72" Ivo ~60 
      hours
      
      
      >From: <josandt@verizon.net>
      >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Kitfox-List: request for help
      >Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 10:43:37 -0500 (CDT)
      >
      >
      >Is someone out there willing to measure the diameter of their "bump" style 
      >round cowl? I don't know whether I can fit it over my alternative engine 
      >(Corvair). I need the diameter of the front opening and the diameter of the 
      >rear where it passes over the engine cover (where it is fastened to the 
      >balance of the cowl). I contacted Kitfox directly but they weren't able to 
      >provide this info. (I'm sure they have their hands full) Anyone currently 
      >have their cowling off who could help?  It would be much appreciated. Hate 
      >to order one, just to find out that I can't use it. (Builder)
      >
      >John Sandt / Kitfox 7 / Tri-gear / Corvair / BRS / Ridgecrest, CA
      >
      >
      
      _________________________________________________________________
      Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? Youll love Windows Live 
      Hotmail. 
      
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| Subject:  | 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly | 
      
      John,
      
        Can't find it on your web page catalog.  Where is it?
      
      Andy
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jdmcbean
        Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:01 PM
        To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
        Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly
      
      
        We also offer a simple choke design that works very well
      
      
        Fly Safe !!
      
        John & Debra McBean
      
        208.337.5111
      
        www.kitfoxaircraft.com
      
        "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
      
      
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dan Billingsley
        Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:32 PM
        To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
        Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly
      
      
        Due to the recent development of the light sport RV-12, Van's Aircraft has
      developed what looks to be a solid choke pull for the cockpit. The new -12
      is using the Rotax 912s. I just got a brief look at it, but it is said to
      make the pull a little easier...I'm looking into it.
      
        FWIW
      
        Dan B
      
        Mesa, AZ
      
        Kitfox IV , Building
      
        Paul Kates <paul.kates@pathfinderlwd.com> wrote:
      
        Sky Star previously sold the throtle assembly, Mine is a common vernier
      throtle that I cut to fit. It only has to reach the spliting mechanism.
      Choke assemblies can be had at various motorcycle shops that sell models
      with two carbs, or look for a motorcycle parts supply on the internet for a
      split choke assembly... mine needs replacing as well so I'll let you know
      what I find.
      
        ________________________________
      
        From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of alnanarthur
        Sent: Tue 5/8/2007 11:23 AM
        To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly
      
      
        On May 7, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Gerald Jantzi wrote:
      
      
        I am still trying to get information on what I should order an from where.
      need throttle ,choke cable Assembly . need everything from cockpit to
      carburetors. for kitfox 5 with rotax 912ul. is there any model 5 drivers
      that can give me some input. thanks gerry
      
      
        Sportplane LLC is Info@sportplanellc.com
        Kitfox LLC is info@kitfoxaircraft.com
        John McBean is john@kitfoxaircraft.com
        Debra McBean is debra@kitfoxaircraft.com
        and finally the telephone is 208 337-5111 and the fax is 208 337-5116
      
      
        The web page is http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/contact.htm
      
      
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