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1. 01:12 AM - High Altitude (avtar412)
2. 02:01 AM - Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 (avtar412)
3. 03:45 AM - Re: 582 vibration (W & R Beck)
4. 06:32 AM - Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 (Lynn Matteson)
5. 07:15 AM - Re: 582 Vibration (Napier, Mark)
6. 07:49 AM - Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 ()
7. 08:12 AM - Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 ()
8. 08:16 AM - Re: Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 ()
9. 08:46 AM - request for help ()
10. 09:23 AM - Re: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly (alnanarthur)
11. 10:04 AM - M10x1 motor mount bolts. (kaufjm@AOL.COM)
12. 11:32 AM - Re: M10x1 motor mount bolts. (alnanarthur)
13. 11:37 AM - European Kitfoxes (Michel Verheughe)
14. 11:37 AM - Re: M10x1 motor mount bolts. (Barry West)
15. 02:33 PM - Re: request for help (kirk hull)
16. 02:58 PM - Re: High Altitude (kitfoxmike)
17. 02:59 PM - Re: request for help (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
18. 04:11 PM - Re: request for help (akflyer)
19. 05:18 PM - Re: 582 vibration (tc9008@aol.com)
20. 05:25 PM - Re: 582 vibration (Herbert R Gottelt)
21. 05:26 PM - Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 (Paul Kates)
22. 05:33 PM - Re: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly (Paul Kates)
23. 05:54 PM - Re: Re: High Altitude (Rick)
24. 06:33 PM - Re: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly (Dan Billingsley)
25. 06:45 PM - Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 (Lynn Matteson)
26. 07:02 PM - Re: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly (jdmcbean)
27. 08:00 PM - Re: request for help (ron schick)
28. 08:18 PM - Re: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly (Andy Fultz)
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Well, flew my fox over our near by mountain today, 9500ft. I was over the top in
less than 15 min from takeoff. i have a turbocharged engine so didn't seem to
have much drop off in performance up there and didn't feel washy on the controls
at all? I shut the engine down on the decent and poked the nose over, no
way would that prop turn, 2.2:1 PSRU. Was a real buzz experience as weather was
CAVU and calm. John A. NZ
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Subject: | Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 |
Re the Kreem, I think most of the problem was not removing the waxy coating on
the inside of the tanks. I used MEK to degrease before applying the Kreem and
no sign of it lifting. John A. NZ
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Subject: | Re: 582 vibration |
Ray,
I don't know why my GSC prop greyhead 582 is different but I use 23-2500
rpm when the engine is cold to get a smooth idle. Once it warms up it
will easily go down to 2100 and idle there happily all day with very
minimal vibration. You can almost count the prop blades going by. Below
2050 the shakes abruptly come in; my feeling is that the vibration is an
engine/gearbox/prop/rotational mass thingy, and not something inherent
to the 582 itself.
I do know that I spent a lot of time when I built her getting the carbs
synched together just so, so the slides were in the exact same position
at idle and all the way through their throws. And that idle mixture was
mapped and matched. Don't ask me how I did it as that was more than 10
years ago and my remembrance(?) is fuzzy. A lot of the tuning was done
with very careful measurements and, above all, feel. The carb settings
have never been changed since then other than main jet changes for the
seasons. I have also spent quite a bit of time making sure the blades on
my GSC were pitched evenly.
The 582 can be a remarkably smooth engine, especially for a 600cc
parallel twin with no counterbalancers. I remember that in my college
days my 360cc Honda twin pretty much shook my kidneys to jelly on a
cross country ride.
You might want to check your carb slides and idle mixture screws and the
position of the carb needles and size of the main jets; make sure none
of them are way off or mismatched. Also check that the carbs are square
to the engine. And check that your throttle cables are evenly pulling
the slides up and down.
Robert Beck
Model IV 1050 w/582
Loaded but LIGHT
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Smythe
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 vibration
Ray,
The 582 will run rough up to around 2500 or 3000. This is not
what I would call vibration but just rough. Without actually feeling
the problem it's hard to understand the difference between what might be
rough or vibration. Also, the 2 blade versus 3 blade might be adding to
the situation.
Don Smythe
Classic IV w/582
Newport News, Va.
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Subject: | Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 |
I've got 275+ hours on my Kreem'd tanks...no problems yet...and I'm
using automotive SAE R7 or R9, can't recall which. Per Skystar's
instructions, I thoroughly cleaned the tanks with acetone, then
sloshed the tanks with Kreem. On my can of Kreem, the usual
disclaimer can be found: "Not for use in aircraft...."
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/275+ hrs
do not archive
On May 7, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Leon Morris wrote:
> I have read in Kitfox Builder of many problems with the fiberglass
> tanks that have been sloshed with Kreem and fuel lines that are
> actually hydraulic lines. Is this just with autogas use? Should I
> get rid of them or use avgas only or try to find plastic tanks and
> gas fuel lines?
>
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Subject: | RE: 582 Vibration |
I have a 582 with a GSC 3 blade and it vibrates too. I haven't found a
good solution yet.
Now I had a tough time getting my mixture right at low RPM's. The
engine would load up and quit if I pulled back for too long. The answer
was changing the idle jets. I went from 55 to 50 down to 45 before I
got an acceptable idle. The engine will idle for as low as 1800 RPM. I
don't idle it there but I can pull the engine all the way back while
landing so it doesn't float like it did before.
Even so, if I have to taxing around very much at an airport I have to
occasionally run the engine up above 3000 to avoid fouling the plugs.
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Subject: | Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 |
Thanks for the info.I do have Kreem in the tanks and they do look good-no cracking.I
thought the hose were the yellow Tygon that were the bad one so thanks
for the.I found all the past articles on the subjects after I sent this--Leon
---- Don Smythe <dosmythe@cox.net> wrote:
> Two different problems. The basic Kreem problem was due to the product cracking
and coming loose in the tanks. This caused several owners to be forced
into cleaning the tanks and re-sloshing. Do you have Kreem in your tanks?
> The old fuel line problem was when Skystar supplied MIL-6000 black rubber
hose in the kit. Auto fuel from some locations around the country would cause
the MIL-6000 to swell shut. I'm almost certain that the new Kitfox folks do
not supply that line anymore. If you have MIL-6000, simply throw it in the trash
can and replace with auto hose of either SAE-R7 or SAE -R9 (fuel injection).
I use clear Polyurethane from AC Spruce and it works just fine. The auto
hose or Poly will work equally well with 100LL.
> As far as going to plastic tanks, I think the jury is still out on what is
the best choice if a replacement is necessary. If I "HAD" to change tanks right
now I don't know what I would choose.
>
> Don Smythe
> Classic IV w/582
> Newport News, Va.
>
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Leon Morris
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:51 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4
>
>
> I have read in Kitfox Builder of many problems with the fiberglass tanks that
have been sloshed with Kreem and fuel lines that are actually hydraulic lines.
Is this just with autogas use? Should I get rid of them or use avgas only
or try to find plastic tanks and gas fuel lines?
>
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Subject: | Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 |
Thanks for the info--found alll the old articles after I sent the E-mail.I will
be checking out the Jabiru 2200 next.--Leon
---- Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> wrote:
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> I've got 275+ hours on my Kreem'd tanks...no problems yet...and I'm
> using automotive SAE R7 or R9, can't recall which. Per Skystar's
> instructions, I thoroughly cleaned the tanks with acetone, then
> sloshed the tanks with Kreem. On my can of Kreem, the usual
> disclaimer can be found: "Not for use in aircraft...."
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/275+ hrs
> do not archive
>
> On May 7, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Leon Morris wrote:
>
> > I have read in Kitfox Builder of many problems with the fiberglass
> > tanks that have been sloshed with Kreem and fuel lines that are
> > actually hydraulic lines. Is this just with autogas use? Should I
> > get rid of them or use avgas only or try to find plastic tanks and
> > gas fuel lines?
> >
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Subject: | Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 |
Thanks,I appreciate the info.All the articles have been a real help--Leon
---- avtar412 <janderson412@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Re the Kreem, I think most of the problem was not removing the waxy coating on
the inside of the tanks. I used MEK to degrease before applying the Kreem and
no sign of it lifting. John A. NZ
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=111527#111527
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Subject: | request for help |
Is someone out there willing to measure the diameter of their "bump" style round
cowl? I don't know whether I can fit it over my alternative engine (Corvair).
I need the diameter of the front opening and the diameter of the rear where
it passes over the engine cover (where it is fastened to the balance of the cowl).
I contacted Kitfox directly but they weren't able to provide this info. (I'm
sure they have their hands full) Anyone currently have their cowling off who
could help? It would be much appreciated. Hate to order one, just to find
out that I can't use it. (Builder)
John Sandt / Kitfox 7 / Tri-gear / Corvair / BRS / Ridgecrest, CA
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Subject: | Re: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly |
On May 7, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Gerald Jantzi wrote:
> I am still trying to get information on what I should order an from
> where. need throttle ,choke cable Assembly . need everything from
> cockpit to carburetors. for kitfox 5 with rotax 912ul. is there any
> model 5 drivers that can give me some input. thanks gerry
Sportplane LLC is Info@sportplanellc.com
Kitfox LLC is info@kitfoxaircraft.com
John McBean is john@kitfoxaircraft.com
Debra McBean is debra@kitfoxaircraft.com
and finally the telephone is 208 337-5111 and the fax is 208 337-5116
The web page is http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/contact.htm
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Subject: | M10x1 motor mount bolts. |
I am re installing my 912ULS and have spent the last hour or so looking for the
spesifications for the torque of the m10x1 motor mount bolts.
Jon
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Subject: | Re: M10x1 motor mount bolts. |
The rotax heavy maintenance specifies 35 Nm (310 in lb) for M10 bolts.
I don't understand the length M10x1 that you mention. The short
bolts that come with the shipping container are not
to be used for installation.
On mine the motor mount ring attaches to the engine with 3 bolts
that are about 2 1/2 inches long and one that is
about 5 inches long.
Allan Arthur
Kitfox 5, N40AA
Rotax 912ULS, Warpdrive 3 blade
Byron Airport, CA (C83) Hanger C8
On May 8, 2007, at 10:03 AM, kaufjm@aol.com wrote:
> I am re installing my 912ULS and have spent the last hour or so
> looking for the spesifications for the torque of the m10x1 motor
> mount bolts.
> Jon
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Subject: | European Kitfoxes |
Hello guys,
My Swedish friend Lars-Gran had first a web site for Swedish Kitfoxes.
Later, he upgraded it to Scandinavian Kitfoxes. Now he has started
European Kitfoxes.
If you are European, please visit the site, maybe we'll organise one
day a European Kitfox fly-in. The address is:
http://www.kitfox.eu/
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru
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Subject: | Re: M10x1 motor mount bolts. |
Jon, call tech people at Lockwood, 863-655-6229.
Barry West
----- Original Message -----
From: kaufjm@aol.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:03 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: M10x1 motor mount bolts.
I am re installing my 912ULS and have spent the last hour or so
looking for the spesifications for the torque of the m10x1 motor mount
bolts.
Jon
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Subject: | request for help |
I would be happy to but mine has been stretched to fit over a sub.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
josandt@verizon.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:44 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: request for help
Is someone out there willing to measure the diameter of their "bump" style
round cowl? I don't know whether I can fit it over my alternative engine
(Corvair). I need the diameter of the front opening and the diameter of the
rear where it passes over the engine cover (where it is fastened to the
balance of the cowl). I contacted Kitfox directly but they weren't able to
provide this info. (I'm sure they have their hands full) Anyone currently
have their cowling off who could help? It would be much appreciated. Hate
to order one, just to find out that I can't use it. (Builder)
John Sandt / Kitfox 7 / Tri-gear / Corvair / BRS / Ridgecrest, CA
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Subject: | Re: High Altitude |
Yup, these little birds are real nice. I've taken mine up to 11000 without trouble.
I like taking off from my field, which is at 2000ft agl and turn out at
the end of the runway and climb to 1000ft agl to clear the hill(2900agl) off
to the right, am usually at 1000 agl by the time I go over the radio towers.
The breath taker is when I'm at a field that is in a hole and I take off, level
after take off and get the speed up to 80 ias and pull up and turn out, generally
45 bank, Zoom up and over the trees, very fun.
--------
kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse
Do not archive
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Subject: | request for help |
Not sure if this will help as I don't know if different models are all the
same size, but the cowl on my Kitfox 3 project measures aprox 28" diameter
and the front opening is 13 1/2" wide X 15 1/2" high.
Jim Chuk
Avid Mk IV
northern Mn.
>From: <josandt@verizon.net>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: request for help
>Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 10:43:37 -0500 (CDT)
>
>
>Is someone out there willing to measure the diameter of their "bump" style
>round cowl? I don't know whether I can fit it over my alternative engine
>(Corvair). I need the diameter of the front opening and the diameter of the
>rear where it passes over the engine cover (where it is fastened to the
>balance of the cowl). I contacted Kitfox directly but they weren't able to
>provide this info. (I'm sure they have their hands full) Anyone currently
>have their cowling off who could help? It would be much appreciated. Hate
>to order one, just to find out that I can't use it. (Builder)
>
>John Sandt / Kitfox 7 / Tri-gear / Corvair / BRS / Ridgecrest, CA
>
>
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Subject: | Re: request for help |
Just measured a Mk II and the opening in the front was 13 1/4" and 26" at the back
of the cowl. You would only have about 25" usable in the cowling. Others
have used the round cowl but had to glass in a couple bumps for the front cylinders.
--------
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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Subject: | Re: 582 vibration |
I have a 582 c box and gsc props. My primer was leaking fuel by and it made my
mixture rich enough to idle rough. New primer did the trick. Disconnect the primer
and stop up all outlets on primer and carbs, maybe it will idle smooth
Travis
-----Original Message-----
From: trevorkebb@earthlink.net
Sent: Mon, 7 May 2007 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 vibration
Ray,
I don't know why my GSC prop greyhead 582 is different but I use 23-2500 rpm when
the engine is cold to get a smooth idle. Once it warms up it will easily go
down to 2100 and idle there happily all day with very minimal vibration. You
can almost count the prop blades going by. Below 2050 the shakes abruptly come
in; my feeling is that the vibration is an engine/gearbox/prop/rotational mass
thingy, and not something inherent to the 582 itself.
I do know that I spent a lot of time when I built her getting the carbs synched
together just so, so the slides were in the exact same position at idle and all
the way through their throws. And that idle mixture was mapped and matched.
Don't ask me how I did it as that was more than 10 years ago and my remembrance(?)
is fuzzy. A lot of the tuning was done with very careful measurements and,
above all, feel. The carb settings have never been changed since then other
than main jet changes for the seasons. I have also spent quite a bit of time
making sure the blades on my GSC were pitched evenly.
The 582 can be a remarkably smooth engine, especially for a 600cc parallel twin
with no counterbalancers. I remember that in my college days my 360cc Honda twin
pretty much shook my kidneys to jelly on a cross country ride.
You might want to check your carb slides and idle mixture screws and the position
of the carb needles and size of the main jets; make sure none of them are way
off or mismatched. Also check that the carbs are square to the engine. And
check that your throttle cables are evenly pulling the slides up and down.
Robert Beck
Model IV 1050 w/582
Loaded but LIGHT
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Smythe
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 582 vibration
Ray,
The 582 will run rough up to around 2500 or 3000. This is not what I would
call vibration but just rough. Without actually feeling the problem it's hard
to understand the difference between what might be rough or vibration. Also,
the 2 blade versus 3 blade might be adding to the situation.
Don Smythe
Classic IV w/582
Newport News, Va.
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Subject: | Re: 582 vibration |
I read that some of you have vibration problems with your 582 engines, and you
are suspecting propeller imbalance. If everything else fails you may want to invest
in a gadget called Propeller and Engine Balancers, called "Propeller Balance
Master" sold thru > Leading Edge Air Foils,LLC.<
I ran across their ad in their free ROTAX Parts catalog, on sale for $60.
My 912UL engine fortunately does not need it, but they advertize it for 582's.
1-800-532-3462. www.leadingedgeairfoils.com
This looks cheaper than a $200 dynamic balance job.
Hope this may help somebody!
Herb Gottelt M4-1200, 912UL
Mount Prospect, IL
Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> wrote
:At 05:54 PM 5/7/2007, you wrote:
Where did you get your Warp Drive Prop dynamically balanced? I spoke with
one the fellows at Warp Drive, and he said they balanced props statically. Thanks
for your response.
A local FBO did it. Cruisair in Ramona. Most large FBO's have the capability to
dynamically balance, it's fairly common for spam cans. A warning, though. It's
expensive, (~$200,) and I noticed little difference. I think if you do a really
good and conscientious static balance you'll be fine.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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Subject: | wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 |
Another problem to consider is ethanol in auto fuel. Ethanol will
disolve some sloshing compounds and will also swell the rubber on many
essential components such as fuel lines and older style rubber tipped
float valves on Bing carbs. Here in Texas the State mandates that all
auto fuel be at least 10% ethanol. The only other source for straight
auto fuel in Texas is marine fuel.
________________________________
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Lynn Matteson
Sent: Tue 5/8/2007 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4
I've got 275+ hours on my Kreem'd tanks...no problems yet...and I'm
using automotive SAE R7 or R9, can't recall which. Per Skystar's
instructions, I thoroughly cleaned the tanks with acetone, then
sloshed the tanks with Kreem. On my can of Kreem, the usual
disclaimer can be found: "Not for use in aircraft...."
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/275+ hrs
do not archive
On May 7, 2007, at 11:51 AM, Leon Morris wrote:
> I have read in Kitfox Builder of many problems with the fiberglass
> tanks that have been sloshed with Kreem and fuel lines that are
> actually hydraulic lines. Is this just with autogas use? Should I
> get rid of them or use avgas only or try to find plastic tanks and
> gas fuel lines?
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List_-
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Subject: | 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly |
Sky Star previously sold the throtle assembly, Mine is a common vernier
throtle that I cut to fit. It only has to reach the spliting mechanism.
Choke assemblies can be had at various motorcycle shops that sell
models with two carbs, or look for a motorcycle parts supply on the
internet for a split choke assembly... mine needs replacing as well so
I'll let you know what I find.
________________________________
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of alnanarthur
Sent: Tue 5/8/2007 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly
On May 7, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Gerald Jantzi wrote:
I am still trying to get information on what I should order an from
where. need throttle ,choke cable Assembly . need everything from
cockpit to carburetors. for kitfox 5 with rotax 912ul. is there any
model 5 drivers that can give me some input. thanks gerry
Sportplane LLC is Info@sportplanellc.com <mailto:Info@sportplanellc.com>
Kitfox LLC is info@kitfoxaircraft.com <mailto:info@kitfoxaircraft.com>
John McBean is john@kitfoxaircraft.com <mailto:john@kitfoxaircraft.com>
Debra McBean is debra@kitfoxaircraft.com
<mailto:debra@kitfoxaircraft.com>
and finally the telephone is 208 337-5111 and the fax is 208 337-5116
The web page is http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/contact.htm
<http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/contact.htm>
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Subject: | Re: High Altitude |
With O2, I took my turbo subaru to 17,900 and she would have kept going.
Still had a 500FPM climb going. What was even a better Kodak pic was the
GPS showing 165GS. That didn't last when I made the turn back......long
decent for sure. Still glad I did it that once. I called mid field at
that altitude at L35. No one said a word. Probably thought someone was
just messing around.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kitfoxmike
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:58 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: High Altitude
Yup, these little birds are real nice. I've taken mine up to 11000
without trouble. I like taking off from my field, which is at 2000ft
agl and turn out at the end of the runway and climb to 1000ft agl to
clear the hill(2900agl) off to the right, am usually at 1000 agl by the
time I go over the radio towers. The breath taker is when I'm at a
field that is in a hole and I take off, level after take off and get the
speed up to 80 ias and pull up and turn out, generally 45 bank, Zoom up
and over the trees, very fun.
--------
kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse
Do not archive
Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly |
Due to the recent development of the light sport RV-12, Van's Aircraft has developed
what looks to be a solid choke pull for the cockpit. The new -12 is using
the Rotax 912s. I just got a brief look at it, but it is said to make the pull
a little easier...I'm looking into it.
FWIW
Dan B
Mesa, AZ
Kitfox IV , Building
Paul Kates <paul.kates@pathfinderlwd.com> wrote:
Sky Star previously sold the throtle assembly, Mine is a common vernier throtle
that I cut to fit. It only has to reach the spliting mechanism. Choke assemblies
can be had at various motorcycle shops that sell models with two carbs,
or look for a motorcycle parts supply on the internet for a split choke assembly...
mine needs replacing as well so I'll let you know what I find.
________________________________
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of alnanarthur
Sent: Tue 5/8/2007 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly
On May 7, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Gerald Jantzi wrote:
I am still trying to get information on what I should order an from where. need
throttle ,choke cable Assembly . need everything from cockpit to carburetors.
for kitfox 5 with rotax 912ul. is there any model 5 drivers that can give me
some input. thanks gerry
Sportplane LLC is Info@sportplanellc.com
Kitfox LLC is info@kitfoxaircraft.com
John McBean is john@kitfoxaircraft.com
Debra McBean is debra@kitfoxaircraft.com
and finally the telephone is 208 337-5111 and the fax is 208 337-5116
The web page is http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/contact.htm
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Subject: | Re: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4 |
Except for about 3 gallons of mogas in an emergency, I've stuck to
100LL for all of the life of my Jabiru engine. They allow mogas after
50 hours, but this means having to deal with lugging gas at some
airports, so I'd rather use the 100LL and be done with it.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/275+ hrs
On May 8, 2007, at 8:21 PM, Paul Kates wrote:
> Another problem to consider is ethanol in auto fuel. Ethanol will
> disolve some sloshing compounds and will also swell the rubber on
> many essential components such as fuel lines and older style rubber
> tipped float valves on Bing carbs. Here in Texas the State
> mandates that all auto fuel be at least 10% ethanol. The only
> other source for straight auto fuel in Texas is marine fuel.
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Lynn
> Matteson
> Sent: Tue 5/8/2007 8:33 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: wing tanks and fuel lines Classic 4
>
>
>
> I've got 275+ hours on my Kreem'd tanks...no problems yet...and I'm
> using automotive SAE R7 or R9, can't recall which. Per Skystar's
> instructions, I thoroughly cleaned the tanks with acetone, then
> sloshed the tanks with Kreem. On my can of Kreem, the usual
> disclaimer can be found: "Not for use in aircraft...."
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/275+ hrs
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Subject: | 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly |
We also offer a simple choke design that works very well
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dan Billingsley
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:32 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly
Due to the recent development of the light sport RV-12, Van's Aircraft has
developed what looks to be a solid choke pull for the cockpit. The new -12
is using the Rotax 912s. I just got a brief look at it, but it is said to
make the pull a little easier...I'm looking into it.
FWIW
Dan B
Mesa, AZ
Kitfox IV , Building
Paul Kates <paul.kates@pathfinderlwd.com> wrote:
Sky Star previously sold the throtle assembly, Mine is a common vernier
throtle that I cut to fit. It only has to reach the spliting mechanism.
Choke assemblies can be had at various motorcycle shops that sell models
with two carbs, or look for a motorcycle parts supply on the internet for a
split choke assembly... mine needs replacing as well so I'll let you know
what I find.
________________________________
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of alnanarthur
Sent: Tue 5/8/2007 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly
On May 7, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Gerald Jantzi wrote:
I am still trying to get information on what I should order an from where.
need throttle ,choke cable Assembly . need everything from cockpit to
carburetors. for kitfox 5 with rotax 912ul. is there any model 5 drivers
that can give me some input. thanks gerry
Sportplane LLC is Info@sportplanellc.com
Kitfox LLC is info@kitfoxaircraft.com
John McBean is john@kitfoxaircraft.com
Debra McBean is debra@kitfoxaircraft.com
and finally the telephone is 208 337-5111 and the fax is 208 337-5116
The web page is http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/contact.htm
PM
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Subject: | request for help |
John heres a picture or two of the glasswork to make a redrive VW fit. It
was bulky looking at first, but looks great on the field now.
Ron NB Ore MK IV Speedster, 1915cc VW, 1.6:1 redrive, 72" Ivo ~60
hours
>From: <josandt@verizon.net>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: request for help
>Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 10:43:37 -0500 (CDT)
>
>
>Is someone out there willing to measure the diameter of their "bump" style
>round cowl? I don't know whether I can fit it over my alternative engine
>(Corvair). I need the diameter of the front opening and the diameter of the
>rear where it passes over the engine cover (where it is fastened to the
>balance of the cowl). I contacted Kitfox directly but they weren't able to
>provide this info. (I'm sure they have their hands full) Anyone currently
>have their cowling off who could help? It would be much appreciated. Hate
>to order one, just to find out that I can't use it. (Builder)
>
>John Sandt / Kitfox 7 / Tri-gear / Corvair / BRS / Ridgecrest, CA
>
>
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Subject: | 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly |
John,
Can't find it on your web page catalog. Where is it?
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jdmcbean
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:01 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly
We also offer a simple choke design that works very well
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dan Billingsley
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:32 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly
Due to the recent development of the light sport RV-12, Van's Aircraft has
developed what looks to be a solid choke pull for the cockpit. The new -12
is using the Rotax 912s. I just got a brief look at it, but it is said to
make the pull a little easier...I'm looking into it.
FWIW
Dan B
Mesa, AZ
Kitfox IV , Building
Paul Kates <paul.kates@pathfinderlwd.com> wrote:
Sky Star previously sold the throtle assembly, Mine is a common vernier
throtle that I cut to fit. It only has to reach the spliting mechanism.
Choke assemblies can be had at various motorcycle shops that sell models
with two carbs, or look for a motorcycle parts supply on the internet for a
split choke assembly... mine needs replacing as well so I'll let you know
what I find.
________________________________
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of alnanarthur
Sent: Tue 5/8/2007 11:23 AM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: 912 ul throtlle choke cabel assembly
On May 7, 2007, at 6:56 PM, Gerald Jantzi wrote:
I am still trying to get information on what I should order an from where.
need throttle ,choke cable Assembly . need everything from cockpit to
carburetors. for kitfox 5 with rotax 912ul. is there any model 5 drivers
that can give me some input. thanks gerry
Sportplane LLC is Info@sportplanellc.com
Kitfox LLC is info@kitfoxaircraft.com
John McBean is john@kitfoxaircraft.com
Debra McBean is debra@kitfoxaircraft.com
and finally the telephone is 208 337-5111 and the fax is 208 337-5116
The web page is http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/contact.htm
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