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1. 09:21 AM - Is there a better way to hang the doors on a 7 (George Michaels)
2. 10:21 AM - Re: Straight Breakers vs. Breaker Switch? (Bob)
3. 11:17 AM - Re: Straight Breakers vs. Breaker Switch? (n85ae)
4. 01:17 PM - Re: Straight Breakers vs. Breaker Switch? (darinh)
5. 03:50 PM - Re: Straight Breakers vs. Breaker Switch? (crazyivan)
6. 04:12 PM - Re: Re: Straight Breakers vs. Breaker Switch? (Don Smythe)
7. 04:55 PM - Re: Delaminating aileron traling edge (kurt schrader)
8. 05:44 PM - Re: Delaminating aileron traling edge (kitfoxmike)
9. 07:43 PM - gas cap venting (Malcolmbru@AOL.COM)
10. 07:57 PM - Phoenix area (john oakley)
11. 11:16 PM - Rotax 582 failure (semi off-topic) (Michel Verheughe)
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| Subject: | Is there a better way to hang the doors on a 7 |
Standard way of the hinge mount, does someone have a better and easier solution.
Possible removable doors? If you have a picture that would be great.
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| Subject: | Re: Straight Breakers vs. Breaker Switch? |
+1 on the Bob Nuckols website and guidance, especially these days in airplanes
with electronic ignition or fuel control. Unlike the days where the mags would
keep the fan turning, circuit design has become truly important even for VFR
airplanes. For example, the Diamond diesel twin was just AD'd after a couple
of flight instructors took off with near-dead batteries and found that retracting
the gear reduced the buss voltage enough to kill the controls for BOTH engines.
Circuit protection, be it CB or fuse, is not a personal convenience. The protection
is sized to protect the wire used, NOT for whatever is at the end of the
wire. I've seen shorted wires light paper scraps and lint on fire. Non-aviation
wire insulations can actually catch fire or melt off, posing their own hazard.
The other thing that is often ignored is that the CB or fuse provides a
last-ditch chance to kill a circuit manually. If the contacts in the switch
for your electric trim just failed in the closed position, you would probably
want to be able to pull the breaker ASAP.
Bob
A&P, Aero Eng
Series 5 Vixen in-work
Gaithersburg, MD
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| Subject: | Re: Straight Breakers vs. Breaker Switch? |
Use little fuses, and big wires, and chances are you'll never have a fire,
plus they rarely ever break for no reason.
Use switch breakers if you like changing parts all the time. These things
are garbage at best. At least the ones I have seen.
Use regular breakers if you like replacing parts on occasion. I changed
a bunch of these when I was in the Navy, a BUNCH. They break a lot.
Regards,
Jeff Hays
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| Subject: | Re: Straight Breakers vs. Breaker Switch? |
Great info guys! I have ordered the Aeroelectric book from Bob so hopefully that
will set alot of this straight in my head.
Darin Hawkes
Series 7 (in progress)
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| Subject: | Re: Straight Breakers vs. Breaker Switch? |
Solid advice on this thread. The only thing I disagree with is John's (no offense
intended) recommendation about putting automotive breakers under the dash.
Automotive fuse boxes are made from plastic (or some sort of non-aviation polycarbonate)
and automoticve grade wire. If this catches fire then you'll have some
toxic fumes quickly accumulating.
As for mounting it under the dash, if you lose some equipment or suspect an electrical
problem, being able to see which breaker tripped greatly aides in troubleshooting
your in-flight malfunction/emergency.
Again, no offense John. This is just my opinion and it's worth the proverbial
2 cents.
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Dave
Speedster 912 UL
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| Subject: | Re: Straight Breakers vs. Breaker Switch? |
I agree that being able to get to the fuse box "might" be helpful in flight.
See the attached pic of my panel. On the far right you see a rectangular
area in the face of the instrument panel. There is a small knob at the top
that opens the door. Behind the door are the automotive blade fuse holders.
There are also extra fuses in that area. You can open this door in flight
and get access to the fuses. There is also an emergency bypass switch
behind the door that will bypass the master solenoid if that solenoid should
fail in flight. You can regain connection from the battery to the main buss
if the solenoid fail.
Don Smythe
----- Original Message -----
From: "crazyivan" <dmivezic@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 6:49 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Straight Breakers vs. Breaker Switch?
>
> Solid advice on this thread. The only thing I disagree with is John's (no
> offense intended) recommendation about putting automotive breakers under
> the dash.
>
> Automotive fuse boxes are made from plastic (or some sort of non-aviation
> polycarbonate) and automoticve grade wire. If this catches fire then
> you'll have some toxic fumes quickly accumulating.
>
> As for mounting it under the dash, if you lose some equipment or suspect
> an electrical problem, being able to see which breaker tripped greatly
> aides in troubleshooting your in-flight malfunction/emergency.
>
> Again, no offense John. This is just my opinion and it's worth the
> proverbial 2 cents.
>
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> Dave
> Speedster 912 UL
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=114278#114278
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Delaminating aileron traling edge |
I riveted mine every 3" just to be sure. Used pop
rivets, trimmed and mashed them to keep them small and
wide. Not as good as Don S, but strong and no
worries.
Squeeze a little epoxy in the seperated parts before
riveting. Something you can do in plenty of time
before your checkride.
And I agree with adding drain holes in the bottom back
behind each hinge. Think mine are 1/4" holes. Make
sure to do this carefully so as not to ding or
penetrate the top skin. Put a stop on your drill and
tape on the bottom skin so it doesn't get scratched as
you drill into it.
Kurt S.
S-5 NSI turbo
Florida and Panama
--- wingnut <wingnut@spamarrest.com> wrote:
> The tailing edge of my ailerons are riveted at about
> six inch intervals and glued. Is this typical?
Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the
Yahoo! Auto Green Center.
http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
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| Subject: | Re: Delaminating aileron traling edge |
you guys are going way over board on this. I used an426ad3-3.5 rivets, I have
a bunch with my vans rv7 kit. I used a deburing tool and countersunk the top
of the aileron and then put in a rivet and sqeezed them. I do 90degree banking
turns, I do pull up at 90mph off the runway, I work this plane and no problems
with this setup. Mine are spaced 6 inch. apart and no glue. I average 350hrs.
a year on the plane, the last time I had to put in a rivet was about a year
ago. That's when I put them in there for the first time this way. Hope this
helps.
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse
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my new gas cap came today. it is the same brand Eaton with the same type of
s steal vent tube welded to it , but the new one is drilled all the way
threw the cap and welded from the inside as well, then the old vent holes on
the inside are welded shut it is much easer to blow thru the new one. my old
cap's are welded from the top only they aren't drilled all the way threw and
the bottom is left alone.
I am a little worried about gas spilling out the gas cap vent of the
new cap my old one has never leaked
Last week I flew for 1 11/2 hr and the left tank went dry. the other
tank had air bubbles in the hose and I could see air bubbles on the header
tank vent line running up and down the hose I was kind of worried about
running out of gas. mal KF11
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I and my fox speedster 4 are going to Goodyear this week, anyone in the
area? I was thinking someone there wanted a view or ride.
John Oakley
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| Subject: | Rotax 582 failure (semi off-topic) |
If somebody is interested, here are the close views of the 582 that
went amok.
http://rolf.nossum.net/582.broken.rod/
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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