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1. 01:37 AM - Soldatna AK (cy)
2. 04:45 AM - Re: Re: IO240 prop (W Duke)
3. 05:50 AM - Re: Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance for Classic IV (Lynn Matteson)
4. 06:00 AM - Fw: West Michigan Fly-In This Weekend at Allegan!...off topic (Lynn Matteson)
5. 06:28 AM - Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance for Classic IV (kitfoxmike)
6. 07:24 AM - Re: Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance for Classic IV (Lowell Fitt)
7. 08:37 AM - Re: Soldatna AK (akflyer)
8. 08:51 AM - Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance for Classic IV (Joel)
9. 08:58 AM - Re: Soldatna AK (eskflyer)
10. 09:23 AM - Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance for Classic IV (kitfoxmike)
11. 10:38 AM - Re: Nose wheel and weight (Michael Gibbs)
12. 11:03 AM - was Nose wheel and weight - Michel Gibbs (Jose M. Toro)
13. 12:04 PM - Performance figures on California trip...off topic (Lynn Matteson)
14. 12:14 PM - Skis for sale (Michel Verheughe)
15. 12:16 PM - Re: Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance for Classic IV (Noel Loveys)
16. 12:20 PM - Re: Performance figures on California trip...off topic (Michel Verheughe)
17. 12:29 PM - Re: Model V Info (Noel Loveys)
18. 03:40 PM - Re: Performance figures on California trip...off topic (Lynn Matteson)
19. 03:53 PM - Re: Performance figures on California trip...off topic (kitfoxmike)
20. 04:28 PM - Re: Model V Info (kirk hull)
21. 05:38 PM - Arlington 2007 ()
22. 06:46 PM - Re: Re: Performance figures on California trip...off topic (Lynn Matteson)
23. 08:03 PM - Fw: Concerning Kitfox Group visit to Golden West EAA Fly-in (Lowell Fitt)
24. 08:58 PM - Re: Arlington 2007 (mic thiessen)
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Does anyone have the email address of the KF listers/pilots in Soldatna, AK?
Thanx
cy
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Thanks anyway, I guess I will have to wait.
Maxwell
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n85ae <n85ae@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, I wasn't planning to sell it, but if you are willing to pay me $5K
I'll overnite fedex the one on my plane :)
None here.
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance for Classic IV |
When I did the loading for my recent trip, I weighed everything that
went into the plane. As much as I could, I put things that weren't
immediately necessary into the baggage sack. My sack has a capacity
of 40 lbs, and I loaded 39 lbs and 10 ounces into it. One day later,
I swapped places between my clothes bag and my sleeping bag, which
put the heavier clothes bag up in front of the seat. (I had removed
the right-side stick for the trip) This configuration put me well
within the CG range no matter what the fuel situation, or possible
passenger situation....barring anyone over about 220 lbs, I think.
And most of the time that I would have a passenger, I'd have all the
camping gear out of the plane. This is with the normal taildragger on
a IV.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/over 340 hrs
On Jun 20, 2007, at 10:42 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote:
> <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I wonder if I am mis-reading some of the previous posts on this
> subject. I guess I'm a bit out of sync with some of them.
>
> Are those that are doing a W&B before each flight actually flying
> Kitfoxes? There was a freighter that went down East of Sacramento
> ten years or so ago due to a mis\-ballanced airplane or shifting
> cargo, but is anyone aware of a Kitfox going down due to a loading
> problem. I am curious now. Have I been doing this all wrong or am
> I just mis reading some of the comments.
>
> Lowell Fitt
> Cameron Park, CA
> Model IV-1200 R-912 UL Warp
> 1998 870 hrs.
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| Subject: | Fwd: West Michigan Fly-In This Weekend at Allegan!...off |
topic
Kitfox owner (and it's beautiful!) John May asked me to get this word
out regarding a fly-in at Padgham Field (35D) at Allegan, Michigan.
I've been to this field personally, but not to a fly-in...I'll be
there for this one.
Lynn
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>
> West Michigan Fly-In This Weekend!
> This Saturday, June 23rd, beginning at 7:00 am is the West Michigan
> Fly-In. You won't want to miss this year's event. With
> sponsorship by Huntington Bank, we will be offering a small air
> show performance by a T6 Texan and local skydivers. Rides will be
> available by the Kalamazoo EAA Chapter for young eagles (children
> 8-17 years of age), Dodgen Aircraft rides for $10.00 per person,
> Introductory Flight Lessons in a Cessna 152 for $35.00 for a half
> hour of flight lessons and a logbook, T6 Warbird and Pitts
> aerobatic rides, and helicopter rides.
>
> The US Coast Guard Rescue dolphin helicopter is scheduled to arrive
> around 8:30 am and be here for the day. The Bronson/Borgess Air
> Care dolphin helicopter will join us during the day. A classic car
> show will go on throughout the day.
>
> Multiple food vendors will be on site for the day. The Allegan
> Lions club will provide a pancake breakfast and the Allegan Rotary
> club will provide a hotdog and brat lunch. Other vendors will have
> BBQ food, corn dogs, coffee, pop, lemonade, and much much more, you
> won't go hungry!
>
> Friday will be a setup and press viewing day. We will be shutting
> our sod runway down at noon on Friday, so setup will begin then and
> continue through the afternoon. If you would like to help setup,
> we can always use extra help, come on out!
>
> We have scheduled a full day of Pitts training and rides for Sunday
> the 24th. Sorry that there are no more slots available for those
> of you that might be interested on that day, but please keep in
> contact with us if you would like to schedule for upcoming days.
> We will be offering more of these days very soon! For those of
> you who are signed up already you can look forward to a very fun
> day of flying with Eric in the Pitts.
>
> Quick Notes: The Champ is still for sale, price reduced to
> $33,500.00. Two hangars still available at the Allegan Airport.
>
> See you all this weekend for a growing event at the Allegan Airport!
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance for Classic IV |
Lowell,
THe only thing I see you doing wrong is putting the paperwork under your seat.
Suppose to be out in view of anybody entering your airplane. I sit mine on the
back opening to the luggage, in a plastic baggy.
My fox is configured for 30lb in the back two 170lb each pass and pilot and two
13 gal tanks.
--------
kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
enough"
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| Subject: | Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance for Classic IV |
Mike,
As I understand it, the registration has to be in plain view. That is
postioned appropriately with a reduced size copy of the airworthiness cert.
The registration cert. is on top. The original full size documents are
under the seat cushion. I have never seen an airplane with an 8-1/2"X11"
document in full view anywhere in the cockpit.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "kitfoxmike" <customtrans@qwest.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:27 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance for Classic IV
>
> Lowell,
> THe only thing I see you doing wrong is putting the paperwork under your
> seat. Suppose to be out in view of anybody entering your airplane. I sit
> mine on the back opening to the luggage, in a plastic baggy.
>
> My fox is configured for 30lb in the back two 170lb each pass and pilot
> and two 13 gal tanks.
>
> --------
> kitfoxmike
> model IV, 1200
> speedster
> 912ul
> building
> RV7a
> slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
> "if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not
> flying enough"
> Do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=119818#119818
>
>
>
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mine is
akflyer_2000@yahoo.com
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Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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| Subject: | Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance for Classic IV |
My initial W&B calculations had me a little concerned as I was near the forward
CG limit with a light pilot, but I have since come to appreciate the configuration
as I flew with 150 lbs of granite in the cargo bin of my model 5 during
phase 1 testing and was not quite fully aft CG. The plane wouldn't actually stall
at 3000 rpm (912uls) but just gently porpoise in an easy descent. All that
may change once she goes on floats. :)
--------
Joel Mapes Kitfox 5 912 ULS Aerocomp amphibs
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Hello there
Mine is
eskflyer@yahoo.com
cell phone 580-695-8778
Soldotna , Ak 99669
Give a shout if you are up here and well go flying and fishing .
--------
FLY FUN FLY LOW FLY SLOW
John Perry
Kitfox 2 N718PD
582 cbox 2:62-1 IVO IFA
WHEELS Northair Floats
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| Subject: | Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance for Classic IV |
Lowell
my mistake, I thought you were putting all your paperwork under the seat. I find
it easier to just fold up the paperwork and put it all with the airworthiness
stuff.
--------
kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
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| Subject: | Re: Nose wheel and weight |
Lowell asks:
>Are those that are doing a W&B before each flight actually flying Kitfoxes?
The FAA will tell you that you are required to determine the weight
and balance of the airplane prior to any flight. In practice,
though, you've already done that by calculating the worst case
forward and aft loading when the plane was built. I guess it all
depends upon what the inspector thinks during your ramp check or what
the insurance adjuster thinks when he's deciding if you get a check
after an accident.
Murle Williams has a weight & balance spreadsheet on this web site
that includes nose wheel figures suitable for Model IV and later
Kitfoxes: <http://murlewilliamsaviation.com/downloads.html>.
Mike G.
Kitfox List Mom
N728KF
Phoenix, AZ
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| Subject: | was Nose wheel and weight - Michel Gibbs |
Michael:
What is the status of your new project?
Best Regards!
Jos
----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:37:26 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Nose wheel and weight
Lowell asks:
>Are those that are doing a W&B before each flight actually flying Kitfoxes?
The FAA will tell you that you are required to determine the weight
and balance of the airplane prior to any flight. In practice,
though, you've already done that by calculating the worst case
forward and aft loading when the plane was built. I guess it all
depends upon what the inspector thinks during your ramp check or what
the insurance adjuster thinks when he's deciding if you get a check
after an accident.
Murle Williams has a weight & balance spreadsheet on this web site
that includes nose wheel figures suitable for Model IV and later
Kitfoxes: <http://murlewilliamsaviation.com/downloads.html>.
Mike G.
Kitfox List Mom
N728KF
Phoenix, AZ
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| Subject: | Performance figures on California trip...off topic |
I did some number bashing just now, and came up with the following:
(all mile figures are statute miles)
getting there (Grass Lake, MI to Auburn, CA, via Hondo,
TX).......................3211.5 miles...............35.9 hours
flying time
flying while there (around the Auburn, Davis, Woodland, Cameron Park,
Eagles Nest, Sacramento, Dunnigan,
Rumsey, and Truckee-Tahoe areas....................................
764 miles.....................8.5 hours
coming back
home...............................................................
2185.5 miles................18.2 hours
total miles covered during entire
trip..................................6161 miles
total time spent in the
air.............................................................62.6
hours
total days spent on
trip.................................................................23
average speed of all flying........................................
98.4 miles per hour (you "knot junkies" can figure it out...if I
wanted to talk knots, I'd have built a boat) : )
fuel stops (including top-off at my hangar after
trip)......................18
fuel
used....................................................................
...........................246.03 gallons
fuel
costs...................................................................
..........................$1004.23 (US Dollars)
fuel price.....high / low / average................$4.53 @ Kearney,
NB / $3.28 at home, based on last year's cost when I bought 250
gallons bulk...otherwise, $3.60 at first stop in Tell City, Indiana /
$4.08 avg.
miles per gallon.........................................25.04
gallons per hour..........................................3.93
cost per mile............................................$0.163
Incidentals: 3 nights spent in a tent
12 nights spent at homes of friends...thanks, Duane and
Jimmie, and of course, Caroline, and Doris....they had to burn the
sheets after I left.
7 nights spent in motels
If I can find any more ridiculous minutia to post, I will...you can
bank on it. :)
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/350+ hrs
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Hello guys,
On behalf of Gary Algate who is no longer monitoring this list, I'd
like to forward the email that he sent me:
> I am looking to sell my skis as I am returning to Australia and was
> wondering if you would mind posting them on the Kitfox site as I don't
> monitor it anymore.
> Turbulence Fiberglass main skis with mounting for Model 4 (Quick
> change only 4 x bolts)
> Tail ski
> Excellent condition with only one season - they work great and look
> really smart.
> Price CD$500.00 - Barrie , Ontario
>
> Gary Algate
> Business Development Manager - USC
> Sandvik
> Office Phone: +1 705 733 5237
Cheers,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance for Classic IV |
Lowell you are correct on all accounts. You can certainly do your W&B
for
most forward and most rearward loading situations and as you said
providing
you don't put more than 25lb in your cargo area you're good to go.
This is not a standard empty weight W&B similar to what you used to do.
As
you mentioned when you use the standard W&B form you will have to W&B
calculations before every flight.
My aircraft was weighed and the Empty weight CG was calculated as was a
forward most CG ( gas in the header and an 85 lb. pilot. The maximum
weight
was also calculated (full tanks and something like 250lb in the front
seats
and 50 lb in the cargo cabinet behind the seats). As I mentioned to
Michel
on floats as the weight increases the back of the floats sink lower....
All
I really need to do is check the back of the floats before take off....
If
they are under water I'm over weight and also out of W&B.
Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern
Campbellton, Newfoundland,
Canada
Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA
Aerocet 1100s
<mailto:noelloveys@yahoo.ca> noelloveys@yahoo.ca
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Lowell Fitt
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:12 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance
> for Classic IV
>
>
> <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I wonder if I am mis-reading some of the previous posts on
> this subject. I
> guess I'm a bit out of sync with some of them.
>
> When I licensed, I weighed/calculated for most adverse
> forward CG and most
> adverse aft CG. Basically that limits me to about 25 pounds
> in my baggage
> area. This info is in a packet with the airworthiness
> certificate and
> resides under the seat cushion. With that known, any combination of
> passengers, cargo and fuel load is OK as long as the baggage
> sack is loaded
> under 25 lbs. and I am not over gross (which calculation I
> can pretty much
> do in my head just by looking at my passenger. With that in
> mind, when I go
> on one of the protracted cross countrys, I pack most personal
> gear in a back
> pack that is strapped in the passenger seat. Then a careful
> loading of
> ultra light back packing gear - four pound tent and 1.5 pound
> sleeping bag
> etc. goes in the baggage sack - well under 25 lbs. I haven't
> done a W&B
> calculation since I changed to the aluminum spring gear back
> in about 2000.
> Personally, I don't feel that I am an unsafe pilot for doing
> it this way.
>
> When I worked for UAL for a time, I was what they called a
> SOR, basically a
> flight planner. I did W&B calculations for a living but
> these airplanes
> spread the payload over a long tube - souls and cargo and a
> manifest for
> each flight was required by law before departure and under
> the circumsances
> was most certainly prudent. Sometimes we had to block seats
> and or move
> passengers. Sometimes the aft cargo pit was not used. It
> all depended on
> the specific situation - fuel load along a swept wing, etc.
>
> Are those that are doing a W&B before each flight actually
> flying Kitfoxes?
> There was a freighter that went down East of Sacramento ten
> years or so ago
> due to a mis\-ballanced airplane or shifting cargo, but is
> anyone aware of a
> Kitfox going down due to a loading problem. I am curious
> now. Have I been
> doing this all wrong or am I just mis reading some of the comments.
>
> Lowell Fitt
> Cameron Park, CA
> Model IV-1200 R-912 UL Warp
> 1998 870 hrs.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike" <mclayton@rochester.rr.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 5:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance
> for Classic IV
>
>
> Noel,
>
> As a practical matter, we do basically the same thing. For various
> configurations, we have weight and balance info. This info is always
> reviewed pre-flight to make sure that we have the flight
> configuration and the weight and balance in sync. Also, we have the
> weight and balance data with us as soon as the aircraft is rolled out
> of the hangar, in the event of a ramp check. Again, all data needs
> to be logged, and checked pre-flight to insure safety. An airplane
> that is out of weight and balance limits is not safe to fly. In my
> mind this is one of the most basic things a pilot can do to ensure a
> safe flight, along with the rest of the pre-fight checklist.
>
> Mike
>
> mclayton@rochester.rr.com
> Mobile: 585-737-5506
> 8 Adams Trail
> Spencerport, NY 14559
> N16AF (KF II Rebuild in Progress)
>
>
> On Jun 20, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
>
> > North of the 49th we are allowed to have a second or third W&B in
> > reserve to cover the different gear configurations... Just helps
> > keep the paperwork, which can be considerable, down. The flight
> > log designates which W&B is in effect at any given time.
> > Helicopters and spray plane may also have additional W&B reports to
> > designate the installation of different equipment.
> >
> > Noel
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-
> > list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:14 AM
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance for
> > Classic IV
> >
> > Something that might be helpful....
> >
> > On the FAA website, you can find something called the "Weight and
> > Balance Handbook" It does a good job of explaining the concepts,
> > and gives you all the information necessary to determine weight and
> > balance for your aircraft. As others have said, it is a very easy
> > process to go through.
> >
> > My job involves running flight operations for an experimental
> > aircraft, where we frequently change the aircraft configuration and
> > therefore weight and balance. We maintain a spreadsheet on the
> > computer, which allows us to put in the necessary information to
> > accurately calculate W&B for any aircraft configuration, with a few
> > simple measurements: Weight and Distance of the Weight from the
> > Datum of the aircraft. When we preflight the aircraft, we always
> > review the W&B data to make sure that the CG is within the range
> > specified by the manufacturer.
> >
> > All of this takes very little time, and is easy to do. It will be
> > one of the key things that will help to assure a safe flight. I
> > highly recommend it!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > mclayton@rochester.rr.com
> > Mobile: 585-737-5506
> > 8 Adams Trail
> > Spencerport, NY 14559
> > N16AF (KF II Rebuild in Progress)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 19, 2007, at 4:11 PM, JC Propellerdesign wrote:
> >
> >> Sure you can do it this way, (this is the normal way)
> >> just make sure that the plane is in the correct angle it should be
> >> weighted.
> >>
> >> Jan
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: josandt@verizon.net
> >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:42 PM
> >> Subject: Re: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance
> >> for Classic IV
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm going to show my ignorance here. Since the wheels are always
> >> located a set distance fore and aft, why can't one simply
> >> calculate weight and balance by examining relative weights on the
> >> wheels? Why can't you just put scales under all the wheels, then
> >> say nose wheel weight must not exceed a certain percentage of
> >> total weight to remain inside CG envelope? I know I'm probably
> >> missing something here (this being my first build), but what is it?
> >>
> >> John Sandt / KF7 / Trigear / Corvair / BRS / Ridgecrest, CA (land
> >> of fruits and nuts)
> >>
> >> <<Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance
> >> for <<Classic IV<<The only way I can see to find the CG is by
> >> mathematical <<calculation... Level the plane, weigh the muggly
> >> ugger and jump <<head first into the math.=C2 nbsp; Features
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| Subject: | Re: Performance figures on California trip...off topic |
On Jun 21, 2007, at 9:06 PM, Lynn Matteson wrote:
> average speed of all
> flying........................................98.4 miles per hour
That's not bad at all, Lynn. At what RPM are you cruising?
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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I can't help you with the three view drawing... I would have figured one
would have come with the building manual. Perhaps John McBean can be of
assistance for that.
As for the POH that is usually written by the manufacturer and includes
anything the manufacturer considers pertinent to the safe operation of
the
plane. I've seen one of the original manuals for the Piper Cub ( pre
Super
Cub) there was less info, and a lot less pages in it than in the average
owners manual on an entry level car. Basically, what I'm saying is
Write
your own POH but check with your local FAA office on what they would
like to
see in it. No doubt there will be some specific things like take off
procedure, T.O. and landing distances and emergency procedures.
Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern
Campbellton, Newfoundland,
Canada
Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA
Aerocet 1100s
<mailto:noelloveys@yahoo.ca> noelloveys@yahoo.ca
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> john oakley
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:59 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Model V Info
>
>
>
> Guy,
> I googled the other day looking for one for my fox 4 and
> behold one poped up
>
> John Oakley
> Fox 4 speedster short and long
> 912 ul with cap... working on supercharger for sea level performance
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Guy Buchanan
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:50 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Model V Info
>
>
> Hi all,
> I'm looking for two things for a buddy just finishing his
> model V/912ULS:
>
> 1. A three view drawing. (Required for registration or AC,
> I've forgotten.)
>
> and
>
> 2. A pilot's operating handbook.
>
> On the latter, we'd be happy to borrow one and copy,
> if necessary.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> San Diego, CA
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Performance figures on California trip...off topic |
Mostly about 2900-2950....sometimes I would see a 28XX, and would
twist in a few more rpm just to move things along.
As an aside, Michel, while I was at Auburn, CA, I removed the rocker
cover on the #1 cylinder...the one that had showed the greatest
rocker arm bushing wear a few weeks ago....and checked the valve
clearance. One valve was loose by .001". I called that good enough
(to not look any further), and re-set to .010", and put things back
together. Now that I'm home, I will pull all the covers and re-check
all valves.
To those that don't know the history of my engine, a Jabiru 2200,
about 6 weeks ago, I found the rocker arm bushings badly worn, and
changed the teflon-coated factory bushings for some brass bushings
that I got locally. I also drilled the rocker arms to allow for more
oil to reach the bushings. I don't know why my engine showed this
wear, as the Jabiru dealers don't show a history of this
problem....maybe mine was a lemon, I don't know. But my fix worked
well, as indicated by my trouble-free trip of 6000 miles and 60 hours.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/350+ hrs
On Jun 21, 2007, at 3:20 PM, Michel Verheughe wrote:
>
> On Jun 21, 2007, at 9:06 PM, Lynn Matteson wrote:
>> average speed of all flying........................................
>> 98.4 miles per hour
>
> That's not bad at all, Lynn. At what RPM are you cruising?
>
> Cheers,
> Michel Verheughe
> Norway
> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Re: Performance figures on California trip...off topic |
Lynn,
If I use your numbers, which are not too far from mine, I've gone 12000 miles so
far this year. Wow!
--------
kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
enough"
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Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=119922#119922
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Attached is the 3 view that came with my classic 4
_____
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel Loveys
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Model V Info
I can't help you with the three view drawing... I would have figured one
would have come with the building manual. Perhaps John McBean can be of
assistance for that.
As for the POH that is usually written by the manufacturer and includes
anything the manufacturer considers pertinent to the safe operation of the
plane. I've seen one of the original manuals for the Piper Cub ( pre Super
Cub) there was less info, and a lot less pages in it than in the average
owners manual on an entry level car. Basically, what I'm saying is Write
your own POH but check with your local FAA office on what they would like to
see in it. No doubt there will be some specific things like take off
procedure, T.O. and landing distances and emergency procedures.
Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern
Campbellton, Newfoundland,
Canada
Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA
Aerocet 1100s
noelloveys@yahoo.ca
Do not archive
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> john oakley
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:59 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Model V Info
>
>
>
> Guy,
> I googled the other day looking for one for my fox 4 and
> behold one poped up
>
> John Oakley
> Fox 4 speedster short and long
> 912 ul with cap... working on supercharger for sea level performance
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Guy Buchanan
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:50 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Model V Info
>
>
> Hi all,
> I'm looking for two things for a buddy just finishing his
> model V/912ULS:
>
> 1. A three view drawing. (Required for registration or AC,
> I've forgotten.)
>
> and
>
> 2. A pilot's operating handbook.
>
> On the latter, we'd be happy to borrow one and copy,
> if necessary.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> San Diego, CA
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
>
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I will be attending the Arlington fly in again this year and am looking
forward to meeting any other attendees from this forum. I will be found
in outdoor both #23 (Yakima Aerosports) but will be able to get loose
more as I am not the primary person in the booth this year. As usual
I'll keep the coffee on for all to share.
John Stoner
KF III, 582
Soldotna, Alaska
dcaofak@acsalaska.net
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| Subject: | Re: Performance figures on California trip...off topic |
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying...
Lynn
On Jun 21, 2007, at 6:53 PM, kitfoxmike wrote:
> <customtrans@qwest.net>
>
> Lynn,
> If I use your numbers, which are not too far from mine, I've gone
> 12000 miles so far this year. Wow!
>
> --------
> kitfoxmike
> model IV, 1200
> speedster
> 912ul
> building
> RV7a
> slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
> "if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then
> you're not flying enough"
> Do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=119922#119922
>
>
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| Subject: | Fw: Concerning Kitfox Group visit to Golden West EAA Fly-in |
I received the following email this evening and want to pass it on the the
group. I understand that most list members are outside the immediate area
of Marysville, but for those that have an interest, drop Irv a note.
A little background. I was contacted several times in the past by Golden
West's EAA organizers with the idea of moving the Cameron Park fly-in to the
Golden West venue (the genesis of the flight of 20 or so to Golden West).
My original thinking was that the more intimate location - my house in a
residential airpark - was more in keeping with what we were trying to do.
During our most recent fly-in (June 9 of this year), I was pleased to find
that John Gibson, President of the Golden West EAA fly-in, was in
attendance. Later in the day we had a round table discussion with many of
the Kitfox folks and he agreed that combining the events would probably not
work, but encouraged all to attend their event in Marysville.
Some good suggestions were made, among them that reserved tiedowns would be
available so the Kitfox group would be able to be close together. Other
suggestions may be implemented next year (possibly avoiding the 100 kt
airspeed in the pattern by allowing us to land at the ultra light field)
Based on the interest they have specifically shown to us, I would encourage
those able, to attend. Contact Irv for further information.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "irving eastin" <char2irve@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "Peter Requa" <peterrequa@goldenwestflyin.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:57 PM
Subject: Concerning Kitfox Group visit to Golden West EAA Fly-in
> Lowell. Good to talk to you this morning. We are putting together the
> final details for our Golden West EAA Regional Fly-in at Marysville, Ca
> on June 29,30 & July 1, 2007.
>
> I had heard several months ago that there was an effort afoot to bring a
> Group of Kitfox Aircraft to the Fly-in, possibly as many as 20-25
> aircraft. If so, we would like to set aside enough parking spaces to be
> able to accommodate all Kitfox planes in the same Area. I understand you
> are willing to send out a bulk e-mail to as many as 400 Kitfox owners in
> the area inviting these proud owners to Golden West. That's Great.
>
> I also understand that you are going to be out of town for some time
> beginning tomorrow. Under these circumstances I would gladly act as the
> "Point of Contact" and receive e-mail at my e mail address,
> char2irve@sbcglobal.net from all those planning on attending and would
> compile the final numbers along with their date of arrival and estimated
> time of arrival. Just so the Pilots know, there will be camping
> available, including bathrooms & showers with prior notification, as
> well as RV space and local Motels available, for those wishing to stay
> overnight.
>
> Anyone wishing further information can contact me at the above e-mail
> address.
>
> Lowell, thanks for the opportunity and hope to meet you during the
> Fly-in
>
>
> Irv Eastin
> LSA Coordinator
> Golden West EAA Fly-in
>
>
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I will also be attending Arlington as well this year. I will be camping
along the flight line with the EAA 1410 group. I think there will be about
5 trailers/tents. May see you there as we will be there from thursday thru
till saturday. We will look you up.
Mic Thiessen
Fox IV Speedster
C-FOXX
Subaru EA81
Canada
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>From: <dcaofak@acsalaska.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Arlington 2007
>Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:37:56 -0800
>
>I will be attending the Arlington fly in again this year and am looking
>forward to meeting any other attendees from this forum. I will be found in
>outdoor both #23 (Yakima Aerosports) but will be able to get loose more as
>I am not the primary person in the booth this year. As usual I'll keep the
>coffee on for all to share.
>John Stoner
>KF III, 582
>Soldotna, Alaska
>dcaofak@acsalaska.net
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