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1. 06:30 AM - Re: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4 (kitfoxmike)
2. 06:34 AM - Re: (Barry West)
3. 06:49 AM - Re: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4 (kitfoxmike)
4. 07:05 AM - Re: Re: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4 (Bob Waldron)
5. 08:02 AM - Re: No Title (Joel)
6. 08:22 AM - NWEAA Arlington Seaplane Base (Joel)
7. 08:50 AM - Re: Wheel balancing (RockyRim)
8. 09:47 AM - Re: Wheel balancing (kitfoxmike)
9. 10:13 AM - North-Aire Floats (eskflyer)
10. 02:12 PM - EGT mal function (michel dierick)
11. 03:13 PM - Re: EGT mal function (Michel Verheughe)
12. 05:10 PM - Re: Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance for Classic IV (icaza francisco)
13. 06:25 PM - Re: EGT mal function (eskflyer)
14. 10:05 PM - Re: EGT mal function (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
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| Subject: | Re: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4 |
once you get past the front mounts it's a plug and play.
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
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slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
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Thanks Randy, I'll let you and all the others know. Lockwood has the
carbs now.
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Daughenbaugh
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 2:31 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List:
Barry,
I see. I may be late figuring out what everyone else already has,
but.. It must be that the carbs are cold due to lots of gasoline being
evaporated. This is how icing is caused. And another symptom of "way
too rich"!
Can you report back when fixed? I am looking forward to hearing that
your engine is running great again.
Randy
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry West
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 6:37 AM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:
Randy and all, the temperature difference was a matter of feel, but
one was very obviously colder than the other.
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Daughenbaugh
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List:
Barry,
I don't understand what you mean by carburetor temperature. Where
do you measure it?
I like Rick's suggestion. It maybe that one float valve was better
able to contain the pressure than the other when there seemed to be a
difference from one side to the other.
Randy Daughenbaugh, N10NH
Black Hills of South Dakota, - Near Mount Rushmore
Home Strip, Grass Room in Hangar for visitors
Series 5/7 (7 Firewall Forward) 912S, Warp Drive Taper Tip
Gross Weight 1320 lbs, Flying since November 2004
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry West
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 8:37 AM
To: Kitfox List
Subject: Kitfox-List:
Engine Running Rough
In January, 2007 my Kitfox IV with a 912 S engine threw all three
blades of my GSC propeller. There was one big "bump," the engine
stopped and I landed without incidence. Observation of the engine
revealed that both carburetors came off and the engine mount was
damaged. I sent the gearbox to Lockwood and performed a runout test on
the crankshaft with no damage either indicated. After installing a new
propeller and engine mount, the engine ran fine for about 12 hours of
local flights.
Then, Saturday before last, June 16, during a Young Eagles rally,
the engine started running rough. It would idle smooth but became very
rough at about 3000 rpm. I suspected a kinked fuel line, removed the
fire shield, saw nothing, and replaced it. Then it ran smooth and I
flew it a few times with no problem. The next day I flew it about an
hour with no problem. Last Friday, June 22, I started it and it was
rough again at about 3000 rpm - I mean really rough and would not run at
a higher rpm. In both of these situations the right carburetor was
considerably cooler than the left.
At this point, I thought it appropriate to run a compression check
but when I removed the first spark plug I saw it was heavily coated with
soot. I removed all the plugs and they all were the same way. Then I
opened both carburetors, top and bottom, but could see nothing that
would cause the mixture to be rich. These plugs only had about 25 hours
on them. I installed a set of old but clean plugs and put the
carburetors back together, started the engine and this time it went to
about 4000 rpm before cutting out and running rough. Now the
carburetors are both about the same temperature. I removed the top
plugs and the ones on the left side were clean and the ones on the right
side were covered with soot.
What to do? I tend to believe the shock of losing the propeller
blades caused some kind of problem with the carburetors.
Barry West
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| Subject: | Re: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4 |
Bob,
I thought I would add that if you have the plastic line for the brakes, there is
enough, provided you have the gundrilled Grove. Meaning you just cut the line
where you need to and connect, just go down to the auto parts store and grab
some new inserts for the end of the hose.
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
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RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
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| Subject: | Re: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4 |
I removed the original landing gear yesterday and kept the plastic brake
line intact hoping to reuse.
-Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kitfoxmike
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 7:49 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Grove landing gear for Model 3/4
Bob,
I thought I would add that if you have the plastic line for the brakes,
there is enough, provided you have the gundrilled Grove. Meaning you just
cut the line where you need to and connect, just go down to the auto parts
store and grab some new inserts for the end of the hose.
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not
flying enough"
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Have you checked Rotax SB 912-053? A group of fuel pumps is suspected of delivering
excess fuel pressure which can cause rich conditions and rough running.
http://www.rotax-owner.com/si_tb_info/serviceb/sb-912-053.pdf
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Joel Mapes Kitfox 5 912 ULS Aerocomp amphibs
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| Subject: | NWEAA Arlington Seaplane Base |
Greetings Kitfoxers,
If you are planning to be at NWEAA Arlington this year be sure to visit the Seaplane
Base at Lake Goodwin Resort, about 7 miles west of the airport. A shuttle
will be running between the main gate at Arlington and the seaplane base Friday
thru Sunday. A Bratwurst dinner will be held at the lake on Friday 6:30pm.
A limited number of tickets are available through NWEAA for $7.50 per person.
The Seaplane Base for NWEAA exists through the efforts of the Washington Seaplane
Pilots Association, NWEAA, Lake Goodwin Resort and the Lake Goodwin Community.
http://nweaa.org/flying/Seaplane/?menu=flying%20in
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Joel Mapes Kitfox 5 912 ULS Aerocomp amphibs
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| Subject: | Re: Wheel balancing |
Well if anyone is interested there is also a yellow balance mark on most tubes.
This wasn't mentioned in my Sky^%$# instructions. In any case
yellow marks were 80 off on my tubes from stems and red tire marks.
Maybe everyone knew this but me. To Kitfoxmike, it's funny that when
I got home and read your suggestion about spinning the wheels with a
grinder, that's exactly what I had done that day. Works great!
Thunderstorms and gusts to 30mph. Taxi later. Thanks
Denise and Rocky Whitman
Kitfox 7 Phase One
Austin, Tx. Special Thanks to John and Debra
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| Subject: | Re: Wheel balancing |
Not a problem. I get to change my tires and I'm taking the rims to the tire place
and let them do it, I'm going to let them balance as well. I think since
I'm going with the king fox tires that I might have troubles after they brake
in,so to speak, they generally puff out a little more with use, then I'll probably
have to balance again with the grinder trick.
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
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| Subject: | North-Aire Floats |
http://store.wagaero.com/advanced_search_result.php?sessId=CE668D9E498FF2DAFEFC829548080340&keywords=North-Aire&search_in_description=1
For those of you interested , Wag Aero sells the plans for the North-Aire floats
. These are made from aluminum and you do all the work cutting bending rivetting
. However mine are made from a plug modeled from the North-aire plans. Glass
and vacumn bagged . There were 4 sets of these floats made from glass . They
have flown for hundreads hours on several different aircraft . They are very
light and tough .
Any ?'s
580-695-8778
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FLY FUN FLY LOW FLY SLOW
John Perry
Kitfox 2 N718PD
582 cbox 2:62-1 IVO IFA
WHEELS NorthAire Floats
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| Subject: | EGT mal function |
Hi everybody,
I'm new to this list and I already have a question for my Kitfox Classic III.
I just bought my Kitfox but have a problem with the EGT gauge. I - well - my
kitfox has the Rotax 582 engine. The EGT indicates the temperature of 1 cylinder,
not the second. In flight, the reading of the first cylinder also stops,
having no egt readings at all.
As I looked in the engine compartment, I see that the EGT probes are well connected
to the cylinder but both lines that are made of metal touch each other
while between de engine and the instrument.
Do I have to put some tape around them to avoid contact ?
How did you guys solve this problem.
Greetz,
Mchel Dierick "TheDailyFly" from Belgium where the weather isn't very "summer"
today.
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| Subject: | Re: EGT mal function |
On Jun 27, 2007, at 11:08 PM, michel dierick wrote:
> I'm new to this list and I already have a question for my Kitfox
> Classic III.
Hello Michel,
Well, I think we have a problem here :-) My name is also Michel and I
am also from Belgium, although I have been living 30 years in Norway.I
also have a Kitfox III which also had a 582 but now changed for a
Jabiru 2200. Incidentally, I think the Kitfox Classic is the model IV
and not III.
> Do I have to put some tape around them to avoid contact ?
Well, since the EGTs are thermo-couplers and measure a variation in
electrical resistance, it is certainly not good to have them shortcut.
But I fail to understand why this would show one working correctly and
the other showing nothing. Another thing is that the EGT probes have to
be connected to the exhaust manifold (hence the name) and not the
cylinders but I guess that's what you meant.
By the way, do you fly a Kitfox in Belgium? Under the experimental or
the UL rule? The reason I ask is that I know there are no Kitfox
registered in Belgium under the UL rule. You might be the first. I
always wondered why. Norway that has half the population of Belgium has
about six Kitfoxes in flying condition.
Greetings from Norway where the summer isn't much better either,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Re: Nose wheel and weight & balance for Classic IV |
Dear friends,
I apreciate very much all the responses my weight &
Balance question received.
Ive already made weight calculation during last
weekend but I will verify again some numbers next
saturday. I will reply when I have all numbers clear.
Thanks,
Francisco Icaza
Classic IV
Mexico City.
--- Noel Loveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca> escribi:
> I also do a post flight inspection. That's when the
> niggling little things
> I noticed during the flight are still fresh in my
> mind. Inspections are a
> great way to avoid problems, legal and otherwise.
>
> A description of exactly which W&B report is in
> effect has to be entered
> into the journey log for the airplane before it is
> allowed to fly with a new
> configuration.
>
> The running joke around here is when the paperwork
> is approximately equal to
> the weight of the plane it MAY be allowed to fly!
> My kitfox, flying, is
> almost there :-)
>
> Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern
> Campbellton, Newfoundland,
> Canada
> Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA
> Aerocet 1100s
> <mailto:noelloveys@yahoo.ca> noelloveys@yahoo.ca
>
>
> Do not archive
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:51 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Nose wheel and weight
> & balance for Classic IV
>
>
> Noel,
>
> As a practical matter, we do basically the same
> thing. For various
> configurations, we have weight and balance info.
> This info is always
> reviewed pre-flight to make sure that we have the
> flight configuration and
> the weight and balance in sync. Also, we have the
> weight and balance data
> with us as soon as the aircraft is rolled out of the
> hangar, in the event of
> a ramp check. Again, all data needs to be logged,
> and checked pre-flight to
> insure safety. An airplane that is out of weight
> and balance limits is not
> safe to fly. In my mind this is one of the most
> basic things a pilot can do
> to ensure a safe flight, along with the rest of the
> pre-fight checklist.
>
>
> Mike
>
> mclayton@rochester.rr.com
> Mobile: 585-737-5506
> 8 Adams Trail
> Spencerport, NY 14559
> N16AF (KF II Rebuild in Progress)
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: EGT mal function |
Mine did the same thing . Changed the thermocouples and fixed the problem . It
does not matter if the two wires are run touching together back to the instrument
just make shure you have a good gromett through the firewall to keep them
from rubbing and shorting out . Do you have the old style clamp-on, or the new
thread in thermocouples?
Good luck hope you get it fixed soon
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John Perry
Kitfox 2 N718PD
582 cbox 2:62-1 IVO IFA
WHEELS NorthAire Floats
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| Subject: | EGT mal function |
The thermocouples probably connect to an "extention cord" to reach the
instrument. Eight connections there all togeather, any one or more of
witch could be somewhat corroded. Also you might try to switch the
thermocouples around to determine if one half of the gauge is shot. Jim
Chuk, Avid MK IV, Chisholm MN
>From: michel dierick <michel.dierick@yahoo.com.au>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: EGT mal function
>Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:08:28 +1000 (EST)
>
>Hi everybody,
>
> I'm new to this list and I already have a question for my Kitfox Classic
>III.
>
> I just bought my Kitfox but have a problem with the EGT gauge. I - well
>- my kitfox has the Rotax 582 engine. The EGT indicates the temperature of
>1 cylinder, not the second. In flight, the reading of the first cylinder
>also stops, having no egt readings at all.
>
> As I looked in the engine compartment, I see that the EGT probes are
>well connected to the cylinder but both lines that are made of metal touch
>each other while between de engine and the instrument.
>
>Do I have to put some tape around them to avoid contact ?
>
> How did you guys solve this problem.
>
> Greetz,
>
> Mchel Dierick "TheDailyFly" from Belgium where the weather isn't very
>"summer" today.
>
>
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