Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Sun 07/08/07


Total Messages Posted: 26



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     1. 03:55 AM - Re: Model 4 door gas strut parts (Dave G.)
     2. 06:24 AM - Butt ribs issue (kentk)
     3. 07:43 AM - Re: Model 4 door gas strut parts (mic thiessen)
     4. 07:47 AM - Re: Butt ribs issue (Tom Jones)
     5. 07:55 AM - Re: Butt ribs issue (kentk)
     6. 08:39 AM - Anybody selling a kitfox IV-1200? (lpfrank18)
     7. 09:38 AM - Re: Model 4 door gas strut parts (Marwynne Kuhn)
     8. 09:47 AM - Re: Butt ribs issue (Tom Jones)
     9. 11:16 AM - Arlington 2007 (jdmcbean)
    10. 02:30 PM - Re: windshield/Enougth already (Clint Bazzill)
    11. 02:57 PM - Re: Kitfox Continental O-200 powered (kurt schrader)
    12. 04:50 PM - Re: Model 4 door gas strut parts (akflyer)
    13. 06:06 PM - Re: Arlington 2007 (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
    14. 06:29 PM - Trim failure (Joel)
    15. 07:09 PM - Re: Trim failure (Rick)
    16. 07:33 PM - Trim failure (Rexster)
    17. 07:43 PM - Kitfox list: Series 6 line drawings (Kevin Cozik)
    18. 07:46 PM - Re: Trim failure (Fred Shiple)
    19. 07:56 PM - Kitfox list: series 6 line drawings (Kevin Cozik)
    20. 08:05 PM - Re: Trim failure (Dan Billingsley)
    21. 08:18 PM - Continental O-200 carb heat box for Kitfox V  (Francisco dcubj3 Terra)
    22. 08:19 PM - Re: Kitfox list: series 6 line drawings (Fred Shiple)
    23. 08:26 PM - Re: Trim failure (SOURDOSTAN@aol.com)
    24. 08:37 PM - Static port trouble (Giovanni Day)
    25. 08:47 PM - nav lights and strobes (Giovanni Day)
    26. 10:01 PM - Re: Static port trouble (Lowell Fitt)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:55:36 AM PST US
    From: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Re: Model 4 door gas strut parts
    I've never had a situation yet where a call or email to Kitfox has not resulted in the parts being available. Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giovanni Day" <thedays@mchsi.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 11:21 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Model 4 door gas strut parts > > I need the door bracket and balls for the passenger side door. Any one > know where I could get them? > > -------- > _______________________________________ > Giovanni Day > Model 4 speedster 912 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=122693#122693 > > >


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    Time: 06:24:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Butt ribs issue
    From: "kentk" <kentk25@yahoo.com>
    Folks, I am installing the butt ribs on a Model 4-1200. I noticed that the butt ribs cover (slightly) the bolt and clevis holes for wing attachment. Has anyone else experienced this, and did you modify the butt ribs (cut them back) so that they no longer interfere with the bolt and clevis? -------- Kent Knudsen College Station, TX K-IV 1200 / no engine / 25% done Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=122719#122719


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    Time: 07:43:04 AM PST US
    From: "mic thiessen" <wannaflyfox4@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Model 4 door gas strut parts
    check out your nearest camper supply store they are the same as on the back door of most toppers that you put on your truck. you can get all the needed stuff there. mic do not archive >From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Model 4 door gas strut parts >Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 22:08:28 -0700 > > >At 07:21 PM 7/7/2007, you wrote: >>I need the door bracket and balls for the passenger side door. Any one >>know where I could get them? > >If nobody has the stock items, I fabricated some out of Guden parts and >4130 tubing. Let me know and I'll send drawings. > > >Guy Buchanan >San Diego, CA >K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. > >Do not archive > > _________________________________________________________________ Tell us your tech love story in the Summer Lovin Competition for your chance to win laptop loaded with Windows Vista, Office 2007 and Windows Live OneCare. http://www.microsoft.com/canada/home/contests/summerlovin/default.aspx


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    Time: 07:47:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Butt ribs issue
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    Kent, On my Classic 4 I had to trim a slight amount off the front of the Butt Rib cap strip to have clearance for the clevis pin. The rear I can't remember and there is no mention in my builders log of trimming. The top cap strip of the butt rib must match up with the number one rib. If there is a little interference with the front wing pin and rear attach bolt I would say butt ribb needs to be trimed to clear them. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV, Phase one 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=122724#122724


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    Time: 07:55:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Butt ribs issue
    From: "kentk" <kentk25@yahoo.com>
    Thanks, Tom! In looking at the manual (more closely), it looks like they trimmed the capstrips as well. One more question... why does the manual show 4 brackets in the photos on page WB-12, but then describes using only 3 on page WB-13???? I have 8 brackets and plan on using all of them. -------- Kent Knudsen College Station, TX K-IV 1200 / no engine / 25% done Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=122726#122726


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    Time: 08:39:09 AM PST US
    From: "lpfrank18" <lpfrank18@myacc.net>
    Subject: Anybody selling a kitfox IV-1200?
    Hi, Looking for one ..32 foot wing..rotax engine..etc Larry 954 673 1896 Thanks


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    Time: 09:38:30 AM PST US
    From: "Marwynne Kuhn" <marwynne@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Model 4 door gas strut parts
    I bought a set from AutoZone. I don't remember the number that I used. I measured it and found them at AutoZone. They worked fine no issues. Good Luck Marwynne ----- Original Message ----- From: "mic thiessen" <wannaflyfox4@hotmail.com> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Model 4 door gas strut parts > <wannaflyfox4@hotmail.com> > > check out your nearest camper supply store they are the same as on the > back door of most toppers that you put on your truck. you can get all the > needed stuff there. > > mic > do not archive > > >>From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> >>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Model 4 door gas strut parts >>Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 22:08:28 -0700 >> >> >>At 07:21 PM 7/7/2007, you wrote: >>>I need the door bracket and balls for the passenger side door. Any one >>>know where I could get them? >> >>If nobody has the stock items, I fabricated some out of Guden parts and >>4130 tubing. Let me know and I'll send drawings. >> >> >>Guy Buchanan >>San Diego, CA >>K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. >> >>Do not archive >> >> >> >> >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tell us your tech love story in the Summer Lovin Competition for your > chance to win laptop loaded with Windows Vista, Office 2007 and Windows > Live OneCare. > http://www.microsoft.com/canada/home/contests/summerlovin/default.aspx > > >


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    Time: 09:47:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Butt ribs issue
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    > why does the manual show 4 brackets in the photos on page WB-12, but then describes using only 3 on page WB-13???? I have 8 brackets and plan on using all of them. Kent, my manual is the same as yours and my kit included 8 brackets. I used them all. I guess the manual didn't get updated as fast as the airplane evolved. There are a few other puzzeling instructions you will run into...if you haven't already...that will keep you wondering. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV, Phase one 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=122735#122735


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    Time: 11:16:57 AM PST US
    From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
    Subject: Arlington 2007
    Hey Guys... Just to let everyone know that Arlington is supposed to have KITFOX Parking next to the vendor booths in the grassy area... We are in booth 36 and parking should be in the first couple of rows to the Southwest. Hope to see you there !! Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!" 8:00 PM


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    Time: 02:30:02 PM PST US
    From: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
    Subject: windshield/Enougth already
    I have been around dozens of Kitfox'es with lexan windshields and they are fine. You would think that these are terrible. I have my second one in my Model IV. Only because I had the origional one 2.5 MM, or 3/32. Replaced it with 3 MM by accident, annealed it with heat gun just below melting point. It is great, you can see the stress lines in it if you use polaroid glasses, but you can see them in preformed ones also. Do not get scared of the single sheet ones. Clint From: "floran higgins" <cliffh@outdrs.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: windshield When I ordered the preformed windshield from Kitfox I was told that It would take two weeks to get delivery. Rather than being AOG I decided to repair the crack as per AC 43.13-1B. As I was finishing lacing the crack I heard a loud pop and discovered the other side of the windshield had cracked exactly as the first side, so I wound up lacing the other side as well. Apparently when you make these windshields out of flat sheet it causes a lot of stress at the compound curve at the wing root. This is the second windshield that I have had to replace due to this problem. This second one is only about three years old and had almost no crazing prior to cracking. I hope this new preformed one doesn't have the same stresses. Floran Higgins Helena, Mt. Speedster 912ULS _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com


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    Time: 02:57:54 PM PST US
    From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox Continental O-200 powered
    --- Francisco dcubj3 Terra <dcubj3@terra.com.br> wrote: > Hi from Brazil, SA. I have a O-200 engine "0 SMOH" > ready to use, and Im looking for a good project for > this. Im thinking to find a Kitfox V because is a > classic-fashioned and a fast aircraft. > I would like to know what is your opinion about this > aircraft wit O-200 Continental engine. in this > aircraft. Performance, cruise airspeed, gas > consuption... Who has a O-200 Kitfox powered? Could > you send me some engine installed and cowling > photos? Thanks a lot. > > Francisco Drovetta > So Paulo, Brazil ----------------------------------------------------- Hi Francisco, I looked at the O-200 when making my engine decision for my V, but went with a Soob instead because I wanted a turbo for mountain flying. I think the O-200 is a very good match for the KitFox V and should perform similar to a Cessna 150. You will have shorter takeoffs, landings, and faster climbs, but maybe a little less cruise. It depends upon how much drag reduction you use and what prop. It will also carry more weight than a C-150. Fuel flow should be the same, 4.0 to 4.5 gph. If you have been using a J-3, as in your e-mail name, the KitFox should be a better performer all around. It also handles much better in the air, in my opinion. KitFox's have a faster and smoother roll and pitch control and are just plane more fun to fly. If you build 2 clear doors and a clear overhead window, you make it easy to see all the country side. I like the side-by-side seating better too. The KitFox smooth cowl will fit the O-200. In fact, the old SkyStar factory provided firewall forward kits for that engine. You can check with John and his wife at: http://www.sportplanellc.com/ to see if they still have the firewall fwd package for you at the new factory. The KitFox pilots guide lists the following for the V with O-200 at sealevel with 2-170 lb pilots: Average weight: 850 lbs Max Gross: 1550 lbs Average load 700 lbs Stall speed 43 mph Cruise speed 110-120 mph Average climb rate 1200 feet/min Takeoff roll 300 feet landing roll 300 feet I will be flying to GRU early in August for my girfriends birthday in Campinas. What side of So Paulo do you live on? Kurt Schrader S-5/NSI turbo Florida and panama Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/


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    Time: 04:50:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Model 4 door gas strut parts
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    occom wrote: > I've never had a situation yet where a call or email to Kitfox has not > resulted in the parts being available. > > Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582 > do not archive > > --- I called John to see about getting a set for my Avid...he is less than enthusiastic about making anything for anything earlier than a mod. IV...I was ready to pay for them, but no joy.. I was told that the drawings for them were somewhere but he was not sure where and not sure if he could find them blah blah blah.. -------- Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=122772#122772


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    Time: 06:06:27 PM PST US
    From: Malcolmbru@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Arlington 2007
    I have a friend going to Arlington, you cant miss him his name is Lavern and he has long red hair and the biggest handlebar mustache you have ever seen.; his girlfriend is a beautiful blond they drove there from Florida. when you see him please tell him Malcolm will see him at Oshkosh mal michigan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 06:29:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Trim failure
    From: "Joel" <foxfloatflyer@hotmail.com>
    Yesterday I flew my model 5 to 14,000 feet and was still climbing at better than 200 FPM. My altitude was verified by ATC at 13k on the way up. After a stop at Port Townsend International I returned to my home field to find the nose up trim was not working. Back on the ground I verified that the trim motor would run in the nose down direction to the limit but would not run at all in the nose up direction. Searchng through the archives I find two likely suspects; the trim switch or the actuator motor armature. I have 50 hours total on the plane. My question is which is more likely to be the culprit? Thanks, -------- Joel Mapes Kitfox 5 912 ULS Aerocomp amphibs Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=122781#122781


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    Time: 07:09:56 PM PST US
    From: "Rick" <wingsdown@verizon.net>
    Subject: Trim failure
    My belief it is the trim switch. Could be the wiring. I may have a used trim switch somewhere. I would just reverse the wiring and see if she runs the other direction. There is only one DC motor so if she runs one direction it should run the other direction. You can apply 12 volts at the trim motor , just switch polarity and see how she runs. It is a jack screw driven by a DC motor. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joel Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 6:29 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Trim failure Yesterday I flew my model 5 to 14,000 feet and was still climbing at better than 200 FPM. My altitude was verified by ATC at 13k on the way up. After a stop at Port Townsend International I returned to my home field to find the nose up trim was not working. Back on the ground I verified that the trim motor would run in the nose down direction to the limit but would not run at all in the nose up direction. Searchng through the archives I find two likely suspects; the trim switch or the actuator motor armature. I have 50 hours total on the plane. My question is which is more likely to be the culprit? Thanks, -------- Joel Mapes Kitfox 5 912 ULS Aerocomp amphibs Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=122781#122781 3:26 PM 3:26 PM


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    Time: 07:33:52 PM PST US
    From: "Rexster" <runwayrex@juno.com>
    Subject: Trim failure
    My guess is that Rick is right...................unless the motor malfun ctioned due to lack of oxygen at 14,000 feet! :-) Of course, you had your supply, right? Rex in Michigan 912 UL / Warp / Model 3 Do not archive -- "Rick" <wingsdown@verizon.net> wrote: My belief it is the trim switch. Could be the wiring. I may have a used trim switch somewhere. I would just reverse the wiring and see if she runs the other direction. There is only one DC motor so if she runs one direction it should run the other direction. You can apply 12 volts at the trim motor , just switch polarity and see how she runs. It is a jack screw driven by a DC motor. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joel Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 6:29 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Trim failure Yesterday I flew my model 5 to 14,000 feet and was still climbing at better than 200 FPM. My altitude was verified by ATC at 13k on the way up. After a stop at Port Townsend International I returned to my home field to find the nose up trim was not working. Back on the ground I verified that the trim motor would run in the nose down direction to the limit but would not run at all in the nose up direction. Searchng through the archives I find two likely suspects; the trim switch or the actuator motor armature. I have 50 hours total on the plane. My question is which is more likely to be the culprit? Thanks, -------- Joel Mapes Kitfox 5 912 ULS Aerocomp amphibs Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=122781#122781 3:26 PM 3:26 PM ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== <html><P>My guess is that Rick is right...................unless the mot or malfunctioned due to lack of oxygen at 14,000 feet!&nbsp; &nbsp;:-)&n bsp; <BR>Of course, you had your supply, right?</P> <P>Rex in Michigan<BR>912 UL / Warp / Model 3</P> <P>Do not archive<BR><BR>--&nbsp;"Rick"&nbsp;&lt;wingsdown@verizon.net&g t;&nbsp;wrote:<BR>--&gt;&nbsp;Kitfox-List&nbsp;message&nbsp;posted&nbsp; by:&nbsp;"Rick"&nbsp;&lt;wingsdown@verizon.net&gt;<BR><BR>My&nbsp;belief &nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;trim&nbsp;switch.&nbsp;Could&nbsp;be&nbsp ;the&nbsp;wiring.&nbsp;I&nbsp;may&nbsp;have&nbsp;a&nbsp;used<BR>trim&nbs p;switch&nbsp;somewhere.&nbsp;I&nbsp;would&nbsp;just&nbsp;reverse&nbsp;t he&nbsp;wiring&nbsp;and&nbsp;see&nbsp;if&nbsp;she<BR>runs&nbsp;the&nbsp; other&nbsp;direction.&nbsp;There&nbsp;is&nbsp;only&nbsp;one&nbsp;DC&nbsp ;motor&nbsp;so&nbsp;if&nbsp;she&nbsp;runs&nbsp;one<BR>direction&nbsp;it& nbsp;should&nbsp;run&nbsp;the&nbsp;other&nbsp;direction.&nbsp;You&nbsp;c an&nbsp;apply&nbsp;12&nbsp;volts&nbsp;at<BR>the&nbsp;trim&nbsp;motor&nbs p;,&nbsp;just&nbsp;switch&nbsp;polarity&nbsp;and&nbsp;see&nbsp;how&nbsp; she&nbsp;runs.&nbsp;It&nbsp;is&nbsp;a&nbsp;jack<BR>screw&nbsp;driven&nbs p;by&nbsp;a&nbsp;DC&nbsp;motor.&nbsp;<BR><BR>Rick<BR><BR>-----Original&n bsp;Message-----<BR>From:&nbsp;owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com<BR >[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]&nbsp;On&nbsp;Behalf&nbs p;Of&nbsp;Joel<BR>Sent:&nbsp;Sunday,&nbsp;July&nbsp;08,&nbsp;2007&nbsp;6 :29&nbsp;PM<BR>To:&nbsp;kitfox-list@matronics.com<BR>Subject:&nbsp;Kitfo x-List:&nbsp;Trim&nbsp;failure<BR><BR><BR>--&gt;&nbsp;Kitfox-List&nbsp;m essage&nbsp;posted&nbsp;by:&nbsp;"Joel"&nbsp;&lt;foxfloatflyer@hotmail.c om&gt;<BR><BR>Yesterday&nbsp;I&nbsp;flew&nbsp;my&nbsp;model&nbsp;5&nbsp; to&nbsp;14,000&nbsp;feet&nbsp;and&nbsp;was&nbsp;still&nbsp;climbing&nbsp ;at<BR>better&nbsp;than&nbsp;200&nbsp;FPM.&nbsp;My&nbsp;altitude&nbsp;wa s&nbsp;verified&nbsp;by&nbsp;ATC&nbsp;at&nbsp;13k&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp; way<BR>up.&nbsp;After&nbsp;a&nbsp;stop&nbsp;at&nbsp;Port&nbsp;Townsend&n bsp;International&nbsp;I&nbsp;returned&nbsp;to&nbsp;my&nbsp;home<BR>fiel d&nbsp;to&nbsp;find&nbsp;the&nbsp;nose&nbsp;up&nbsp;trim&nbsp;was&nbsp;n ot&nbsp;working.&nbsp;Back&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;ground&nbsp;I<BR>verifi ed&nbsp;that&nbsp;the&nbsp;trim&nbsp;motor&nbsp;would&nbsp;run&nbsp;in&n bsp;the&nbsp;nose&nbsp;down&nbsp;direction&nbsp;to&nbsp;the<BR>limit&nbs p;but&nbsp;would&nbsp;not&nbsp;run&nbsp;at&nbsp;all&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbs p;nose&nbsp;up&nbsp;direction.&nbsp;&nbsp;Searchng<BR>through&nbsp;the&n bsp;archives&nbsp;I&nbsp;find&nbsp;two&nbsp;likely&nbsp;suspects;&nbsp;t he&nbsp;trim&nbsp;switch&nbsp;or&nbsp;the<BR>actuator&nbsp;motor&nbsp;ar mature.&nbsp;I&nbsp;have&nbsp;50&nbsp;hours&nbsp;total&nbsp;on&nbsp;the& nbsp;plane.&nbsp;My&nbsp;question<BR>is&nbsp;which&nbsp;is&nbsp;more&nbs p;likely&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;the&nbsp;culprit?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>-- ------<BR>Joel&nbsp;Mapes&nbsp;Kitfox&nbsp;5&nbsp;912&nbsp;ULS&nbsp;Aero comp&nbsp;amphibs<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Read&nbsp;this&nbsp;topic&nbsp;onli ne&nbsp;here:<BR><BR>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=12278 1#122781<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>3:26&nbsp;PM<BR>&nbs ======================== ======================== nbsp;Use&nbsp;the&nbsp;Matronics&nbsp;List&nbsp;Features&nbsp;Navigator& Archive&nbsp;Search&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;Download,&nbsp;7-Day&nbsp;Browse,&nb ======================== =&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-&nbsp;NEW&nbsp;MATRONICS&nbsp;WEB&nbsp;FORUMS&nbsp;-<BR> ======================== ======================== =<BR></P> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 07:43:15 PM PST US
    From: "Kevin Cozik" <Kcozik@cablespeed.com>
    Subject: Kitfox list: Series 6 line drawings
    Hi all, My airplane is scheduled for inspection on July 20th after almost 4 years of part time building. After sending the program letter, paperwork and photos to the inspector, he has asked me to forward a 3 view line drawing as well. Anyone have one they can email to me? I would think a model 5 would work as well. Thanks for all the help. Kevin Cozik Series 6 Rotax 914 turbo Czech amphibs. Laingsburg Michigan


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    Time: 07:46:32 PM PST US
    From: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Trim failure
    Rick's pointing you in the right direction with regards to your probable switch failure, but replace it with a high quality switch as that switch sees a lot of use cycles. When mine went I used ACS's momentary double-pole double-throw switch after quizzing Skystar. It's a bit pricey but it's now lasted 3 years (only got 6 months with the first one). Fred


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    Time: 07:56:26 PM PST US
    From: "Kevin Cozik" <Kcozik@cablespeed.com>
    Subject: Kitfox list: series 6 line drawings
    Hi all, My airplane is scheduled for inspection on July 20th after almost 4 years of part time building. After sending the program letter, paperwork and photos to the inspector, he has asked me to forward a 3 view line drawing as well. Anyone have one they can email to me? I would think a model 5 would work as well. Thanks for all the help. Kevin Cozik Series 6 Rotax 914 turbo Czech amphibs. Laingsburg Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: Rexster To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Trim failure My guess is that Rick is right...................unless the motor malfunctioned due to lack of oxygen at 14,000 feet! :-) Of course, you had your supply, right? Rex in Michigan 912 UL / Warp / Model 3 Do not archive -- "Rick" <wingsdown@verizon.net> wrote: My belief it is the trim switch. Could be the wiring. I may have a used trim switch somewhere. I would just reverse the wiring and see if she runs the other direction. There is only one DC motor so if she runs one direction it should run the other direction. You can apply 12 volts at the trim motor , just switch polarity and see how she runs. It is a jack screw driven by a DC motor. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joel Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 6:29 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Trim failure Yesterday I flew my model 5 to 14,000 feet and was still climbing at better than 200 FPM. My altitude was verified by ATC at 13k on the way up. After a stop at Port Townsend International I returned to my home field to find the nose up trim was not working. Back on the ground I verified that the trim motor would run in the nose down direction to the limit but would not run at all in the nose up direction. Searchng through the archives I find two likely suspects; the trim switch or the actuator motor armature. I have 50 hours total on the plane. My question is which is more likely to be the culprit? Thanks, -------- Joel Mapes Kitfox 5 912 ULS Aerocomp amphibs Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=122781#122781 3:26 PM &nbs======================= nbsp;Use the Matronics List Features Navigator&Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse,&nb===================== ==== - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - =======================


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    Time: 08:05:34 PM PST US
    From: Dan Billingsley <dan@azshowersolutions.com>
    Subject: Trim failure
    This thread has generated a question for anyone that has their trim switch in a Ray Allen (MAK) stick grip. I am still building and this is where I am planning to stick mine. Has anyone put the Ray Allen trim switch (on the stick grip) through a time tested ringer? Dan B Mesa, AZ KF IV, 912s Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Rick's pointing you in the right direction with regards to your probable switch failure, but replace it with a high quality switch as that switch sees a lot of use cycles. When mine went I used ACS's momentary double-pole double-throw switch after quizzing Skystar. It's a bit pricey but it's now lasted 3 years (only got 6 months with the first one). Fred


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    Time: 08:18:51 PM PST US
    From: "Francisco dcubj3 Terra" <dcubj3@terra.com.br>
    Subject: Continental O-200 carb heat box for Kitfox V
    Hi! Which is the difference between O-200 Original carburator heat box (C-150) and Skystar=B4s custom O-200 carb heat box? If somebody has photos, please I=B4d like to receive them. Thanks a lot Francisco Drovetta S=E3o Paulo, Brazil, SA Future Kitfox V O-200 owner


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    Time: 08:19:56 PM PST US
    From: Fred Shiple <fredshiple@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Kitfox list: series 6 line drawings


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    Time: 08:26:16 PM PST US
    From: SOURDOSTAN@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Trim failure
    I have a MAC trim switch on my stick--has been faithful for 1180 hours. I wouldn't have my trim switch anywhere else--great on final! Stan Specht Kitfox Model IV Speedster "Columbine" Denver, Colorado ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 08:37:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Static port trouble
    From: "Giovanni Day" <thedays@mchsi.com>
    I put my static port in the back just in front of the tail on the pilot side. My vertical speed reads that I am descending all the time and the airspeed reads low. I remove the static and they get better but the vertical speed is dampened for some reason. The air speed is not far off with the cockpit pressure. What where are most of you getting your static air? -------- _______________________________________ Giovanni Day Model 4 speedster 912 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=122801#122801


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    Time: 08:47:19 PM PST US
    Subject: nav lights and strobes
    From: "Giovanni Day" <thedays@mchsi.com>
    What are most people using for nav/strobe lights? Any one used the AEROFLASH brand? -------- _______________________________________ Giovanni Day Model 4 speedster 912 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=122803#122803


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    Time: 10:01:39 PM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Static port trouble
    Giovani, My static port is essentially where yours is - per the Skystar bulletin at the time. My airspeed is pretty accurate, but runs lower than friends I fly with. I don't find it a problem as all the speeds I use - approach, stall, etc are relative to what the ASI reads error and all. There is a small screw on the face of the VSI that I can set to zero when straight and level. I adjusted it a time or two by necessity. Lowell Fitt Cameron Park, CA Model IV-1200 R-912 UL Warp 1998 870 hrs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giovanni Day" <thedays@mchsi.com> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:37 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Static port trouble > > I put my static port in the back just in front of the tail on the pilot > side. My vertical speed reads that I am descending all the time and the > airspeed reads low. I remove the static and they get better but the > vertical speed is dampened for some reason. The air speed is not far off > with the cockpit pressure. What where are most of you getting your static > air? > > -------- > _______________________________________ > Giovanni Day > Model 4 speedster 912 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=122801#122801 > > >




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