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1. 04:57 AM - Re: oshkosh (pilotpat)
2. 05:24 AM - Re: Re: Master Relay (Harold Flynn)
3. 05:52 AM - Re: Re: Master Relay (Rick)
4. 07:03 AM - Re: instrument panel color (Jose M. Toro)
5. 07:26 AM - Re: instrument panel color (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
6. 08:52 AM - Re: oshkosh (Lynn Matteson)
7. 09:29 AM - Re: oshkosh (kitfoxmike)
8. 11:32 AM - Subaru EA-81 reducing unit breather/vent and engine oil cooler installation (GENTRYLL@aol.com)
9. 12:54 PM - Re: Mystery Rivets (flier)
10. 01:21 PM - Re: Re: Mystery Rivets (kirk hull)
11. 01:41 PM - Re: Re: Mystery Rivets (kurt schrader)
12. 02:26 PM - Wanted: Kitfox IV-1200 (Larry)
13. 03:06 PM - Re: Wanted: Kitfox IV-1200 (Larry)
14. 06:22 PM - Oshkosh (Kevin Ridsdale)
15. 06:45 PM - Speedster on floats (Larry)
16. 07:25 PM - Question for PocketFMS Users: No longer free? (wingnut)
17. 07:51 PM - gearbox ratio ident? (Don G)
18. 08:28 PM - Re: gearbox ratio ident? (john oakley)
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would like to attend , will be there all week. there will be 4 of us, will stop
by the booth.
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Pilotpat
Kitfox Classic IV
Jabiru 2200
Williamsport , PA
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| Subject: | Re: Master Relay |
Aircraft Spruce sells both types. It's a good company to get your parts from. When
you buy from them you know what your getting.
A good source for master relays is from the RV dealers. Similar relays are
used to connect auxiliary batteries.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Giovanni Day
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:08 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Master Relay
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> What ever relay you use you need to make sure it is intended
> for continual use. Most automotive starter relays are not
> intended for more than a few minutes use at a time.
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> Model 4 speedster 912
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| Subject: | Re: Master Relay |
I have two, one new one almost new. Still plenty of things left over
from the Fox. Just let me know. These are master relay type, constant
duty with arc protection.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Harold
Flynn
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:24 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Master Relay
Aircraft Spruce sells both types. It's a good company to get your parts
from. When you buy from them you know what your getting.
Noel Loveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca> wrote:
A good source for master relays is from the RV dealers. Similar relays
are
used to connect auxiliary batteries.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Giovanni Day
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:08 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Master Relay
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> What ever relay you use you need to make sure
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| Subject: | Re: instrument panel color |
I'm still constructing, but my panel will be yellow. Instead of a gloss finish,
I intend to have a satin finish. To attain that, I will be using a base coat
with hardener using a 6 to 1 ratio.
Jose
----- Original Message ----
From: jerry evans <kitfox555@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:55:21 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: instrument panel color
On mine I used a counter top laminate ,thin not to heavy also put it on floor to
match all in flat wood grain finish got it from Home Depot $12.00
kirk hull <kirkhull@kc.rr.com> wrote:
Flat black would be the best. Really any color that is not shiny ( no
gloss) will do fine. My fox is red and I have a flat black panel. Attached
is a photo.
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brent E Bidus
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 7:24 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: instrument panel color
Anyone have any thoughts on best colors or colors to avoid when painting
the instrument panel? My airplane is red and yellow but don't want
problems with glare. Thanks,
Brent Bidus
Classic 4/912
Colorado Springs CO
Jerry Evans
96% done 582
Magalia Calif.
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| Subject: | Re: instrument panel color |
would like the large version of the picture for my scrapbook. Thanks
John Kerr
Classic IV/912ul, 758.9 hours as of this morning. a lot of smoke in the western
skies.
-------------- Original message --------------
From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> My feeling when it comes to the instrument panel is
> that you want to see the instruments, not the panel.
> Pretty panels are ok for show, but harder to fly with.
>
> You might look at the stone simulated paints at the
> hardware store. Something with a lower glare and nice
> look that hides blemishes. Easy to spray on too.
> Just a thought. I used a medium gray and like how my
> panel came out. Attached is a small pic of it. Large
> pic available.
>
> Kurt Schrader
> S-5/NSI turbo
> Florida and Panama
> ==================================================
> --- Brent E Bidus wrote:
>
> > Anyone have any thoughts on best colors or colors to
> > avoid when painting
> > the instrument panel? My airplane is red and yellow
> > but don't want problems with glare. Thanks,
> >
> > Brent Bidus
> > Classic 4/912
> > Colorado Springs CO
>
>
> Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and
> lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
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<DIV>would like the large version of the picture for my scrapbook. Thanks</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>John Kerr</DIV>
<DIV>Classic IV/912ul, 758.9 hours as of this morning. a lot of smoke in
the western skies.</DIV>
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solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com> <BR><BR>> My feeling when it comes to
the instrument panel is <BR>> that you want to see the instruments, not the
panel. <BR>> Pretty panels are ok for show, but harder to fly with. <BR>>
<BR>> You might look at the stone simulated paints at the <BR>> hardware
store. Something with a lower glare and nice <BR>> look that hides blemishes.
Easy to spray on too. <BR>> Just a thought. I used a medium gray and
like how my <BR>> panel came out. Attached is a small pic of it. Large <BR>>
pic available. <BR>> <BR>> Kurt Schrader <BR>> S-5/NSI turbo <BR>>
Florida and Panama <BR>> ==================================================
<BR>> --- Brent E Bidus <BRENTBIDUS@JUNO.COM>wrote: <BR>> <BR>>
> Anyone have any thoughts on best colors or c
olors
to <BR>> > avoid when painting <BR>> > the instrument panel? My airplane is red and yellow <BR>> > but don't want problems with glare. Thanks, <BR>> > <BR>> > Brent Bidus <BR>> > Classic 4/912 <BR>> > Colorado Springs CO <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and <BR>> lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>
From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: instrument panel color
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Sure would be nice to have that dinner before Friday....I'm going up
on Sunday, and I'm gonna run out of underwear before
Friday....besides, my attention span isn't long enough to allow me to
stay any place for a week : )
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/369+ hrs
do not archive
On Jul 18, 2007, at 8:57 PM, jdmcbean wrote:
> <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
>
> Shouldn't be a problem...
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> 208.337.5111
> www.kitfoxaircraft.com
> "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kirk hull
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 6:23 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: oshkosh
>
>
> I am not sure that I will be there all week but if I am I will be
> at the
> dinner. If some one was to set up something earlier could they use
> your
> booth as a place to leave that INFO
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:59 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: oshkosh
>
> <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
>
> Kitfox dinner is planned for Friday, July 27th .. Come see us at
> the booth
> for the details.. We are in the North Aircraft display
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> 208.337.5111
> www.kitfoxaircraft.com
> "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
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I guess you are going to be in pretty bad shape come saturday.
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
enough"
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Subaru EA-81 reducing unit breather/vent and engine oil cooler |
installation
In the past I saw a picture of a breather/vent for a NSI EA-81 reducing unit
on this list. Could the owner that listed that please give us the picture
and explanation again.
Also if you have some pictures of an oil cooler installation for the engine,
please list it also.
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| Subject: | Re: Mystery Rivets |
I hear what you're saying Kurt but I'd challenge you to shear off a butt rib from
the brackets when secured with regular mandrel standard rivets. You couldn't
do it.
I'd more think it possible to peel the lexan up off the butt ribs than to shear
the butt ribs off as the rivets holding the plastic down are in tension.
The beauty of homebuilts is that we all have the right to use our own intelligence
to the extent we feel comfortable...
Regards,
Ted
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| Subject: | Re: Mystery Rivets |
I would agree that on this installation you would be ok. The problem arises
when the left over rivets get mixed in with other aircraft parts and end up
getting used somewhere where they could cause a problem.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flier
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:54 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Mystery Rivets
I hear what you're saying Kurt but I'd challenge you to shear off a butt rib
from the brackets when secured with regular mandrel standard rivets. You
couldn't do it.
I'd more think it possible to peel the lexan up off the butt ribs than to
shear the butt ribs off as the rivets holding the plastic down are in
tension.
The beauty of homebuilts is that we all have the right to use our own
intelligence to the extent we feel comfortable...
Regards,
Ted
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| Subject: | Re: Mystery Rivets |
No problem at all Ted,
I wasn't trying make it an argument, but to keep us
thinking safety first. One of our school trained
safety folks here....
We already know of flapperon brackets pulling the
rivets thru the ribs too. And it isn't the rivets
failing in the canopys either. It is the cap strips
pulling free. Make it stronger, not weaker in my
opinion.
I am just a suspenders and belt guy.... Not inclined
to make substitutes in areas because I don't see how
they can fail. But I do if I clearly see that I've
got plenety of strength and no easy failure mode. Thus
light weight wins where strength is plenty. On the
other hand, I've added strength in some areas too.
Kurt Schrader
Do not archive
--- flier <flier@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I hear what you're saying Kurt but I'd challenge you
> to shear off a butt rib from the brackets when
> secured with regular mandrel standard rivets. You
> couldn't do it.
>
> I'd more think it possible to peel the lexan up off
> the butt ribs than to shear the butt ribs off as the
> rivets holding the plastic down are in tension.
>
> The beauty of homebuilts is that we all have the
> right to use our own intelligence to the extent we
> feel comfortable...
>
> Regards,
>
> Ted
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| Subject: | Wanted: Kitfox IV-1200 |
I know I recently posted this....but here it is again....
Looking for a "classic" style....the longer wing--- 32 foot
Rotax only.....navcom....a transponder and intercom would be nice....
Don't care about the color....
Putting it on floats....which I have already....1200's
I'm on vacation next week....and it would be easy to pick it up then....
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Wanted: Kitfox IV-1200 |
oops...had to close out, boss came by...and forgot to list my cell
954 673 1896 Larry
do no archive
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NOTICE to KIT FOX FLIERS
MiPPi Ultralights is taking orders for King Fox Tires
to be delivered on Friday PM and Saturday July 28 for
7:00AM. This is the last of our stock 50 sets.
Reserve today. We are only making the trip if we have
enough orders in advance.
Cost is $36.00/pr.
Hope to see you there.
Kevin
MiPPi Ultralights
734-377-2670
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| Subject: | Speedster on floats |
Anybody flying one of these on floats with an 80 hp rotax? How's it near gross
or hot days? That is with the 29 ft wing as opposed to the 32 ft wing...?
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| Subject: | Question for PocketFMS Users: No longer free? |
Finally getting around to reworking the installation of my pda in my airplane (mostly
rerouting wires). I went to download the latest PocketFMS and discovered
that it's no longer free. Not only is it not free, you can't buy it. It's only
available by subscription at 150 euros/year. The current exchange rate makes
it better than $200/year. I balked at $500 for mountainscope ages ago though
I've always envied the look of their program. I'd rather pay $500 once than $200/year
for a subscription though. The other option is Anywhere map. The demo
screens always looked a bit ugly to me but at $95, it's tough to beat.
Anyone else out there looking to replace PocketFMS now that it's not free?
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Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)
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| Subject: | gearbox ratio ident? |
gents,
Can an ybody tell me how to identify the GB ratio on a 80 hp 912?
is it supposed to me marked?
Surely I wont have to pull a rocker cover and turn the prop, counting turns and
trying to figger it out that way.......will I?
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Don G.
Central Illinois
Kitfox IV Speedster
Luscombe 8A
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | gearbox ratio ident? |
Don,
The 912ul had only one ratio that I know of that is 2.27-1.
John Oakley
Speedster 4
912ul
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don G
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:51 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: gearbox ratio ident?
gents,
Can an ybody tell me how to identify the GB ratio on a 80 hp 912?
is it supposed to me marked?
Surely I wont have to pull a rocker cover and turn the prop, counting turns
and trying to figger it out that way.......will I?
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Don G.
Central Illinois
Kitfox IV Speedster
Luscombe 8A
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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