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1. 06:16 AM - Re: Re: NSI transmission breather (Peter Graichen)
2. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: NSI transmission breather (GENTRYLL@aol.com)
3. 08:29 AM - Re: Re: NSI transmission breather (Rick)
4. 08:33 AM - Re: Re: NSI transmission breather (Rick)
5. 12:06 PM - Re: Re: NSI transmission breather (Peter Graichen)
6. 03:27 PM - Re: Re: NSI transmission breather (GENTRYLL@aol.com)
7. 04:53 PM - Re: Re: Wanted: Kitfox IV-1200 (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
8. 06:46 PM - Re: Re: NSI transmission breather (Noel Loveys)
9. 07:44 PM - Re: Heater for KF 582 (Steve Shinabery)
10. 08:54 PM - Went Flying (Lowell Fitt)
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| Subject: | Re: NSI transmission breather |
Hi Kurt,
I hope these pixs help
Peter Graichen
http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt schrader
Sent: Saturday, 21 July, 2007 22:50
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: NSI transmission breather
--> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I forgot who asked, but I didn't see a reply to the question about the NSI
GB breather.
The person to talk to is Peter Graichen. He has a good number of mods for
his plane pictured on his web site and I think this breather is there too.
Peter, can you post your web site link again, or at least the breather pic?
Kurt Schrader
S-5/NSI turbo
Florida and Panama
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| Subject: | Re: NSI transmission breather |
Thanks Peter,
Looks like a simple setup. It looks like oil goes all the way to the
reservoir. Is that correct?
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| Subject: | Re: NSI transmission breather |
OK,
My bad. Should have looked and listened a bit closer. I didnt realize
it was a different redrive. I will go back to seep now.
Rick
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Graichen
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 6:18 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: NSI transmission breather
Hi Kurt,
I hope these pixs help
Peter Graichen
http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt
schrader
Sent: Saturday, 21 July, 2007 22:50
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: NSI transmission breather
--> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I forgot who asked, but I didn't see a reply to the question about the
NSI GB breather.
The person to talk to is Peter Graichen. He has a good number of mods
for his plane pictured on his web site and I think this breather is
there too.
Peter, can you post your web site link again, or at least the breather
pic?
Kurt Schrader
S-5/NSI turbo
Florida and Panama
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7/21/2007 3:52 PM
7/21/2007 3:52 PM
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| Subject: | Re: NSI transmission breather |
FWIW,
I was told by Lance some time ago that the breather is actually
detrimental. The mist created in the gear set is beneficial to
lubrication. The vent diminishes this from forming. If the seal are good
and the unit is not over filled there should be no need for one. I never
needed one in 600 hours of operation. Please I don't care to get
commentaries on Lance and get off topic. This is my general
understanding of the closed reduction system and how it worked for me.
Rick
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
GENTRYLL@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: NSI transmission breather
Thanks Peter,
Looks like a simple setup. It looks like oil goes all the way to the
reservoir. Is that correct?
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| Subject: | Re: NSI transmission breather |
Hi Rick:
As you can see from the pixs I posted, I made a connection from the gearbox
bottom drain to a plastic overflow bottle. The tube goes all the way to the
bottom of the overflow bottle. The overflow bottle is vented. As the gearbox
heats up during operation the internal pressure increases considerably
without this vent. This does lead very easily to oil leaks around the seals.
During operation the pressure buildup expells about 5 fluid ounces of oil
into the overflow bottle. As the gearbox cools after shut down, it sucks all
the oil back into the gearbox. It is basically the same setup as the coolant
overflow. As far as oil mist within the gearbox is concerned, I can not see
where my setup would make any difference.
Peter Graichen
http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
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GENTRYLL@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, 22 July, 2007 10:36
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: NSI transmission breather
Thanks Peter,
Looks like a simple setup. It looks like oil goes all the way to the
reservoir. Is that correct?
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| Subject: | Re: NSI transmission breather |
Peter,
Since some oil obviously drains out of the gear box and into the tube, do
you just try to add enough oil to start with to make the oil level in the gear
box and the tube about the same height as the top of the gear box, or do you
allow some space there also?
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| Subject: | Re: Wanted: Kitfox IV-1200 |
classic long wing with speedster mods:fairings, extra riblets etc.
80 miles north of salt lake
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From: "Larry" <lpfrank18@aol.com>
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| Subject: | Re: NSI transmission breather |
Why is your breather out of the bottom of your redrive instead of the top?
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Peter Graichen
> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:48 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com; Graichen, Peter & Jackie
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: NSI transmission breather
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> Hi Kurt,
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> I hope these pixs help
> Peter Graichen
> http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Heater for KF 582 |
does any one have a heater that would work for me??I have a Kitfox2,with
a 582..all so any body here in Ohio that has a kitfox close by
me??Thanks to every one here on the list..N554KF, Steve
Shinabery,St.Marys,Ohio
> top?
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> Noel
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> Peter Graichen
>> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:48 AM
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com; Graichen, Peter & Jackie
>> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: NSI transmission breather
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>> Hi Kurt,
>>
>> I hope these pixs help
>> Peter Graichen
>> http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
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I went to Idaho to see friends and visit the Kitfox factory this week. The
trip east over the Sierras was a bit bouncy - unusual for the early morning,
with some clouds covering the ridge immediately west of Lake Tahoe. I
diverted a bit south over US50 to stay in clear air then picked up the Derby
course on the GPS and headed northeast. The plan was to stay at about 7500
ft for the duration, but found that the bouncing continued at that altitude.
A glance at the GPS showed a ground speed of 114. I was pleased with that,
when it occurred to me that I had changed the units to knots vs the usual
mph, I was more familiar with. That was done during the flight to the $100
hamburger because at that time all the air to air talk was in knots. I felt
even better with that speed. Becoming tired of the hammering, I decided to
climb a bit to see what it felt like higher. That decision was a good one
as I found it smooth and significantly faster. Changing back to mph, I saw
140 a couple of times and 138 consistently, and made the usual five and a
half hour (with the group) trip, three and a half hours.
The interesting part of the flight was the segment home. I had hoped that
the winds would have moderated, but it was bumpy low and slow at higher
altitudes, so preferring the bumps, I dropped down to pick up some ground
speed and it helped, but I had the bumps and head winds with ground speeds
varying between 80 and about 95 mph max. Once again I decided to forego the
fuel stop in Winnemucca or Derby calculating that I had sufficient fuel for
the trip home and lots of alternatives if I calculated wrong. I monitored
fuel on a regular basis and everything always looked good. I was aware that
the last half hour would be from the high Sierra crossing altitude to the
pattern altitude and was also aware of the fuel feed issues with the aft
located pick-up on the early model wing tanks when in the long glide. I
calculated a 400 fpm descent to make pattern from my crossing altitude. I
always love that part of the trip as it amounts to dropping the nose,
reducing throttle for a comfortable airspeed and enjoying the ride. It was
a good experience as I was able to verify that the low fuel indicator works
as planned. I got a very brief indication at one point and was able to
confirm the fact that the fuel was not flowing through the glass fuel
filters. I leveled out to allow the fuel to flow a bit and it was back to
normal.
The point? I think the next time I will stop for fuel on the way home. I
was comfortable, but not real comforatable. The trip home took a couple of
minutes short of five hours, this at Rotax's 5500 recommended cruise rpm.
And this 5 hours is now my absolute maximum flight time at maximum cruise.
Based on what I see on the sight gauges, I figure I used about 22 gallons of
fuel in that time giving a fuel burn of 4.4 gph. I will fill incrementally
and determine the actual fuel burn. Also I like knowing that the low fuel
indicator works as expected. I am aware of one case where during an annual
inspection a friend found that his system had self distructed and he was
flying ignorant but happy.
Regarding Kitfox. John was at Airventure so I didn't get a chance to see
him or Deb. The factory was busy with lots going on. My impression is that
we are in a period of stability there.
Lowell Fitt
Cameron Park, CA
Model IV-1200 R-912 UL Warp
1998 887 hrs.
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