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1. 04:13 AM - Re: Off topic...Rhinebeck Aerodrome (RAY Gignac)
2. 06:35 AM - Re: Off topic...Rhinebeck Aerodrome (Marco Menezes)
3. 06:39 AM - Re: Re: instrument panel color (Barry West)
4. 06:40 AM - Re: Re: instrument panel color (Barry West)
5. 07:03 AM - Re: Off topic...Rhinebeck Aerodrome (Fred Shiple)
6. 08:35 AM - Re: Off topic...Rhinebeck Aerodrome (mscotter@comcast.net)
7. 12:55 PM - Jimmy Franklin Tape (Clint Bazzill)
8. 03:06 PM - Re: Jimmy Franklin Tape (dcsfoto)
9. 03:35 PM - Re: Jimmy Franklin Tape (57_kid)
10. 05:08 PM - Re: Re: Jimmy Franklin Tape (Clint Bazzill)
11. 07:02 PM - Re: Re: need engineer type to run a calculation (jdmcbean)
12. 07:08 PM - Re: need engineer type to run a calculation (akflyer)
13. 09:04 PM - Re: Re: need engineer type to run a calculation (Noel Loveys)
14. 09:41 PM - Re: need engineer type to run a calculation (akflyer)
15. 10:28 PM - Re: Jimmy Franklin Tape (ron schick)
16. 11:09 PM - test email (Mark Thompson)
17. 11:09 PM - test email (Mark Thompson)
18. 11:09 PM - test email (Mark Thompson)
19. 11:43 PM - Att'n Clem Wehner (jmcmanus)
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| Subject: | Off topic...Rhinebeck Aerodrome |
Hey Lynn,
I fly a Model IV 1200 with a 912uls! I am based out of W00/Freeway
airport inside the ADIZ around Washington DC. I am off work the next four
days, think you might come my way? if so lets do some Kitfox flying. Call me
at 301-520-3171, thats my cell.
Ray
>From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Off topic...Rhinebeck Aerodrome
>Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 21:51:19 -0400
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> Tomorrow morning a flight of four will take to the sky and head for the
>Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome in New York...my Kitfox, two Cessna 150's, and a
>twin-engine Apache(?). If anybody wants to join up with us there, I'd love
>to meet with you all. We'll be doing the areas of local interest on
>Friday, then the shows at the Aerodrome on Sat and Sun, coming home to
>Michigan on Monday. Hope to see some Kitfoxers there....I plan to fly into
>the place on either Thursday or Friday, after casing the place first.
>Flying in there is allowed, but only if you contact them first by phone,
>and only if you have a taildragger, and only before noon on show day,
>they told me.
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>Lynn Matteson
>Grass Lake, Michigan
>Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
>flying w/380+ hrs
>do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Off topic...Rhinebeck Aerodrome |
Off on another adventure eh Lynn? I know you'll have fun. Fly safe and send us
a report when you can.
Tomorrow morning a flight of four will take to the sky and head for
the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome in New York...my Kitfox, two Cessna
150's, and a twin-engine Apache(?). If anybody wants to join up with
us there, I'd love to meet with you all. We'll be doing the areas of
local interest on Friday, then the shows at the Aerodrome on Sat and
Sun, coming home to Michigan on Monday. Hope to see some Kitfoxers
there....I plan to fly into the place on either Thursday or Friday,
after casing the place first. Flying in there is allowed, but only if
you contact them first by phone, and only if you have a taildragger,
and only before noon on show day, they told me.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/380+ hrs
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: instrument panel color |
Good choice, maybe a little toward medium gray.
Barry West
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Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:13 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: instrument panel color
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| Subject: | Re: instrument panel color |
and use powder coating.
BW
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From: "Rhino" <bsimmons@rainbowdata.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:13 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: instrument panel color
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| Subject: | Re: Off topic...Rhinebeck Aerodrome |
Lynn, have a great flight. One of these days I'll get my projects done and free
up enough time to go with you. Have a safe trip!
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Off topic...Rhinebeck Aerodrome |
Wow, that is great that you guys got permission to land on the field. I went a
few years ago, but had to land at Kingston and get a cab over to Rhinebeck.
It's not far (<10 miles), but the shuttling back and forth added a lot of travel
time to the day.
Parts of the field at Rhinebeck are pretty hilly, so keep your eyes open. You
will love the show - lots of great old airplanes and they actually fly a lot of
them as long as the winds are low.
Mark Scott
Elkton, MD USA
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<DIV>Wow, that is great that you guys got permission to land on the field.
I went a few years ago, but had to land at Kingston and get a cab over to Rhinebeck.
It's not far (<10 miles), but the shuttling back and forth added a
lot of travel time to the day. </DIV>
<DIV>Parts of the field at Rhinebeck are pretty hilly, so keep your eyes open.
You will love the show - lots of great old airplanes and they actually
fly a lot of them as long as the winds are low.</DIV>
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<DIV>Mark Scott</DIV>
<DIV>Elkton, MD USA</DIV>
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| Subject: | Jimmy Franklin Tape |
I have an origional Jimmy Franklin tape flying is Oskosh. Am going to throw
it out or send it to someone for shipping only. Clint
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| Subject: | Re: Jimmy Franklin Tape |
love to have it. let me know how much to ship.
david@kelm.com
thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Jimmy Franklin Tape |
And if he doesnt want it i'll take it
Steve :D
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| Subject: | Re: Jimmy Franklin Tape |
Give me your address. Shouldn't cost over a couple bucks. Will send it as
soon as I receive your address. Clint
From: "dcsfoto" <david@kelm.com>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Jimmy Franklin Tape
love to have it. let me know how much to ship.
david@kelm.com
thanks
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| Subject: | Re: need engineer type to run a calculation |
Interesting... I have never been able to find an AC or a Reg that makes that
allocation... Please forward that to me if you have it. I understand it to
be accepted behavior in Alaska but it is not endorsed by the FAA.. I have
heard 10% not the 100 #
Regarding LSA's If you are flying an aircraft that has a max gross weight
of 1320.. it does not get to increase the gross when you put floats on it to
the 1430 allowed...
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of akflyer
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 3:08 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: need engineer type to run a calculation
well... the faa allows 100# gross increase when on floats.. The gross on all
my certified aircraft were more on floats than wheels or skis. Look up the
rules for sport AC.. on floats it is 1420 not 1320..
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Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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5:26 PM
4:53 PM
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| Subject: | Re: need engineer type to run a calculation |
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
Federal Aviation Administration
14 CFR Parts 1, 21, 43, 45, 61, 65, and
91
[Docket No. FAA200111133; Amendment
No. 153; 2185; 4339; 4524; 61110; 65
45; 91282]
RIN 2120AH19
Certification of Aircraft and Airmen for
the Operation of Light-Sport Aircraft
AGENCY: Federal Aviation
Administration (FAA), DOT.
ACTION: Final rule.
SUMMARY: The FAA is creating a new
rule for the manufacture, certification,
operation, and maintenance of lightsport
aircraft. Light-sport aircraft weigh
less than 1,320 pounds (1,430 pounds
for aircraft intended for operation on
water) and are heavier and faster than
ultralight vehicles and include
airplanes, gliders, balloons, powered
parachutes, weight-shift-control aircraft,
and gyroplanes. This action is necessary
to address advances in sport and
recreational aviation technology, lack of
appropriate regulations for existing
aircraft, several petitions for
rulemaking, and petitions for
exemptions from existing regulations.
The intended effect of this action is to
provide for the manufacture of safe and
economical certificated aircraft that
exceed the limits currently allowed by
ultralight regulation, and to allow
operation of these aircraft by certificated
pilots for sport and recreation, to carry
a passenger, and to conduct flight
training and towing in a safe manner.
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Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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| Subject: | Re: need engineer type to run a calculation |
John:
Like yourself I have heard this for quite a while and I believer there are
a few manufacturers who actually certify their planes differently for
floats. The reason, as I under stand it, is that in the water the floats do
not stress the airframe in any way. In the air, once past 60 mph., the
floats actually fly their own weight again removing the stress of the
additional weight, which for small planes is around 100Lb.
Also like yourself if there is anything written on this I'm interested! An
extra hundred lb. (to 1050) would make my float plane a two passenger
machine even with my considerable mass aboard. In the meantime I have come
close to 950lb....Full fuel and camping gear.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdmcbean
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 11:32 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: need engineer type to run a calculation
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> <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
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> Interesting... I have never been able to find an AC or a Reg
> that makes that
> allocation... Please forward that to me if you have it. I
> understand it to
> be accepted behavior in Alaska but it is not endorsed by the
> FAA.. I have
> heard 10% not the 100 #
>
> Regarding LSA's If you are flying an aircraft that has a max
> gross weight
> of 1320.. it does not get to increase the gross when you put
> floats on it to
> the 1430 allowed...
>
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> 208.337.5111
> www.kitfoxaircraft.com
> "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of akflyer
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 3:08 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: need engineer type to run a calculation
>
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> well... the faa allows 100# gross increase when on floats..
> The gross on all
> my certified aircraft were more on floats than wheels or
> skis. Look up the
> rules for sport AC.. on floats it is 1420 not 1320..
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> Leonard Perry
> Soldotna AK
> Avid "C" / Mk IV
> 582 IVO IFA
> Full Lotus 1260
> 95% complete
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| Subject: | Re: need engineer type to run a calculation |
http://forum.full-lotus.com/viewtopic.php?t
the float manufacture seems to be under the impression that FAA allows a 100# increase
when you go on floats also...
Every certified AC I have had allowed the 100# gross increase when on floats..
the ruling says you get an extra 110#. I may be confused, but if so then everyone
who has a floatplane here is too.
Bottom line for 99% of the guys here is if they can get it in the plane, then get
the plane in the air, they will swear that they are just under gross and could
have safely hauled another 50 pounds..if they could not get it off the water,
the passenger lied about thier weight..
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Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=127284#127284
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| Subject: | Jimmy Franklin Tape |
Blasphemy!!! My downloaded copy from Lazair.com is sacred. Not sure if
their site is still running.
Ron NB Ore KF IV Speedster
>From: "Clint Bazzill" <clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Jimmy Franklin Tape
>Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 19:54:17 +0000
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><clint_bazzill@hotmail.com>
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>I have an origional Jimmy Franklin tape flying is Oskosh. Am going to
>throw it out or send it to someone for shipping only. Clint
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sorry guys I am trying to test my new email,
thanks...MARKN61AC
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I am testing my email,sorry for the inconveinence
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sorry guys I have been having problems with my email,just checking to
see if it posts.....
Thanks Mark N61AC
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| Subject: | Att'n Clem Wehner |
Clem - I have been trying for days to reply to your post about the droop
tips, but cannot seem to post to you.
Can you give me a phone # please ?
Please reply to me directly < jmcmanus@polarcom.com >
Thanks Clem
Jim McManus
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