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1. 05:03 AM - Fuel Sensor Leak ()
2. 07:02 AM - Re: Fuel Sensor Leak (dcsfoto)
3. 08:07 AM - Re: need engineer type to run a calculation (akflyer)
4. 09:11 AM - NSI re-drives (Paul Steger)
5. 09:40 AM - Re: NSI re-drives (Rick)
6. 09:49 AM - Re: NSI re-drives (Rick)
7. 10:00 AM - FYI--NGK spark plugs for 912 (John Ciolino)
8. 11:07 AM - Please remove this address from the listThank you (John Disher)
9. 11:53 AM - Re: Re: need engineer type to run a calculation (Lowell Fitt)
10. 12:24 PM - Re: NSI re-drives (Peter Graichen)
11. 02:40 PM - New LSA Continental engine ()
12. 03:10 PM - Re: New LSA Continental engine (jdmcbean)
13. 03:17 PM - Re: New LSA Continental engine (David Estapa)
14. 05:55 PM - Control Cables (Dan Billingsley)
15. 06:57 PM - Re: need engineer type to run a calculation (akflyer)
16. 08:30 PM - Re: NSI re-drives (john oakley)
17. 08:35 PM - Re: Control Cables (john oakley)
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| Subject: | Fuel Sensor Leak |
All
My fuel sensor leaks where it screws into the header tank. It's the
float type. To orient it properly (so that it will rise with fluid and
not be upside down or sideways), I can't screw it in tight. I used
Rector 5 for the thread sealant but it didn't do the job. Any
suggestions???
Frank
N5929, Kitfox, Series 7
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Billingsley
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: How Big is the Hole?
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Sensor Leak |
I use form-a-gasket for aviation, spruce has it and many auto stores
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| Subject: | Re: need engineer type to run a calculation |
I guess that is a matter of perception.. ask a beaver driver if they think the
extra 100 pounds is worth it..you would be suprised what they say..but his has
now been beat to death..bottom line, you fly yours however you have to to make
yourself comfortable and I will fly mine how I want. I like to be safe, but
I also like to be realistic.
--------
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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Finally gave up (for now) completing my model IV and bought a nice model 5
from the orig. builder. It has the non-turbo Subaru NSI engine/re-drive
package. After 12 hours of me flying it, and 170 hrs. total, the re-drive
unit suddenly developed a noise. Noticed it in flight. Now when I free-wheel
turn the prop on the ground there is a noise like a stiff wire scraping on a
turning hub. It had been absolutely quiet. Found out NSI is defunct. Does
anybody support these re-drive units? Did Lance Wheeler of NSI design this
unit, or was it off-the-shelf from someone else. A guy at Oshkosh said to
get rid of that drive! Its junk! But didnt say why. Does anyone make a
bolt-on replacement drive? Help!
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If it was the older version there was an up grade to different
components, bearings and shaft. Although NSI is gone there may still be
some support and if you are lucky a redrive on the shelf. As far as
junk, well I put 600 hours on mine with the turbo engine and not a
whimper. I will look for the new company number. Could be something
simple and easy or not, but very difficult to fix in the air for sure. I
would ground it for now my friend.
Rick
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Steger
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 9:02 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI re-drives
--> <paulsteger@hotmail.com>
Finally gave up (for now) completing my model IV and bought a nice model
5
from the orig. builder. It has the non-turbo Subaru NSI engine/re-drive
package. After 12 hours of me flying it, and 170 hrs. total, the
re-drive
unit suddenly developed a noise. Noticed it in flight. Now when I
free-wheel
turn the prop on the ground there is a noise like a stiff wire scraping
on a
turning hub. It had been absolutely quiet. Found out NSI is defunct.
Does
anybody support these re-drive units? Did Lance Wheeler of NSI design
this
unit, or was it off-the-shelf from someone else. A guy at Oshkosh said
to
get rid of that drive! Its junk! But didnt say why. Does anyone make
a
bolt-on replacement drive? Help!
_________________________________________________________________
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OK, found it. When you call ask for Craig. They wont answer NSI but this
will get you as close as possible to getting the redrive either repaired
or replaced. You might find a used one or spare out there some where. I
sold mine of course with the engine package. I do have the CAP assembly.
The number is 360-474-8118. Good luck.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Steger
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 9:02 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI re-drives
--> <paulsteger@hotmail.com>
Finally gave up (for now) completing my model IV and bought a nice model
5
from the orig. builder. It has the non-turbo Subaru NSI engine/re-drive
package. After 12 hours of me flying it, and 170 hrs. total, the
re-drive
unit suddenly developed a noise. Noticed it in flight. Now when I
free-wheel
turn the prop on the ground there is a noise like a stiff wire scraping
on a
turning hub. It had been absolutely quiet. Found out NSI is defunct.
Does
anybody support these re-drive units? Did Lance Wheeler of NSI design
this
unit, or was it off-the-shelf from someone else. A guy at Oshkosh said
to
get rid of that drive! Its junk! But didnt say why. Does anyone make
a
bolt-on replacement drive? Help!
_________________________________________________________________
Booking a flight? Know when to buy with airfare predictions on MSN
Travel.
http://travel.msn.com/Articles/aboutfarecast.aspx&ocid=T001MSN25A07001
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| Subject: | FYI--NGK spark plugs for 912 |
I am replacing the spark plugs on my Kitfox during the "annual". I use NGK
DCPR7E. NGK has changed the part number of these plugs to NGK 3932. Several
of the auto parts stores I called could not find the original number in
their systems even though they carried NGK plugs. If you use these plugs
make note of the new part number.
In additionn during my search I found a wide swing is price--from $2.89 each
at NAPA to $4.29 each at CarQuest. It pays to shop around.
John Ciolino
IV-1200
N9294Y
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| Subject: | Please remove this address from the listThank you |
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| Subject: | Re: need engineer type to run a calculation |
I understand and agree. One of the reasons I mentioned it is an experience I
had while working as an SOR (load planner for United Airlines) in a previous
life. I missed 1000 lbs in the Manual Pit - under the horizontal
stabillizer - as far aft as you can go W&B wise. It didn't get on the
manifest and was not factored into the MAC for trim settings on takeoff. I
talked to a pilot later and he laughed and told me that a tap of the trim
switch on the stick was all it would take to correct the trim. These things
fly at over 800,000 and my thousand pounds was less than .2% of the gross
wt.
1000 lbs that far aft in most other airplanes would take a lot more than a
tap on the elevator trim switch. I was just questioning the absolute number
rather than the concept.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 8:07 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: need engineer type to run a calculation
>
> I guess that is a matter of perception.. ask a beaver driver if they think
> the extra 100 pounds is worth it..you would be suprised what they say..but
> his has now been beat to death..bottom line, you fly yours however you
> have to to make yourself comfortable and I will fly mine how I want. I
> like to be safe, but I also like to be realistic.
>
> --------
> Leonard Perry
> Soldotna AK
> Avid "C" / Mk IV
> 582 IVO IFA
> Full Lotus 1260
> 95% complete
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=127471#127471
>
>
>
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Hi Paul:
The original NSI PSRU is rather difficult to repair. It is not impossible,
though. The problem is that the housing is a solid can, with all the parts
pressed in from one end. It is difficult to pull the part out for
replacement. But as I said, it is not impossible. A few years ago, I sent
mine back to NSI and they replaced a bunch of parts, including the shaft,
sprague clutch (which NSI called a linear device?) and several other parts.
Mine performed flawlessly for 800 hrs. I did replace it with the new larger,
split housing unit that NSI came out with shortly before they went belly up.
I am keeping the old one as a stand-by spare, but would be willing to part
with it at the right price. If you are interested please make an offer. In
the meantime DO NOT fly with your gearbox if there is any indication of
internal problems. Per NSI's instructions, check the gearbox before every
start by placing your index finger against a prop blade hub as far inboard
as possible and rotate the prop with that index finger a complete
revolution, feeling for any unevenness. If unevenness is felt the airplane
is grounded due to imminent catastrophic failure.
Peter Graichen
http:/home.neo.rr.com/n10pg/kitfox.htm
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Steger
Sent: Saturday, 04 August, 2007 12:02
Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI re-drives
--> <paulsteger@hotmail.com>
Finally gave up (for now) completing my model IV and bought a nice model 5
from the orig. builder. It has the non-turbo Subaru NSI engine/re-drive
package. After 12 hours of me flying it, and 170 hrs. total, the re-drive
unit suddenly developed a noise. Noticed it in flight. Now when I free-wheel
turn the prop on the ground there is a noise like a stiff wire scraping on a
turning hub. It had been absolutely quiet. Found out NSI is defunct. Does
anybody support these re-drive units? Did Lance Wheeler of NSI design this
unit, or was it off-the-shelf from someone else. A guy at Oshkosh said to
get rid of that drive! It's junk! But didn't say why. Does anyone make a
bolt-on replacement drive? Help!
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| Subject: | New LSA Continental engine |
Does any of you Oshkosh returnees have any info on the new LSA engine from Continental,
the 0-200D? Mostly interested on the weight and price.Might be a good
option to the Jab. Cessna is going to use it in their new LSA.----Leon Morris/Classic4/50%/Flower
Mound,TX
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| Subject: | New LSA Continental engine |
We are a Continental OEM and have been talking with them... It is not complete
yet Pricing is supposed to be competitive to the Jab and Rotax and they are talking
about 20 lbs lighter.. Not complete yet.. so I guess we'll see.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of l.morris@tx.rr.com
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 3:39 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: New LSA Continental engine
Does any of you Oshkosh returnees have any info on the new LSA engine from Continental,
the 0-200D? Mostly interested on the weight and price.Might be a good
option to the Jab. Cessna is going to use it in their new LSA.----Leon Morris/Classic4/50%/Flower
Mound,TX
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| Subject: | Re: New LSA Continental engine |
Only info out was it would be 25 Lb lighter than the current 0-200.
David Estapa
Woodstock, Georgia
S5TD N97DE 912ULS Phase 1 Testing
On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 14:39:04 -0700 <l.morris@tx.rr.com> writes:
>
> Does any of you Oshkosh returnees have any info on the new LSA
> engine from Continental, the 0-200D? Mostly interested on the weight
> and price.Might be a good option to the Jab. Cessna is going to use
> it in their new LSA.----Leon Morris/Classic4/50%/Flower Mound,TX
>
>
>
>
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I've decided to replace my rudder control cables as they came with the kit already
nicopressed from the previous owner. Since I didn't do them and my life is
litterally in the balance of (were they done correctly or not?) ...I can't move
forward and cover the fuselage until I do this. That being said...
As I look at AC Spruce I see three options of cable type (7x7, 7x19,& 1x19) and
then a choice of Galvinized or SS. The diameter of my existing cable is 3/32
and I am leaning towards the 7x19 SS. Does anyone know which one comes with
the kit and have any good reasons why I should choose different?
Always best to learn from those who have gone before :>)
Dan B
Mesa, AZ
KF-IV , 912S 314DW
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| Subject: | Re: need engineer type to run a calculation |
Lowel,
I did some checking today.. My experience was that when I put the PA18 or 12 or
20 on EDO 2000's I got a 100 pound gross increase. I talked to a part 135 operator
today who has cubs, beavers and otters 180s 206 etc, and he said it depended
on the float manufacture and the plane. Some give you the weight of the
float minus the weight of the fixed gear, some give you the full weight of the
float system, some are a fixed number.... Regaurdless, I have full lotus for
my Avid and they say 100# on the full lotus forum and stated that the floats
actually create 85-90% of their weight in lift. I am not going to be to bashfull
about uping my gross 100# or what ever I can get of the water...loaded WITHIN
the CG range.
--------
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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I believe Craig was the one that rebuilt my prop.
John Oakley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: NSI re-drives
OK, found it. When you call ask for Craig. They wont answer NSI but this
will get you as close as possible to getting the redrive either repaired
or replaced. You might find a used one or spare out there some where. I
sold mine of course with the engine package. I do have the CAP assembly.
The number is 360-474-8118. Good luck.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Steger
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 9:02 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: NSI re-drives
--> <paulsteger@hotmail.com>
Finally gave up (for now) completing my model IV and bought a nice model
5
from the orig. builder. It has the non-turbo Subaru NSI engine/re-drive
package. After 12 hours of me flying it, and 170 hrs. total, the
re-drive
unit suddenly developed a noise. Noticed it in flight. Now when I
free-wheel
turn the prop on the ground there is a noise like a stiff wire scraping
on a
turning hub. It had been absolutely quiet. Found out NSI is defunct.
Does
anybody support these re-drive units? Did Lance Wheeler of NSI design
this
unit, or was it off-the-shelf from someone else. A guy at Oshkosh said
to
get rid of that drive! It's junk! But didn't say why. Does anyone make
a
bolt-on replacement drive? Help!
_________________________________________________________________
Booking a flight? Know when to buy with airfare predictions on MSN
Travel.
http://travel.msn.com/Articles/aboutfarecast.aspx&ocid=T001MSN25A07001
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Dan,
I should have pointed my cables out when you were here. I had my cables made
at a company in Lake Havasu. They are beautiful fittings, no ugly stuff. I
had them made from 7 x 19 ss that is the most flexible, the 7 x 7 are the
most abrasive resistant but none of that in the plastic sleeves we use.
John Oakley
_____
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Billingsley
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 6:55 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Control Cables
I've decided to replace my rudder control cables as they came with the kit
already nicopressed from the previous owner. Since I didn't do them and my
life is litterally in the balance of (were they done correctly or not?) ...I
can't move forward and cover the fuselage until I do this. That being
said...
As I look at AC Spruce I see three options of cable type (7x7, 7x19,& 1x19)
and then a choice of Galvinized or SS. The diameter of my existing cable is
3/32 and I am leaning towards the 7x19 SS. Does anyone know which one comes
with the kit and have any good reasons why I should choose different?
Always best to learn from those who have gone before :>)
Dan B
Mesa, AZ
KF-IV , 912S 314DW
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