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1. 04:27 AM - Re: Re: Kingfox tires (Kevin Ridsdale)
2. 05:04 AM - Re: Thoughts on stall warning device?? (Perkins, Mike)
3. 06:03 AM - Re: FW: The No. 3 (Lynn Matteson)
4. 06:10 AM - Re: Fixed or removalble wing tips? (Michael Logan)
5. 06:11 AM - Re: Thoughts on stall warning device?? (Michael Logan)
6. 06:11 AM - Re: Fixed or removalble wing tips? (Lynn Matteson)
7. 06:44 AM - Re: FW: The No. 3 (Michel Verheughe)
8. 08:46 AM - Re: Fixed or removalble wing tips? Messed this one up (Michael Logan)
9. 08:58 AM - Re: Re: Kingfox tires (Noel Loveys)
10. 09:45 AM - Re: FW: The No. 3 (Lynn Matteson)
11. 09:46 AM - Re: Thoughts on stall warning device?? (kitfoxmike)
12. 07:58 PM - Re: Fuel Line Tubing (RAY Gignac)
13. 08:42 PM - Re: New LSA Continental engine (Francisco dcubj3 Terra)
14. 09:59 PM - Meiste Lift Reserve info (Michael Gibbs)
15. 10:36 PM - Radio / intercom (John Allen)
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| Subject: | Re: Kingfox tires |
As the manufacturer the design (reccommended) pressure
for the King Fox tire is 8-10 PSI.
Kevin Ridsdale
MiPPi Ultralights
--- Noel Loveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
>
> I have only taxied my plane on wheels. The crowd
> over at the Avid site,
> before I found this site, recommended 6psi for my
> tundra tires. They are
> huge in comparison to the tires on your Arrow but
> are dwarfed by the King
> Fox tires. They feel rock hard with as little as
> 8psi. I have been told
> they are safe to fly with as little as 4psi. The
> important thing is both
> tires have the same pressure.
>
> Your tires would be considered low for a DC8 but
> just right for your Arrow.
> Go to U-Tube and search "kitfoxflyer" you will see
> the advantages of the
> tundra tires.
>
> Noel
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > Michael Gibbs
> > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 12:52 PM
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kingfox tires
> >
> >
> > <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
> >
> > Noel asks:
> >
> > >Are the tires on your Piper Turbo Arrow III low
> pressure?? That
> > >would make a difference.
> >
> > Recommended pressure for the mains is 30 psi and
> the nose wheel is 27
> > psi. Is that low pressure?
> >
> > Mike G.
> > List Mom
> > Model IV-1200, N728KF
> > Phoenix, AZ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>
> Web Forums!
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on stall warning device?? |
I was pretty impressed with the cost of a Reserve Lift Indicator made
for sale by Kelly Meiste, (815) 684-9922, email: kellymeiste@jcwifi.com
. It works via differential pressure using a two-orifice probe that
mounts below the wing. The 2" analog gauge is marked in green, yellow,
and red segments. I think Kelly was asking $175 for a complete kit. It's
not fancy, but it would get the job done.
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| Subject: | Re: FW: The No. 3 |
Yessir, that's my baby (sorry, couldn't resist...apologies to Al
Jolson)....it was in this spot for about 30 minutes, before I moved
it to the camping area, about a quarter-mile away...this was at
Hondo, TX, June 1, this year....and no guys, I did NOT pay Roger to
post this picture (but I'll buy ya a beer, Roger ) : )
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/369+ hrs
do not archive
On Aug 10, 2007, at 8:53 PM, Roger McConnell wrote:
>
>
> Anyone recognize this airplane. Hey Lynn is this your baby? Nice
> paint job.
>
>
> Roger McConnell, Duncan, OK
>
> Model 7 Trigear, Rotax 912uls
>
> Flying sense Jan. 06
>
>
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| Subject: | Fixed or removalble wing tips? |
Keep the longer wings, you will never put them back on if you take them off.
You get off the ground quicker and have a higher gross weight.
Mike
S 5 Subaru EA81
_____
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SUE MICHAELS
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:31 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Fixed or removalble wing tips?
Yes a trivial question. Is their a good reason to but all that hardware at
the end of the wing to make them with removable tips.
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| Subject: | Thoughts on stall warning device?? |
Seat of your pants. If you can't tell a Kitfox is going to stall, you
should practice a lot more.
_____
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SUE MICHAELS
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 11:23 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Thoughts on stall warning device??
What is being used for a stall warning device that works good and does not
empty my wallet?
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| Subject: | Re: Fixed or removalble wing tips? |
I just use the anchor nut itself...drill for the screw, locate the
nut and cleco it on the top of the base material, drill through one
hole, cleco, and drill through for the other hole, remove and drill
the center hole slightly oversize for the screw. Install anchor nut
from below with a screw from above, cleco one side and install rivet,
then remove cleco and install the other rivet. If you want, you can
wait until riveted to oversize the center hole, making sure not to
get down into the threads of the anchor nut.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/369+ hrs
On Aug 10, 2007, at 9:44 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
>
> There is a special tool that helps in the spacing of the holes for the
> anchor nut ;-) Hard to get away form "special" tools.
>
> Noel
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 7:07 PM
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fixed or removalble wing tips?
>>
>>
>>
>> In my sometimes not-so-humble opinion, all metal anchor nuts far
>> outweigh rivnuts in a couple of ways....weight being one of
>> them...yes, they weigh more, but they won't ever turn once they are
>> riveted onto the material to which they are attached. I've been
>> warned against using the rivnuts if you can possibly get behind the
>> area where the "nut" is to be installed. If the rivnut and its screw
>> ever seize up, the rivnut will break loose from the backing
>> material,
>> and you'll have to drill it out...IF you can get the drill to
>> actually drill, and not just rotate the whole business. On the other
>> hand, the two rivets that hold an anchor nut in place will seldom
>> ever shear off, should the "nut" and screw ever seize up in a
>> similar
>> situation.
>>
>> I installed my wingtips with the kit that Skystar sold, (John and
>> Debra probably have them) which included anchor nuts and attaching
>> strips, and I attached my windshield/skylight using the same
>> method...anchor nuts attached to the butt rib capstrips.
>>
>> Another plus is not having to buy the Rivnut tool.
>>
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Grass Lake, Michigan
>> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
>> flying w/369+ hrs
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FW: The No. 3 |
On Aug 11, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Lynn Matteson wrote:
> Yessir, that's my baby (sorry, couldn't resist...apologies to Al
> Jolson)...
You shouldn't apologise, Mister Matteson! Your baby is beautiful and
you should say it out loud! :-)
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
do not archive
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| Subject: | Fixed or removalble wing tips? Messed this one up |
Sorry, I read the original wrong, I was thinking long and short wings
option. I have the removable wingtips and used anchor nuts.
Mike
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Logan
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Fixed or removalble wing tips?
Keep the longer wings, you will never put them back on if you take them off.
You get off the ground quicker and have a higher gross weight.
Mike
S 5 Subaru EA81
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SUE MICHAELS
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:31 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Fixed or removalble wing tips?
Yes a trivial question. Is their a good reason to but all that hardware at
the end of the wing to make them with removable tips.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref
"http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Kingfox tires |
The tires I had on my plane for a very short time have Max 10psi marked on
them. To avoid any confusion they are much smaller than the King Fox
tires.
Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern
Campbellton, Newfoundland,
Canada
Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA
Aerocet 1100s
<mailto:noelloveys@yahoo.ca> noelloveys@yahoo.ca
Do not archive
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Kevin Ridsdale
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 8:57 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Kingfox tires
>
>
> <ksridsdale@mipowerparachute.com>
>
> As the manufacturer the design (reccommended) pressure
> for the King Fox tire is 8-10 PSI.
> Kevin Ridsdale
> MiPPi Ultralights
>
> --- Noel Loveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> > <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
> >
> > I have only taxied my plane on wheels. The crowd
> > over at the Avid site,
> > before I found this site, recommended 6psi for my
> > tundra tires. They are
> > huge in comparison to the tires on your Arrow but
> > are dwarfed by the King
> > Fox tires. They feel rock hard with as little as
> > 8psi. I have been told
> > they are safe to fly with as little as 4psi. The
> > important thing is both
> > tires have the same pressure.
> >
> > Your tires would be considered low for a DC8 but
> > just right for your Arrow.
> > Go to U-Tube and search "kitfoxflyer" you will see
> > the advantages of the
> > tundra tires.
> >
> > Noel
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On
> > Behalf Of
> > > Michael Gibbs
> > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 12:52 PM
> > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kingfox tires
> > >
> > >
> > > <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
> > >
> > > Noel asks:
> > >
> > > >Are the tires on your Piper Turbo Arrow III low
> > pressure?? That
> > > >would make a difference.
> > >
> > > Recommended pressure for the mains is 30 psi and
> > the nose wheel is 27
> > > psi. Is that low pressure?
> > >
> > > Mike G.
> > > List Mom
> > > Model IV-1200, N728KF
> > > Phoenix, AZ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > browse
> > Subscriptions page,
> > FAQ,
> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
> >
> > Web Forums!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FW: The No. 3 |
No, Michel, I wasn't apologizing for the plane, just for stealing the
words from one of Al Jolson's songs from the 1920's.
As an aside, while I was at Oshkosh, a guy came up to me and asked if
I had the plane out in Ione, California a few weeks back. He said he
was the guy who was working on a wing just inside the workshop at
Eagles Nest, a private airport somewhere near Cameron Park. I didn't
recognize the name Ione right away, but did when he told me who he was.
Lynn
do not archive
On Aug 11, 2007, at 9:43 AM, Michel Verheughe wrote:
>
> On Aug 11, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Lynn Matteson wrote:
>> Yessir, that's my baby (sorry, couldn't resist...apologies to Al
>> Jolson)...
>
> You shouldn't apologise, Mister Matteson! Your baby is beautiful
> and you should say it out loud! :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Michel Verheughe
> Norway
> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on stall warning device?? |
10% back, I got no decrease in top speed, the turns are like on rails, and more
stable in rough conditions. I wouldn't fly without them, oh and about a 4mph
lower on stall. I don't use flaps, so I can't really comment on that, but I
did test the stall with flaps and it's 4mph lower as well. I will add that if
you keep your speed above 70 you can do anything you want in the pattern, if
you like to knife edge it to the runway, do it, if you want to do a 60degree bank,
base to final over the approach end of the runway, 20ft off, do it. The
fox also likes to do flat wing turns, you know all rudder and opposite aileron.
I like doing those 5ft off the runway, cool for spot landings, avoiding birds,
things like that.
--------
kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
enough"
Do not archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=128634#128634
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| Subject: | Fuel Line Tubing |
I replaced mine with black fuel line I obtained from the local boat dealer,
been working great!
Ray
>From: John Allen <kitfoxfugit@yahoo.com>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel Line Tubing
>Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:14:52 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Fuel Line Tubing
>From: "DanM" <danm@gangnailtruss.com>
>
>
>I'm getting ready to install the fuel lines from the
>wing tanks to the
> header tank.
>
>
>Dan, when I replaced mine a year ago, I used fule line
>from a place that sells snowmobiles, ATV's and
>motorcycles. It has yellowed a bit in the year, but
>not deteriorated despite lots of gas through it. We
>have alcohol in our car gas in CA.
>
>John Allen
>Kitfox IV Speedster w/ 912UL @ O70
>
>
>Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car
>Finder tool.
>http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New LSA Continental engine |
not yet
----- Original Message -----
From: <l.morris@tx.rr.com>
To: "Kitfox" <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 6:39 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: New LSA Continental engine
>
> Does any of you Oshkosh returnees have any info on the new LSA engine
from Continental, the 0-200D? Mostly interested on the weight and
price.Might be a good option to the Jab. Cessna is going to use it in their
new LSA.----Leon Morris/Classic4/50%/Flower Mound,TX
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
11/8/2007 14:29
>
>
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| Subject: | Meiste Lift Reserve info |
Posted on behalf of Randy Daughenbaugh
Mike G.
List Mom
N728KF
---
Thanks to Mike Perkins for Kelly's email address. I wrote to him for
more info and really like what he sent.
I am getting one. I for one would like to know that I am getting
close to stall before any of the signs appear and with the analog
gage I will have that info.
Randy Daughenbaugh, N10NH
Black Hills of South Dakota, - Near Mount Rushmore
Home Strip, Grass Room in Hangar for visitors
Series 5/7 (7 Firewall Forward) 912S, Warp Drive Taper Tip
Gross Weight 1320 lbs, Flying since November 2004
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly Meiste [mailto:kellymeiste@jcwifi.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Lift Reserve
Hi Randy,
I'm not sure how my name got to the Kitfox list but possibly I should post
some info about my AOA kit so others will be aware if they are looking for
such an instrument at a reasonable cost.
I've designed & built my first kit about 2 years ago for my plane (Zenith
Zodiac 601) that I fly from my own grass strip. I have about 1,200 ft with
tall corn on both ends, plus I'm on a hill. So I needed something to get me
in and out safely. I really didn't think the instrument would help that much
.....but it did! I now land on my strip and only use up about half my
runway if I really push it to the limit on my gage.
Soon after I started flying with my kit others saw it & heard about it (just
like you have) and asked me to fabricate one for them as well. Now It's a
part time job, and as I'm getting ready to retire soon it looks like it may
turn into a full time job.
Anyway attached you will find a poster I made up with some info on my kit.
If you have any questions fill free to ask, and your welcome to post this
info to the kitfox list as well.
Fly safe!
Kelly Meiste
RESERVE LIFT GAGE KIT
COMPLETE & READY TO INSTALL IN NEW OR CURRENTLY FLYING AIRCRAFT
AERODYNAMICALLY SHAPED PROBE AND MOUNTING BRACKETS MACHINED FROM 6061
ALUMINUM (CUSTOM MOUNTS AVAILABLE).
2" DIAMETER EASY TO READ GAGE WITH MOUNTING BRACKET, OR SIMPLY
INSTALL ABOVE YOUR INSTRUMENT PANEL FOR BEST VIEW DURING TAKE OFF AND
LANDINGS.
SUPPLIED WITH 33' OF PROBE TO GAGE RIGID VINYL TUBING.
"AN" HARDWARE, AND TUBING FITTINGS INCLUDED.
VERY EASY INSTALLATION.
COST IS ONLY $175 PLUS $15 S&H.
(LESS THAN HALF THE COST OF COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE KITS)
CONTACT:
KELLY MEISTE (EAA MEMBER 623517)
PHONE - (815) 684-9922
EMAIL - <mailto:kellymeiste@jcwifi.com>
YES THIS GAGE IS IN MY PLANE, ONCE YOU USE ONE YOU WOULD NEVER WANT
TO FLY AGAIN WITHOUT IT.
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| Subject: | Radio / intercom |
kaufjm@aol.com asked:
I currently have a sporties SP-200 hand held radio
with D/C head set.
Works
ok but I don't have intercom. I was wondering what
some of you guys are
using.
You can get a small portable intercom, plug it into
your radio where your headset goes, and plug your
headsets into the intercom. It runs off a 9V battery,
so you have to be sure to turn it off when not in use.
My boy did this in a Champ that has no electrical
system and it works great with the Val radio installed
in there. Both occupants can hear each other and the radio.
Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/
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