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1. 04:19 AM - Fluff: Mid Mich Burgers (fox5flyer)
2. 04:48 AM - Re: "The thing that hath been... (Jim Crowder)
3. 05:52 AM - Re: "The thing that hath been... (Michael Logan)
4. 06:15 AM - Re: Ivo prop (kitfoxmike)
5. 06:19 AM - Re: "The thing that hath been... (kitfoxmike)
6. 06:54 AM - Re: "The thing that hath been... (kitfoxmike)
7. 07:09 AM - Re: "The thing that hath been... (Mdkitfox@aol.com)
8. 08:28 AM - Re: Ivo prop (jdmcbean)
9. 08:45 AM - Re: Re: "The thing that hath been... (Randy Daughenbaugh)
10. 08:48 AM - Re: "The thing that hath been... - AOA (jdmcbean)
11. 08:48 AM - Re: "The thing that hath been... AOA pg 2 (jdmcbean)
12. 11:18 AM - Re: Ivo prop (crazyivan)
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| Subject: | Fluff: Mid Mich Burgers |
I'm trying to find a few places in the mid Michigan area that are worthy
of flying to for breakfast, lunch, etc. Preferably airports that have a
cafe/restaurant within a half mile or so of the airport. Anybody have
any input?
Thanks,
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT
"If you don't read the newspaper you are
uninformed, if you do read
the newspaper you are misinformed."
Mark Twain
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| Subject: | "The thing that hath been... |
I have it installed on my Kitfox 5, but have never completed my fly off time
and I am now installing a Jabiru 3300 engine. Therefore I have never gotten
around to setting it up. The interesting thing is that last month at
Oshkosh I came upon a booth where they were selling the Lift Reserve
Indicator. It is the same unit I have and the company is InAir Instruments
LLC of Westerville, Ohio. The Internet site is www.liftreserve.com. The
owner is Al Mojzisik. I have his business card with all the information,
but I am sure it is available on the Internet site.
Jim Crowder
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mdkitfox@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:20 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: "The thing that hath been...
Johannes, et al,
How nice to hear from a voice from the past! Everything you mentioned
about Morgan Huntington is very true. When I met him back in the 80's, I
was an engineer in the Cockpit Technology Office at FAA HQ and he was an old
guy with an invention he was trying to sell (by having the FAA mandate that
it be in all aircraft.) The flight standards folks had sent him to me
because they probably did not want to deal with him. Morgan was very nice
and I might add, quite competent. We went to Lee Airport in Annapolis where
he had a Cessna 150 equipped with his device. We took off and he kept that
mush indicator, as he called it, right on the hairy edge of a stall. That
old 150 must have had a 20+degree deck angle and was climbing right on out.
When we got to a couple of thousand feet he let that needle get in the red
and the wing stalled as advertised. Lower the nose and keep the needle out
of the red and she flew right out and continued to climb. Okay, his device
worked. But, the FAA was never going to mandate it. I sent Morgan to some
friends I had at NASA's at Langley Research Center. Bottom line, they put
on an old 737 and sure enough, it worked there to. That was pretty much all
I ever heard about the LRI until about 10 years ago at Oshkosh. Seems
Morgan had passed, but his family, I believe it was a son, continued selling
the device, but ran into a legal issue with another fellow selling the same
product under a different name. They were in competition, but I never did
hear the results of the legal fray. When I told Morgan's son about my
experience with his Dad, he was really moved. He gave me a system and I
have it installed in my Kitfox. Now,if I can just finish building the
plane, I can find out if it works on the very sophisticated Kitfox V.
Rick Weiss
13 years and still building - but the end is near!
Series V Speedster (Factory serial number 1) N39RW
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| Subject: | "The thing that hath been... |
Rick,
Where can one buy one of those mush meters?
When are you ever going to finish that plane?
Mike Logan
Series 5 N956ML
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Mdkitfox@aol.com
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: "The thing that hath been...
Johannes, et al,
How nice to hear from a voice from the past! Everything you mentioned about
Morgan Huntington is very true. When I met him back in the 80's, I was an
engineer in the Cockpit Technology Office at FAA HQ and he was an old guy
with an invention he was trying to sell (by having the FAA mandate that it
be in all aircraft.) The flight standards folks had sent him to me because
they probably did not want to deal with him. Morgan was very nice and I
might add, quite competent. We went to Lee Airport in Annapolis where he
had a Cessna 150 equipped with his device. We took off and he kept that
mush indicator, as he called it, right on the hairy edge of a stall. That
old 150 must have had a 20+degree deck angle and was climbing right on out.
When we got to a couple of thousand feet he let that needle get in the red
and the wing stalled as advertised. Lower the nose and keep the needle out
of the red and she flew right out and continued to climb. Okay, his device
worked. But, the FAA was never going to mandate it. I sent Morgan to some
friends I had at NASA's at Langley Research Center. Bottom line, they put
on an old 737 and sure enough, it worked there to. That was pretty much all
I ever heard about the LRI until about 10 years ago at Oshkosh. Seems
Morgan had passed, but his family, I believe it was a son, continued selling
the device, but ran into a legal issue with another fellow selling the same
product under a different name. They were in competition, but I never did
hear the results of the legal fray. When I told Morgan's son about my
experience with his Dad, he was really moved. He gave me a system and I
have it installed in my Kitfox. Now,if I can just finish building the
plane, I can find out if it works on the very sophisticated Kitfox V.
Rick Weiss
13 years and still building - but the end is near!
Series V Speedster (Factory serial number 1) N39RW
_____
AOL.com.
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You can buy the 72" patriot. But, cut it down to, well mine is at 69" at the moment.
I bought it at 70" and cut it down a little more, but didn't notice any
difference so I kept it at 69". I like the number 69... oh stop it steve.
Anyway, back to the subject at hand, great prop, wouldn't fly without it, you'll
love it.
--------
kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
enough"
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| Subject: | Re: "The thing that hath been... |
just so everybody knows, I love this product, I plan on calling and finding out
how much. I want it on my RV. Makes more sense than the AOA if it does what
it says it will, I just plain like it.
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
enough"
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| Subject: | Re: "The thing that hath been... |
Unit starts at 450.
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
enough"
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| Subject: | Re: "The thing that hath been... |
In a message dated 8/17/2007 8:53:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
michael.logan@cox.net writes:
Where can one buy one of those mush meters?
I have the one from Morgan, but I also have the electronic display version.
You can see them at LRIAOA.COM I'm not sure what the price is.
When are you ever going to finish that plane?
Good question. I hope it will fly at end of September.
How are you doing? Where are you now?
Rick
Series V Speedster - N39RW
http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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Eric,
We are an IVO dealer and can help.. Youll love the prop but the
72 on the UL is a little much. There are also 2 different style of blades
and that will effect the length as well.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Eric
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:34 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Ivo prop
Is anyone using a 72" in-flight adjustable Ivo prop on a Speedster with
912UL ?
How is the performance?
Eric
1:46 PM
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| Subject: | Re: "The thing that hath been... |
Hey, y'all, if you want to spend $450 for one of these things, you can. But
if you want to spend $175 plus shipping, contact Kelly Meiste. It is the
same thing.
KELLY MEISTE (EAA MEMBER 623517)
PHONE - (815) 684-9922
EMAIL - <mailto:kellymeiste@jcwifi.com>
Old Morgan Huntington had a great idea. It is too bad that he was not able
to gain better acceptance of his great instrument. Actually it gives about
the same info as the AOA instruments on all military and commercial planes.
GA is slow to catch on. I like this design because it requires no
electrical power (less to go wrong!) and If you lose your airspeed
indicator, you can fly fine with just this. It is a great instrument and
can give you great confidence in turns etc. The great thing is it still
works no matter what your loading, bank angle etc is.
Randy
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kitfoxmike
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:53 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: "The thing that hath been...
Unit starts at 450.
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not
flying enough"
Do not archive
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| Subject: | "The thing that hath been... - AOA |
There is another company that I have been working with recently on this very
item If interested give us a shout Might be able to save a little.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Crowder
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 5:46 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: "The thing that hath been...
I have it installed on my Kitfox 5, but have never completed my fly off time
and I am now installing a Jabiru 3300 engine. Therefore I have never gotten
around to setting it up. The interesting thing is that last month at
Oshkosh I came upon a booth where they were selling the Lift Reserve
Indicator. It is the same unit I have and the company is InAir Instruments
LLC of Westerville, Ohio. The Internet site is www.liftreserve.com
<http://www.liftreserve.com> . The owner is Al Mojzisik. I have his
business card with all the information, but I am sure it is available on the
Internet site.
Jim Crowder
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mdkitfox@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: "The thing that hath been...
Johannes, et al,
How nice to hear from a voice from the past! Everything you mentioned about
Morgan Huntington is very true. When I met him back in the 80's, I was an
engineer in the Cockpit Technology Office at FAA HQ and he was an old guy
with an invention he was trying to sell (by having the FAA mandate that it
be in all aircraft.) The flight standards folks had sent him to me because
they probably did not want to deal with him. Morgan was very nice and I
might add, quite competent. We went to Lee Airport in Annapolis where he
had a Cessna 150 equipped with his device. We took off and he kept that
mush indicator, as he called it, right on the hairy edge of a stall. That
old 150 must have had a 20+degree deck angle and was climbing right on out.
When we got to a couple of thousand feet he let that needle get in the red
and the wing stalled as advertised. Lower the nose and keep the needle out
of the red and she flew right out and continued to climb. Okay, his device
worked. But, the FAA was never going to mandate it. I sent Morgan to some
friends I had at NASA's at Langley Research Center. Bottom line, they put
on an old 737 and sure enough, it worked there to. That was pretty much all
I ever heard about the LRI until about 10 years ago at Oshkosh. Seems
Morgan had passed, but his family, I believe it was a son, continued selling
the device, but ran into a legal issue with another fellow selling the same
product under a different name. They were in competition, but I never did
hear the results of the legal fray. When I told Morgan's son about my
experience with his Dad, he was really moved. He gave me a system and I
have it installed in my Kitfox. Now,if I can just finish building the
plane, I can find out if it works on the very sophisticated Kitfox V.
Rick Weiss
13 years and still building - but the end is near!
Series V Speedster (Factory serial number 1) N39RW
_____
AOL.com.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref
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| Subject: | "The thing that hath been... AOA pg 2 |
There is another company that I have been working with recently on this very
item If interested give us a shout Might be able to save a little.
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Crowder
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 5:46 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: "The thing that hath been...
I have it installed on my Kitfox 5, but have never completed my fly off time
and I am now installing a Jabiru 3300 engine. Therefore I have never gotten
around to setting it up. The interesting thing is that last month at
Oshkosh I came upon a booth where they were selling the Lift Reserve
Indicator. It is the same unit I have and the company is InAir Instruments
LLC of Westerville, Ohio. The Internet site is www.liftreserve.com
<http://www.liftreserve.com> . The owner is Al Mojzisik. I have his
business card with all the information, but I am sure it is available on the
Internet site.
Jim Crowder
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mdkitfox@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: "The thing that hath been...
Johannes, et al,
How nice to hear from a voice from the past! Everything you mentioned about
Morgan Huntington is very true. When I met him back in the 80's, I was an
engineer in the Cockpit Technology Office at FAA HQ and he was an old guy
with an invention he was trying to sell (by having the FAA mandate that it
be in all aircraft.) The flight standards folks had sent him to me because
they probably did not want to deal with him. Morgan was very nice and I
might add, quite competent. We went to Lee Airport in Annapolis where he
had a Cessna 150 equipped with his device. We took off and he kept that
mush indicator, as he called it, right on the hairy edge of a stall. That
old 150 must have had a 20+degree deck angle and was climbing right on out.
When we got to a couple of thousand feet he let that needle get in the red
and the wing stalled as advertised. Lower the nose and keep the needle out
of the red and she flew right out and continued to climb. Okay, his device
worked. But, the FAA was never going to mandate it. I sent Morgan to some
friends I had at NASA's at Langley Research Center. Bottom line, they put
on an old 737 and sure enough, it worked there to. That was pretty much all
I ever heard about the LRI until about 10 years ago at Oshkosh. Seems
Morgan had passed, but his family, I believe it was a son, continued selling
the device, but ran into a legal issue with another fellow selling the same
product under a different name. They were in competition, but I never did
hear the results of the legal fray. When I told Morgan's son about my
experience with his Dad, he was really moved. He gave me a system and I
have it installed in my Kitfox. Now,if I can just finish building the
plane, I can find out if it works on the very sophisticated Kitfox V.
Rick Weiss
13 years and still building - but the end is near!
Series V Speedster (Factory serial number 1) N39RW
_____
AOL.com.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref
"http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
1:46 PM
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Here is my write up with my new Ivo last year...
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=17756
My initial numbers are about 200'/min high on the rate of climb and about 5mph
too fast but there was a good performance gain over the GSC. I have the 70" 3-blade
ultralight IvoProp and would not cut it down...I love the static thrust
and am not worried about a few more mph.
--------
Dave
Speedster 912 UL
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