---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/19/07: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:59 AM - Re: Subaru oil loss (avtar412) 2. 05:33 AM - Re: Rotax Voltage Regulator (369PL) 3. 06:00 AM - Re: Rotax Voltage Regulator (Mnflyer) 4. 06:22 AM - Re: Rotax Voltage Regulator (Marco Menezes) 5. 06:33 AM - Re: Morning Flight (Michel Verheughe) 6. 07:54 AM - Re: Rotax Voltage Regulator (Noel Loveys) 7. 11:37 AM - Re: Morning Flight (Torgeir Mortensen) 8. 12:06 PM - first flight of a kitfox 4-1200 (Norway) (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?=) 9. 12:38 PM - Re: first flight of a kitfox 4-1200 (Norway) (steve eccles) 10. 01:04 PM - Re: rib thickness (Zimmermans) 11. 01:42 PM - Re: Morning Flight (Michel Verheughe) 12. 01:48 PM - Re: first flight of a kitfox 4-1200 (Norway) (Michel Verheughe) 13. 01:56 PM - Re: first flight of a kitfox 4-1200 (Norway) (Torgeir Mortensen) 14. 02:06 PM - SV: first flight of a kitfox 4-1200 (Norway) (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?=) 15. 03:09 PM - Re: Fluff: Mid Mich Burgers (LaNita Begola) 16. 08:33 PM - Re: New and seeking info !! (Keithc) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:27 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Subaru oil loss From: "avtar412" Not sure of the NSI design but EA81's suck in on the right side rocker cover and blow out on the left. I have an oil seperator in the left side and both crack case vents out the bottom of the cowl. No messy sreak and I empty the seperator about once every 3-4 hrs. Clean and positive. John A. Serie 5 EA81T Intercooled. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129786#129786 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:33:54 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax Voltage Regulator From: "369PL" I posted the same question a few months ago. Some one sugested the keywest reggulator. It provides a more constant voltage on my aircraft. I also think it reduced my radio noise. But mine is on the inside of the firewall. I don't know how the heat will affect it. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129792#129792 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:00:06 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax Voltage Regulator From: "Mnflyer" The Keywest is probaly the best regulator available. I replaced the original Rotax one with a Keywest and it provided steady even voltage both were mounted on the engine side of the firewall didn't notice any noise reduction in the radio. -------- GB MNFlyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129798#129798 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:14 AM PST US From: Marco Menezes Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax Voltage Regulator Gary: The Key West solid-state regulator available from LEAF and many other sources (John & Deb?) is inexpensive and works great. I replaced the stock regulator a few years ago with the KW and it has operated flawlessly. There's a good Mike Strattman article on California Power System's website that describes all the alternatives and how they work. Marco Menezes KF II 582-90 N99KX All, It looks like my Rotax 582 three phase voltage regulator's dying. (It will occasionally go over voltage. I can re-set it and get it to work, but it's happening more often now.) Does anyone have a recommended replacement? I've mounted it in the engine compartment to minimize electrical noise in the cockpit and I suspect things are a little hot for the stock Rotax unit. Has anyone tried any of the Harley replacements? Any after-market units? Or should I just increase the cooling to the Rotax unit? Thanks, Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:33:38 AM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Morning Flight On Aug 17, 2007, at 1:54 AM, Torgeir Mortensen wrote: > "Hildringstimen" is a very moment of your life that you'll never forget Exactly, Torgeir; either at sea or in the air. Incidentally, here is the off-Kitfox-topic report of my flying a Slepcev Storch to Norway. It is worth looking at, if only for the view of the Sogn fjord! :-) http://home.online.no/~michel/storch/ Cheers, Michel Verheughe Norway Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 Do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:28 AM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Rotax Voltage Regulator If this is a problem that has been coming on slowly then I expect there is a problem with a ground in your system somewhere. First step is to make sure all the ground connections between the voltage regulator,battery and engine to the frame of the plane are nice and shiny clean. These solid state units (regardless of brand name) are designed to operate many years without attention. When they quit they normally don't come back. There is an operating envelope for these regulators in terms of operating temperature and your problems may be temperature related. you can try mounting a piece of 1" scat hose inside the cowl to direct air from the front of the cowl to the regulator. I have had serious EMI (Electro Magnetic Interference) in the past with my 582. The cause was in the spark plugs. The 582 requires resistor plugs AND resistor caps. because of an engine problem all my plugs shorted the resistor in the plugs I could hear the tower but the tower couldn't copy me at all even though my signal was strength 5. I was operating on batteries. Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern Campbellton, Newfoundland, Canada Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA Aerocet 1100s noelloveys@yahoo.ca -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marco Menezes Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 10:52 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Rotax Voltage Regulator Gary: The Key West solid-state regulator available from LEAF and many other sources (John & Deb?) is inexpensive and works great. I replaced the stock regulator a few years ago with the KW and it has operated flawlessly. There's a good Mike Strattman article on California Power System's website that describes all the alternatives and how they work. Marco Menezes KF II 582-90 N99KX Guy Buchanan wrote: All, It looks like my Rotax 582 three phase voltage regulator's dying. (It will occasionally go over voltage. I can re-set it and get it to work, but it's happening more often now.) Does anyone have a recommended replacement? I've mounted it in the engine compartment to minimize electrical ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:37:23 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Morning Flight From: "Torgeir Mortensen" On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 15:33:14 +0200, Michel Verheughe wrote: > > Incidentally, here is the off-Kitfox-topic report of my flying a Slepcev > Storch to Norway. It is worth looking at, if only for the view of the > Sogn fjord! :-) > > http://home.online.no/~michel/storch/ > > Cheers, > Michel Verheughe > Norway > Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 Hi Michel, What an interesting journey, -and write up.. This is the first time I've ever seen a stand-by compass mounted outside cockpit and right on top of the engine cowl. Am I right?? Thanks for sharing this with us. Torgeir. Do not archive Kitfox Model II, 1993 Engine: Rotax 532 with B gearbox Propeller: IVO UL 366Q Tromsoe NORWAY. Weather in Tromso right now: http://met.no/troms/index.html City map of Tromso: http://www.avinor.no/English/Airports/Tromso_Airport/?module=Articles;action=ArticleFolder.publicOpenFolder;ID=1453 Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:06:25 PM PST US From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?= Subject: Kitfox-List: first flight of a kitfox 4-1200 (Norway) It flew. My instructor took it to the air for a 20min flight today, and he was thrilled. Flew hands off with just a little bit pitch trim, and he was very pleased with the handling . He was reporting 100mph cruise with only 2600rpm of the Jabiru 2200 engine.? (think I have to check my ASI). The weather was not that good for a test flight, it was 10knot and some rain, hopefully the weather is better in a few days, Will come back with more numbers later. Geir Olav Kitfox 4-1200 (Speedster wing). ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:38:16 PM PST US From: "steve eccles" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: first flight of a kitfox 4-1200 (Norway) Geir Congrats on the flight , You will love that machine Steve From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Geir Olav =D8ien Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: first flight of a kitfox 4-1200 (Norway) It flew. My instructor took it to the air for a 20min flight today, and he was thrilled. Flew hands off with just a little bit pitch trim, and he was very pleased with the handling . He was reporting 100mph cruise with only 2600rpm of the Jabiru 2200 engine.? (think I have to check my ASI). The weather was not that good for a test flight, it was 10knot and some rain, hopefully the weather is better in a few days, Will come back with more numbers later. Geir Olav Kitfox 4-1200 (Speedster wing). ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:04:01 PM PST US From: "Zimmermans" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: rib thickness My series 5 ribs are 1/4 inch thick & the caps are 1/8 inch. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alberto Santori To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: rib thickness Hello to all, I'm Alberto from Italy. I'd like to know the thicikness of the plywood used for the ribs. What are the procedures to glue them to the aluminum spars? Thanks! Alberto ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Push the button! Crea il tuo blog e fatti vedere! Windows Live Spaces ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 8/16/2007 9:48 AM ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:42:41 PM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Morning Flight On Aug 19, 2007, at 8:24 PM, Torgeir Mortensen wrote: > This is the first time I've ever seen a stand-by compass mounted > outside cockpit and right on top of the engine cowl. Am I right?? ... I can confirm that the Storch mag compass was as inaccurate as the one I have in my Kitfox! :-) Cheers, Michel Verheughe Norway Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 Do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:48:34 PM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: first flight of a kitfox 4-1200 (Norway) On Aug 19, 2007, at 9:05 PM, Geir Olav ien wrote: > He was reporting 100mph cruise with only 2600rpm of the Jabiru 2200 > engine.? Congratulations, Geir! I am sure you'll have a lot of pleasure with your Kitfox - Jabiru combination. I also fly at 2600 RPM on cruise but it is more like 90 MPH. Your ASI might be slightly wrong. Going from the Rotax 582 to the Jabiru, I noticed that the air vent under the cowling, ahead of the firewall was creating a slight low pressure in the cockpit and I had to put my ASI to a static port, aft on the fuselage. Maybe you could check that. Another thing is that maybe your prop has a coarser pitch than mine. What is you static WOT RPM on the ground? Anyway, with my model 3, 100 MPH is the Vne so I am very happy cruising at 90 MPH. Cheers, Michel Verheughe Norway Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:56:33 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: first flight of a kitfox 4-1200 (Norway) From: "Torgeir Mortensen" Hei Geir Olav! Gratulerer med "first flight". N begynner morroa... Hilsen Torgeir (A congratulation in Norwegian.) :) On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 21:05:16 +0200, Geir Olav ien wrote: > It flew. My instructor took it to the air for a 20min flight today, and > he was thrilled. Flew hands off with just a little bit pitch trim, and > he was very pleased with the handling . He was reporting 100mph cruise > with only 2600rpm of the Jabiru 2200 engine.? (think I have to check my > ASI). The weather was not that good for a test flight, it was 10knot > and some rain, hopefully the weather is better in a few days, Will come > back with more numbers later. > Geir Olav > Kitfox 4-1200 (Speedster wing). > -- Torgeir Kitfox Model II, 1993 Engine: Rotax 532 with B gearbox Propeller: IVO UL 366Q Tromsoe NORWAY. Weather in Tromso right now: http://met.no/troms/index.html City map of Tromso: http://www.avinor.no/English/Airports/Tromso_Airport/?module=Articles;action=ArticleFolder.publicOpenFolder;ID=1453 Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:06:17 PM PST US From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?= Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: first flight of a kitfox 4-1200 (Norway) By the way, if you take a look on this address, here is some nice pictures taken of one of the other guys in the club. www.mikrofly.net The static rpm is 2950 (it is not the best choice propeller on this engine/airframe) but I will test if for a while. Hope to see you and your Kitfox one day Michel. Geir Olav -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] P vegne av Michel Verheughe Sendt: 19. august 2007 22:48 Til: kitfox-list@matronics.com Emne: Re: Kitfox-List: first flight of a kitfox 4-1200 (Norway) On Aug 19, 2007, at 9:05 PM, Geir Olav ien wrote: > He was reporting 100mph cruise with only 2600rpm of the Jabiru 2200 > engine.? Congratulations, Geir! I am sure you'll have a lot of pleasure with your Kitfox - Jabiru combination. I also fly at 2600 RPM on cruise but it is more like 90 MPH. Your ASI might be slightly wrong. Going from the Rotax 582 to the Jabiru, I noticed that the air vent under the cowling, ahead of the firewall was creating a slight low pressure in the cockpit and I had to put my ASI to a static port, aft on the fuselage. Maybe you could check that. Another thing is that maybe your prop has a coarser pitch than mine. What is you static WOT RPM on the ground? Anyway, with my model 3, 100 MPH is the Vne so I am very happy cruising at 90 MPH. Cheers, Michel Verheughe Norway Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:40 PM PST US From: "LaNita Begola" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fluff: Mid Mich Burgers We used to fly into Frankenmuth. If you call the Bavarian Inn or Zendner s(spelling) they will pick you up and take you back when you are ready to return. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: Malcolmbru@aol.com Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fluff: Mid Mich Burgers Dalton has a place called Gabby's on the field. Houghton lake (DNR) by the state police post has a nice restaurant with in walking distance, on the water. Owoso has a hotel and strip bar you can taxi up to, nice for a over ni ght. malcolm AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:33:34 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: New and seeking info !! From: "Keithc" Thanks guys I have serial # C9604-0154, can anyone tell me what this means. Also can anyone tell me what I can do to the airframe to take advantage of the series 5 wing strength/capacity. I am pre-cover and have a great source for any welding mods that I could benefit from. Thanks Keith Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129909#129909 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.