---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 08/21/07: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:18 AM - Droop Tips (jmcmanus) 2. 05:21 AM - Re: ALERT! ANYONE FLYING AEROCET 1100 FLOATS!! (Paul Seehafer) 3. 06:12 AM - Subaru oil loss (fox5flyer) 4. 06:36 AM - S5 Sticky fuel valve (fox5flyer) 5. 06:52 AM - Re: ALERT! ANYONE FLYING AEROCET 1100 FLOATS!! (Noel Loveys) 6. 07:36 AM - Re: S5 Sticky fuel valve (Rick) 7. 10:08 AM - Magnetic Compass (George Wells) 8. 10:41 AM - Re: Magnetic Compass (Guy Buchanan) 9. 12:04 PM - Re: Magnetic Compass (Rick) 10. 12:51 PM - Re: Magnetic Compass (steve eccles) 11. 01:20 PM - Re: Magnetic Compass (michael paton) 12. 02:20 PM - Re: Magnetic Compass (Rick) 13. 06:53 PM - Re: Magnetic Compass (Herbert R Gottelt) 14. 08:44 PM - Re: Magnetic Compass (Randy Daughenbaugh) 15. 10:39 PM - Re: Subaru oil loss (debrun26@juno.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:47 AM PST US From: "jmcmanus" Subject: Kitfox-List: Droop Tips Well, the Kitfox List comes through again ! A month ago I asked if anyone had some fairly obscure droop tips for somewhat dated Mod III or IV, to sell. Thanks to the generosity of Clem Wehner, I'm now holding a beautiful, free ! pair in my lap. And if Clem builds anything like he packages parts up for shipping - well, his machine must be a beauty. Strong, durable & a work of art, to boot. Jim McManus Whitehorse, Yukon ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:56 AM PST US From: "Paul Seehafer" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: ALERT! ANYONE FLYING AEROCET 1100 FLOATS!! Noel, Glad to hear you've done yours. I will sleep better at night now... Paul Seehafer (do not archive) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel Loveys" Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 5:37 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: ALERT! ANYONE FLYING AEROCET 1100 FLOATS!! > > What I was looking for was the width of the gauge at the bottom of pg 7-34 > Par 7-148 the chart doesn't give the size of the opening for the terminal > gauge .... Paul was able to find a reference to .340in.. I just finished > re-crimping or swaging with a calibrated crimper so now all my crimps are > within .001 in. of the .340. If it was my own tool I would have > calibrated > it for a couple of thousandths tighter. > > Noel > > All that is left is to square the wings with the floats and lockwire the > turnbuckles. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >> John W. Hart >> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:47 PM >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: ALERT! ANYONE FLYING AEROCET 1100 FLOATS!! >> >> >> >> >> AC 43.13-1B, Chapter 7, Paragraph 7-148 has the info on cable >> swaging. It's >> available online at: >> > http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/ > 99c827db9baac81b86256b4500596c4e/$FILE/Chapter%2007.pdf >> >> Just scroll on down to the appropriate paragraph to read it. >> >> John Hart >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul >> Seehafer >> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:02 AM >> To: seaplane-list@matronics.com; kitfox-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Kitfox-List: ALERT! ANYONE FLYING AEROCET 1100 FLOATS!! >> >> >> >> From: "Noel Loveys" >> >> Paul do you know what the size of the properly crimped >> fitting is? I don't >> have a terminal (go-no go) gauge but I do have several sets of Vernier >> calipers. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:51 AM PST US From: "fox5flyer" Subject: Kitfox-List: Subaru oil loss There's another thing I thought of. Since everyone builds their KF differently, it occurred to me that perhaps your vent hose is terminating in a low pressure area and the oil is being "sucked" out? Something to look at. As for lowering the tank, I'd give that considerable thought because during the development process the position of the tank was thought out and placed in the optimum position through trial and error. Lowering it may possibly cause other problems. Have a real good look inside that tank to see if anything has bee modified from original. If it has, you should be able to see it. Deke Morisse Mikado Michigan S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT "If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed." Mark Twain From: debrun26@juno.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Subaru oil loss Thanks Deke~ I'll give it a try... Replace oil, remove tank and insect, etc.... I'm going right now to make a seperator to take care of the messy problem under the plane. I'm thinking of removing the remote tank and mounting it lower so I can then put a verticle extention on the breather. what do you think? Layne ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:13 AM PST US From: "fox5flyer" Subject: Kitfox-List: S5 Sticky fuel valve MessageFound it. http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=view&epoch=1011 579067As you look at the valve in the picture, is it in the "on" or "off" position? Do you have any idea what the part number was? For all you folks who are fairly new to this list (last couple years) there's a lot of good information in the Sportflight web site hosted by Don Pearsall. A good archive of photos. http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=main Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 7:18 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: S5 Sticky fuel valve It is the one hosted by the list. Use to be sportflight not sure how to get to the new site. Someone can help I am sure. I would like to see what's been going on myself. Hey not to worry been called worse. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 4:44 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: S5 Sticky fuel valve Thanks Rick. Sorry for calling you Steve. What photo section are you referring to? Deke do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: S5 Sticky fuel valve Look at the photo section. You may be able to tell the model. I don't remember, it has been a while. I know it was in line no 90s to plumb , just some adaptors and different length tube. Not sure of the valve orientation but it had a nice detent lock for open and closed. Rick 8/19/2007 7:27 AM href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com by AVG Release Date: 8/19/2007 7:27 AM 8/19/2007 7:27 AM ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:38 AM PST US From: "Noel Loveys" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: ALERT! ANYONE FLYING AEROCET 1100 FLOATS!! I'm just on my way out the door to make the final adjustments to level the wings again. Noel BTW here is a guy on the avid list who is looking for some data for the W&B of his avid Mk IV. You wouldn't know the location of the Datum or the CG range? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > Paul Seehafer > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:51 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: ALERT! ANYONE FLYING AEROCET 1100 FLOATS!! > > > > Noel, > > Glad to hear you've done yours. I will sleep better at night now... > > Paul Seehafer > > (do not archive) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Noel Loveys" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 5:37 PM > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: ALERT! ANYONE FLYING AEROCET 1100 FLOATS!! > > > > > > > What I was looking for was the width of the gauge at the > bottom of pg 7-34 > > Par 7-148 the chart doesn't give the size of the opening > for the terminal > > gauge .... Paul was able to find a reference to .340in.. > I just finished > > re-crimping or swaging with a calibrated crimper so now all > my crimps are > > within .001 in. of the .340. If it was my own tool I would have > > calibrated > > it for a couple of thousandths tighter. > > > > Noel > > > > All that is left is to square the wings with the floats and > lockwire the > > turnbuckles. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > >> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > >> John W. Hart > >> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:47 PM > >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: ALERT! ANYONE FLYING AEROCET > 1100 FLOATS!! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> AC 43.13-1B, Chapter 7, Paragraph 7-148 has the info on cable > >> swaging. It's > >> available online at: > >> > > > http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryC > ircular.nsf/0/ > > 99c827db9baac81b86256b4500596c4e/$FILE/Chapter%2007.pdf > >> > >> Just scroll on down to the appropriate paragraph to read it. > >> > >> John Hart > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > >> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul > >> Seehafer > >> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:02 AM > >> To: seaplane-list@matronics.com; kitfox-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: Kitfox-List: ALERT! ANYONE FLYING AEROCET 1100 FLOATS!! > >> > >> > > >> > >> From: "Noel Loveys" > >> > >> Paul do you know what the size of the properly crimped > >> fitting is? I don't > >> have a terminal (go-no go) gauge but I do have several > sets of Vernier > >> calipers. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:54 AM PST US From: "Rick" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: S5 Sticky fuel valve That is in the on position. If you look over to the right , hard to se, is the off words and an arrow pointing to off. Also note the aluminum fuel line visible through the flaperon control slot. Goes straight back from the fuel valve and the angles over to the side for clearance. So no 90s. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:32 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: S5 Sticky fuel valve Found it. HYPERLINK "http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=view&epoch=101157 9067"http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=view&epoch=10 11579067As you look at the valve in the picture, is it in the "on" or "off" position? Do you have any idea what the part number was? For all you folks who are fairly new to this list (last couple years) there's a lot of good information in the Sportflight web site hosted by Don Pearsall. A good archive of photos. HYPERLINK "http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=main"http://www.s portflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=main Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:wingsdown@verizon.net"Rick "mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com"kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 7:18 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: S5 Sticky fuel valve It is the one hosted by the list. Use to be sportflight not sure how to get to the new site. Someone can help I am sure. I would like to see what's been going on myself. Hey not to worry been called worse. Rick -----Original Message----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com"owner-kitfox-list-server@ matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 4:44 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: S5 Sticky fuel valve Thanks Rick. Sorry for calling you Steve. What photo section are you referring to? Deke do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:wingsdown@verizon.net"Rick "mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com"kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: S5 Sticky fuel valve Look at the photo section. You may be able to tell the model. I don't remember, it has been a while. I know it was in line no 90s to plumb , just some adaptors and different length tube. Not sure of the valve orientation but it had a nice detent lock for open and closed. Rick 8/19/2007 7:27 AM href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronh ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronh ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com by AVG Release Date: 8/19/2007 7:27 AM 8/19/2007 7:27 AM href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronh ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List"http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?Kitfox-List "http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com 8/20/2007 5:44 PM 8/20/2007 5:44 PM ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:08:30 AM PST US From: "George Wells" Subject: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass I have a Standard Airpath Pedestal Mount compass mounted in the center front edge of my Model 5 dash and it is nonfunctional due to a magnetic field interference. It works fine when away from that position. This is the second one I have had since the one in the plane when I got it was the same way and I thought it was defective. We went to a fly in this past saturday and I talked with 2 people who have the same problem in a Model 4 and 5. One used a pedestal compass and the other had a Vertical Card Compass. Anyway -- Has anyone found a way to damppen or get rid of thes magnetic interference ? Thanks ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:19 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass At 10:05 AM 8/21/2007, you wrote: >Anyway -- Has anyone found a way to damppen or get rid of thes >magnetic interference ? Hi George, Check the archives, this has been covered before. I had the same problem and it was caused by residual welding fields in the tube frame, particularly the two upper panel mount tubes. I originally had to rent the big degausser from Sacramento Sky Ranch and degauss the entire area. I was able to eliminate enough interference to correct the remainder with the compass correctors. Sometime later I accidently did a bit of welding, shorting the battery, which renewed the interference. This I was able to eliminate using a little hand degausser I bought off the web. (Apparently this second time I only magnetized the surface of the tubes. When I tried the hand degausser before it hadn't helped at all.) There's a little round, fairly inexpensive, gauss meter you can buy to check the magnetization of your structure. I recommend it. The only problem with the big degausser is that you need to keep your avionics/electronics at least 12" away from it when it's running. Otherwise you'll modify them. For more info see: http://www.sacskyranch.com/degaussi.htm Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:34 PM PST US From: "Rick" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass Yes Garmin 395. :) Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:41 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass At 10:05 AM 8/21/2007, you wrote: Anyway -- Has anyone found a way to damppen or get rid of thes magnetic interference ? Hi George, Check the archives, this has been covered before. I had the same problem and it was caused by residual welding fields in the tube frame, particularly the two upper panel mount tubes. I originally had to rent the big degausser from Sacramento Sky Ranch and degauss the entire area. I was able to eliminate enough interference to correct the remainder with the compass correctors. Sometime later I accidently did a bit of welding, shorting the battery, which renewed the interference. This I was able to eliminate using a little hand degausser I bought off the web. (Apparently this second time I only magnetized the surface of the tubes. When I tried the hand degausser before it hadn't helped at all.) There's a little round, fairly inexpensive, gauss meter you can buy to check the magnetization of your structure. I recommend it. The only problem with the big degausser is that you need to keep your avionics/electronics at least 12" away from it when it's running. Otherwise you'll modify them. For more info see: HYPERLINK "http://www.sacskyranch.com/degaussi.htm"http://www.sacskyranch.com/dega ussi.htm Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List"http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?Kitfox-List "http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com 8/20/2007 5:44 PM 8/20/2007 5:44 PM ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:51:45 PM PST US From: "steve eccles" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass Don't know if anyone figured it out but I also have the compass problem in my model 5 Steve From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Wells Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:06 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass I have a Standard Airpath Pedestal Mount compass mounted in the center front edge of my Model 5 dash and it is nonfunctional due to a magnetic field interference. It works fine when away from that position. This is the second one I have had since the one in the plane when I got it was the same way and I thought it was defective. We went to a fly in this past saturday and I talked with 2 people who have the same problem in a Model 4 and 5. One used a pedestal compass and the other had a Vertical Card Compass. Anyway -- Has anyone found a way to damppen or get rid of thes magnetic interference ? Thanks ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:20:37 PM PST US From: michael paton Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass I got to add my name to this list of non functioning compasses , model 5, Michael paton Zambia 9J-FOX 912 100Hp steve eccles wrote: Dont know if anyone figured it out but I also have the compass problem in my model 5 Steve From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Wells Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:06 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass I have a Standard Airpath Pedestal Mount compass mounted in the center front edge of my Model 5 dash and it is nonfunctional due to a magnetic field interference. It works fine when away from that position. This is the second one I have had since the one in the plane when I got it was the same way and I thought it was defective. We went to a fly in this past saturday and I talked with 2 people who have the same problem in a Model 4 and 5. One used a pedestal compass and the other had a Vertical Card Compass. Anyway -- Has anyone found a way to damppen or get rid of thes magnetic interference ? Thanks http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List http://forums.matronics.com --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:20:04 PM PST US From: "Rick" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass Seriously. I tried verticals, ball, correction balls, remote mount magnets. The only thing accurate and consistent was the GPS. I know the system can go down, but I figured it had more pluses than minuses. I kept the wet compass just for looks. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of michael paton Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass I got to add my name to this list of non functioning compasses , model 5, Michael paton Zambia 9J-FOX 912 100Hp steve eccles wrote: Don=92t know if anyone figured it out but I also have the compass problem in my model 5 Steve From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Wells Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:06 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass I have a Standard Airpath Pedestal Mount compass mounted in the center front edge of my Model 5 dash and it is nonfunctional due to a magnetic field interference. It works fine when away from that position. This is the second one I have had since the one in the plane when I got it was the same way and I thought it was defective. We went to a fly in this past saturday and I talked with 2 people who have the same problem in a Model 4 and 5. One used a pedestal compass and the other had a Vertical Card Compass. Anyway -- Has anyone found a way to damppen or get rid of thes magnetic interference ? Thanks "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List"http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?Kitfox-List "http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com 8/20/2007 5:44 PM 8/20/2007 5:44 PM ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:53:01 PM PST US From: Herbert R Gottelt Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass I mounted my vertical compass in front of and in the middle of my dash. It has been working great since '97,and I never had to touch my adjustment screws. It should be at least 4" away from radio and steel tubing. I checked for magnetic interference with a gauss meter and found this place free of any interference. Herb Gottelt M4-1200,912UL George Wells wrote: I have a Standard Airpath Pedestal Mount compass mounted in the center front edge of my Model 5 dash and it is nonfunctional due to a magnetic field interference. It works fine when away from that position. This is the second one I have had since the one in the plane when I got it was the same way and I thought it was defective. We went to a fly in this past saturday and I talked with 2 people who have the same problem in a Model 4 and 5. One used a pedestal compass and the other had a Vertical Card Compass. Anyway -- Has anyone found a way to damppen or get rid of thes magnetic interference ? Thanks ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:53 PM PST US From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass I am with you Rick. I carry a small cheap handheld GPS for back up and try to keep reading sectionals in case the whole GPS satellite network goes down. Randy . _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 3:19 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass Seriously. I tried verticals, ball, correction balls, remote mount magnets. The only thing accurate and consistent was the GPS. I know the system can go down, but I figured it had more pluses than minuses. I kept the wet compass just for looks. Rick -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of michael paton Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass I got to add my name to this list of non functioning compasses , model 5, Michael paton Zambia 9J-FOX 912 100Hp steve eccles wrote: Don't know if anyone figured it out but I also have the compass problem in my model 5 Steve From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Wells Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:06 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass I have a Standard Airpath Pedestal Mount compass mounted in the center front edge of my Model 5 dash and it is nonfunctional due to a magnetic field interference. It works fine when away from that position. This is the second one I have had since the one in the plane when I got it was the same way and I thought it was defective. We went to a fly in this past saturday and I talked with 2 people who have the same problem in a Model 4 and 5. One used a pedestal compass and the other had a Vertical Card Compass. Anyway -- Has anyone found a way to damppen or get rid of thes magnetic interference ? Thanks href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref "http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com Checked by AVG Release Date: 8/20/2007 5:44 PM 8/20/2007 5:44 PM ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:39:34 PM PST US From: "debrun26@juno.com" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Subaru oil loss Thanks again Deke~ I went to the plane last night to try to start worki ng on lowering the tank, making a seperator, and changing out the pvc va lve. Found the tank couldn't be lowered w/o welding new connect points on it... so I don't need to worry about residual ramifications. Still t rying to figure out the seperator proect. I hand cranked the prop to se e if the cilinders stoll had close to the same pressure and found that 2 of them were significantly weaker than the others. This is a new devel opement and may explain the recent dramatic increase in oil loss through the breather. Now i need to figure out if it's due to cillinders or va lves. That's a lot for a black thumb non-mechanic. I've found an auto sooby mechanic that will work on it just in case. I hope it will be OK for him to do the work instead of an A/P mechanic. Haven't found one of them that know a thing about Subaru engines. My breather line extends below the fusalage a good 10 inches, so I wouldn't think that would be a low pressure area. Layne ________________________________________________________________________ Send your friends personalized video messages! 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