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1. 04:29 AM - Subaru oil loss (fox5flyer)
2. 04:51 AM - S5 Sticky fuel valve (fox5flyer)
3. 06:32 AM - Tech assistance, Low Fuel light (MA Stanard)
4. 06:35 AM - Magnetic Compass (Peter Graichen)
5. 07:20 AM - Re: Magnetic Compass (n85ae)
6. 07:59 AM - Re: Re: Magnetic Compass (Rueb, Duane)
7. 08:32 AM - Re: Tech assistance, Low Fuel light (kitfoxmike)
8. 08:56 AM - Re: Magnetic Compass (Noel Loveys)
9. 08:56 AM - Re: Magnetic Compass (Noel Loveys)
10. 08:57 AM - Re: Magnetic Compass (Noel Loveys)
11. 08:58 AM - Re: Tech assistance, Low Fuel light (Guy Buchanan)
12. 09:01 AM - Re: Tech assistance, Low Fuel light (Noel Loveys)
13. 09:08 AM - Re: S5 Sticky fuel valve (Lynn Matteson)
14. 09:14 AM - Re: Tech assistance, Low Fuel light (Dave G.)
15. 09:19 AM - Re: Tech assistance, Low Fuel light (Marco Menezes)
16. 09:23 AM - Re: Tech assistance, Low Fuel light (Clint Bazzill)
17. 09:30 AM - Re: S5 Sticky fuel valve (Guy Buchanan)
18. 10:23 AM - Installing Full lotus Floats on the KF (akflyer)
19. 10:39 AM - Re: Magnetic Compass (akflyer)
20. 10:54 AM - Re: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH! (Lynn Matteson)
21. 11:16 AM - Homebuilders, how do you cope? (Dave G.)
22. 11:20 AM - Re: Magnetic CompassMagnetic CompassMagnetic Compass (George Wells)
23. 11:24 AM - Re: Magnetic Compass (davyken@comcast.net)
24. 11:28 AM - Re: Kit fox-List: Homebuilders, how do you cope? (steve eccles)
25. 11:32 AM - Jury strut problems. (Dave G.)
26. 12:02 PM - Re: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH! (Michel Verheughe)
27. 01:01 PM - Re: Re: S5 Sticky fuel valve (fox5flyer)
28. 01:22 PM - orings for starter mounting (akflyer)
29. 03:00 PM - Re: Homebuilders, how do you cope? (Guy Buchanan)
30. 03:00 PM - Re: orings for starter mounting (Guy Buchanan)
31. 03:00 PM - Re: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH! (Guy Buchanan)
32. 03:01 PM - Re: 582 engine adjustments (akflyer)
33. 03:36 PM - Re: Homebuilders, how do you cope? (Noel Loveys)
34. 04:32 PM - Re: Tech assistance, Low Fuel light (Todd Leiss)
35. 04:43 PM - Re: 582 engine adjustments (john beirne)
36. 05:25 PM - Re: orings for starter mounting (Noel Loveys)
37. 05:50 PM - Re: Homebuilders, how do you cope? (Dave G.)
38. 06:13 PM - Re: Homebuilders, how do you cope? (Steve Shinabery)
39. 06:55 PM - Re: degausser (Tim Vader)
40. 07:14 PM - Re: 582 engine adjustments (Jeffrey Dill)
41. 07:20 PM - Re: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH! (kirk hull)
42. 07:32 PM - Re: Homebuilders, how do you cope? (kentk)
43. 07:59 PM - older egt sending Y or K wire? (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
44. 08:00 PM - Homebuilders, Here's how to cope! (Rexster)
45. 08:14 PM - Re: Homebuilders, Here's how to cope! (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
46. 08:23 PM - Re: 582 engine adjustments (akflyer)
47. 08:29 PM - Re: orings for starter mounting (akflyer)
48. 08:42 PM - Re: Re: S5 Sticky fuel valve (JJProbasco@cs.com)
49. 09:39 PM - Re: Homebuilders, how do you cope? (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
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First, you can not use an aircraft differential compression tester on
the NSI engine because of the freewheeling clutch. So, at any auto
parts store you can buy an inexpensive compression tester that screws
into a spark plug hole. About $30 will get a decent one. Just remove
all of your spark plugs and screw the tester into a spark plug hole.
Make a drawing of the layout so you can keep track of the readings of
each cylinder. With the ignition "off" and throttle all the way to the
firewall, to get the highest reading crank the engine over for about 20
seconds while watching the gauge then write it down on your diagram.
Continue this for the other three then get back to us with your
readings. There is a way you can differentiate between the valves and
rings, but I don't have time to go into that yet. This is all pretty
basic stuff so any of your friends who have mechanical knowledge should
be able to help you with the check. WATCH OUT FOR THAT PROP.
Also, if you find that pcv valve you spoke of, let me know where it is
so I can take a look at mine. :-) Just kidding. There is no pcv valve
on your engine, or shouldn't be anyway.
Also, that breather line extending below the fuselage may be putting it
in a low pressure area. I would cut it off so that it is up inside the
cowling, but below the engine line.
I assume you bought this engine "used"?
Others who can add insight to this, feel free to jump in.
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT
"If you don't read the newspaper you are
uninformed, if you do read
the newspaper you are misinformed."
Mark Twain
----- Original Message -----
From: debrun26@juno.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Subaru oil loss
Thanks again Deke~ I went to the plane last night to try to start
working on lowering the tank, making a seperator, and changing out the
pvc valve. Found the tank couldn't be lowered w/o welding new connect
points on it... so I don't need to worry about residual ramifications.
Still trying to figure out the seperator proect. I hand cranked the
prop to see if the cilinders stoll had close to the same pressure and
found that 2 of them were significantly weaker than the others. This is
a new developement and may explain the recent dramatic increase in oil
loss through the breather. Now i need to figure out if it's due to
cillinders or valves. That's a lot for a black thumb non-mechanic.
I've found an auto sooby mechanic that will work on it just in case. I
hope it will be OK for him to do the work instead of an A/P mechanic.
Haven't found one of them that know a thing about Subaru engines. My
breather line extends below the fusalage a good 10 inches, so I wouldn't
think that would be a low pressure area. Layne
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| Subject: | S5 Sticky fuel valve |
MessageThis appears to be an older version that what Andair illustrates
on their web site, but obviously it is what I'm looking for. On their
web site, the best I can see is that when in the on position, the handle
points perpendicular to the flow which is not what I want. While at
Oshkosh, they said they didn't produce one where the indicator point
faced the direction of flow on the straight through model. When I told
him that I thought it was standard for the handle to follow the
direction of flow he acted like he didn't know what to say. So, I said
"thanks" and moved on.
C'mon guys, what are you using out there? What is being supplied with
the kits now, or is it something that has to be procured on your own?
Deke Morisse
Mikado Michigan
S5/Subaru/CAP 355+ TT
"If you don't read the newspaper you are
uninformed, if you do read
the newspaper you are misinformed."
Mark Twain
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: S5 Sticky fuel valve
That is in the on position. If you look over to the right , hard to
se, is the off words and an arrow pointing to off. Also note the
aluminum fuel line visible through the flaperon control slot. Goes
straight back from the fuel valve and the angles over to the side for
clearance. So no 90s.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:32 AM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: S5 Sticky fuel valve
Found it.
http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=view&epoch=1011
579067As you look at the valve in the picture, is it in the "on" or
"off" position? Do you have any idea what the part number was?
For all you folks who are fairly new to this list (last couple
years) there's a lot of good information in the Sportflight web site
hosted by Don Pearsall. A good archive of photos.
http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=main
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 7:18 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: S5 Sticky fuel valve
It is the one hosted by the list. Use to be sportflight not sure
how to get to the new site. Someone can help I am sure. I would like to
see what's been going on myself. Hey not to worry been called worse.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fox5flyer
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 4:44 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: S5 Sticky fuel valve
Thanks Rick. Sorry for calling you Steve. What photo section
are you referring to?
Deke
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: S5 Sticky fuel valve
Look at the photo section. You may be able to tell the model.
I don't remember, it has been a while. I know it was in line no 90s
to plumb , just some adaptors and different length tube. Not sure of the
valve orientation but it had a nice detent lock for open and closed.
Rick
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| Subject: | Tech assistance, Low Fuel light |
Hello All,
Im in need of some technical assistance.
My low fuel light is staying on with plenty of fuel in the header tank.
Any ideas of how to get it off?
Thanks,
Michael
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| Subject: | Magnetic Compass |
Gentlemen:
Please don't write off the magnetic compass problem too easily, by replacing
it with a GPS. The Magnetic Compass is a REQUIRED instrument in every
airplane together with a properly filled out compass calibration card. I
admit it is not the easiest thing to do; however it is not impossible. I
have a full stack of radios and yet my S.I.R.S.
Navigator (ASS), monted in the center top of my dash is calibrated within
2-3 degrees all the way around, using a set of calibrating balls. I
understand that a couple of small pieces of magnetic refrigerator gasket,
placed strategically around the compass, work just as well. Obviously it is
a very tedious and time consuming job (couple of days), but believe me, it
can be done.
Peter Graichen
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| Subject: | Re: Magnetic Compass |
I have a SIRS in the same place, and it works. I think it's simply a better
compass than the others. I did not degauss either.
Jeff Hays.
Series 5, IO240B
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| Subject: | Re: Magnetic Compass |
Jeff:
Do you love your IO240B4B as much as I do mine?
Duane Rueb, K5 Safari
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of n85ae
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:20 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Magnetic Compass
I have a SIRS in the same place, and it works. I think it's simply a
better
compass than the others. I did not degauss either.
Jeff Hays.
Series 5, IO240B
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| Subject: | Re: Tech assistance, Low Fuel light |
I had problems with mine and the steps I took to correct were to: take any filters
out of the system from tank to header. Remove the hose coming from the tanks
and blow air in reverse to clear the screen in the tank. Replace the gaskets
on the caps with the ones for the mercedees. Mine work great now.
--------
kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
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| Subject: | Magnetic Compass |
I'm in 100% agreement with you Peter. Although he only time it should
take
more than an hour or two to swing a compass is if you have Electro
Magnetic
Interference (EMI) or for some reason can't use a compass rose. For the
grass field guys you can lay out a compass rose using nails in the turf
with
a bit of fluorescent tope tied to the ends. I think you can easily go
over
board with compass swings as there are a lot of factors which contribute
to
good readings. Parallax and where the centre of the plane is are just
two
that come to mind.
I have a little problem with my plane. It is on floats and that adds to
the
complexity of turning the plane to the correct headings with the engine
running. I could do a swing while it is on the trailer but that will
introduce a slight error. It was suggested to me that I set my GPS to
read
magnetic and on a calm day use it to get my headings and set the compass
with the aeroplane underway. We have plenty of water around here and
where
ever you have plenty of water you will also have plenty of boats and
other
things you really wouldn't want to hit because you were fiddling with a
compass. My only answer is someday to get someone who is qualified to
slow
taxi the plane ( that should take 5 min) to steer/drive the headings
while I
adjust the compass.
It is out a couple of degrees right now but as long as I know which
quadrant
North is I'll be OK. One of the advantages of living on an island.
Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern
Campbellton, Newfoundland,
Canada
Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA
Aerocet 1100s
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Peter Graichen
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:06 AM
> To: Kitfox List
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass
>
>
>
> Gentlemen:
>
> Please don't write off the magnetic compass problem too
> easily, by replacing
> it with a GPS. The Magnetic Compass is a REQUIRED instrument in every
> airplane together with a properly filled out compass
> calibration card. I
> admit it is not the easiest thing to do; however it is not
> impossible. I
> have a full stack of radios and yet my S.I.R.S.
> Navigator (ASS), monted in the center top of my dash is
> calibrated within
> 2-3 degrees all the way around, using a set of calibrating balls. I
> understand that a couple of small pieces of magnetic
> refrigerator gasket,
> placed strategically around the compass, work just as well.
> Obviously it is
> a very tedious and time consuming job (couple of days), but
> believe me, it
> can be done.
> Peter Graichen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Magnetic Compass |
did you try moving the compass to another location? Possibly above the
windshield? You may have to install an aluminium support for it up
there
but it should be more or less free to work properly in that location.
Noel.
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:49 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass
Seriously. I tried verticals, ball, correction balls, remote mount
magnets.
The only thing accurate and consistent was the GPS. I know the system
can
go down, but I figured it had more pluses than minuses. I kept the wet
compass just for looks.
Rick
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of michael
paton
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass
I got to add my name to this list of non functioning compasses , model
5,
Michael paton
Zambia
9J-FOX
912 100Hp
steve eccles <eccles@Chartermi.net> wrote:
Don't know if anyone figured it out but I also have the compass problem
in
my model 5
Steve
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George
Wells
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:06 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass
I have a Standard Airpath Pedestal Mount compass mounted in the center
front
edge of my Model 5 dash and it is nonfunctional due to a magnetic field
interference. It works fine when away from that position. This is the
second
one I have had since the one in the plane when I got it was the same way
and
I thought it was defective.
We went to a fly in this past saturday and I talked with 2 people who
have
the same problem in
a Model 4 and 5.
One used a pedestal compass and the other had a Vertical Card Compass.
Anyway -- Has anyone found a way to damppen or get rid of thes
magnetic
interference ?
Thanks
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| Subject: | Magnetic Compass |
did you try moving the compass to another location? Possibly above the
windshield? You may have to install an aluminium support for it up
there
but it should be more or less free to work properly in that location.
Noel.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:49 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass
Seriously. I tried verticals, ball, correction balls, remote mount
magnets.
The only thing accurate and consistent was the GPS. I know the system
can
go down, but I figured it had more pluses than minuses. I kept the wet
compass just for looks.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of michael
paton
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass
I got to add my name to this list of non functioning compasses , model
5,
Michael paton
Zambia
9J-FOX
912 100Hp
steve eccles <eccles@Chartermi.net> wrote:
Don't know if anyone figured it out but I also have the compass problem
in
my model 5
Steve
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George
Wells
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:06 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass
I have a Standard Airpath Pedestal Mount compass mounted in the center
front
edge of my Model 5 dash and it is nonfunctional due to a magnetic field
interference. It works fine when away from that position. This is the
second
one I have had since the one in the plane when I got it was the same way
and
I thought it was defective.
We went to a fly in this past saturday and I talked with 2 people who
have
the same problem in
a Model 4 and 5.
One used a pedestal compass and the other had a Vertical Card Compass.
Anyway -- Has anyone found a way to damppen or get rid of thes
magnetic
interference ?
Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Tech assistance, Low Fuel light |
At 06:31 AM 8/22/2007, you wrote:
>My low fuel light is staying on with plenty of fuel in the header tank.
>
>Any ideas of how to get it off?
There are certainly several possibilities: 1) It's stuck. 2) It's
broken. 3) The fuel level's low. Don't discount this last. My header
tank will run the top 1/2" dry upon re-fill until the turbulence
works all the air out. I find it's also easy to get sealant on it
during installation. Finally, if it's a float sensor, and the sensor
falls off, (breaks,) the light will illuminate. Unfortunately you'll
have to pull it and take a look.\
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Tech assistance, Low Fuel light |
It all depends on how the switch is wired. A lot are wired hot (B+) to
the
light and then the switch in the header tank only provides a ground when
the
fuel goes low. If this is how your light is wired then you probably
have a
short circuit (to ground) somewhere between the light itself and the
switch.
Favoured places are in block connectors where a wire can come part way
out
and short off either the frame of neighbouring wires.
Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern
Campbellton, Newfoundland,
Canada
Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA
Aerocet 1100s
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MA Stanard
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:02 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tech assistance, Low Fuel light
Hello All,
Im in need of some technical assistance.
My low fuel light is staying on with plenty of fuel in the header tank.
Any ideas of how to get it off?
Thanks,
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: S5 Sticky fuel valve |
Deke-
I'm using three "Brass mini ball valves" (as described in my Grainger
Catalog)...one for each tank, and one for the main fuel line. I first
saw these on Bill Willyard's Rotax-powered 'fox, and "stole" the
idea. When the handle is in line with the flow, the valve is open. I
used the 1/4" size. The cost is less than $5 each.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/369+ hrs
On Aug 22, 2007, at 8:48 AM, fox5flyer wrote:
> This appears to be an older version that what Andair illustrates on
> their web site, but obviously it is what I'm looking for. On their
> web site, the best I can see is that when in the on position, the
> handle points perpendicular to the flow which is not what I want.
> While at Oshkosh, they said they didn't produce one where the
> indicator point faced the direction of flow on the straight through
> model. When I told him that I thought it was standard for the
> handle to follow the direction of flow he acted like he didn't know
> what to say. So, I said "thanks" and moved on.
> C'mon guys, what are you using out there? What is being supplied
> with the kits now, or is it something that has to be procured on
> your own?
>
> Deke Morisse
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| Subject: | Re: Tech assistance, Low Fuel light |
Add fuel is the normal way!!
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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----- Original Message -----
From: MA Stanard
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:31 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tech assistance, Low Fuel light
Hello All,
Im in need of some technical assistance.
My low fuel light is staying on with plenty of fuel in the header
tank.
Any ideas of how to get it off?
Thanks,
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: Tech assistance, Low Fuel light |
What kind of low fuel sensor do you have MIchael? Mechanical (float-type) or optical?
Marco Menezes
Kitfox II 582-90 N99KX
MA Stanard <cgod@cebridge.net> wrote:
Hello All,
Im in need of some technical assistance.
My low fuel light is staying on with plenty of fuel in the header tank.
Any ideas of how to get it off?
Thanks,
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: Tech assistance, Low Fuel light |
What kind of low fuel warning do you have? Is it the float type or light
sensor type?
From: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tech assistance, Low Fuel light
Add fuel is the normal way!!
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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----- Original Message -----
From: MA Stanard
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:31 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tech assistance, Low Fuel light
Hello All,
Im in need of some technical assistance.
My low fuel light is staying on with plenty of fuel in the header tank.
Any ideas of how to get it off?
Thanks,
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: S5 Sticky fuel valve |
> C'mon guys, what are you using out there? What is being supplied with the kits
now, or is it something that has to be procured on your own?
Sorry Deke. I've been using the old Imperial 104-HD for the last year without problems.
Don't know why. Maybe it's because I use 100LL.
Guy
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K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Installing Full lotus Floats on the KF |
Well after I flew my brothers kitfox on the Northaire fiberglass clones it was
decided that they has scaled them down too much and they were not of sufficient
displacement to fly safely.... this was determined both scientificaly through
3D modeling and number crunching and by the good ole load her up and see what
she does method.. We topped off the tanks and both got in, I powered up and
as the tail of the floats left the beach the right float promptly sank. This
is not a good feeling but luckily the lake was still real shallow and we did
a real quick 180 to the right and pulled back to shore.. I kicked him out as it
was just too nice of a day to not fly. I got in another 7.5 hrs of flight time
that day while he stayed behind (twice as I had to come back and re-fuel)
and mowed the area around the float plane parking.
The next day I pulled the plane out of the water and yanked his floats off and
rigged my set of full lotus 1260's to his plane. The original skystar mounts
were 10" to far back on the floats and the rear mount was 1" to long. I moved
the mounts forward but did not shorten the rear leg till after my first test
flight. I have now flown it at gross and I think I can move the floats back another
3"-4" and I wont have to force the nose over at gross. If anyone is having
trouble getting on step at gross weight, then the cure is to move the step
further back. Full Lotus recomends the step be 4-8" behind the CG. I put the
step 2" behind the aft CG location and I think the factory knows best.. I will
move them back one mounting hole and drill yet another set of front holes.
I hate putting all the holes in the tubes, but once I find what works best,
I can get new aluminum tubes and drill those once.
As far as flying..solo and full fuel she is almost instantly on step and pops off
the water in 5-6 seconds at 35-40 and climbs out quite nice 700-800 fpm. Full
fuel and dual (at ahemmmm... gross) it takes about a 12-15 seconds. She plows
a bit and you have to force the nose over with full down, but once on top
of the water at about 15 mph she accelerates very quick to 40. you can either
them pop the flaperons on to break water or roll one float out then lift off.
I perfer to roll a float so I can keep a hand on the throttle just for grins
and giggles.
The cruise speed went up 4-5 MPH with the full lotus over the northaire floats
and the climb out is about 250 fpm better. For the places I go, you just can't
beat the full lotus floats. I landed in a popular place for the Beaver and
Otter drivers and chatted with a Otter driver buddy who was there waiting on the
clients to get their limit of fish. He had heard me talking about all the
things I can do witht the full lotus floats so he asked for a demonstration.
I ran around on the grass and tundra and then took off from the grass. Another
pilot flew over and asked him how long it took the guy that landed long to get
unstuck.. he replied that the tracks were not from someone who landed long
and Missed the lake, but were done on purpose to demonstrate the floats.. the
other pilot was blown away that a guy on floats would intentionaly go out in the
grass. My brother also learned float flying 101 that day.. cell phone goes
in a zippered pocket or the fishes will be taking all your calls from now on..
Attached are a few pics of a flight around Cook Inlet and Tuxidney Bay as well
as one of us tied up at John Stoners dock. As you can see he has the original
skystar rigging and placement. We are trying to talk him into moving the floats
so he can get off the water at gross weight.
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Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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| Subject: | Re: Magnetic Compass |
I have used a hand held AC mag yoke for doing several airframes. I just go over
the tubes with the gauss meter to determine the areas with a magnetic field,
then de-magnitize the area. To de-mag the area, you start out with the mag yoke
on the tube powered up, and leaving the power on you slowly pull the yoke
off the tubes with a twisting motion and leave the power on till you are a good
12" away from the tubes. I have never spend more than an hour on an airframe
to de-mag the cockpit area. You can order a cheap gauss meter from harbor freight
or many other online stores. A quick google search should have one at
your door in no time.
As was mentioned above, pull your radios and compass out before you start playing
with the mag yoke.
I am at work for 2 weeks, but would be more than happy to send you my mag yoke
and gauss meter if you cant find one localy when I get back home.
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Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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| Subject: | Re: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH! |
I just got back to dealing with my email, and the 200+ messages. Is
there another Lynn with a "broken" Kitfox? Who is Lynn Farnsworth? Is
he the yellow 'fox with the broken prop? Good to see that he got it
going again. I'm still downloading the video called "Emergency
Aircraft Repair" and it's taking FOREVER on this dial-up line.
If you're referring to me, Guy, I had the battery die on my plane
while lining up for the "Homebuilder's Review". I had them tow it
over to Emergency Aircraft Repair so I could charge the battery. It
started just fine later that evening.
What happened was that during the looooooooong taxi down to the
threshold of 36, I had to taxi slowly behind other planes, and my
engine loaded up, and I couldn't very well clean it out without
revving it up and taking a chance on gobbling up somebody's rudder in
front of me. Then when I went to shut it down, I usually shut off the
main fuel valve and let the engine run for a few minutes to lower the
amount of fuel in the bowl. Then during a restart, the engine will
start immediately. If I miss doing this (and I did), I have to treat
it like a flooded car engine, and hold full open throttle 'til it
starts...about 10-15 seconds. When it didn't start right away, I went
to "choke mode" and this only worsened the problem, then the battery
began to get low, and finally gave up the ghost. I had left the
master on the night before, charging my cell phone, and this took a
little bit out of the battery, but it started fine just before
heading for the Homebuilder's Review. It was just all that taxiing,
loading up of the engine, and neglecting my normal shutdown/starting
procedures that caused that embarrassing scene in front of the
"amassed thousands" who had all come to see the #3 fly....yeah,
RIGHT!! : )
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/369+ hrs
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On Aug 15, 2007, at 12:48 AM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
>
> At 01:37 PM 8/14/2007, you wrote:
>> Check out EAA's web videos to see a couple of our very own making
>> the spotlight.....well, sort of. I'm sure not in a way they would
>> like to be known for, but attention just the same.
>
> Hey that's our own Lynn Farnsworth! He's a star! (I wonder what was
> wrong with the Jab?) (Man that guy gets around. Last I saw him he
> was at Lowell's in Cameron Park, CA.)
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> San Diego, CA
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Homebuilders, how do you cope? |
I live in a middle class subdivision. House on house and no privacy to
speak of. I absolutely have to take the plane out into the driveway to
work on it with the wings on. Yesterday I had a little girl stand at the
end of my driveway screaming "It's an airplane! " at the top of her
lungs over and over again. Today I had an endless parade of men in trade
trucks who should be working stop by to offer opinions etc. and a man
who does not live in my neighbourhood going around the block several
times and staring. I felt like I was being "cased" for a theft. Creepy.
Finally I just gave up, too angry and frustrated to continue in my role
as "circus performer" for the world. I'll continue my project when I can
get hangar space. I know a lot of you are stuck in the same position,
how do you cope! I'm pretty sure screaming "F*** OFF" won't help.
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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| Subject: | Re: Magnetic CompassMagnetic CompassMagnetic Compass |
Thanks Rick and others. I guess I will give up and just use my 296 !!
George
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A long time ago I found directions on the list to build my own degausser. It wasn't
hard and worked pretty good. I mounted a rheostat on a board with a large
light bulb. From that I ran a long wire that I could wrap around the part
with a magnetic field. Run the rheostat down to zero, the light bulb goes out
and the magnetic field is gone.
I'll attach a photo. It's a little dark but the wire is wrapped around the axle.
I did this because I found that after cutting my axle in half, there was a large
enough magnetic field that I could pick up one half of the axle with the other.
I used this method to remove the field from these parts and form all of the
tubing around the cabin.
Hope this helps,
Ken Davy
N1701S
Classic IV 912
From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass
At 10:05 AM 8/21/2007, you wrote:
>Anyway -- Has anyone found a way to damppen or get rid of thes
>magnetic interference ?
Hi George,
Check the archives, this has been covered before. I had the same problem and it
was caused by residual welding fields in the tube frame, particularly the two
upper panel mount tubes. I originally had to rent the big degausser from Sacramento
Sky Ranch and degauss the entire area. I was able to eliminate enough interference
to correct the remainder with the compass correctors. Sometime later
I accidently did a bit of welding, shorting the battery, which renewed the
interference. This I was able to eliminate using a little hand degausser I bought
off the web. (Apparently this second time I only magnetized the surface of
the tubes. When I tried the hand degausser before it hadn't helped at all.) There's
a little round, fairly inexpensive, gauss meter you can buy to check the
magnetization of your structure. I recommend it. The only problem with the
big degausser is that you need to keep your avionics/electronics at least 12"
away from it when it's running. Otherwise you'll modi
fy the
m.
<html><body>
<DIV>A long time ago I found directions on the list to build my own degausser.
It wasn't hard and worked pretty good. I mounted a rheostat on a board
with a large light bulb. From that I ran a long wire that I could wrap
around the part with a magnetic field. Run the rheostat down to zero,
the light bulb goes out and the magnetic field is gone.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'll attach a photo. It's a little dark but the wire is wrapped around
the axle.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I did this because I found that after cutting my axle in half, there was a
large enough magnetic field that I could pick up one half of the axle with the
other. I used this method to remove the field from these parts and form
all of the tubing around the cabin.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hope this helps,</DIV>
<DIV>Ken Davy</DIV>
<DIV>N1701S</DIV>
<DIV>Classic IV 912</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<P>Time: 10:41:19 AM PST US</P>
<P>From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com></P>
<P>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass</P>
<P>At 10:05 AM 8/21/2007, you wrote:</P>
<P>>Anyway -- Has anyone found a way to damppen or get rid of thes</P>
<P>>magnetic interference ?</P>
<P>Hi George,</P>
<P>Check the archives, this has been covered before. I had the same problem and
it was caused by residual welding fields in the tube frame, particularly the
two upper panel mount tubes. I originally had to rent the big degausser from Sacramento
Sky Ranch and degauss the entire area. I was able to eliminate enough
interference to correct the remainder with the compass correctors. Sometime
later I accidently did a bit of welding, shorting the battery, which renewed the
interference. This I was able to eliminate using a little hand degausser I
bought off the web. (Apparently this second time I only magnetized the surface
of the tubes. When I tried the hand degausser before it hadn't helped at all.)
There's a little round, fairly inexpensive, gauss meter you can buy to check
the magnetization of your structure. I recommend it. The only problem with
the big degausser is that you need to keep your avionics/electronics at least
12" away from it when it's running. Otherwise you
'll mo
dify them.</P></FONT></DIV></body></html>
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| Subject: | RE: Kit fox-List: Homebuilders, how do you cope? |
Dave
At least you don't have people think you are a nut case ,who would ever
think that you could build an airplane, I got it all the time
Steve
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:16 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Homebuilders, how do you cope?
I live in a middle class subdivision. House on house and no privacy to speak
of. I absolutely have to take the plane out into the driveway to work on it
with the wings on. Yesterday I had a little girl stand at the end of my
driveway screaming "It's an airplane! " at the top of her lungs over and
over again. Today I had an endless parade of men in trade trucks who should
be working stop by to offer opinions etc. and a man who does not live in my
neighbourhood going around the block several times and staring. I felt like
I was being "cased" for a theft. Creepy. Finally I just gave up, too angry
and frustrated to continue in my role as "circus performer" for the world.
I'll continue my project when I can get hangar space. I know a lot of you
are stuck in the same position, how do you cope! I'm pretty sure screaming
"F*** OFF" won't help.
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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| Subject: | Jury strut problems. |
I cannot seem to get the jury struts set up right. I inherited a
position of 52 3/4" on one side and 52.5" on the other for the jury
struts on the front spars. I cannot get this to fit and be vertical with
the new struts. Is there any way out of this? How critical is it? Can I
shorten a jury strut? I've asked John McBean and am waiting an answer
but perhaps some of the builders can help. occom@ns.sympatico.ca
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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| Subject: | Re: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH! |
On Aug 22, 2007, at 7:58 PM, Lynn Matteson wrote:
> Then when I went to shut it down, I usually shut off the main fuel
> valve and let the engine run for a few minutes to lower the amount of
> fuel in the bowl. Then during a restart, the engine will start
> immediately.
That's interesting, Lynn. I also need a few seconds on the starter if I
stop my Jabiru then start it again say, ten minutes later. I thought it
was the opposite happening; the heat of the engine evaporates the fuel
in the carburettor. But your experience is that it is flooding.
I think I will try your method the next time I know I have to start
again a warm engine.
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Re: S5 Sticky fuel valve |
Thanks for the response Guy. Mine was OK for the first year or so also, but
it slowly began to get difficult to turn. Removing it, cleaning and lubing
would solve the problem, but only temporary and now it only works for a few
months. I don't think these valves were designed for gasoline. Probably
fuel oil or something like that.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Buchanan" <bnn@nethere.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:30 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: S5 Sticky fuel valve
>
>
> > C'mon guys, what are you using out there? What is being supplied with
the kits now, or is it something that has to be procured on your own?
>
>
> Sorry Deke. I've been using the old Imperial 104-HD for the last year
without problems. Don't know why. Maybe it's because I use 100LL.
>
> Guy
>
> --------
> Guy Buchanan
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=130266#130266
>
>
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| Subject: | orings for starter mounting |
Guys,
I needed to replace the orings on my starter for the 582 and a call to CPS gave
me a bit of a jolt.. I was quoted $68.60 for the orings.. As they are metric,
I could not find any localy. I did a bit of searching around and found a manufacture
that would sell direct to me if I ordered in quantity. The end result
if I break it down is $3.00 for the orings needed per installation plus about
4.55 shipping if you want them priority mail or the cost of a stamp to just
drop them to you in an envelope. If anyone needs the orings replaced and does
not want to pay the cost of two fill ups to do it, drop me a note as I have
lots of them on the way. These are Buna-n orings and are the exact size that
rotax calls for.
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Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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| Subject: | Re: Homebuilders, how do you cope? |
At 11:15 AM 8/22/2007, you wrote:
>I'll continue my project when I can get hangar space.
DON'T DO IT! Better to scream "F*** OFF".
>I know a lot of you are stuck in the same position, how do you cope!
>I'm pretty sure screaming "F*** OFF" won't help.
Help whom?
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: orings for starter mounting |
At 01:21 PM 8/22/2007, you wrote:
>If anyone needs the orings replaced and does not want to pay the
>cost of two fill ups to do it, drop me a note as I have lots of them
>on the way. These are Buna-n orings and are the exact size that
>rotax calls for.
Hi Leonard,
I loved your pictures. I'll get mine on the water someday.
Regarding your O-rings, did you try McMaster? (www.mcmaster.com) You
have to buy a box of 100, but that's only about $10, (plus shipping,)
less than the two fill-ups you intimated.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH! |
At 10:58 AM 8/22/2007, you wrote:
>If you're referring to me, Guy, I had the battery die on my plane
>while lining up for the "Homebuilder's Review". I had them tow it
>over to Emergency Aircraft Repair so I could charge the battery. It
>started just fine later that evening.
LOL! Man I could screw up a wet dream! Sorry Lynn. I thought of you
and another name popped out. I'm glad to hear it was no big deal. It
was a nice video, though.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: 582 engine adjustments |
a 2 stroke engine will "4 cycle" if the mixture is way rich! that is the only
way a 2 stroke will "4 cycle".
Having too much pitch will also put a heavy load on your engine and will indeed
cause it to run hotter. nIf you are using the stock RPM gauge they are known
to be out of calibration something fierce. Most seem to like the tiny tach and
it seems to hold calibration just fine and matches very close to the optical
tach.
Is there anyone around your area that is familiar with 2 strokes that can help
tune it?
--------
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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| Subject: | Homebuilders, how do you cope? |
See if any of your neighbours will rent you their garage
Noel
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:46 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Homebuilders, how do you cope?
I live in a middle class subdivision. House on house and no privacy to
speak
of. I absolutely have to take the plane out into the driveway to work on
it
with the wings on. Yesterday I had a little girl stand at the end of my
driveway screaming "It's an airplane! " at the top of her lungs over and
over again. Today I had an endless parade of men in trade trucks who
should
be working stop by to offer opinions etc. and a man who does not live in
my
neighbourhood going around the block several times and staring. I felt
like
I was being "cased" for a theft. Creepy. Finally I just gave up, too
angry
and frustrated to continue in my role as "circus performer" for the
world.
I'll continue my project when I can get hangar space. I know a lot of
you
are stuck in the same position, how do you cope! I'm pretty sure
screaming
"F*** OFF" won't help.
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
do not archive
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| Subject: | Tech assistance, Low Fuel light |
When I put mine in, I thought it was in correctly. In fact I had mounted it upside
down. I still am shaking my head about that one....
Todd Leiss
Model IV Speedster - 912UL
----- Original Message -----
From: MA Stanard
Sent: 8/22/2007 9:37:57 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Tech assistance, Low Fuel light
Hello All,
Im in need of some technical assistance.
My low fuel light is staying on with plenty of fuel in the header tank.
Any ideas of how to get it off?
Thanks,
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: 582 engine adjustments |
Recently had a similar problem with a rough running engine below 4000rpm and in
order to adjust the carbs I removed the propeller, and ran the engine safely,
taking care not to bring the revs up high with no prop loading
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| Subject: | orings for starter mounting |
Your Note just got filed in my special flight folder.
Thanks
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of akflyer
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 5:52 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: orings for starter mounting
>
>
>
> Guys,
> I needed to replace the orings on my starter for the 582 and
> a call to CPS gave me a bit of a jolt.. I was quoted $68.60
> for the orings.. As they are metric, I could not find any
> localy. I did a bit of searching around and found a
> manufacture that would sell direct to me if I ordered in
> quantity. The end result if I break it down is $3.00 for the
> orings needed per installation plus about 4.55 shipping if
> you want them priority mail or the cost of a stamp to just
> drop them to you in an envelope. If anyone needs the orings
> replaced and does not want to pay the cost of two fill ups
> to do it, drop me a note as I have lots of them on the way.
> These are Buna-n orings and are the exact size that rotax calls for.
>
> --------
> Leonard Perry
> Soldotna AK
> Avid "C" / Mk IV
> 582 IVO IFA
> Full Lotus 1260
> 95% complete
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| Subject: | Re: Homebuilders, how do you cope? |
MessageWouldn't work Noel. Clearly you've never seen a suburban garage,
They are for storing bicycles the kids no longer ride, toys the kids no
longer play with, old broken appliances, fertiilzer, lawn implemants,
hose and God knows what's behind that layer! I only know one person who
parks a car in one.
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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----- Original Message -----
From: Noel Loveys
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:28 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Homebuilders, how do you cope?
See if any of your neighbours will rent you their garage
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:46 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: Homebuilders, how do you cope?
I live in a middle class subdivision. House on house and no privacy
to speak of. I absolutely have to take the plane out into the driveway
to work on it with the wings on. Yesterday I had a little girl stand at
the end of my driveway screaming "It's an airplane! " at the top of her
lungs over and over again. Today I had an endless parade of men in trade
trucks who should be working stop by to offer opinions etc. and a man
who does not live in my neighbourhood going around the block several
times and staring. I felt like I was being "cased" for a theft. Creepy.
Finally I just gave up, too angry and frustrated to continue in my role
as "circus performer" for the world. I'll continue my project when I can
get hangar space. I know a lot of you are stuck in the same position,
how do you cope! I'm pretty sure screaming "F*** OFF" won't help.
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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| Subject: | Re: Homebuilders, how do you cope? |
I belive it is time for you to have a hanger.I love my hanger.I can go
out to the airport and relax,and do what I like to do.work on my kit
fox.in peace.no body bothers me.just the guys that some time hang out
there at the airport.and some times they will help out when I need it
the most.My second home.some times my first home.the only place to have
your plane in its own hanger. Steve Shinabery N554KF KF2
Dave G. wrote:
> Wouldn't work Noel. Clearly you've never seen a suburban garage, They
> are for storing bicycles the kids no longer ride, toys the kids no
> longer play with, old broken appliances, fertiilzer, lawn implemants,
> hose and God knows what's behind that layer! I only know one person
> who parks a car in one.
>
> Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Noel Loveys <mailto:noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
> *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com <mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:28 PM
> *Subject:* RE: Kitfox-List: Homebuilders, how do you cope?
>
> See if any of your neighbours will rent you their garage
>
> Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:46 PM
> *To:* kitfox-list@matronics.com <mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Kitfox-List: Homebuilders, how do you cope?
>
> I live in a middle class subdivision. House on house and no
> privacy to speak of. I absolutely have to take the plane out
> into the driveway to work on it with the wings on. Yesterday I
> had a little girl stand at the end of my driveway screaming
> "It's an airplane! " at the top of her lungs over and over
> again. Today I had an endless parade of men in trade trucks
> who should be working stop by to offer opinions etc. and a man
> who does not live in my neighbourhood going around the block
> several times and staring. I felt like I was being "cased" for
> a theft. Creepy. Finally I just gave up, too angry and
> frustrated to continue in my role as "circus performer" for
> the world. I'll continue my project when I can get hangar
> space. I know a lot of you are stuck in the same position, how
> do you cope! I'm pretty sure screaming "F*** OFF" won't help.
>
>
> Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
> do not archive
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Ken
Looks like a great setup. I researched the archives but couldn't
find anything on construction or use so I have a few questions. How
long do you keep the current flowing at high power before you slowly
reduce to nothing? Do you think this unit can be used on the instrument
panel support tubes with instruments in the panel (ammeter, voltmeter,
tach, egt etc.) without damaging them?
Tim Vader
Calgary, Alberta
Classic IV
EA81
Repairing
----- Original Message -----
From: davyken@comcast.net
To: Kitfox
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:23 PM
A long time ago I found directions on the list to build my own
degausser. It wasn't hard and worked pretty good. I mounted a rheostat
on a board with a large light bulb. From that I ran a long wire that I
could wrap around the part with a magnetic field. Run the rheostat down
to zero, the light bulb goes out and the magnetic field is gone.
I'll attach a photo. It's a little dark but the wire is wrapped
around the axle.
I did this because I found that after cutting my axle in half, there
was a large enough magnetic field that I could pick up one half of the
axle with the other. I used this method to remove the field from these
parts and form all of the tubing around the cabin.
Hope this helps,
Ken Davy
N1701S
Classic IV 912
Time: 10:41:19 AM PST US
From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Magnetic Compass
At 10:05 AM 8/21/2007, you wrote:
>Anyway -- Has anyone found a way to damppen or get rid of thes
>magnetic interference ?
Hi George,
Check the archives, this has been covered before. I had the same
problem and it was caused by residual welding fields in the tube frame,
particularly the two upper panel mount tubes. I originally had to rent
the big degausser from Sacramento Sky Ranch and degauss the entire area.
I was able to eliminate enough interference to correct the remainder
with the compass correctors. Sometime later I accidently did a bit of
welding, shorting the battery, which renewed the interference. This I
was able to eliminate using a little hand degausser I bought off the
web. (Apparently this second time I only magnetized the surface of the
tubes. When I tried the hand degausser before it hadn't helped at all.)
There's a little round, fairly inexpensive, gauss meter you can buy to
check the magnetization of your structure. I recommend it. The only
problem with the big degausser is that you need to keep your
avionics/electronics at least 12" away from it when it's running.
Otherwise you 'll mo dify them.
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| Subject: | Re: 582 engine adjustments |
Good stuff. I will consider running it without the prop to adjust the air screw
by ear without getting sliced and diced. This guy who has looked at it once claims
to be experienced with two cycles. He is an aircfraft owner and pilot but
his experience has been on motorcycles and such. We ran the engine after moving
the needle valve from the third notch to the second. After running the engine
like that and looking at the spark plugs, he felt it was running too hot,
and we put it back to the third notch. I flew it today after setting the pitch
for 6200RPM static. I saw about 1050 on the EGT, which I hear is about right.
I would say it ran cooler with the lower pitch, but the OAT was much cooler,
and I still saw 180 deg F a time or two. The cloud above me sprinkled a bit on
my windshield. Naturally I thought I had sprung a leak and high-tailed it home.
It is still four cycling at the lower RPMs. We had messed with the air screw
before, but after reading those aforementioned web pages, I reset them to one
turn out. I think it is worse now. Are they still affecting the mixture in the
4000-5000 RPM range? I have to get above 5000 to guarantee no skipping. Thanks
for your insights. I attached a picture for grins.
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Jeff Dill
Model 2, 767JD
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| Subject: | Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH! |
I flew in to Brodhead and then on to OSH the next day stayed the week and
made it home to Kansas City with no problems other then weather. 205AK (red
classic 4 with a Subaru) performed flawlessly.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Broken Kitfoxes everywhere at OSH!
I just got back to dealing with my email, and the 200+ messages. Is
there another Lynn with a "broken" Kitfox? Who is Lynn Farnsworth? Is
he the yellow 'fox with the broken prop? Good to see that he got it
going again. I'm still downloading the video called "Emergency
Aircraft Repair" and it's taking FOREVER on this dial-up line.
If you're referring to me, Guy, I had the battery die on my plane
while lining up for the "Homebuilder's Review". I had them tow it
over to Emergency Aircraft Repair so I could charge the battery. It
started just fine later that evening.
What happened was that during the looooooooong taxi down to the
threshold of 36, I had to taxi slowly behind other planes, and my
engine loaded up, and I couldn't very well clean it out without
revving it up and taking a chance on gobbling up somebody's rudder in
front of me. Then when I went to shut it down, I usually shut off the
main fuel valve and let the engine run for a few minutes to lower the
amount of fuel in the bowl. Then during a restart, the engine will
start immediately. If I miss doing this (and I did), I have to treat
it like a flooded car engine, and hold full open throttle 'til it
starts...about 10-15 seconds. When it didn't start right away, I went
to "choke mode" and this only worsened the problem, then the battery
began to get low, and finally gave up the ghost. I had left the
master on the night before, charging my cell phone, and this took a
little bit out of the battery, but it started fine just before
heading for the Homebuilder's Review. It was just all that taxiing,
loading up of the engine, and neglecting my normal shutdown/starting
procedures that caused that embarrassing scene in front of the
"amassed thousands" who had all come to see the #3 fly....yeah,
RIGHT!! : )
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/369+ hrs
do not archive
On Aug 15, 2007, at 12:48 AM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
>
> At 01:37 PM 8/14/2007, you wrote:
>> Check out EAA's web videos to see a couple of our very own making
>> the spotlight.....well, sort of. I'm sure not in a way they would
>> like to be known for, but attention just the same.
>
> Hey that's our own Lynn Farnsworth! He's a star! (I wonder what was
> wrong with the Jab?) (Man that guy gets around. Last I saw him he
> was at Lowell's in Cameron Park, CA.)
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> San Diego, CA
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Homebuilders, how do you cope? |
I have the same arrangement and cope just fine (although I must admit that my plane
doesn't draw that much attention). My neighbors (and their kids) all know
what I am building and they pretty much take it in stride. One neighbor thought
I was building a helicopter (only saw the fuelage).
I enjoy the opportunity to show them that there are still people out there that
dream about flying and are actually doing something about it (not just dreaming
about it). I have only had one stranger stop and ask questions, and once I
let a neighbor kid sit in the seat and play with the controls (stress testing,
hehe).
I guess it all depends on your personality, temperment and outlook on the building
process. Maybe you could throw a tarp over it when you have to roll it out
of the garage???
--------
Kent Knudsen
College Station, TX
K-IV 1200 / no engine / 25% done
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| Subject: | older egt sending Y or K wire? |
I think I may have a older set of egt sender wires with a new gage? my plugs
look very dark with a lot of carbine building up in the manifold but I
often hold egt's above 1200 and cruse at 5300 rpm with 1150egt my egt gage
requires the newer wire. how can I tell which wire I have?
malcolm michigan
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| Subject: | Homebuilders, Here's how to cope! |
Hey there Fellow Foxers,
I think Kent's right. It's all how you look at it. I always enjoyed the
visits by curious neighbors and their friends. My UPS driver stopped one
day and asked what all these deliveries were for. When I told him I was
building an airplane, he asked to come see it. From then on, he would a
sk about it with each stop and often take a new look. Eventually, he sta
rted stopping even without parts to deliver! One day, I rented a Cheroke
e and took him, his wife and son for a ride. He was hooked. Lessons star
ted within a couple weeks and he's now a pilot! After awhile, he left hi
s job at UPS to start his own very successful landscaping business. Unfo
rtunately, he very seldom has time to fly. He's built a house an hour no
rth of here and never ended up flying in the Kitfox, yet!
I got off the subject there, but my message is that you can either look
at visitors as a distraction, or as an opportunity for sharing the love
of aviation. Like most things in life, it's not the things that happen i
n your life that determine your happiness, but rather your outlook and a
ttitude toward those happenings.
Rex in Michigan / Model 3 / 912UL / Warp / 620 hours of fun so far!
Do not archive
-- "kentk" <kentk25@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have the same arrangement and cope just fine (although I must admit th
at my plane doesn't draw that much attention). My neighbors (and their
kids) all know what I am building and they pretty much take it in stride
. One neighbor thought I was building a helicopter (only saw the fuelag
e).
I enjoy the opportunity to show them that there are still people out the
re that dream about flying and are actually doing something about it (no
t just dreaming about it). I have only had one stranger stop and ask qu
estions, and once I let a neighbor kid sit in the seat and play with the
controls (stress testing, hehe).
I guess it all depends on your personality, temperment and outlook on th
e building process. Maybe you could throw a tarp over it when you have
to roll it out of the garage???
--------
Kent Knudsen
College Station, TX
K-IV 1200 / no engine / 25% done
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| Subject: | Re: Homebuilders, Here's how to cope! |
I am already getting the getters about not having enough to do this winter.
last winter I finished a set of floats and am considering building another
set when I haven't even mounted the set I have.
I just ran into a old friend that has finished a Murphy Rebel(a old stile
by wing )it took him 8 years and we all know how discouraged he got from time
to time. just hang in there mal michigan
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| Subject: | Re: 582 engine adjustments |
great looking bird! The midrange is what seems to be off. What jets are you running?
and when you look at the jet chart, are you looking at the one with our
without the air intake silencer. I have seen this happen...and the wrong jets
were installed. Of course, since this is a midrange problem, you could go
for the in-flight mixture adjustment and your problem should dissapear, as well
as being able to richen up a tad on decent to keep the EGT's under control.
Did you verify the idle RPM with the optical tach?
4-5 thousand is the midrange needle to the main jet area
--------
Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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| Subject: | Re: orings for starter mounting |
The place I ordered from had a per item minimum also... but it worked out to peanuts
each till I tossed in the shipping from them lol..as you need 5 different
sizes it was lots of minimums..
[/quote]
Hi Leonard,
I loved your pictures. I'll get mine on the water someday.
Regarding your O-rings, did you try McMaster? (www.mcmaster.com) You
have to buy a box of 100, but that's only about $10, (plus shipping,)
less than the two fill-ups you intimated.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.[/quote]
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Leonard Perry
Soldotna AK
Avid "C" / Mk IV
582 IVO IFA
Full Lotus 1260
95% complete
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| Subject: | Re: S5 Sticky fuel valve |
While at the big box home centers, I have often looked at the small brass
ball valves that have teflon seals and are rated for air/gas/oil and thought they
would be good for the KitFox fuel plumbing. But I haven't come up with a
convenient and reliable way to stabilize the valve body against the handle
twisting force. I don't think this force should be applied to the attached fuel
lines. What amounting arrangement has proven successful for others?
Jeff Probasco
Model 5
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| Subject: | Homebuilders, how do you cope? |
Probably most of them wish they were you and had an airplane to work on.
Try to look on the bright side, (and look for land in the country) If you
were washing the mini-van you wouldn't be somebody!! Hope that helps, Jim
Chuk Avid MK IV/Jabiru 2200 (first flight with that engine before the
weekend, I hope)
>From: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Homebuilders, how do you cope? Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007
>15:15:40 -0300
>
>I live in a middle class subdivision. House on house and no privacy to
>speak of. I absolutely have to take the plane out into the driveway to work
>on it with the wings on. Yesterday I had a little girl stand at the end of
>my driveway screaming "It's an airplane! " at the top of her lungs over and
>over again. Today I had an endless parade of men in trade trucks who should
>be working stop by to offer opinions etc. and a man who does not live in my
>neighbourhood going around the block several times and staring. I felt like
>I was being "cased" for a theft. Creepy. Finally I just gave up, too angry
>and frustrated to continue in my role as "circus performer" for the world.
>I'll continue my project when I can get hangar space. I know a lot of you
>are stuck in the same position, how do you cope! I'm pretty sure screaming
>"F*** OFF" won't help.
>
>
>Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
>do not archive
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