Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Wed 08/29/07


Total Messages Posted: 26



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     1. 03:04 AM - Re: 582 engine adjustments (Jeffrey Dill)
     2. 04:51 AM - Re: 582 engine adjustments (Jeffrey Dill)
     3. 06:01 AM - Re : Leading Edge Spar Retaining Pin (Jacques Voynaud)
     4. 06:42 AM - Re: Re : Leading Edge Spar Retaining Pin (John W. Hart)
     5. 08:19 AM - Re: 582 engine adjustments (akflyer)
     6. 11:00 AM - South East Kitfox Owners (wingnut)
     7. 11:15 AM - Re: Re : Leading Edge Spar Retaining Pin (Marco Menezes)
     8. 11:32 AM - Re: 582 engine adjustments (Jeffrey Dill)
     9. 12:03 PM - Re: South East Kitfox Owners (RAY Gignac)
    10. 12:31 PM - Re: Re: 582 engine adjustments (James Shumaker)
    11. 12:48 PM - Re: South East Kitfox Owners (wingnut)
    12. 01:06 PM - Re: 582 engine adjustments (Jeffrey Dill)
    13. 01:16 PM - pitot dimensions and alternate location (Dave G.)
    14. 01:49 PM - Re: South East Kitfox Owners (Sbennett3@aol.com)
    15. 02:36 PM - Re: Re : Leading Edge Spar Retaining Pin (Guy Buchanan)
    16. 03:29 PM - Re: Re: 582 engine adjustments (Bill Malpass)
    17. 04:58 PM - Re: Re: 582 engine adjustments (Steve Shinabery)
    18. 06:04 PM - Primer Fuel Lines / Model II (rudderdancer)
    19. 06:47 PM - Re: South East Kitfox Owners (dcsfoto)
    20. 07:21 PM - Re: South East Kitfox Owners (wingnut)
    21. 07:27 PM - Re: Prelim Crash Info (kirk hull)
    22. 07:55 PM - Re: pitot dimensions and alternate location (Zimmermans)
    23. 08:14 PM - Re: Re: 582 engine adjustments (Marco Menezes)
    24. 08:19 PM - flyin (john oakley)
    25. 08:20 PM - Re: Primer Fuel Lines / Model II (Marco Menezes)
    26. 08:23 PM - Re: Primer Fuel Lines / Model II (john oakley)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:04:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 582 engine adjustments
    From: "Jeffrey Dill" <1dillfamily@comcast.net>
    Am looking at CPS now. Their price for the idler jet is considerably better. 19.95. -------- Jeff Dill Model 2, 767JD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131509#131509


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    Time: 04:51:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 582 engine adjustments
    From: "Jeffrey Dill" <1dillfamily@comcast.net>
    Ok, I feel stupid again. I figured that before I ordered different idler jets, I had better check to make sure South Mississippi hooked me up with stock jets. I tried removing what I thought was the idler jet and found a needle valve. It turns out that I have been adjusting the "air screw" when I thought it was the idler jet. Now I am looking for the idler jet, which is not jumping out at me on the various schematics. Example: http://www.ultralightnews.ca/bing/bingservice.html The picture of the idler jet looks distinctly different from the air screw, so it cannot be a case of two names for one thing. -------- Jeff Dill Model 2, 767JD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131517#131517


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    Time: 06:01:16 AM PST US
    From: "Jacques Voynaud" <jacques.voynaud@cegepat.qc.ca>
    Subject: Re : Leading Edge Spar Retaining Pin
    I bought the plane with drilled bolts and nyloc nuts plus safety pins inst ead of the clevis pins=2E I hope this is not wrong=2E Jacques Voynaud Conseiller en formation Cegep de l'Abitibi-T=E9miscamingue Centre de Ville-Marie (819)629-3211 jacques=2Evoynaud@cegepat=2Eqc=2Eca


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    Time: 06:42:29 AM PST US
    From: "John W. Hart" <akanka@kiamichiwb.org>
    Subject: Re : Leading Edge Spar Retaining Pin
    It's OK, as far as I know. There's not any difference in the metallurgy of AN clevis pins and and AN bolts. The only thing I have concerns about is that if the bolts are frequently removed and re-installed, the threads of the bolt threads may remove metal from the spar holes and/or the inside if the tubes welded to the carry through structure, similar to the results of a round file. That could result in elongated holes. If the bolts are not removed very often, only minimal scraping of the threads against the holes should not cause a great concern, in my opinion. Canada may have different requirements than the US. I am not familiar with Canada's aviation maintenance regulations and procedures. John Hart Kitfox Model IV Mechanic - Airframe and Poweplant -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jacques Voynaud Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 8:00 AM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Re : Leading Edge Spar Retaining Pin I bought the plane with drilled bolts and nyloc nuts plus safety pins instead of the clevis pins. I hope this is not wrong. Jacques Voynaud Conseiller en formation Cegep de l'Abitibi-Tmiscamingue Centre de Ville-Marie (819)629-3211 jacques.voynaud@cegepat.qc.ca


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    Time: 08:19:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 582 engine adjustments
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    to get to the idle jet, or any jet for that matter, you have to pull the float bowl. The idle jet is #14 on the diagram, and the mixture screw you have been turning is #28. this is the diagram at the bottom of the page on the link you just posted. -------- Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131573#131573


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    Time: 11:00:52 AM PST US
    Subject: South East Kitfox Owners
    From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
    I was wondering how many Kitfox owners there are in the South East and if there's any interest in some kind of gathering. I live near Greenville, SC. I'm a fairly new pilot myself and I have to say that I'm a little disapointed to discover how few poeple there are in the sport. My home airport (34A) is a ghost town. The hangars are full but there's are no airplanes in the tie down area. If there's ever more than one airplane on the ramp, the locals crack jokes and call it a "fly in". And yes, I do like a little cheese with my whine. -------- Luis Rodriguez Model IV 1200 Rotax 912UL Flying Weekly Laurens, SC (34A) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131597#131597


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    Time: 11:15:31 AM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Re : Leading Edge Spar Retaining Pin
    Jaques, Those will work very well if you don't plan on opening and re-folding your wings frequently. If you do, use the clevis pins. They'll go in and out much faster. Those of us who trailer our Kitfoxes to the airport place a premium upon quick set-up and takedown so that we can get on with the flying. Jacques Voynaud <jacques.voynaud@cegepat.qc.ca> wrote: P { MARGIN-TOP: 0pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt } LI { MARGIN-TOP: 0pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt } I bought the plane with drilled bolts and nyloc nuts plus safety pins instead of the clevis pins. I hope this is not wrong. Jacques Voynaud Conseiller en formation Cegep de l'Abitibi-Tmiscamingue Centre de Ville-Marie (819)629-3211 jacques.voynaud@cegepat.qc.ca Marco Menezes Model 2 582 N99KX --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.


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    Time: 11:32:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 582 engine adjustments
    From: "Jeffrey Dill" <1dillfamily@comcast.net>
    Ok, I get it. Right now I have reached equilibrium again. I am resolved that I need a leaner idle jet. My only consternation is about which one to get, #45 or 50? I might sleep on it. I flew today. Connecticut has this thing about letting people pull airplanes on trailers on a state airport. Until I fought it with the help of AOPA, they wouldn't let you do it unless you paid for a tie down. Now, they need proof of insurance and registration to protect themselves in case I hit something. If I only paid for a tie-down, they wouldn't care if I was insured. Anyway, I got through and had fun. Tried to see how short of a takeoff I could accomplish. I lined up at the edge of a runway stripe and tried to get off before the beginning of the next stripe, which I did, but kind of sideways to the left, just on the brink of flight, my left tire was the last to leave the ground. Then I decided to test this thing about dimished aileron with full flaps. My handle does not have a stop on it, so on downwind I pulled the handle all the way up. Diminished my butt!, The stick came to attention and would not move left or right! I knew that wouldn't do, so I decided to select a compromise postion that combined the most flap with the minimum aileron I thought I might need. The winds were light. So, I came down final fine, did my roundout and set up for the touchdown. I must have done one of those drop-in touchdowns that lowers your tail and sends you right back up again, it all happened fast. All I know is that my left wing was up and I wanted it down, then the airplane said, no-sir, you denied me that aileron, remember? Power, lots of it. Pucker power! I had a blast. -------- Jeff Dill Model 2, 767JD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131609#131609


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    Time: 12:03:15 PM PST US
    From: "RAY Gignac" <kitfoxpilot@msn.com>
    Subject: South East Kitfox Owners
    I fly my Kitfox IV out of WOO/Freeway Airport in Mitchellville Md. Lets meet up and do some Kitfox-in. Ray >From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kitfox-List: South East Kitfox Owners >Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:00:17 -0700 > > >I was wondering how many Kitfox owners there are in the South East and if >there's any interest in some kind of gathering. I live near Greenville, SC. > >I'm a fairly new pilot myself and I have to say that I'm a little >disapointed to discover how few poeple there are in the sport. My home >airport (34A) is a ghost town. The hangars are full but there's are no >airplanes in the tie down area. If there's ever more than one airplane on >the ramp, the locals crack jokes and call it a "fly in". > >And yes, I do like a little cheese with my whine. > >-------- >Luis Rodriguez >Model IV 1200 >Rotax 912UL >Flying Weekly >Laurens, SC (34A) > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131597#131597 > > _________________________________________________________________ Now you can see troublebefore he arrives http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_protection_0507


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    Time: 12:31:34 PM PST US
    From: James Shumaker <jimshumaker@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: 582 engine adjustments
    Jeff=0A=0AGenerally a stop is set to prevent flap deployment beyond the poi nt that the stick is restricted in roll. While on the ground, pull the sti ck to the left limit and then slowly pull the flaps on. When you feel the stick try to straighten up stop there. You have already gone just a touch t oo far. Then pull the stick to the stops in the right. Pull on the flaps again until the stick starts to move and that is again the limit. I just u sed an adel clamp on the center tubing to indicate this limit position.=0A =0AJim Shumaker=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Jeffrey Dill <1 dillfamily@comcast.net>=0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:31:45 AM=0ASubject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 engine adjustme comcast.net>=0A=0AOk, I get it. Right now I have reached equilibrium again. I am resolved that I need a leaner idle jet. My only consternation is abou t which one to get, #45 or 50? I might sleep on it.=0A=0AI flew today. Conn ecticut has this thing about letting people pull airplanes on trailers on a state airport. Until I fought it with the help of AOPA, they wouldn't let you do it unless you paid for a tie down. Now, they need proof of insurance and registration to protect themselves in case I hit something. If I only paid for a tie-down, they wouldn't care if I was insured.=0A=0AAnyway, I go t through and had fun. Tried to see how short of a takeoff I could accompli sh. I lined up at the edge of a runway stripe and tried to get off before t he beginning of the next stripe, which I did, but kind of sideways to the l eft, just on the brink of flight, my left tire was the last to leave the gr ound.=0A=0AThen I decided to test this thing about dimished aileron with fu ll flaps. My handle does not have a stop on it, so on downwind I pulled the handle all the way up. Diminished my butt!, The stick came to attention an d would not move left or right! I knew that wouldn't do, so I decided to s elect a compromise postion that combined the most flap with the minimum ail eron I thought I might need. The winds were light. So, I came down final fi ne, did my roundout and set up for the touchdown. I must have done one of t hose drop-in touchdowns that lowers your tail and sends you right back up a gain, it all happened fast. All I know is that my left wing was up and I wa nted it down, then the airplane said, no-sir, you denied me that aileron, r emember? Power, lots of it. Pucker power! I had a blast.=0A=0A--------=0AJe ff Dill=0AModel 2, 767JD=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Aht tp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131609#131609=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =


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    Time: 12:48:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: South East Kitfox Owners
    From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
    > I fly my Kitfox IV out of WOO/Freeway Airport in Mitchellville Md. Lets meet up and do some Kitfox-in. Great. Now we just need someplace interesting to fly to that's somewhere between us. Looks like the midway point will be somewhere around the NC/VA border. Know anything interesting in that area? -------- Luis Rodriguez Model IV 1200 Rotax 912UL Flying Weekly Laurens, SC (34A) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131621#131621


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    Time: 01:06:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 582 engine adjustments
    From: "Jeffrey Dill" <1dillfamily@comcast.net>
    Thanks. I knew there was guidance suggesting a stop, but never heard such a detailed method of determining where it should go. I have other flap questions, but will start another thread later on due to time constraints. -------- Jeff Dill Model 2, 767JD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131631#131631


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    Time: 01:16:03 PM PST US
    From: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
    Subject: pitot dimensions and alternate location
    I have a mangled pitot and a desire to see it somewhere other than the stock 1991 location. I was eying rib 4 or 5 as an alternate to the specified (in my instructions) rib 7. Has anyone done this? I can't see any problems. I was also thinking of doubling it up and putting a static source along under the pitot tube and epoxying them together. Two 1/16th holes each side of the static should do I would think. I also need the dimensions of the un-mangled pitot if anyone has them .


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    Time: 01:49:01 PM PST US
    From: Sbennett3@aol.com
    Subject: Re: South East Kitfox Owners
    Luis, I live in RDU area and just purchased my Kitfox 912 4-1200 today. The previous owner is taking it to KLBT so I can get some tail wheel training... Then I'll hanger it back at my usual home hanger 1nc1. I have a friend at the same strip thats building one. So ya, we're out here... Steve Bennett Durham NC. http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour


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    Time: 02:36:10 PM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: Re : Leading Edge Spar Retaining Pin
    At 06:00 AM 8/29/2007, you wrote: >I bought the plane with drilled bolts and nyloc nuts plus safety >pins instead of the clevis pins. I hope this is not wrong. I use AN bolts with castle nuts and safety pins because I do not like the possible failure mode of the two spar reinforcements splaying. I like to have the spar captured with something more substantial than a cotter or safety pin. I store folded and fold two or three times every week and have no problem with the threads. (Actually the threads loose in any battle with the aircraft frame.) Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.


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    Time: 03:29:54 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Malpass" <malpass-architect@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: 582 engine adjustments
    FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH I PUT A NUMBER 40 IN MY 582 GREYHEAD, AND IT MADE ALL KINDS OF IMPROVEMENT ON THE IDLE. AT ABOUT 1900, VERY SMOOTH, AND BEFORE THAT IT WOULDNT GO MUCH LESS THAT 2400. I AM IN GEORGIA AND BY LEANING ON HOT DAYS, IT REALLY HELPS. BILL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Dill" <1dillfamily@comcast.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:31 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 engine adjustments > <1dillfamily@comcast.net> > > Ok, I get it. Right now I have reached equilibrium again. I am resolved > that I need a leaner idle jet. My only consternation is about which one to > get, #45 or 50? I might sleep on it. > > I flew today. Connecticut has this thing about letting people pull > airplanes on trailers on a state airport. Until I fought it with the help > of AOPA, they wouldn't let you do it unless you paid for a tie down. Now, > they need proof of insurance and registration to protect themselves in > case I hit something. If I only paid for a tie-down, they wouldn't care if > I was insured. > > Anyway, I got through and had fun. Tried to see how short of a takeoff I > could accomplish. I lined up at the edge of a runway stripe and tried to > get off before the beginning of the next stripe, which I did, but kind of > sideways to the left, just on the brink of flight, my left tire was the > last to leave the ground. > > Then I decided to test this thing about dimished aileron with full flaps. > My handle does not have a stop on it, so on downwind I pulled the handle > all the way up. Diminished my butt!, The stick came to attention and would > not move left or right! I knew that wouldn't do, so I decided to select a > compromise postion that combined the most flap with the minimum aileron I > thought I might need. The winds were light. So, I came down final fine, > did my roundout and set up for the touchdown. I must have done one of > those drop-in touchdowns that lowers your tail and sends you right back up > again, it all happened fast. All I know is that my left wing was up and I > wanted it down, then the airplane said, no-sir, you denied me that > aileron, remember? Power, lots of it. Pucker power! I had a blast. > > -------- > Jeff Dill > Model 2, 767JD > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131609#131609 > > >


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    Time: 04:58:06 PM PST US
    From: Steve Shinabery <shinco@bright.net>
    Subject: Re: 582 engine adjustments
    good day guys.My Kitfox 582 gray head ..runs ruff,and shakes real bad.any RPM under 2000.do I too need to replace my jets to 40s.???any thing above that it runs fine..I have a kitfox 2,with only 160hr TT.built in 1992.N554KF.U think that I too to replace jets??thanks Steve Shinabery Bill Malpass wrote: > <malpass-architect@comcast.net> > > FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH I PUT A NUMBER 40 IN MY 582 GREYHEAD, AND IT MADE > ALL KINDS OF IMPROVEMENT ON THE IDLE. AT ABOUT 1900, VERY SMOOTH, AND > BEFORE THAT IT WOULDNT GO MUCH LESS THAT 2400. > > I AM IN GEORGIA AND BY LEANING ON HOT DAYS, IT REALLY HELPS. > > BILL > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Dill" > <1dillfamily@comcast.net> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:31 PM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 engine adjustments > > >> <1dillfamily@comcast.net> >> >> Ok, I get it. Right now I have reached equilibrium again. I am >> resolved that I need a leaner idle jet. My only consternation is >> about which one to get, #45 or 50? I might sleep on it. >> >> I flew today. Connecticut has this thing about letting people pull >> airplanes on trailers on a state airport. Until I fought it with the >> help of AOPA, they wouldn't let you do it unless you paid for a tie >> down. Now, they need proof of insurance and registration to protect >> themselves in case I hit something. If I only paid for a tie-down, >> they wouldn't care if I was insured. >> >> Anyway, I got through and had fun. Tried to see how short of a >> takeoff I could accomplish. I lined up at the edge of a runway stripe >> and tried to get off before the beginning of the next stripe, which I >> did, but kind of sideways to the left, just on the brink of flight, >> my left tire was the last to leave the ground. >> >> Then I decided to test this thing about dimished aileron with full >> flaps. My handle does not have a stop on it, so on downwind I pulled >> the handle all the way up. Diminished my butt!, The stick came to >> attention and would not move left or right! I knew that wouldn't do, >> so I decided to select a compromise postion that combined the most >> flap with the minimum aileron I thought I might need. The winds were >> light. So, I came down final fine, did my roundout and set up for the >> touchdown. I must have done one of those drop-in touchdowns that >> lowers your tail and sends you right back up again, it all happened >> fast. All I know is that my left wing was up and I wanted it down, >> then the airplane said, no-sir, you denied me that aileron, remember? >> Power, lots of it. Pucker power! I had a blast. >> >> -------- >> Jeff Dill >> Model 2, 767JD >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131609#131609 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 06:04:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Primer Fuel Lines / Model II
    From: "rudderdancer" <jhenryhall@mac.com>
    I have a Model II here in the High Desert of California. It's been on the hot side lately and I discovered fuel dripping from the plane. It was coming from a cracked line connected to the plastic "T" fitting of the primer. Old age and possibly a build up of temperature caused pressure in the fuel system? What would be the best corrective action? I not sure I like such a fragile looking primer arrangement. Thanks. [Question] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131689#131689


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    Time: 06:47:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: South East Kitfox Owners
    From: "dcsfoto" <david@kelm.com>
    I have a model III and almost finished with a Model 7, live in Arkansas we need a midpoint to have a Kitfox flyin David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131699#131699


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    Time: 07:21:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: South East Kitfox Owners
    From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
    How about somewhere on the coast? First Flight Airport at Kitty Hawk seems like a fitting destination. A bit south of that is Ocracoke Island (W95) which is supposed to have the best beach in the US: http://www.drbeach.org/drbeach/best_beach_list.htm -------- Luis Rodriguez Model IV 1200 Rotax 912UL Flying Weekly Laurens, SC (34A) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131711#131711


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    Time: 07:27:08 PM PST US
    From: "kirk hull" <kirkhull@kc.rr.com>
    Subject: Prelim Crash Info
    Looks pretty straight forward. Airplanes don't fly well without fuel. As a safety inspector I can tell you there are two main things that kill pilots. Running out of fuel and flying into weather. the moment you start to wonder it is time to but it on the groung. Does anyone have more on this? IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 1158S Make/Model: EXP Description: KITFOX MODEL 5 Date: 08/27/2007 Time: 0230 Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: Minor Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Minor LOCATION City: GUTHRIE State: OK Country: US DESCRIPTION AIRCRAFT EXPERIENCED FUEL EXHAUSTION, HIT A POWERLINE, AND CRASHED INTO A FIELD, NEAR GUTHRIE, OK INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0 # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 1 Unk: # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: WEATHER: METAR GOK270153 15006KT 9SM CLR 28/12 A2994 OTHER DATA Activity: Pleasure Phase: Unknown Operation: OTHER FAA FSDO: OKLAHOMA CITY, OK (SW15) Entry date: 08/27/2007


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    Time: 07:55:57 PM PST US
    From: "Zimmermans" <jezim@pro-ns.net>
    Subject: Re: pitot dimensions and alternate location
    My series 5 pitot is .250 OD X .177 ID. I ran mine where the plans said except instead of drilling a hole in the spar I ran the tube in grommets thru the ribs. Jim Z Series 5 under const. 0-200 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:15 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: pitot dimensions and alternate location > > I have a mangled pitot and a desire to see it somewhere other than the > stock 1991 location. I was eying rib 4 or 5 as an alternate to the > specified (in my instructions) rib 7. Has anyone done this? I can't see > any problems. I was also thinking of doubling it up and putting a static > source along under the pitot tube and epoxying them together. Two 1/16th > holes each side of the static should do I would think. I also need the > dimensions of the un-mangled pitot if anyone has them . > > > -- > 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM > >


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    Time: 08:14:48 PM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: 582 engine adjustments
    Hi Steve. I think shaking is normal for the 582 at low idle rpms. Mine used to do that too early on. Now I can't seem get the idle speed below 2500. It runs smoothly there but it's a bit too fast for the centrifugal clutch to disengage. I'm going to try going from 45 to 40 with the idle jets before I go filing the carb slides. Steve Shinabery <shinco@bright.net> wrote: good day guys.My Kitfox 582 gray head ..runs ruff,and shakes real bad.any RPM under 2000.do I too need to replace my jets to 40s.???any thing above that it runs fine..I have a kitfox 2,with only 160hr TT.built in 1992.N554KF.U think that I too to replace jets??thanks Steve Shinabery Bill Malpass wrote: > > > FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH I PUT A NUMBER 40 IN MY 582 GREYHEAD, AND IT MADE > ALL KINDS OF IMPROVEMENT ON THE IDLE. AT ABOUT 1900, VERY SMOOTH, AND > BEFORE THAT IT WOULDNT GO MUCH LESS THAT 2400. > > I AM IN GEORGIA AND BY LEANING ON HOT DAYS, IT REALLY HELPS. > > BILL > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Dill" > <1dillfamily@comcast.net> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:31 PM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 engine adjustments > > >> <1dillfamily@comcast.net> >> >> Ok, I get it. Right now I have reached equilibrium again. I am >> resolved that I need a leaner idle jet. My only consternation is >> about which one to get, #45 or 50? I might sleep on it. >> >> I flew today. Connecticut has this thing about letting people pull >> airplanes on trailers on a state airport. Until I fought it with the >> help of AOPA, they wouldn't let you do it unless you paid for a tie >> down. Now, they need proof of insurance and registration to protect >> themselves in case I hit something. If I only paid for a tie-down, >> they wouldn't care if I was insured. >> >> Anyway, I got through and had fun. Tried to see how short of a >> takeoff I could accomplish. I lined up at the edge of a runway stripe >> and tried to get off before the beginning of the next stripe, which I >> did, but kind of sideways to the left, just on the brink of flight, >> my left tire was the last to leave the ground. >> >> Then I decided to test this thing about dimished aileron with full >> flaps. My handle does not have a stop on it, so on downwind I pulled >> the handle all the way up. Diminished my butt!, The stick came to >> attention and would not move left or right! I knew that wouldn't do, >> so I decided to select a compromise postion that combined the most >> flap with the minimum aileron I thought I might need. The winds were >> light. So, I came down final fine, did my roundout and set up for the >> touchdown. I must have done one of those drop-in touchdowns that >> lowers your tail and sends you right back up again, it all happened >> fast. All I know is that my left wing was up and I wanted it down, >> then the airplane said, no-sir, you denied me that aileron, remember? >> Power, lots of it. Pucker power! I had a blast. >> >> -------- >> Jeff Dill >> Model 2, 767JD >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131609#131609 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Marco Menezes Model 2 582 N99KX --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.


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    Time: 08:19:18 PM PST US
    From: "john oakley" <john@leptron.com>
    Subject: flyin
    Hi guys, Since we have to share cars to get to the motels, where is everybody staying? We could follow Lowell and make him buy us coffee, in the mornings. John Oakley


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    Time: 08:20:33 PM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Primer Fuel Lines / Model II
    I'd start with replacing the cracked primer line. It does get brittle with age and exposure to fuel. I have a Model II here in the High Desert of California. It's been on the hot side lately and I discovered fuel dripping from the plane. It was coming from a cracked line connected to the plastic "T" fitting of the primer. Old age and possibly a build up of temperature caused pressure in the fuel system? What would be the best corrective action? I not sure I like such a fragile looking primer arrangement. Thanks. [Question] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131689#131689 Marco Menezes Model 2 582 N99KX --------------------------------- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.


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    Time: 08:23:07 PM PST US
    From: "john oakley" <john@leptron.com>
    Subject: Primer Fuel Lines / Model II
    I installed a standard (short stroke) primer on my fox. I now have removed my choke, it is not needed any more. I ran the 1/16 inch copper tubes, to the carbs the same, it works great. John Oakley -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rudderdancer Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 7:03 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Primer Fuel Lines / Model II I have a Model II here in the High Desert of California. It's been on the hot side lately and I discovered fuel dripping from the plane. It was coming from a cracked line connected to the plastic "T" fitting of the primer. Old age and possibly a build up of temperature caused pressure in the fuel system? What would be the best corrective action? I not sure I like such a fragile looking primer arrangement. Thanks. [Question] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131689#131689




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