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1. 02:08 AM - Re: Re: 582 engine adjustments (Steve Shinabery)
2. 02:15 AM - Re: Re: South East Kitfox Owners (Steve Shinabery)
3. 03:11 AM - Re: pitot dimensions and alternate location (Dave G.)
4. 04:38 AM - East Coast Kitfox Fly-In! (RAY Gignac)
5. 04:39 AM - EAST COAST KITTY HAWK AND MORE FLY IN.... (Kem Dunnebacke)
6. 04:51 AM - Re: flyin (Lowell Fitt)
7. 04:53 AM - Re: Re: South East Kitfox Owners (tc9008@aol.com)
8. 06:32 AM - Re: flyin (john oakley)
9. 06:41 AM - Re: flyin (kitfoxmike)
10. 07:04 AM - Re: South East Kitfox Owners (wingnut)
11. 07:31 AM - Re: Re: 582 engine adjustments (Marco Menezes)
12. 08:11 AM - Re: Re: South East Kitfox Owners (Jimmy Cantrell)
13. 08:28 AM - Re: Re: flyin (jdmcbean)
14. 08:36 AM - Re: South East Kitfox Owners (wingnut)
15. 09:05 AM - Lowell Fitt Accident (royall merill)
16. 09:36 AM - Re: flyin (kitfoxmike)
17. 09:37 AM - Crash Followup (royall merill)
18. 09:51 AM - Re: pitot dimensions and alternate location (Zimmermans)
19. 09:53 AM - Re: Re: flyin (jdmcbean)
20. 09:56 AM - Re: Crash Followup (jdmcbean)
21. 09:56 AM - More News Info (royall merill)
22. 09:59 AM - Re: Lowell Fitt Accident (Guy Buchanan)
23. 10:08 AM - Re: Crash Followup (Michel Verheughe)
24. 10:13 AM - Re: Crash Followup (jdmcbean)
25. 10:26 AM - Re: Lowell Fitt Accident (Dave G.)
26. 10:45 AM - News Update #3 (royall merill)
27. 10:51 AM - Re: Crash Followup (Jose M. Toro)
28. 11:13 AM - Re: East Coast Kitfox Fly-In! (mscotter@comcast.net)
29. 11:22 AM - Found very heavy corrosion on struts. (Dave G.)
30. 11:53 AM - Re: Crash Followup (Michel Verheughe)
31. 12:09 PM - Re: pitot dimensions and alternate location (Dave G.)
32. 12:15 PM - 582 engine adjustments (fox5flyer)
33. 12:19 PM - Crash Followup (fox5flyer)
34. 12:38 PM - Re: Crash Followup (SUE MICHAELS)
35. 12:42 PM - Re: Re: 582 engine adjustments (Noel Loveys)
36. 12:48 PM - Re: Crash Followup (n85ae)
37. 12:50 PM - Re: Crash Followup (Noel Loveys)
38. 01:19 PM - Re: Crash Followup (kitfoxmike)
39. 01:19 PM - Found very heavy corrosion on struts / support from John and Debra / first flight (Jose M. Toro)
40. 01:25 PM - Re: Crash Followup (eskflyer)
41. 01:50 PM - Re: Puff The Magic Taildragger (jeff puls)
42. 02:06 PM - Re: Puff The Magic Taildragger (kitfoxmike)
43. 02:18 PM - Re: Lowell Fitt Accident (GONER752@aol.com)
44. 02:30 PM - Re: 582 engine adjustments (Marco Menezes)
45. 02:44 PM - Aircraft Instruments (Jimmie Blackwell)
46. 03:50 PM - Texas to Idaho... was Aircraft Instruments (jdmcbean)
47. 03:51 PM - Re: Aircraft Instruments (Noel Loveys)
48. 04:32 PM - Re: Crash Followup (fly2wb@dishmail.net)
49. 05:04 PM - Re: Texas to Idaho... was Aircraft Instruments (Jimmie Blackwell)
50. 05:13 PM - PCAS - Portable Collision Avoidance System (Jimmie Blackwell)
51. 07:56 PM - Re: Primer Fuel Lines / Model II (rudderdancer)
52. 08:21 PM - Re: Crash Followup (rudderdancer)
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| Subject: | Re: 582 engine adjustments |
Thanks for helping me..I too will go to the 40 jets.may be it will run
better at low RPM there.engine runs good at any thing above 2000RPM.I
would like to get teh RPM down just a little bit more if I can.it would
be nice.I thought that may be it could even be the propeller
adj.needed.could this be? Thanks Steve Shinabery,N554KF KF2 582 gray head.
Marco Menezes wrote:
> Hi Steve.
>
> I think shaking is normal for the 582 at low idle rpms. Mine used to
> do that too early on. Now I can't seem get the idle speed below 2500.
> It runs smoothly there but it's a bit too fast for the centrifugal
> clutch to disengage. I'm going to try going from 45 to 40 with the
> idle jets before I go filing the carb slides.
>
> */Steve Shinabery <shinco@bright.net>/* wrote:
>
>
> good day guys.My Kitfox 582 gray head ..runs ruff,and shakes real
> bad.any RPM under 2000.do I too need to replace my jets to 40s.???any
> thing above that it runs fine..I have a kitfox 2,with only 160hr
> TT.built in 1992.N554KF.U think that I too to replace jets??thanks
> Steve
> Shinabery
>
> Bill Malpass wrote:
> >
> >
> > FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH I PUT A NUMBER 40 IN MY 582 GREYHEAD, AND
> IT MADE
> > ALL KINDS OF IMPROVEMENT ON THE IDLE. AT ABOUT 1900, VERY
> SMOOTH, AND
> > BEFORE THAT IT WOULDNT GO MUCH LESS THAT 2400.
> >
> > I AM IN GEORGIA AND BY LEANING ON HOT DAYS, IT REALLY HELPS.
> >
> > BILL
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Dill"
> > <1dillfamily@comcast.net>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:31 PM
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 engine adjustments
> >
> >
> >> <1dillfamily@comcast.net>
> >>
> >> Ok, I get it. Right now I have reached equilibrium again. I am
> >> resolved that I need a leaner idle jet. My only consternation is
> >> about which one to get, #45 or 50? I might sleep on it.
> >>
> >> I flew today. Connecticut has this thing about letting people pull
> >> airplanes on trailers on a state airport. Until I fought it
> with the
> >> help of AOPA, they wouldn't let you do it unless you paid for a
> tie
> >> down. Now, they need proof of insurance and registration to
> protect
> >> themselves in case I hit something. If I only paid for a tie-down,
> >> they wouldn't care if I was insured.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I got through and had fun. Tried to see how short of a
> >> takeoff I could accomplish. I lined up at the edge of a runway
> stripe
> >> and tried to get off before the beginning of the next stripe,
> which I
> >> did, but kind of sideways to the left, just on the brink of
> flight,
> >> my left tire was the last to leave the ground.
> >>
> >> Then I decided to test this thing about dimished aileron with full
> >> flaps. My handle does not have a stop on it, so on downwind I
> pulled
> >> the handle all the way up. Diminished my butt!, The stick came to
> >> attention and would not move left or right! I knew that
> wouldn't do,
> >> so I decided to select a compromise postion that combined the most
> >> flap with the minimum aileron I thought I might need. The winds
> were
> >> light. So, I came down final fine, did my roundout and set up
> for the
> >> touchdown. I must have done one of those drop-in touchdowns that
> >> lowers your tail and sends you right back up again, it all
> happened
> >> fast. All I know is that my left wing was up and I wanted it down,
> >> then the airplane said, no-sir, you denied me that aileron,
> remember?
> >> Power, lots of it. Pucker power! I had a blast.
> >>
> >> --------
> >> Jeff Dill
> >> Model 2,
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| Subject: | Re: South East Kitfox Owners |
I live in Ohio.and close to grand Lake St.Marys.in west central
Ohio.there is Lake field Airport there would be ideal for a Kitfox fly
country air port CQA..lots of room there for one. Steve Shinabery N554KF
dcsfoto wrote:
>
> I have a model III and almost finished with a Model 7,
> live in Arkansas we need a midpoint to have a Kitfox flyin
>
> David
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131699#131699
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: pitot dimensions and alternate location |
Thanks Jim, I actually needed the length. I read all I could find about
location and requirements etc for pitot tubes and it seems there are no
strict design requirements. So my new one will be rib 5 or 6 about 5" below
the wing surface.
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zimmermans" <jezim@pro-ns.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: pitot dimensions and alternate location
>
> My series 5 pitot is .250 OD X .177 ID. I ran mine where the plans said
> except instead of drilling a hole in the spar I ran the tube in grommets
> thru the ribs.
> Jim Z Series 5 under const. 0-200
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:15 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: pitot dimensions and alternate location
>
>
>>
>> I have a mangled pitot and a desire to see it somewhere other than the
>> stock 1991 location. I was eying rib 4 or 5 as an alternate to the
>> specified (in my instructions) rib 7. Has anyone done this? I can't see
>> any problems. I was also thinking of doubling it up and putting a static
>> source along under the pitot tube and epoxying them together. Two 1/16th
>> holes each side of the static should do I would think. I also need the
>> dimensions of the un-mangled pitot if anyone has them .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | East Coast Kitfox Fly-In! |
I have a great location outside the Washington DC ADIZ and (2) nice
grass fields and on VA's Eastern shore! Campbell Airfield! The owner will
allow overnight camping and holds "SOUP ON SUNDAY" every Sunday when it is
cold, and burgers and dogs, drinks all for just a small donation. The area
has history and a very nice place to fly low and slow!!!!
Guys and Gals, lets make this East Coast Fly-In work were ever we go.
Ray Gignac
Model IV,1200 912uls
N2BH
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| Subject: | EAST COAST KITTY HAWK AND MORE FLY IN.... |
Morning, i read that there is interest in a Kitty Hawk fly in? I am Based at Bayboro
NC and know there area it is in route for Kitty Hawk. 10 mls west is EWN,
class D, fuel, car,logging........LETS GO its a ocean flight with many wonderful
views, OBX is on the way with a phone call we get also get fuel.a great
place for brunch! i can have local EAA help if needed, i would be glad to help
organize incoming pilots. info:252-638-5828 h 252-229-8200 cell
Kem Dunnebacke N3163K kitfoxivplay@gmail.com
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Lowell will not be staying at the motels. Unfortunately he has friends in
the area who insists he miss all the fun at the motels and stay on their
farm. ;-)
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "john oakley" <john@leptron.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 8:15 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: flyin
>
> Hi guys,
> Since we have to share cars to get to the motels, where is everybody
> staying? We could follow Lowell and make him buy us coffee, in the
> mornings.
>
> John Oakley
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: South East Kitfox Owners |
How about Roxboro NC? TDF.
Travis
-----Original Message-----
From: wingnut <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
Sent: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 3:47 pm
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: South East Kitfox Owners
> I fly my Kitfox IV out of WOO/Freeway Airport in Mitchellville Md. Lets meet
up and do some Kitfox-in.
Great. Now we just need someplace interesting to fly to that's somewhere between
us. Looks like the midway point will be somewhere around the NC/VA border. Know
anything interesting in that area?
--------
Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)
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Lowell,
Gee that is spoiled. I hope you are helping with the milking and haying. :-)
We will see you at the field then.
John Oakley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lowell Fitt
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: flyin
Lowell will not be staying at the motels. Unfortunately he has friends in
the area who insists he miss all the fun at the motels and stay on their
farm. ;-)
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "john oakley" <john@leptron.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 8:15 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: flyin
>
> Hi guys,
> Since we have to share cars to get to the motels, where is everybody
> staying? We could follow Lowell and make him buy us coffee, in the
> mornings.
>
> John Oakley
>
>
>
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I tried calling the motels that were given and was told there is no rooms. So
I'm bringing the camping equipement. I do have all the info for the surrounding
airports and motels, but the weather is going to be real nice, so camping under
the wing is what I'll probably be doing.
--------
kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
enough"
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| Subject: | Re: South East Kitfox Owners |
Kem Dunnebacke wrote:
> Morning, i read that there is interest in a Kitty Hawk fly in? I am Based at
Bayboro NC and know there area it is in route for Kitty Hawk. 10 mls west is EWN,
class D, fuel, car,logging........LETS GO its a ocean flight with many wonderful
views, OBX is on the way with a phone call we get also get fuel.a great
place for brunch! i can have local EAA help if needed, i would be glad to help
organize incoming pilots. info:252-638-5828 h 252-229-8200 cell
> Kem Dunnebacke N3163K kitfoxivplay@gmail.com
Whoohoo! Lots of great suggestions. No matter what happens, it's already raised
my spirits just to have this many people respond. So far, I count seven interested
pilots and almost as many suggested destinations :-). They all sound interesting
but Kitty Hawk is one that really stands out for me. The thought of
a flock of Kitfoxes gathering at the birthplace of aviation gets my heart pumping.
What do you say guys? Shall we make it Kitty Hawk?
--------
Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)
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| Subject: | Re: 582 engine adjustments |
As I understand it, a coarser pitch on your prop will reduce your rpms at higher
power settings, increase cruise speed and also raise your EGT's. I don't think
it will do much to reduce rpms at idle.
Thanks for helping me..I too will go to the 40 jets.may be it will run
better at low RPM there.engine runs good at any thing above 2000RPM.I
would like to get teh RPM down just a little bit more if I can.it would
be nice.I thought that may be it could even be the propeller
adj.needed.could this be? Thanks Steve Shinabery,N554KF KF2 582 gray head.
Marco Menezes wrote:
> Hi Steve.
>
> I think shaking is normal for the 582 at low idle rpms. Mine used to
> do that too early on. Now I can't seem get the idle speed below 2500.
> It runs smoothly there but it's a bit too fast for the centrifugal
> clutch to disengage. I'm going to try going from 45 to 40 with the
> idle jets before I go filing the carb slides.
>
> */Steve Shinabery /* wrote:
>
>
> good day guys.My Kitfox 582 gray head ..runs ruff,and shakes real
> bad.any RPM under 2000.do I too need to replace my jets to 40s.???any
> thing above that it runs fine..I have a kitfox 2,with only 160hr
> TT.built in 1992.N554KF.U think that I too to replace jets??thanks
> Steve
> Shinabery
>
> Bill Malpass wrote:
> >
> >
> > FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH I PUT A NUMBER 40 IN MY 582 GREYHEAD, AND
> IT MADE
> > ALL KINDS OF IMPROVEMENT ON THE IDLE. AT ABOUT 1900, VERY
> SMOOTH, AND
> > BEFORE THAT IT WOULDNT GO MUCH LESS THAT 2400.
> >
> > I AM IN GEORGIA AND BY LEANING ON HOT DAYS, IT REALLY HELPS.
> >
> > BILL
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Dill"
> > <1dillfamily@comcast.net>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:31 PM
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 engine adjustments
> >
> >
> >> <1dillfamily@comcast.net>
> >>
> >> Ok, I get it. Right now I have reached equilibrium again. I am
> >> resolved that I need a leaner idle jet. My only consternation is
> >> about which one to get, #45 or 50? I might sleep on it.
> >>
> >> I flew today. Connecticut has this thing about letting people pull
> >> airplanes on trailers on a state airport. Until I fought it
> with the
> >> help of AOPA, they wouldn't let you do it unless you paid for a
> tie
> >> down. Now, they need proof of insurance and registration to
> protect
> >> themselves in case I hit something. If I only paid for a tie-down,
> >> they wouldn't care if I was insured.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I got through and had fun. Tried to see how short of a
> >> takeoff I could accomplish. I lined up at the edge of a runway
> stripe
> >> and tried to get off before the beginning of the next stripe,
> which I
> >> did, but kind of sideways to the left, just on the brink of
> flight,
> >> my left tire was the last to leave the ground.
> >>
> >> Then I decided to test this thing about dimished aileron with full
> >> flaps. My handle does not have a stop on it, so on downwind I
> pulled
> >> the handle all the way up. Diminished my butt!, The stick came to
> >> attention and would not move left or right! I knew that
> wouldn't do,
> >> so I decided to select a compromise postion that combined the most
> >> flap with the minimum aileron I thought I might need. The winds
> were
> >> light. So, I came down final fine, did my roundout and set up
> for the
> >> touchdown. I must have done one of those drop-in touchdowns that
> >> lowers your tail and sends you right back up again, it all
> happened
> >> fast. All I know is that my left wing was up and I wanted it down,
> >> then the airplane said, no-sir, you denied me that aileron,
> remember?
> >> Power, lots of it. Pucker power! I had a blast.
> >>
> >> --------
> >> Jeff Dill
> >> Model 2,
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
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>
>
>
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
---------------------------------
Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!
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| Subject: | Re: South East Kitfox Owners |
Hey guys I live in northwest Alabama, does that qualify for southeast fly
in, I have just finished building a 5TD with Rotec radial and hope to get it
inspected next week. I would like to join you if I get enough time on the
fox before then.
Jim Cantrell
Kitfox 5 TD (1995)
Hodges, Alabama
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of wingnut
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:03 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: South East Kitfox Owners
Kem Dunnebacke wrote:
> Morning, i read that there is interest in a Kitty Hawk fly in? I am Based
at Bayboro NC and know there area it is in route for Kitty Hawk. 10 mls west
is EWN, class D, fuel, car,logging........LETS GO its a ocean flight with
many wonderful views, OBX is on the way with a phone call we get also get
fuel.a great place for brunch! i can have local EAA help if needed, i would
be glad to help organize incoming pilots. info:252-638-5828 h 252-229-8200
cell
> Kem Dunnebacke N3163K kitfoxivplay@gmail.com
Whoohoo! Lots of great suggestions. No matter what happens, it's already
raised my spirits just to have this many people respond. So far, I count
seven interested pilots and almost as many suggested destinations :-). They
all sound interesting but Kitty Hawk is one that really stands out for me.
The thought of a flock of Kitfoxes gathering at the birthplace of aviation
gets my heart pumping. What do you say guys? Shall we make it Kitty Hawk?
--------
Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)
Read this topic online here:
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Hey guys... Visit the web.. it mentions the Best Western with contact
info... and they should have some rooms left
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kitfoxmike
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 7:41 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: flyin
I tried calling the motels that were given and was told there is no rooms.
So I'm bringing the camping equipement. I do have all the info for the
surrounding airports and motels, but the weather is going to be real nice,
so camping under the wing is what I'll probably be doing.
--------
kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not
flying enough"
Do not archive
Read this topic online here:
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4:29 PM
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| Subject: | Re: South East Kitfox Owners |
[quote]Hey guys I live in northwest Alabama, does that qualify for southeast fly
in, I have just finished building a 5TD with Rotec radial and hope to get it
inspected next week. I would like to join you if I get enough time on the fox
before then. [quote]
Please come! I started out addressing SE based pilots thinking that people further
away would not be interested. Just to be clear, EVERYONE is welcome as far
as I'm concerned.
A Rotec powered Kitfox is quite a unique specimen. It would be awsome if you could
make it. What kind of timeframe are you looking at?
--------
Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)
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| Subject: | Lowell Fitt Accident |
Dear Listers:
I hate to bear bad news, but we (FAA) just got preliminary info on a
crash involving Lowell Fitt and his wife, yesterday morning at 0630. I
don't have any details. The local news sources are very limited at this
point.
Evidently they experienced some problem not long after taking off from
Cameron Park (home), and crashed on a street just a few miles to the
northeast. So far news reports say the two occupants received "moderate
injuries" and had been taken to a local hospital.
I will update when more is know.
Royal Merrill
I am a S-5 builder and have been on the list for several years. I work
at Northern California TRACON as an ATC instructor, and have been to
Lowell's Fly-in a couple of times.
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We called the best western and was told only one room left and it was exec. sweet
and about 120 dollars. I think I'll camp.
--------
kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
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Listers:
I just got this from the Sacramento Bee website:
Small plane crash injures two in Placerville
By Niesha Lofing - Bee Staff Writer
Last Updated 9:24 am PDT Thursday, August 30, 2007
A small plane has crashed in Placerville near the El Dorado campus of
Folsom Lake College, injuring two Cameron Park residents on board.
The experimental plane took off at 6:15 a.m. and was headed for Idaho,
said El Dorado County Sheriff's deputy Phil Chovanec. It went down about
15 minutes later on private property on Greenwood Lane, just north of
Green Valley Road, said El Dorado County Sheriff's Lt. Kevin House.
The man and woman, whose names were not released, were taken to area
hospital, where they are listed in stable condition. Both are conscious
and are being treated for moderate injuries.
The FAA identified the aircraft as N96KL owned by Lowell Fitt of Cameron
Park. In my initial post I said this happened yesterday, but I
now,believe it happened this morning. It has not hit the FAA Preliminary
Accident data yet.
Royal
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| Subject: | Re: pitot dimensions and alternate location |
5 1/2 X 8 3/4 to the center of the 90 degree. Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: pitot dimensions and alternate location
>
> Thanks Jim, I actually needed the length. I read all I could find about
> location and requirements etc for pitot tubes and it seems there are no
> strict design requirements. So my new one will be rib 5 or 6 about 5"
> below the wing surface.
>
>
> Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Zimmermans" <jezim@pro-ns.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: pitot dimensions and alternate location
>
>
>>
>> My series 5 pitot is .250 OD X .177 ID. I ran mine where the plans said
>> except instead of drilling a hole in the spar I ran the tube in grommets
>> thru the ribs.
>> Jim Z Series 5 under const. 0-200
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:15 PM
>> Subject: Kitfox-List: pitot dimensions and alternate location
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I have a mangled pitot and a desire to see it somewhere other than the
>>> stock 1991 location. I was eying rib 4 or 5 as an alternate to the
>>> specified (in my instructions) rib 7. Has anyone done this? I can't see
>>> any problems. I was also thinking of doubling it up and putting a static
>>> source along under the pitot tube and epoxying them together. Two 1/16th
>>> holes each side of the static should do I would think. I also need the
>>> dimensions of the un-mangled pitot if anyone has them .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM
>
>
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Did you try LaQuinta ??
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kitfoxmike
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:35 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: flyin
We called the best western and was told only one room left and it was exec.
sweet and about 120 dollars. I think I'll camp.
--------
kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not
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I have tried to contact Lowell and Kay directly.. Have not heard anything as
of yet...
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of royall merill
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:36 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Crash Followup
Listers:
I just got this from the Sacramento Bee website:
Small plane crash injures two in Placerville
By Niesha Lofing - Bee Staff Writer
Last Updated 9:24 am PDT Thursday, August 30, 2007
A small plane has crashed in Placerville near the El Dorado campus of
Folsom Lake College, injuring two Cameron Park residents on board.
The experimental plane took off at 6:15 a.m. and was headed for Idaho,
said El Dorado County Sheriff's deputy Phil Chovanec. It went down about
15 minutes later on private property on Greenwood Lane, just north of
Green Valley Road, said El Dorado County Sheriff's Lt. Kevin House.
The man and woman, whose names were not released, were taken to area
hospital, where they are listed in stable condition. Both are conscious
and are being treated for moderate injuries.
The FAA identified the aircraft as N96KL owned by Lowell Fitt of Cameron
Park. In my initial post I said this happened yesterday, but I
now,believe it happened this morning. It has not hit the FAA Preliminary
Accident data yet.
Royal
8:21 PM
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Listers:
I just got this weblink from Sacramento News10, with some aerial footage
of the crash site...definitely Lowell's bird.
http://www.news10.net/display_story.aspx?storyid=32209
Royal Merrill
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| Subject: | Re: Lowell Fitt Accident |
At 09:04 AM 8/30/2007, you wrote:
>I hate to bear bad news, but we (FAA) just got preliminary info on a
>crash involving Lowell Fitt and his wife, yesterday morning at 0630. I
>don't have any details. The local news sources are very limited at this
>point.
>
>Evidently they experienced some problem not long after taking off from
>Cameron Park (home), and crashed on a street just a few miles to the
>northeast. So far news reports say the two occupants received "moderate
>injuries" and had been taken to a local hospital.
>
>I will update when more is know.
I certainly hope you are wrong, as I received an email from him at
4:17 pm yesterday, 8/29. I was virtually unable to find anything on
the internet either. Please keep us informed.
Thanks,
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Crash Followup |
On Aug 30, 2007, at 6:36 PM, royall merill wrote:
> Both are conscious and are being treated for moderate injuries.
Good Lord! I don't know what to say ... if you can, please keep us
informed about their health; the reason of the crash and circumstances
can wait!
Michel
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Just a quick follow-up
Lowell & Kay are fine.. Lowell will share more details a little later....
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jdmcbean
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Crash Followup
I have tried to contact Lowell and Kay directly.. Have not heard anything as
of yet...
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of royall merill
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:36 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Crash Followup
Listers:
I just got this from the Sacramento Bee website:
Small plane crash injures two in Placerville
By Niesha Lofing - Bee Staff Writer
Last Updated 9:24 am PDT Thursday, August 30, 2007
A small plane has crashed in Placerville near the El Dorado campus of
Folsom Lake College, injuring two Cameron Park residents on board.
The experimental plane took off at 6:15 a.m. and was headed for Idaho,
said El Dorado County Sheriff's deputy Phil Chovanec. It went down about
15 minutes later on private property on Greenwood Lane, just north of
Green Valley Road, said El Dorado County Sheriff's Lt. Kevin House.
The man and woman, whose names were not released, were taken to area
hospital, where they are listed in stable condition. Both are conscious
and are being treated for moderate injuries.
The FAA identified the aircraft as N96KL owned by Lowell Fitt of Cameron
Park. In my initial post I said this happened yesterday, but I
now,believe it happened this morning. It has not hit the FAA Preliminary
Accident data yet.
Royal
8:21 PM
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| Subject: | Re: Lowell Fitt Accident |
Sorry to hear of Lowells crash but I'm much relieved that both will
survive. Best wishes for a speedy and full recovery Lowell.
Guy Buchanan wrote:
>
> At 09:04 AM 8/30/2007, you wrote:
>
>> I hate to bear bad news, but we (FAA) just got preliminary info on a
>> crash involving Lowell Fitt and his wife, yesterday morning at 0630. I
>> don't have any details. The local news sources are very limited at this
>> point.
>>
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Listers;
I am trying get any news of Lowell and Kay's condition. Here are links
to the three local TV stations and SacBee paper:
http://cbs13.com/local/local_story_242100546.html
http://www.news10.net/
http://www.kcra.com/news/14012071/detail.html
http://www.sacbee.com/101/story/352034.html
It appears they are injured, but are being treated. Hopefully, the news
sources will have more indepth follow-up this afternoon.
Royal Merrill
NCT
Mather, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Crash Followup |
Thanks for the good news!
Jose
----- Original Message ----
From: jdmcbean <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:13:06 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Crash Followup
Just a quick follow-up
Lowell & Kay are fine.. Lowell will share more details a little later....
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jdmcbean
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Crash Followup
I have tried to contact Lowell and Kay directly.. Have not heard anything as
of yet...
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of royall merill
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:36 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Crash Followup
Listers:
I just got this from the Sacramento Bee website:
Small plane crash injures two in Placerville
By Niesha Lofing - Bee Staff Writer
Last Updated 9:24 am PDT Thursday, August 30, 2007
A small plane has crashed in Placerville near the El Dorado campus of
Folsom Lake College, injuring two Cameron Park residents on board.
The experimental plane took off at 6:15 a.m. and was headed for Idaho,
said El Dorado County Sheriff's deputy Phil Chovanec. It went down about
15 minutes later on private property on Greenwood Lane, just north of
Green Valley Road, said El Dorado County Sheriff's Lt. Kevin House.
The man and woman, whose names were not released, were taken to area
hospital, where they are listed in stable condition. Both are conscious
and are being treated for moderate injuries.
The FAA identified the aircraft as N96KL owned by Lowell Fitt of Cameron
Park. In my initial post I said this happened yesterday, but I
now,believe it happened this morning. It has not hit the FAA Preliminary
Accident data yet.
Royal
8:21 PM
8:21 PM
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| Subject: | Re: East Coast Kitfox Fly-In! |
Wow Ray, that Soup on Sunday looks like a really cool deal. I don't have a kitfox
to fly in yet, but I'm thinkin about talking my Dad into flying down there
in his Cirrus to check it out. Looks like a really interesting bunch of people
and airplanes.
If there was a Kitfox flyin there (or nearby, I'm in Elkton, MD) I'd come and check
it out.
Mark Scott
Elkton, MD
Kitfox model IV, 60%
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "RAY Gignac" <kitfoxpilot@msn.com>
>
>
> I have a great location outside the Washington DC ADIZ and (2) nice
> grass fields and on VA's Eastern shore! Campbell Airfield! The owner will
> allow overnight camping and holds "SOUP ON SUNDAY" every Sunday when it is
> cold, and burgers and dogs, drinks all for just a small donation. The area
> has history and a very nice place to fly low and slow!!!!
>
> Guys and Gals, lets make this East Coast Fly-In work were ever we go.
>
> Ray Gignac
> Model IV,1200 912uls
> N2BH
<html><body>
<DIV>Wow Ray, that Soup on Sunday looks like a really cool deal. I don't
have a kitfox to fly in yet, but I'm thinkin about talking my Dad into flying
down there in his Cirrus to check it out. Looks like a really interesting
bunch of people and airplanes.</DIV>
<DIV>If there was a Kitfox flyin there (or nearby, I'm in Elkton, MD) I'd come
and check it out.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Mark Scott</DIV>
<DIV>Elkton, MD</DIV>
<DIV>Kitfox model IV, 60%</DIV>
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solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "RAY Gignac"
<kitfoxpilot@msn.com> <BR><BR>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by:
"RAY Gignac" <KITFOXPILOT@MSN.COM><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I have a great
location outside the Washington DC ADIZ and (2) nice <BR>> grass fields and
on VA's Eastern shore! Campbell Airfield! The owner will <BR>> allow overnight
camping and holds "SOUP ON SUNDAY" every Sunday when it is <BR>> cold,
and burgers and dogs, drinks all for just a small donation. The area <BR>>
has history and a very nice place to fly low and slow!!!! <BR>> <BR>> Guys
and Gals, lets make this East Coast Fly-In work were ever we go. <BR>>
<BR>> Ray Gignac <BR>> Model IV,1200 912uls <BR>> N2BH </BLOCKQUOTE>
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| Subject: | Found very heavy corrosion on struts. |
I decided to remove the old fairings the old struts that I have
replaced. I won't use them over but thought it might be worth hanging
onto them for a bit. Under the polyfiber covering I found heavily sanded
bright metal where the primer came off with the polyfiber and smotth
primer in the areaa where it didn't. The wood looks like nice straight
grained pine and still smells like freshly cut, very dry and light. In
the area downstrut from the jury strut mounts where weather or
condensate has been able to gather for about two feet there is very
heavy and scaly rust I took a wire brush to to it and then cut it in
several sections in this area and I don't think it represents anything
that would fail, yet. I just figured I'd mention it as a potential area
of concern. these are Denney/Skystar struts from 1991. The inside is
still dull grey and appears to have an oil coating.
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| Subject: | Re: Crash Followup |
On Aug 30, 2007, at 7:13 PM, jdmcbean wrote:
> Lowell & Kay are fine.. Lowell will share more details a little
> later....
Thanks, John, that's the news I wanted to hear. For you, guys in the
US: while I live in Europe and never had the pleasure to meet Lowell
and Kay, as some of you has, I nearly did last year, when I was about
to fly to San Francisco with my son. Lowell and Kay had invited me to
their place and I was really looking forward to meet them at Cameron
Park, the dream residence for pilots. Alas, a sudden illness of our
grand daughter prevented us to do the trip. Lowell has also helped me a
lot with parts for my plane.
I would like then join you to give my best wishes to Kay and Lowell for
a prompt return to a normal life and let me participate if we can do
anything to brighten their next days. Contact me off-list for any
arrangement.
Best regards,
Michel
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| Subject: | Re: pitot dimensions and alternate location |
Thanks, I now have a new pitot, stainless this time as I was unable to buy
1/4" aluminum tube.
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Zimmermans" <jezim@pro-ns.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: pitot dimensions and alternate location
>
> 5 1/2 X 8 3/4 to the center of the 90 degree. Jim
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| Subject: | 582 engine adjustments |
Partly true Marco. A coarser pitch on the prop will "reduce" EGTs at
cruise.
Good seeing you at East Tawas.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: Marco Menezes
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 engine adjustments
As I understand it, a coarser pitch on your prop will reduce your rpms
at higher power settings, increase cruise speed and also raise your
EGT's. I don't think it will do much to reduce rpms at idle.
Steve Shinabery <shinco@bright.net> wrote:
Thanks for helping me..I too will go to the 40 jets.may be it will
run
better at low RPM there.engine runs good at any thing above
2000RPM.I
would like to get teh RPM down just a little bit more if I can.it
would
be nice.I thought that may be it could even be the propeller
adj.needed.could this be? Thanks Steve Shinabery,N554KF KF2 582 gray
head.
Marco Menezes wrote:
> Hi Steve.
>
> I think shaking is normal for the 582 at low idle rpms. Mine used
to
> do that too early on. Now I can't seem get the idle speed below
2500.
> It runs smoothly there but it's a bit too fast for the centrifugal
> clutch to disengage. I'm going to try going from 45 to 40 with the
> idle jets before I go filing the carb slides.
>
> */Steve Shinabery /* wrote:
>
>
> good day guys.My Kitfox 582 gray head ..runs ruff,and shakes real
> bad.any RPM under 2000.do I too need to replace my jets to
40s.???any
> thing above that it runs fine..I have a kitfox 2,with only 160hr
> TT.built in 1992.N554KF.U think that I too to replace jets??thanks
> Steve
> Shinabery
>
> Bill Malpass wrote:
> >
> >
> > FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH I PUT A NUMBER 40 IN MY 582 GREYHEAD, AND
> IT MADE
> > ALL KINDS OF IMPROVEMENT ON THE IDLE. AT ABOUT 1900, VERY
> SMOOTH, AND
> > BEFORE THAT IT WOULDNT GO MUCH LESS THAT 2400.
> >
> > I AM IN GEORGIA AND BY LEANING ON HOT DAYS, IT REALLY HELPS.
> >
> > BILL
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Dill"
> > <1dillfamily@comcast.net>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:31 PM
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 engine adjustments
> >
> >
> >> <1dillfamily@comcast.net>
> >>
> >> Ok, I get it. Right now I have reached equilibrium again. I am
> >> resolved that I need a leaner idle jet. My only consternation
is
> >> about which one to get, #45 or 50? I might sleep on it.
> >>
> >> I flew today. Connecticut has this thing about letting people
pull
> >> airplanes on trailers on a state airport. Until I fought it
> with the
> >> help of AOPA, they wouldn't let you do it unless you paid for a
> tie
> >> down. Now, they need proof of insurance and registration to
> protect
> >> themselves in case I hit something. If I only paid for a
tie-down,
> >> they wouldn't care if I was insured.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I got through and had fun. Tried to see how short of a
> >> takeoff I could accomplish. I lined up at the edge of a runway
> stripe
> >> and tried to get off before the beginning of the next stripe,
> which I
> >> did, but kind of sideways to the left, just on the brink of
> flight,
> >> my left tire was the last to leave the ground.
> >>
> >> Then I decided to test this thing about dimished aileron with
full
> >> flaps. My handle does not have a stop on it, so on downwind I
> pulled
> >> the handle all the way up. Diminished my butt!, The stick came
to
> >> attention and would not move left or right! I knew that
> wouldn't do,
> >> so I decided to select a compromise postion that combined the
most
> >> flap with the minimum aileron I thought I might need. The winds
> were
> >> light. So, I came down final fine, did my roundout and set up
> for the
> >> touchdown. I must have done one of those drop-in touchdowns
that
> >> lowers your tail and sends you right back up again, it all
> happened
> >> fast. All I know is that my left wing was up and I wanted it
down,
> >> then the airplane said, no-sir, you denied me that aileron,
> remember?
> >> Power, lots of it. Pucker power! I had a blast.
> >>
>
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Wow, I just read the initial report and nearly fell out of my chair, but
your message below will make my day go a little easier.
Awaiting more news.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Crash Followup
<jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
>
> Just a quick follow-up
>
> Lowell & Kay are fine.. Lowell will share more details a little later....
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> 208.337.5111
> www.kitfoxaircraft.com
> "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jdmcbean
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:56 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Crash Followup
>
<jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
>
> I have tried to contact Lowell and Kay directly.. Have not heard anything
as
> of yet...
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> 208.337.5111
> www.kitfoxaircraft.com
> "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of royall merill
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:36 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Crash Followup
>
>
> Listers:
>
> I just got this from the Sacramento Bee website:
>
> Small plane crash injures two in Placerville
> By Niesha Lofing - Bee Staff Writer
> Last Updated 9:24 am PDT Thursday, August 30, 2007
>
>
> A small plane has crashed in Placerville near the El Dorado campus of
> Folsom Lake College, injuring two Cameron Park residents on board.
>
> The experimental plane took off at 6:15 a.m. and was headed for Idaho,
> said El Dorado County Sheriff's deputy Phil Chovanec. It went down about
> 15 minutes later on private property on Greenwood Lane, just north of
> Green Valley Road, said El Dorado County Sheriff's Lt. Kevin House.
>
> The man and woman, whose names were not released, were taken to area
> hospital, where they are listed in stable condition. Both are conscious
> and are being treated for moderate injuries.
>
> The FAA identified the aircraft as N96KL owned by Lowell Fitt of Cameron
> Park. In my initial post I said this happened yesterday, but I
> now,believe it happened this morning. It has not hit the FAA Preliminary
> Accident data yet.
>
> Royal
>
>
> 8:21 PM
>
> 8:21 PM
>
>
> 8:21 PM
>
> 8:21 PM
>
>
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Terrible news of Lowell and Kay's injuries and loss of a sweet aircraft !
Great news that they will mend and hopefully get back in the saddle again in
the near future.
jdmcbean <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com> wrote:
Just a quick follow-up
Lowell & Kay are fine.. Lowell will share more details a little later....
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jdmcbean
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Crash Followup
I have tried to contact Lowell and Kay directly.. Have not heard anything as
of yet...
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of royall merill
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:36 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Crash Followup
Listers:
I just got this from the Sacramento Bee website:
Small plane crash injures two in Placerville
By Niesha Lofing - Bee Staff Writer
Last Updated 9:24 am PDT Thursday, August 30, 2007
A small plane has crashed in Placerville near the El Dorado campus of
Folsom Lake College, injuring two Cameron Park residents on board.
The experimental plane took off at 6:15 a.m. and was headed for Idaho,
said El Dorado County Sheriff's deputy Phil Chovanec. It went down about
15 minutes later on private property on Greenwood Lane, just north of
Green Valley Road, said El Dorado County Sheriff's Lt. Kevin House.
The man and woman, whose names were not released, were taken to area
hospital, where they are listed in stable condition. Both are conscious
and are being treated for moderate injuries.
The FAA identified the aircraft as N96KL owned by Lowell Fitt of Cameron
Park. In my initial post I said this happened yesterday, but I
now,believe it happened this morning. It has not hit the FAA Preliminary
Accident data yet.
Royal
8:21 PM
8:21 PM
8:21 PM
8:21 PM
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| Subject: | Re: 582 engine adjustments |
"Two out of three ain't bad" .... Increasing pitch lowers EGT. All other
things remaining consistent.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marco Menezes
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 engine adjustments
As I understand it, a coarser pitch on your prop will reduce your rpms at
higher power settings, increase cruise speed and also raise your EGT's. I
don't think it will do much to reduce rpms at idle.
Steve Shinabery <shinco@bright.net> wrote:
Thanks for helping me..I too will go to the 40 jets.may be it will run
better at low RPM there.engine runs good at any thing above 2000RPM.I
would like to get teh RPM down just a little bit more if I can.it would
be nice.I thought that may be it could even be the propeller
adj.needed.could this be? Thanks Steve Shinabery,N554KF KF2 582 gray head.
Marco Menezes wrote:
> Hi Steve.
>
> I think shaking is normal for the 582 at low idle rpms. Mine used to
> do that too early on. Now I can't seem get the idle speed below 2500.
> It runs smoothly there but it's a bit too fast for the centrifugal
> clutch to disengage. I'm going to try going from 45 to 40 with the
> idle jets before I go filing the carb slides.
>
> */Steve Shinabery /* wrote:
>
>
> good day guys.My Kitfox 582 gray head ..runs ruff,and shakes real
> bad.any RPM under 2000.do I too need to replace my jets to 40s.???any
> thing above that it runs fine..I have a kitfox 2,with only 160hr
> TT.built in 1992.N554KF.U think that I too to replace jets??thanks
> Steve
> Shinabery
>
> Bill Malpass wrote:
> >
> >
> > FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH I PUT A NUMBER 40 IN MY 582 GREYHEAD, AND
> IT MADE
> > ALL KINDS OF IMPROVEMENT ON THE IDLE. AT ABOUT 1900, VERY
> SMOOTH, AND
> > BEFORE THAT IT WOULDNT GO MUCH LESS THAT 2400.
> >
> > I AM IN GEORGIA AND BY LEANING ON HOT DAYS, IT REALLY HELPS.
> >
> > BILL
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Dill"
> > <1dillfamily@comcast.net>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:31 PM
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 engine adjustments
> >
> >
> >> <1dillfamily@comcast.net>
> >>
> >> Ok, I get it. Right now I have reached equilibrium again. I am
> >> resolved that I need a leaner idle jet. My only consternation is
> >> about which one to get, #45 or 50? I might sleep on it.
> >>
> >> I flew today. Connecticut has this thing about letting people pull
> >> airplanes on trailers on a state airport. Until I fought it
> with the
> >> help of AOPA, they wouldn't let you do it unless you paid for a
> tie
> >> down. Now, they need proof of insurance and registration to
> protect
> >> themselves in case I hit something. If I only paid for a tie-down,
> >> they wouldn't care if I was insured.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I got through and had fun. Tried to see how short of a
> >> takeoff I could accomplish. I lined up at the edge of a runway
> stripe
> >> and tried to get off before the beginning of the next stripe,
> which I
> >> did, but kind of sideways to the left, just on the brink of
> flight,
> >> my left tire was the last to leave the ground.
> >>
> >> Then I decided to test this thing about dimished aileron with full
> >> flaps. My handle does not have a stop on it, so on downwind I
> pulled
> >> the handle all the way up. Diminished my butt!, The stick came to
> >> attention and would not move left or right! I knew that
> wouldn't do,
> >> so I decided to select a compromise postion that combined the most
> >> flap with the minimum aileron I thought I might need. The winds
> were
> >> light. So, I came down final fine, did my roundout and set up
> for the
> >> touchdown. I must have done one of those drop-in touchdowns that
> >> lowers your tail and sends you right back up again, it all
> happened
> >> fast. All I know is that my left wing was up and I wanted it down,
> >> then the airplane said, no-sir, you denied me that aileron,
> remember?
> >> Power, lots of it. Pucker power! I had a blast.
> >>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Crash Followup |
The description of the wreckage sounds bad.
http://www.sacbee.com/101/story/352034.html
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My best wishes to Lowell and his wife for a speedy and complete recovery.
Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern
Campbellton, Newfoundland,
Canada
Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA
Aerocet 1100s
<mailto:noelloveys@yahoo.ca> noelloveys@yahoo.ca
Do not archive
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Michel Verheughe
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:22 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Crash Followup
>
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2007, at 7:13 PM, jdmcbean wrote:
> > Lowell & Kay are fine.. Lowell will share more details a little
> > later....
>
> Thanks, John, that's the news I wanted to hear. For you, guys in the
> US: while I live in Europe and never had the pleasure to meet Lowell
> and Kay, as some of you has, I nearly did last year, when I was about
> to fly to San Francisco with my son. Lowell and Kay had invited me to
> their place and I was really looking forward to meet them at Cameron
> Park, the dream residence for pilots. Alas, a sudden illness of our
> grand daughter prevented us to do the trip. Lowell has also
> helped me a
> lot with parts for my plane.
>
> I would like then join you to give my best wishes to Kay and
> Lowell for
> a prompt return to a normal life and let me participate if we can do
> anything to brighten their next days. Contact me off-list for any
> arrangement.
>
> Best regards,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Crash Followup |
It is really sad to hear about this. Glad they will be ok. Now for the airplane,
it's his baby, he will hurt at that lose. He may have future problems with
the FAA, maybe a check ride. He will have withdrawls, he WILL have problems
with getting back in the saddle, his wife will have problems of this kind as
well. I wish him all that can be given for the hurdles he has in store. I personally
know what it's like to crash an airplane, not fun, the aftermath that
is. Many people come back and bash you as a pilot, not fun either. I wish Lowell
and his wife the best.
--------
kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
enough"
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| Subject: | Found very heavy corrosion on struts / support from John |
and Debra / first flight
Dave:=0A=0AI had a similar experience with my ex KF II. The wood fairings
were removed after the plane had been grounded for about a year. What we f
ound in one of the lift struts was a hole on the wing lift strut right unde
r one of the jury strut attach brackets. It was obvious that the wood fair
ing was retaining water concentrated in that point. =0A=0ATo fix the probl
em, we obtained two brand new wing lift struts from Kitfox LLC. Since ther
e are no jigs available for earlier/Dan Denney models, we had to send an ol
d strut to be used as a model to copy the dimensions/angles/etc.=0A=0AI'm v
ery pleased and grateful of the responsiveness and friendly support that I
got from John and Debra.=0A=0AI'm happy to report that on Saturday, Aug 25,
I performed the first test flight after the plane was fully restored. "My
" Kitfox II has a proud, new owner... but I'm still in love!!!=0A=0AJose To
ro=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Dave G. <occom@ns.sympati
co.ca>=0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:
21:57 PM=0ASubject: Kitfox-List: Found very heavy corrosion on struts.=0A
=0A=0AI decided to remove the old fairings the old struts that I have =0Are
placed. I won't use them over but thought it might be worth hanging =0Aonto
them for a bit. Under the polyfiber covering I found heavily sanded =0Abri
ght metal where the primer came off with the polyfiber and smotth =0Aprimer
in the areaa where it didn't. The wood looks like nice straight =0Agraine
d pine and still smells like freshly cut, very dry and light. In =0Athe are
a downstrut from the jury strut mounts where weather or =0Acondensate has b
een able to gather for about two feet there is very =0Aheavy and scaly rust
I took a wire brush to to it and then cut it in =0Aseveral sections in thi
s area and I don't think it represents anything =0Athat would fail, yet. I
just figured I'd mention it as a potential area =0Aof concern. these are De
nney/Skystar struts from 1991. The inside is =0Astill dull grey and appears
==========0A=0A=0A =0A_____________________________
_______________________________________________________=0AGot a little couc
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| Subject: | Re: Crash Followup |
I truly hope they are both OK . Hopefully will get back in air soon .
John Perry
--------
FLY FUN FLY LOW FLY SLOW
John Perry
Kitfox 2 N718PD
582 cbox 2:62-1 IVO IFA
WHEELS NorthAire Floats
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| Subject: | Re: Puff The Magic Taildragger |
Thanks Randy, I appreciate it. Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Daughenbaugh
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:03 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Puff The Magic Taildragger
Jeff,
This exact scenario has been described before on the list. It would
seem that you have nothing to worry about.
Randy Daughenbaugh, N10NH
Black Hills of South Dakota, - Near Mount Rushmore
Home Strip, Grass Room in Hangar for visitors
Series 5/7 (7 Firewall Forward) 912S, Warp Drive Taper Tip
Gross Weight 1320 lbs, Flying since November 2004
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeff puls
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 9:15 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: Puff The Magic Taildragger
I went out to the airport to fly the Fox the other night. I have the
912UL. I have not flown in over a month and a half. I removed my oil cap
to cycle the prop through. The prop seemed to be frozen. In the past I
have removed a plug and let the oil seep out as I was cranking the
engine and it locked. Anyway, while I was standing there I leaned on the
prop as it was at the horizontal. Ever so lightly I leaned on the prop
and applied a little constant pressure and it cycled through. I
continued to cycle the prop and after what seemed like a short period of
time (Less than normal) it did the customary "Gurgle." I started the
engine and got a bunch of smoke coming from my exhaust. It seemed to do
it for about 200' and then it stopped. It looked like I was spraying for
misquitos. I went ahead and flew and the engine ran perfect. I assume
that I had some oil in one of the cylinders when it seemed to be locked.
Does anyone concur with that. I don't think I bent a rod because it ran
perfect as it always does. It hasn't belched or f _ _ ted in 300 hours.
Jeff Classic IV
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| Subject: | Re: Puff The Magic Taildragger |
Not anything to worry about. The two back cylinders are the ones that get the
oil. Mainly because of the tail wheel. Next time you can just remove the back
spark plugs and spray some brake cleaner in there and wash out the oil in the
cylinders and of course burp the system. Then you can start it without the oil
burn, otherwise you can just do what you did and leave a smoke trail.
--------
kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
enough"
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| Subject: | Re: Lowell Fitt Accident |
Good thoughts and prayers to Lowell and his wife.
Greg G.
Macedon, N.Y.
23NK
n375KL
Mod 2
582
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| Subject: | Re: 582 engine adjustments |
Thanks. I'm here to learn. (66%, a "C-" passing, but barely)
My best also to Lowell and wife. Tho we've not had the pleasure of meeting face
to face, I've learned alot from him in this forum.
do not archive
fox5flyer <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> wrote:
Partly true Marco. A coarser pitch on the prop will "reduce" EGTs at
cruise.
Good seeing you at East Tawas.
Deke
----- Original Message -----
From: Marco Menezes
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 engine adjustments
As I understand it, a coarser pitch on your prop will reduce your rpms at higher
power settings, increase cruise speed and also raise your EGT's. I don't think
it will do much to reduce rpms at idle.
Thanks for helping me..I too will go to the 40 jets.may be it will run
better at low RPM there.engine runs good at any thing above 2000RPM.I
would like to get teh RPM down just a little bit more if I can.it would
be nice.I thought that may be it could even be the propeller
adj.needed.could this be? Thanks Steve Shinabery,N554KF KF2 582 gray head.
Marco Menezes wrote:
> Hi Steve.
>
> I think shaking is normal for the 582 at low idle rpms. Mine used to
> do that too early on. Now I can't seem get the idle speed below 2500.
> It runs smoothly there but it's a bit too fast for the centrifugal
> clutch to disengage. I'm going to try going from 45 to 40 with the
> idle jets before I go filing the carb slides.
>
> */Steve Shinabery /* wrote:
>
>
> good day guys.My Kitfox 582 gray head ..runs ruff,and shakes real
> bad.any RPM under 2000.do I too need to replace my jets to 40s.???any
> thing above that it runs fine..I have a kitfox 2,with only 160hr
> TT.built in 1992.N554KF.U think that I too to replace jets??thanks
> Steve
> Shinabery
>
> Bill Malpass wrote:
> >
> >
> > FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH I PUT A NUMBER 40 IN MY 582 GREYHEAD, AND
> IT MADE
> > ALL KINDS OF IMPROVEMENT ON THE IDLE. AT ABOUT 1900, VERY
> SMOOTH, AND
> > BEFORE THAT IT WOULDNT GO MUCH LESS THAT 2400.
> >
> > I AM IN GEORGIA AND BY LEANING ON HOT DAYS, IT REALLY HELPS.
> >
> > BILL
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Dill"
> > <1dillfamily@comcast.net>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:31 PM
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 582 engine adjustments
> >
> >
> >> <1dillfamily@comcast.net>
> >>
> >> Ok, I get it. Right now I have reached equilibrium again. I am
> >> resolved that I need a leaner idle jet. My only consternation is
> >> about which one to get, #45 or 50? I might sleep on it.
> >>
> >> I flew today. Connecticut has this thing about letting people pull
> >> airplanes on trailers on a state airport. Until I fought it
> with the
> >> help of AOPA, they wouldn't let you do it unless you paid for a
> tie
> >> down. Now, they need proof of insurance and registration to
> protect
> >> themselves in case I hit something. If I only paid for a tie-down,
> >> they wouldn't care if I was insured.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I got through and had fun. Tried to see how short of a
> >> takeoff I could accomplish. I lined up at the edge of a runway
> stripe
> >> and tried to get off before the beginning of the next stripe,
> which I
> >> did, but kind of sideways to the left, just on the brink of
> flight,
> >> my left tire was the last to leave the ground.
> >>
> >> Then I decided to test this thing about dimished aileron with full
> >> flaps. My handle does not have a stop on it, so on downwind I
> pulled
> >> the handle all the way up. Diminished my butt!, The stick came to
> >> attention and would not move left or right! I knew that
> wouldn't do,
> >> so I decided to select a compromise postion that combined the most
> >> flap with the minimum aileron I thought I might need. The winds
> were
> >> light. So, I came down final fine, did my roundout and set up
> for the
> >> touchdown. I must have done one of those drop-in touchdowns that
> >> lowers your tail and sends you right back up again, it all
> happened
> >> fast. All I know is that my left wing was up and I wanted it down,
> >> then the airplane said, no-sir, you denied me that aileron,
> remember?
> >> Power, lots of it. Pucker power! I had a blast.
> >>
>
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
Marco Menezes
Model 2 582 N99KX
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| Subject: | Aircraft Instruments |
I have several instruments that some of the new builders may need. All
are new and still in the original boxes. If interested email me direct
at jimmieblackwell@austin.rr.com or call me at 512 695-6627. Each
instrument has the appropriate connectors, panel attaching hardware,
sensors and senders.
Following are the instruments:
Dual oil temperature and pressure by Westberg, includes sensors and
sendors.
Cylinder Head temperature by Westberg, includes sendor.
Fuel level by Westberg.
Air Path Compass
Airspeed indicator, 0-120mph, by Airwolf
Altimeter
Prefer to sell them altogether. To buy them from Spruce and Air Wolf
would cost over $800. I will take $500 for all them and pay for
shipping.
Be happy to talk to anyone interested.
Thank you.
Jimmie
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| Subject: | Texas to Idaho... was Aircraft Instruments |
Hey Jimmie. How come you didnt come up with Rocky and Denise ?? Theyre
here !!
Do not Archive
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jimmie Blackwell
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:44 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Instruments
I have several instruments that some of the new builders may need. All are
new and still in the original boxes. If interested email me direct at
jimmieblackwell@austin.rr.com <mailto:jimmieblackwell@austin.rr.com> or
call me at 512 695-6627. Each instrument has the appropriate connectors,
panel attaching hardware, sensors and senders.
Following are the instruments:
Dual oil temperature and pressure by Westberg, includes sensors and sendors.
Cylinder Head temperature by Westberg, includes sendor.
Fuel level by Westberg.
Air Path Compass
Airspeed indicator, 0-120mph, by Airwolf
Altimeter
Prefer to sell them altogether. To buy them from Spruce and Air Wolf would
cost over $800. I will take $500 for all them and pay for shipping.
Be happy to talk to anyone interested.
Thank you.
Jimmie
8:21 PM
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| Subject: | Aircraft Instruments |
Where are you located ??
Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern
Campbellton, Newfoundland,
Canada
Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA
Aerocet 1100s
<mailto:noelloveys@yahoo.ca> noelloveys@yahoo.ca
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jimmie
Blackwell
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 7:14 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Instruments
I have several instruments that some of the new builders may need. All
are
new and still in the original boxes. If interested email me direct at
jimmieblackwell@austin.rr.com or call me at 512 695-6627. Each
instrument
has the appropriate connectors, panel attaching hardware, sensors and
senders.
Following are the instruments:
Dual oil temperature and pressure by Westberg, includes sensors and
sendors.
Cylinder Head temperature by Westberg, includes sendor.
Fuel level by Westberg.
Air Path Compass
Airspeed indicator, 0-120mph, by Airwolf
Altimeter
Prefer to sell them altogether. To buy them from Spruce and Air Wolf
would
cost over $800. I will take $500 for all them and pay for shipping.
Be happy to talk to anyone interested.
Thank you.
Jimmie
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Thanks so much for the update John.
So glad they are OK!
The plane looks terrible--go to KCRA.com for pics and short video.
Brad
Wichita
5-LYC o-235
> <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
>
> Just a quick follow-up
>
> Lowell & Kay are fine.. Lowell will share more details a little later....
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> 208.337.5111
> www.kitfoxaircraft.com
> "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jdmcbean
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:56 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Crash Followup
>
> <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
>
> I have tried to contact Lowell and Kay directly.. Have not heard anything
> as
> of yet...
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> 208.337.5111
> www.kitfoxaircraft.com
> "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of royall merill
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:36 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Crash Followup
>
>
> Listers:
>
> I just got this from the Sacramento Bee website:
>
> Small plane crash injures two in Placerville
> By Niesha Lofing - Bee Staff Writer
> Last Updated 9:24 am PDT Thursday, August 30, 2007
>
>
> A small plane has crashed in Placerville near the El Dorado campus of
> Folsom Lake College, injuring two Cameron Park residents on board.
>
> The experimental plane took off at 6:15 a.m. and was headed for Idaho,
> said El Dorado County Sheriff's deputy Phil Chovanec. It went down about
> 15 minutes later on private property on Greenwood Lane, just north of
> Green Valley Road, said El Dorado County Sheriff's Lt. Kevin House.
>
> The man and woman, whose names were not released, were taken to area
> hospital, where they are listed in stable condition. Both are conscious
> and are being treated for moderate injuries.
>
> The FAA identified the aircraft as N96KL owned by Lowell Fitt of Cameron
> Park. In my initial post I said this happened yesterday, but I
> now,believe it happened this morning. It has not hit the FAA Preliminary
> Accident data yet.
>
> Royal
>
>
> 8:21 PM
>
> 8:21 PM
>
>
> 8:21 PM
>
> 8:21 PM
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Texas to Idaho... was Aircraft Instruments |
John
Thanks for asking and glad Rocky and Denise are there safe. Better hide
your Tequilla with Rocky around!
Sure would like to have come up there. These days we have to stay close
to the homestead to help our daughter take care of 9 month old triplet
boys. Maybe can come up next year.
Take good care of Rocky and Denise. They great folks.
Jimmie
----- Original Message -----
From: jdmcbean
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:50 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Texas to Idaho... was Aircraft Instruments
Hey Jimmie.. How come you didn't come up with Rocky and Denise ??
They're here !!
Do not Archive
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jimmie
Blackwell
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:44 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kitfox-List: Aircraft Instruments
I have several instruments that some of the new builders may need.
All are new and still in the original boxes. If interested email me
direct at jimmieblackwell@austin.rr.com or call me at 512 695-6627. Each
instrument has the appropriate connectors, panel attaching hardware,
sensors and senders.
Following are the instruments:
Dual oil temperature and pressure by Westberg, includes sensors and
sendors.
Cylinder Head temperature by Westberg, includes sendor.
Fuel level by Westberg.
Air Path Compass
Airspeed indicator, 0-120mph, by Airwolf
Altimeter
Prefer to sell them altogether. To buy them from Spruce and Air Wolf
would cost over $800. I will take $500 for all them and pay for
shipping.
Be happy to talk to anyone interested.
Thank you.
Jimmie
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| Subject: | PCAS - Portable Collision Avoidance System |
I am giving some consideration to getting one of the Zaon Flight Systems
PCAS. Was hoping that some of you have experience with this system.
Sure would like to hear opinions/experience with this equipment or
alternate systems.
Thanks
Jimmie
Model IV, Speedster, 912UL
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| Subject: | Re: Primer Fuel Lines / Model II |
Thanks for the answers, and for John's idea of the short stroke primer, I'll check
with Aircraft Spruce.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=131958#131958
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| Subject: | Re: Crash Followup |
Thank God they were not severely hurt. Planes can be repaired or replaced.
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