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1. 02:47 AM - BRS (Christoph Graf)
2. 02:54 AM - Re: BRS (Bob)
3. 07:30 AM - Re: BRS (jdmcbean)
4. 07:34 AM - Re: 121.5 ELT Termination (Joe & Jan Connell)
5. 09:20 AM - Re: 121.5 ELt termination (kitfoxmike)
6. 09:33 AM - Float on landing (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
7. 09:34 AM - Re: Re: 121.5 ELT Termination (Torgeir Mortensen)
8. 09:55 AM - Light-Sport Pilots license (Bob Waldron)
9. 10:07 AM - Re: Light-Sport Pilots license (Rhino)
10. 10:08 AM - Re: Light-Sport Pilots license (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
11. 10:19 AM - Re: 121.5 ELt termination (Rhino)
12. 10:19 AM - Re: Light-Sport Pilots license (Lynn Matteson)
13. 10:44 AM - Re: Light-Sport Pilots license (wingnut)
14. 10:45 AM - bmw (Bill Flick)
15. 11:24 AM - Re: bmw (JC Propellerdesign)
16. 11:36 AM - Re: Light-Sport Pilots license (kitfoxmike)
17. 11:51 AM - Re: 121.5 ELt termination (kitfoxmike)
18. 12:04 PM - Re: 121.5 ELt termination (Rhino)
19. 12:16 PM - Re: Light-Sport Pilots license (wingnut)
20. 12:50 PM - Re: Float on landing (n85ae)
21. 12:58 PM - Re: Re: Float on landing (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
22. 01:32 PM - Re: Float on landing (dave)
23. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: 121.5 ELt termination (John W. Hart)
24. 02:47 PM - Re: Light-Sport Pilots license (kitfoxmike)
25. 03:18 PM - Re: Re: Light-Sport Pilots license (Jimmie Blackwell)
26. 04:25 PM - Re: Light-Sport Pilots license (wingnut)
27. 04:48 PM - Re: Re: Light-Sport Pilots license (Torgeir Mortensen)
28. 07:33 PM - Re: Re: Light-Sport Pilots license (Clint Bazzill)
29. 07:35 PM - Re: Re: Light-Sport Pilots license (Noel Loveys)
30. 07:37 PM - Re: Light-Sport Pilots license (dcsfoto)
31. 07:39 PM - Re: Re: Light-Sport Pilots license (Clint Bazzill)
32. 08:29 PM - Re: RV9-List: Float on landing (Bill Repucci)
33. 09:36 PM - Re: Re: 121.5 ELt termination (Guy Buchanan)
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Dear all
Great list!
Has anyone a guideline how to a install a BRS?
Christoph
KF-IV/1050/582
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Click the "My Airplane" link or call BRS:
http://www.scoobysworkshop.com/
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There are specific instructions for installing the BRS in the IV... They are
different then the later models..
Fly Safe !!
John & Debra McBean
208.337.5111
www.kitfoxaircraft.com
"It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Christoph Graf
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 3:46 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: BRS
Dear all
Great list!
Has anyone a guideline how to a install a BRS?
Christoph
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| Subject: | Re: 121.5 ELT Termination |
I have a Kitfox-II with the current 121.5 MHz ELT.
My wife and I are also building an RV-9A.
I'd like to be able to move a new 406 MHz ELT back and forth between the
aircraft. I understand both the 121.5 and 406 units can use the same
switch box on the instrument panel (marketing literature from ACK
indicates this.)
If the new ELT is registered with the FCC, I wonder if it can reflect
both aircraft. I'm afraid I'm looking at two new ELTs...
Joe Connell
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| Subject: | Re: 121.5 ELt termination |
Like me, I have the same situation. That's why I'm going with the portable unit.
The same unit a mountain climber uses. Much cheaper and it gets put on you.
You keep the 121.5 ELT to satisfy the regs.
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
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| Subject: | Float on landing |
after a lengthy discussion on the Kitfox list regarding float on landing and doing
some testing in my kitfox to determine the efficacy of maintaining 1.3 times
stall speed on approach I decided to try the same thing with the RV9.
I climbed to pattern altitude plus 2000 feet and configured for landing: full flaps
1200 rpm. With this setup I practiced a variety of manuevers that might be
required in landing while maintaining 65IAS. The RV9 was perfectly stable in
all manuevers and indicated 400-450 rate of decent.
With regained confidence I returned to the pattern a proceded to make a couple
of landings. Again holding 65IAS as precisely as possible I had two of the best
landings in a long time. Gone was the hunting for the ground while excess
speed bled off.
Flying can really be a Zen experience.
John Kerr
Logan UT
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<DIV>after a lengthy discussion on the Kitfox list regarding float on landing and
doing some testing in my kitfox to determine the efficacy of maintaining 1.3
times stall speed on approach I decided to try the same thing with the RV9.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I climbed to pattern altitude plus 2000 feet and configured for landing: full
flaps 1200 rpm. With this setup I practiced a variety of manuevers that might
be required in landing while maintaining 65IAS. The RV9 was perfectly
stable in all manuevers and indicated 400-450 rate of decent.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>With regained confidence I returned to the pattern a proceded to make a couple
of landings. Again holding 65IAS as precisely as possible I had two
of the best landings in a long time. Gone was the hunting for the ground
while excess speed bled off. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Flying can really be a Zen experience.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>John Kerr</DIV>
<DIV>Logan UT</DIV>
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| Subject: | Re: 121.5 ELT Termination |
Hi Joe,
the "new standard" the 406 Mhz ELT's, transmit your aircraft ID. One of
the brand (Cannad), have the ID strapping inside the mounting tray or in
the aircraft connector that's connected to the ELT. I.E. when moving the
ELT to the other craft the ID will still be unique for that aircraft.
Just make sure that your selected brand can do that.
A binary number is generated from your aircraft ID, this is the code
that's strapped inside the aircraft connector, your name is registered and
connected directly to this binary number. When an ELT is "chiming",
they'll know the aircraft and who to contact.
Torgeir.
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:33:09 +0200, Joe & Jan Connell
<jconnell@fmwildblue.com> wrote:
> I have a Kitfox-II with the current 121.5 MHz ELT.
> My wife and I are also building an RV-9A.
> I'd like to be able to move a new 406 MHz ELT back and forth between the
> aircraft. I understand both the 121.5 and 406 units can use the same
> switch box on the instrument panel (marketing literature from ACK
> indicates this.)
> If the new ELT is registered with the FCC, I wonder if it can reflect
> both aircraft. I'm afraid I'm looking at two new ELTs...
>
> Joe Connell
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| Subject: | Light-Sport Pilots license |
I have a Kitfox model 3. Someone just contacted me about buying it. They
are pursuing a Light-Sport license.
I don't know the details of the new certification process but would he be
legally qualified to fly the Kitfox?
-Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Light-Sport Pilots license |
skwgn(at)comcast.net wrote:
> I have a Kitfox model 3. Someone just contacted me about buying it. They are
pursuing a Light-Sport license. I dont know the details of the new certification
process but would he be legally qualified to fly the Kitfox? -Bob [b]
There is no certification process needed. If the aircraft qualifies under LSA rules,
he can fly it as a Sport Pilot.
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| Subject: | Light-Sport Pilots license |
Should be no problem, gross weight for SP is 1320 lbs, 100 kts. maximum
speed, two seats. I've had the SP license for 2 years last June, flying
Avid B model and now a Mark IV. Jim Chuk, MK IV Avid
>From: "Bob Waldron" <skwgn@comcast.net>
>To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Light-Sport Pilots license
>Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:55:06 -0600
>
>I have a Kitfox model 3. Someone just contacted me about buying it. They
>are pursuing a Light-Sport license.
>
>I don't know the details of the new certification process but would he be
>legally qualified to fly the Kitfox?
>
>-Bob
>
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| Subject: | Re: 121.5 ELt termination |
kitfoxmike wrote:
> So my problem is, I don't want to spend big bucks to have two planes with a 406
that is certified for the airplane, generally 1500 dollars each.
They're down around $1,000 now, such as the one below, and they will eventually
be going lower. The question is, how low will they go before February of 2009?
http://www.skygeek.com/455-6605.html
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| Subject: | Re: Light-Sport Pilots license |
The term is Sport Pilot License (or Certificate). The "Light Sport"
part pertains to the aircraft in question.
Yes, the Kitfox Model III qualifies as a Light Sport Aircraft, and
can be flown by anyone with a Sport Pilot license/certificate or
higher (Private Pilot, etc) as long as they have been checked out in
that type of plane. This is providing that the plane in question
meets all the rules of the LSA requirements, and someone hasn't
installed a rocket in it. : )
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.....and I know you will. : )
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/400+ hrs
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On Sep 7, 2007, at 12:55 PM, Bob Waldron wrote:
> I have a Kitfox model 3. Someone just contacted me about buying
> it. They are pursuing a Light-Sport license. I dont know the
> details of the new certification process but would he be legally
> qualified to fly the Kitfox? -Bob
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List_-
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| Subject: | Re: Light-Sport Pilots license |
You wouldn't happen to have an "in flight" adjustable IVO propeller? I understand
that this is another way to disqualify an airplane from flying under LSA rules.
> I have a Kitfox model 3. Someone just contacted me about buying it. They are
pursuing a Light-Sport license. I dont know the details of the new certification
process but would he be legally qualified to fly the Kitfox?
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Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)
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kuba;s email was gbam@gazeta,pl not sure if it is still the dame
but give it a try. the guy is really knowledgeable about bmw. bill
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Yes, one is to his work and one home, I never remember witch one is
witch
Jan
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Flick
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 7:45 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: bmw
kuba;s email was gbam@gazeta,pl not sure if it is still the
dame but give it a try. the guy is really knowledgeable about bmw.
bill
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| Subject: | Re: Light-Sport Pilots license |
Even if the airplane has the inflight adjustable, which yes will disqualify, just
route the switch to under the cowling, that way it's no longer inflight adjustable,
has to be adjusted on the ground with the engine off. Now you don't
have an inflight adjustable.
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model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
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| Subject: | Re: 121.5 ELt termination |
I like it. saving the info. thanks
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
enough"
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| Subject: | Re: 121.5 ELt termination |
kitfoxmike wrote:
> So if you want to save some bucks and have a system that WORKS, than buy a portable
406 which is registered under the user, and retain the old ELT system for
satifying the regs. That's my plan anyway.
The plot may be thickening...
> September 5, 2007
>
> NTSB Wants Better ELTs in Aircraft
>
> The FAA should require that all emergency locator transmitters in general aviation
aircraft must be upgraded, the NTSB said (PDF) on Wednesday......
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/NTSB_WantsBetterELTs_196080-1.html
There's more at the link. I didn't want to run afoul of any copyright claims.
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| Subject: | Re: Light-Sport Pilots license |
> Even if the airplane has the inflight adjustable, which yes will disqualify,
just route the switch to under the cowling, that way it's no longer inflight adjustable,
has to be adjusted on the ground with the engine off. Now you don't
have an inflight adjustable.
Hmm. You sure about that? Bellow is a bit of text I copied from a Q&A on the EAA
web site. It looks like the EAA disagrees with you on this point.
Question :
I've found an Avid MKIV which I would like to purchase. Does this aircraft meet
LSA qualifications?
The aircraft has a Warp Drive in flight adjustable prop, will this have to be removed
to meet qualifications?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Answer :
Since the aircraft has an in-flight adjustable propeller it does not meet the LSA
definition. It will not meet the LSA definition even if the propeller is changed,
and thus cannot be made eligible for operation by sport pilots. The LSA
definition requires that the aircraft meet the definition at the time of its
initial certification and continuously thereafter in order to be eligible to be
operated by sport pilots. The aircraft you describe does not meet this criteria.
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Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)
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| Subject: | Re: Float on landing |
The ironic part is that the speed may have nothing to do with the good
landings. It may be entirely because you were very focused, and trying
to be precise is what really did it.
Regards,
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Float on landing |
I know what you mean, but touch down is taking place at about the same speed, the
difference might well be in the time spent at 0+ to 5 feet holding attitude
waiting for excess speed to be disapated.
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> The ironic part is that the speed may have nothing to do with the good
> landings. It may be entirely because you were very focused, and trying
> to be precise is what really did it.
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> Regards,
> Jeff
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<DIV>I know what you mean, but touch down is taking place at about the same speed,
the difference might well be in the time spent at 0+ to 5 feet holding attitude
waiting for excess speed to be disapated.</DIV>
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| Subject: | Re: Float on landing |
John,
A few suggestions-
try putting a camcorder in your plane and/or have someone tape you while doing
a series of circuits in any plane. ( so we can see and learn as well)
Then find a field or runway ( shorter the better and uncontrolled)
eg 2500 foot runway with trees on both ends.
Mark the touchdown spot you are aiming for and try to hit it consistantly 4,5 or
10 times in a row.
try different speeds eg Kitfox - 50 45 40 or what ever your plane flies at 1.2
stall would be a good place to start.
try with flaps the same.
try with power
try deadstick.
Great learning experiences
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
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| Subject: | Re: 121.5 ELt termination |
Sounds reasonable to do what you're doing. However, I got a sneaky
suspicion that The FAR's will probably be revised just about December 2008.
They will somehow manage to cost everybody a bunch of money.
John Hart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kitfoxmike
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 6:22 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 121.5 ELt termination
This is how I understand things. I talked to my local fsdo and was told
that we can not use a 406 portable as our primary. These are around
600dollars. I will be having two airplanes. So my problem is, I don't want
to spend big bucks to have two planes with a 406 that is certified for the
airplane, generally 1500 dollars each. So I asked if I put in the old ELT
system and buy a portable will that work. He said yes it will. So if you
want to save some bucks and have a system that WORKS, than buy a portable
406 which is registered under the user, and retain the old ELT system for
satifying the regs. That's my plan anyway.
--------
kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not
flying enough"
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Light-Sport Pilots license |
THese are experimental. So what is inflight adjustable. Able to adjust while
in flight from the cockpit?
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
enough"
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| Subject: | Re: Light-Sport Pilots license |
I really do not want to start another argument on the subject, but it is
better that we know sport pilot rules. Even if you remove the in flight
adjustable prop a sport pilot cannot legally fly the plane, ever. In order
to meet the requirements for a sport pilot to fly the airplane legally it,
"must have been continuiously maintained throughout the life of the aircraft
with on a ground or fixed pitch prop."
Please do not take my word for it, ask Joe Norris at EAA.
Jimmie
----- Original Message -----
From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 2:14 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Light-Sport Pilots license
>
>
>> Even if the airplane has the inflight adjustable, which yes will
>> disqualify, just route the switch to under the cowling, that way it's no
>> longer inflight adjustable, has to be adjusted on the ground with the
>> engine off. Now you don't have an inflight adjustable.
>
>
> Hmm. You sure about that? Bellow is a bit of text I copied from a Q&A on
> the EAA web site. It looks like the EAA disagrees with you on this point.
>
>
> Question :
> I've found an Avid MKIV which I would like to purchase. Does this aircraft
> meet LSA qualifications?
>
> The aircraft has a Warp Drive in flight adjustable prop, will this have to
> be removed to meet qualifications?
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Answer :
> Since the aircraft has an in-flight adjustable propeller it does not meet
> the LSA definition. It will not meet the LSA definition even if the
> propeller is changed, and thus cannot be made eligible for operation by
> sport pilots. The LSA definition requires that the aircraft meet the
> definition at the time of its initial certification and continuously
> thereafter in order to be eligible to be operated by sport pilots. The
> aircraft you describe does not meet this criteria.
>
> --------
> Luis Rodriguez
> Model IV 1200
> Rotax 912UL
> Flying Weekly
> Laurens, SC (34A)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133277#133277
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Light-Sport Pilots license |
> THese are experimental. So what is inflight adjustable. Able to adjust while
in flight from the cockpit?
I would take "in flight adjustable" to mean tha it can be adjusted while you're
"in flight". Maybe they'll cut you some slack if you had to walk out on the wing
to do it but I wouldn't bet my license on it. :-)
--------
Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)
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| Subject: | Re: Light-Sport Pilots license |
> this is another way to disqualify an airplane from flying under LSA
> rules.
Just forgive them, -if you can, cause they're really don't know what
they're talking about!-
Torgeir --
-just 44 years in the aviation....!
- and flying behind an IVO
Sometimes really get mad.............
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:44:28 +0200, wingnut <wingnut@spamarrest.com> wrote:
>
> You wouldn't happen to have an "in flight" adjustable IVO propeller? I
> understand that this is another way to disqualify an airplane from
> flying under LSA rules.
>
>
>> I have a Kitfox model 3. Someone just contacted me about buying it.
>> They are pursuing a Light-Sport license. I dont know the details of
>> the new certification process but would he be legally qualified to fly
>> the Kitfox?
>
>
> --------
> Luis Rodriguez
> Model IV 1200
> Rotax 912UL
> Flying Weekly
> Laurens, SC (34A)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133259#133259
>
>
--
Torgeir
Kitfox Model II, 1993
Engine: Rotax 532 with B gearbox
Propeller: IVO UL 366Q
Tromsoe
NORWAY.
Weather in Tromso right now:
http://met.no/troms/index.html
City map of Tromso:
http://www.avinor.no/English/Airports/Tromso_Airport/?module=Articles;action=ArticleFolder.publicOpenFolder;ID=1453
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| Subject: | Re: Light-Sport Pilots license |
I have an electric adjustable with the control on the instrument panel. My
plane is licensed for an Ivoprop, nothing about CAP. Have the adjustment
switch in engine compartment for LSA. Clint> Date: Sat8 Sep 2007 01:47:48
+0200> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Light-S
port Pilots license> From: torgemor@online.no> > --> Kitfox-List message po
sted by: "Torgeir Mortensen" <torgemor@online.no>> > > this is another way
to disqualify an airplane from flying under LSA > > rules.> > Just forgive
them, -if you can, cause they're really don't know what > they're talking a
bout!-> > Torgeir --> > -just 44 years in the aviation....!> > - and flying
behind an IVO> > Sometimes really get mad.............> > > > > On Fri, 07
Sep 2007 19:44:28 +0200, wingnut <wingnut@spamarrest.com> wrote:> > > -->
Kitfox-List message posted by: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>> >> > You
wouldn't happen to have an "in flight" adjustable IVO propeller? I > > und
erstand that this is another way to disqualify an airplane from > > flying
under LSA rules.> >> >> >> I have a Kitfox model 3. Someone just contacted
me about buying it. > >> They are pursuing a Light-Sport license. I don
=99t know the details of > >> the new certification process but would he
be legally qualified to fly > >> the Kitfox?> >> >> > --------> > Luis Rod
riguez> > Model IV 1200> > Rotax 912UL> > Flying Weekly> > Laurens, SC (34A
)> >> >> >> >> > Read this topic online here:> >> > http://forums.matronics
.com/viewtopic.php?p=133259#133259> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> -- > Torgeir> > Kitfox Model II, 1993> Engine: Rotax 532 with B gearbox>
Propeller: IVO UL 366Q> > Tromsoe> NORWAY.> > Weather in Tromso right now:>
http://met.no/troms/index.html> > City map of Tromso:> > http://www.avinor
.no/English/Airports/Tromso_Airport/?module=Articles;action=ArticleFold
er.publicOpenFolder;ID=1453> > Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client:
=====================> > >
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| Subject: | Re: Light-Sport Pilots license |
There may be an argument to be made that the prop is not part of the
structure of the plane but an appliance. As such by installing it you
disallow the sport rating on the plane as long as the appliance is attached.
I'll bet making that argument would be expensive and of course iffy as to
whether or not you would win.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Jimmie Blackwell
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 7:48 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Light-Sport Pilots license
>
>
> <JimmieBlackwell@austin.rr.com>
>
> I really do not want to start another argument on the
> subject, but it is
> better that we know sport pilot rules. Even if you remove
> the in flight
> adjustable prop a sport pilot cannot legally fly the plane,
> ever. In order
> to meet the requirements for a sport pilot to fly the
> airplane legally it,
> "must have been continuiously maintained throughout the life
> of the aircraft
> with on a ground or fixed pitch prop."
>
> Please do not take my word for it, ask Joe Norris at EAA.
>
> Jimmie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 2:14 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Light-Sport Pilots license
>
>
> <wingnut@spamarrest.com>
> >
> >
> >> Even if the airplane has the inflight adjustable, which yes will
> >> disqualify, just route the switch to under the cowling,
> that way it's no
> >> longer inflight adjustable, has to be adjusted on the
> ground with the
> >> engine off. Now you don't have an inflight adjustable.
> >
> >
> > Hmm. You sure about that? Bellow is a bit of text I copied
> from a Q&A on
> > the EAA web site. It looks like the EAA disagrees with you
> on this point.
> >
> >
> >
> > Question :
> > I've found an Avid MKIV which I would like to purchase.
> Does this aircraft
> > meet LSA qualifications?
> >
> > The aircraft has a Warp Drive in flight adjustable prop,
> will this have to
> > be removed to meet qualifications?
> >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------
> >
> > Answer :
> > Since the aircraft has an in-flight adjustable propeller it
> does not meet
> > the LSA definition. It will not meet the LSA definition even if the
> > propeller is changed, and thus cannot be made eligible for
> operation by
> > sport pilots. The LSA definition requires that the aircraft
> meet the
> > definition at the time of its initial certification and
> continuously
> > thereafter in order to be eligible to be operated by sport
> pilots. The
> > aircraft you describe does not meet this criteria.
> >
> > --------
> > Luis Rodriguez
> > Model IV 1200
> > Rotax 912UL
> > Flying Weekly
> > Laurens, SC (34A)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133277#133277
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Light-Sport Pilots license |
the FAA has been ask and agrees that putting the switch in a location that can
only be reached on the ground is ok
David
do not arcive
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| Subject: | Re: Light-Sport Pilots license |
AGAIN, CHECK YOUR PAPER WORK. IF IT SAYS PROP IS IVOPROP. AS LONG AS IT D
OESNT SAY IN FLIGHT ADJUSTABLE. CLINT
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Light-Sport Pilots license> From: wingnut@spama
rrest.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:14:03 -0700> To: kitfox-list@matronics.
>> > > > Even if the airplane has the inflight adjustable, which yes will d
isqualify, just route the switch to under the cowling, that way it's no lon
ger inflight adjustable, has to be adjusted on the ground with the engine o
ff. Now you don't have an inflight adjustable. > > > Hmm. You sure about th
at? Bellow is a bit of text I copied from a Q&A on the EAA web site. It loo
ks like the EAA disagrees with you on this point.> > > > Question :> I've f
ound an Avid MKIV which I would like to purchase. Does this aircraft meet L
SA qualifications?> > The aircraft has a Warp Drive in flight adjustable pr
op, will this have to be removed to meet qualifications? > > --------------
------------------------------------------------------------------> > Answe
r :> Since the aircraft has an in-flight adjustable propeller it does not m
eet the LSA definition. It will not meet the LSA definition even if the pro
peller is changed, and thus cannot be made eligible for operation by sport
pilots. The LSA definition requires that the aircraft meet the definition a
t the time of its initial certification and continuously thereafter in orde
r to be eligible to be operated by sport pilots. The aircraft you describe
does not meet this criteria.> > --------> Luis Rodriguez> Model IV 1200> Ro
tax 912UL> Flying Weekly> Laurens, SC (34A)> > > > > Read this topic online
here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133277#133277> > >
==============> > >
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| Subject: | RE: RV9-List: Float on landing |
Just to repeat some of the emails John and I exchanged privately this
morning...
I've been using 65 MPH since my first flight and now with 40 hours I
have not had a problem with that speed. Abeam the numbers, back comes
the power, in goes all the flaps, and with luck, I never have to touch
the throttle again. This assumes John and my AS are calibrated the
same. YMMV. Be careful, if you are trying these lower speeds on your
own.
You can use 60 MPH but that is a bit slow, even by my standards and the
sink rate gets up there. However, in my light (990 lbs) -9 I still have
enough energy to flair. Note, if I was going to try 60 MPH with a -9A,
you might want to be ready with the throttle to help lift the nose a
little. With my tail dragger, that isn't a concern.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv9-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
kerrjohna@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:33 PM
Subject: RV9-List: Float on landing
after a lengthy discussion on the Kitfox list regarding float on landing
and doing some testing in my kitfox to determine the efficacy of
maintaining 1.3 times stall speed on approach I decided to try the same
thing with the RV9.
I climbed to pattern altitude plus 2000 feet and configured for landing:
full flaps 1200 rpm. With this setup I practiced a variety of manuevers
that might be required in landing while maintaining 65IAS. The RV9 was
perfectly stable in all manuevers and indicated 400-450 rate of decent.
With regained confidence I returned to the pattern a proceded to make a
couple of landings. Again holding 65IAS as precisely as possible I had
two of the best landings in a long time. Gone was the hunting for the
ground while excess speed bled off.
Flying can really be a Zen experience.
John Kerr
Logan UT
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| Subject: | Re: 121.5 ELt termination |
At 10:18 AM 9/7/2007, you wrote:
>They're down around $1,000 now, such as the one below, and they will
>eventually be going lower. The question is, how low will they go
>before February of 2009?
As with all digital hardware, you wait until the very last second,
lest they come out with either a drastic improvement of a drastic
price reduction. Of course, if I were buying an ELT now, I guess it
would be a 406. (Although the 121.5 units are probably getting pretty
cheap on the used market right about now.)
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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