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1. 07:06 AM - SW ontario Flyin Sunday (dave)
2. 12:36 PM - Prop Serial Number (John W. Hart)
3. 01:47 PM - New Realtime Spell Checker Added To Matronics Forums! (Matt Dralle)
4. 01:49 PM - Re: Prop Serial Number (Rick)
5. 03:51 PM - firewall penetration (clemwehner)
6. 04:45 PM - Rotax 582 Fuel Burn (Frank Miles)
7. 04:59 PM - Re: Prop Serial Number (john oakley)
8. 05:00 PM - Re: firewall penetration (john oakley)
9. 05:05 PM - Re: firewall penetration (dcsfoto)
10. 05:22 PM - Re: Rotax 582 Fuel Burn (dave)
11. 05:32 PM - Re: firewall penetration (Mdkitfox@aol.com)
12. 06:15 PM - Re: SW ontario Flyin Sunday (Harry Cieslar)
13. 06:48 PM - Re: Rotax 582 Fuel Burn (Mnflyer)
14. 07:07 PM - Re: Re: Rotax 582 Fuel Burn (Frank Miles)
15. 07:43 PM - Re: firewall penetration (Marin Streeter)
16. 08:23 PM - Re: firewall penetration (paul wilson)
17. 10:52 PM - Re: firewall penetration and some (A Smith)
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| Subject: | SW ontario Flyin Sunday |
Might go, WX permitting of course [Rolling Eyes]
September 9, St-Thomas, ON: St.Thomas Flight 75 annual fly-in drive-in breakfast.
8:a.m- 11:00 a.m. Lots of planes,antique cars ,great food and excellent company.
Just $6.00 p.p. Email bassons@execulink.com.
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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| Subject: | Prop Serial Number |
I have a NSI CAP 140 prop on mine. Does anyone know where to find the
serial number on one of these critters. I've searched through all the
paperwork the builder gave me and can't locate the serial number on the
prop, or in the paperwork. It sure would be nice if folks that build
homebuilts listed such things in the logbooks, just in case they decide to
sell at sometime.
John Hart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clint Bazzill
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:33 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Light-Sport Pilots license
I have an electric adjustable with the control on the instrument panel.
My plane is licensed for an Ivoprop, nothing about CAP. Have the adjustment
switch in engine compartment for LSA. Clint
> Date: Sat8 Sep 2007 01:47:48 +0200
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Light-Sport Pilots license
> From: torgemor@online.no
>
<torgemor@online.no>
>
> > this is another way to disqualify an airplane from flying under LSA
> > rules.
>
> Just forgive them, -if you can, cause they're really don't know what
> they're talking about!-
>
> Torgeir --
>
> -just 44 years in the aviation....!
>
> - and flying behind an IVO
>
> Sometimes really get mad.............
>
>
>
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| Subject: | New Realtime Spell Checker Added To Matronics Forums! |
Dear Listers,
Today 9/8/2007 I have added a new real-time spell checker function to all of the
BBS Forums at Matronics. When you reply or create a new message on the Forums,
you will notice that misspelled words will be high-lighted in yellow. If
you left-click on the word, you will be prompted with a drop-down list of suggested
spellings.
http://forums.matronics.com
Enjoy!
Matt Dralle
Matornics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| Subject: | Prop Serial Number |
Serial number of the prop is on a small sticker on one of the blades.
Could have been removed or painted over.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W.
Hart
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 12:36 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Prop Serial Number
I have a NSI CAP 140 prop on mine. Does anyone know where to find the
serial number on one of these critters. I've searched through all the
paperwork the builder gave me and can't locate the serial number on the
prop, or in the paperwork. It sure would be nice if folks that build
homebuilts listed such things in the logbooks, just in case they decide
to sell at sometime.
John Hart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clint
Bazzill
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:33 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Light-Sport Pilots license
I have an electric adjustable with the control on the instrument panel.
My plane is licensed for an Ivoprop, nothing about CAP. Have the
adjustment switch in engine compartment for LSA. Clint
> Date: Sat8 Sep 2007 01:47:48 +0200
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Light-Sport Pilots license
> From: torgemor@online.no
>
<torgemor@online.no>
>
> > this is another way to disqualify an airplane from flying under LSA
> > rules.
>
> Just forgive them, -if you can, cause they're really don't know what
> they're talking about!-
>
> Torgeir --
>
> -just 44 years in the aviation....!
>
> - and flying behind an IVO
>
> Sometimes really get mad.............
>
>
>
"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List"http://www.matronics.com
/Navigator?Kitfox-List
"http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com
4:40 PM
4:40 PM
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| Subject: | firewall penetration |
I'm installing my 912 in a KF IV and have a question that seems really
dumb, but I can't find an answer in anything I've read.
What is the proper way to pass things like wires, hoses, and tubing
through the firewall? Is it through simple rubber grommets, or is there
a special fitting used?
thanks,
Clem Wehner
KFIV-912
Lawton, OK
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| Subject: | Rotax 582 Fuel Burn |
Can anyone tell me what the typical hourly burn should be? I understand that
this will vary with altitude, rpm and so on but just give me an average.
Frank Miles
K-III w/ Rotax 582
3:18 PM
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| Subject: | Prop Serial Number |
John,
The number of the blades should be seen on a sticker near the hub end, the
hub it self you have to pull the hub. It is written in the hub at the
surface.
And yes it should be listed in the logs, in fact as a cap it should have a
log itself. How many hours do you have on the plane?
John Oakley
4 speedster- long and short
912- cap
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Hart
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 1:36 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Prop Serial Number
I have a NSI CAP 140 prop on mine. Does anyone know where to find the
serial number on one of these critters. I've searched through all the
paperwork the builder gave me and can't locate the serial number on the
prop, or in the paperwork. It sure would be nice if folks that build
homebuilts listed such things in the logbooks, just in case they decide to
sell at sometime.
John Hart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clint Bazzill
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:33 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Light-Sport Pilots license
I have an electric adjustable with the control on the instrument panel. My
plane is licensed for an Ivoprop, nothing about CAP. Have the adjustment
switch in engine compartment for LSA. Clint
> Date: Sat8 Sep 2007 01:47:48 +0200
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Light-Sport Pilots license
> From: torgemor@online.no
>
<torgemor@online.no>
>
> > this is another way to disqualify an airplane from flying under LSA
> > rules.
>
> Just forgive them, -if you can, cause they're really don't know what
> they're talking about!-
>
> Torgeir --
>
> -just 44 years in the aviation....!
>
> - and flying behind an IVO
>
> Sometimes really get mad.............
>
>
>
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| Subject: | firewall penetration |
Clem,
For everything except my thermocouple wires, I used computer type 9 and 14
pin connecters.
John Oakley
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of clemwehner
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 4:51 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: firewall penetration
I'm installing my 912 in a KF IV and have a question that seems really dumb,
but I can't find an answer in anything I've read.
What is the proper way to pass things like wires, hoses, and tubing through
the firewall? Is it through simple rubber grommets, or is there a special
fitting used?
thanks,
Clem Wehner
KFIV-912
Lawton, OK
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| Subject: | Re: firewall penetration |
Aircraft spruce has some nice plastic snap bushings,page 94
do not archive
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133528#133528
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 582 Fuel Burn |
582 - 18 to 21 litres per hour at about 6000 rpm is what i get
5600 rpm you might see 16 to 17 litres per hour
this is with stock Bing 54 carbs and stock needles with needle clips on 3rd notch
from the top which I use this time of year.
In winter i will drop the clip one notch which raises the needle and will increase
your fuel burn by 10 - 15% to 20 to 23.5 litres/ hour.
My EGts run in summer 1100 or so and in winter 1150 to 1200 and plugs loks great.
I pitch prop for 6800 wide open straight and level and depending on prop the static
could be 5900 (warp) , 6200 (gsc) to 6500 ( ivo ) plis a few inflight
props i have will more adjustment.
Hope this helps ,
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133530#133530
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| Subject: | Re: firewall penetration |
In a message dated 9/8/2007 6:53:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
clemwehner@sbcglobal.net writes:
What is the proper way to pass things like wires, hoses, and tubing through
the firewall? Is it through simple rubber grommets, or is there a special
fitting used?
It seems to me the firewall must remain intact. If there were a fire, it
could pass thru a plain rubber or plastic grommet. I used the Kitfox firewall
blanket first then inserted a stainless steel eyeball for most pass thru's.
For the rubber and plastic pass thru's I covered them all with high temp RTV.
It may not keep all the fire out, but it would hopefully keep it to a
minimum.
Rick Weiss
Series V Speedster - N39RW, 912S Power
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: SW ontario Flyin Sunday |
Dave: If weather is ok and you have no passenger, I would be happy to
buy your gas and go with you. Harry. Otherwise may see you there.
dave wrote:
>
> Might go, WX permitting of course [Rolling Eyes]
>
> September 9, St-Thomas, ON: St.Thomas Flight 75 annual fly-in drive-in breakfast.
8:a.m- 11:00 a.m. Lots of planes,antique cars ,great food and excellent company.
Just $6.00 p.p. Email bassons@execulink.com.
>
> --------
> Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
> Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
> http://www.cfisher.com/
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133393#133393
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 582 Fuel Burn |
To convert Daves figures to GPH divide by 3.8.
18 litres = 4.74 gallons
21 litres = 5.53 gallons
GB
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GB
MNFlyer
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 582 Fuel Burn |
Dave,
I nope that means somewhere between 4.5 and 5 gallons per hour??
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 5:22 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Rotax 582 Fuel Burn
582 - 18 to 21 litres per hour at about 6000 rpm is what i get
5600 rpm you might see 16 to 17 litres per hour
this is with stock Bing 54 carbs and stock needles with needle clips on 3rd
notch from the top which I use this time of year.
In winter i will drop the clip one notch which raises the needle and will
increase your fuel burn by 10 - 15% to 20 to 23.5 litres/ hour.
My EGts run in summer 1100 or so and in winter 1150 to 1200 and plugs loks
great.
I pitch prop for 6800 wide open straight and level and depending on prop the
static could be 5900 (warp) , 6200 (gsc) to 6500 ( ivo ) plis a few
inflight props i have will more adjustment.
Hope this helps ,
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133530#133530
3:18 PM
3:18 PM
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| Subject: | firewall penetration |
Clem
You should keep your firewall integrity at all times and use hardware
that
will help you maintain it.
Check out Aircraft spruce for fire wall blankest and stainless steel
firewall shields. Try the link bellow. Also talk to the local EAA
chapter
and see if they have any technical advisers.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/ap/firewalls.html
Marin Streeter
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of clemwehner
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 3:51 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: firewall penetration
I'm installing my 912 in a KF IV and have a question that seems really
dumb,
but I can't find an answer in anything I've read.
What is the proper way to pass things like wires, hoses, and tubing
through
the firewall? Is it through simple rubber grommets, or is there a
special
fitting used?
thanks,
Clem Wehner
KFIV-912
Lawton, OK
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| Subject: | firewall penetration |
Special fitting is required. Never use rubber.
As with all things electrical check out the archives of the
aeroelectric list on matronics. This subject has been beat to death.
Another resource are the Bingillis how to do books which are sold by EAA.
Regards, Paul
=======================
>On Behalf Of clemwehner
>Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 3:51 PM
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: firewall penetration
>
>I'm installing my 912 in a KF IV and have a question that seems
>really dumb, but I can't find an answer in anything I've read.
>
>What is the proper way to pass things like wires, hoses, and tubing
>through the firewall? Is it through simple rubber grommets, or is
>there a special fitting used?
>
>thanks,
>
>Clem Wehner
>KFIV-912
>Lawton, OK
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| Subject: | Re: firewall penetration and some |
I have to speak up here and give my opinion. I was in the shoes of the
poor soul that should "god forgive me" ask the "Beat to death" question.
So I did not ask a lot of questions. Wish I did anyway. Would have saved
me a lot. Here is a hint for those wanting to build and those building
that are lurking in the group. Go ahead and ask. We are not that busy
that if it is asked a 1000 times, we won't answer. I will still answer
it, and there are a lot of good people here that do not mind going over
it again.How about school? New students, same questions. Not a problem.
Do not let our completed projects elevate us to a higher level. So ask,
no matter how simple or complex. Questions keep the mind alive, and the
group.
Albert Smith
5TD NSI Turbo, CAP 3blade
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