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     1. 05:40 AM - Re: simple question, hard answer IRON FOR SHRINKING (Lynn Matteson)
     2. 06:19 AM - Re: firewall penetration  (Barry West)
     3. 06:29 AM - Re: simple question, hard answer IRON FOR SHRINKING (Barry West)
     4. 06:35 AM - Re: simple question, hard answer IRON FOR SHRINKING (john oakley)
     5. 09:21 AM - Re: West Desert Fly-In (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
     6. 11:53 AM - Re: firewall penetration (darinh)
     7. 01:22 PM - Re: West Desert Fly-In (kerrjohna@comcast.net)
     8. 04:08 PM - Lowell Fitt Update (Guy Buchanan)
     9. 04:21 PM - Re: West Desert Fly-In (Guy Buchanan)
    10. 04:57 PM - fuel sight tube (Eric)
    11. 07:13 PM - Re: Lowell Fitt Update (Randy Daughenbaugh)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: simple question, hard answer IRON FOR SHRINKING | 
      
      
      B&D S220 worked for me....twice...I dropped the first one after the  
      plane was 1/2 done, and found a second model of the same type.  The  
      calibration took me over 3 hours each time. The bulb type thermometer  
      would not give me the exact upper and lower temps that I wanted to  
      see, so I also included a digital thermometer when I calibrated both  
      my irons. This way I could see exact numbers, and not just a red  
      line, and having to interpolate between rather coarse lines on the  
      bulb type. That said, I found that the iron I mentioned ranged from  
      20-30 degrees all across the temp settings. I calibrated my iron with  
      the same extension cord that I was going to use during the whole  
      covering process, using the same outlet...ok, so I'm anal. :)
      
      It just happened that I calibrated the irons late at night...no  
      mowers or chainsaws in the neighborhood at that hour....when it was  
      quiet, and I could hear the internal switch inside the iron clicking  
      on and off as it reached the ends of the heat range....you need to  
      have the rock and roll turned off to achieve this, I found.
      
      Once you have the numbers written down, it's an easy matter to choose  
      the average temp for that setting and go with it, knowing it will  
      fluctuate (in my case) 10-15 degrees each way from that average.
      
      Lynn Matteson
      Grass Lake, Michigan
      Kitfox IV Speedster  w/Jabiru 2200
      flying w/400+ hrs
      
      
      On Sep 9, 2007, at 4:54 PM, Dave G. wrote:
      
      >
      > I've tried several of the irons available locally and the wife's  
      > old Black and Decker. Is there an iron available most everywhere  
      > (I'm in Canada) that will perform within the alotted temp ranges?  
      > I've found that far from 15 deg, most fluctuate almost 60 deg.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: firewall penetration  | 
      
      Harold, I think your idea of referring to FAA AC 43.13-1b is good but I 
      just reviewed my copy and could not find information on feeding through 
      the firewall.  Can you give me the section and page number where I can 
      find this?
      
      Barry West
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Harold Flynn 
        To: kitfox-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 7:07 AM
        Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: firewall penetration 
      
      
        You should get FAA AC 43.13-1b Aircraft Inspection and Repair Manual. 
      It's the aircraft mechanics Bible. Published by Jeppesen. I think I paid 
      about $20.00 For it. Answered most of my questions when I built my S5. 
      I'm now restoring a J3 cub. Couldn't do it right without this manual.
      
        Barry West <barry@pgtc.com> wrote: 
          I used the screw together electrical fittings that are available 
      from any electrical supply company.  They have rubber stoppers in them 
      that can be split if needed to fit around tubes and wires and are 
      compressed with the outside nut.  They also have a jam nut to firmly 
      attach to the firewall.  This is not a good description but go to a 
      supplier and ask to see the feedthroughs that are used on junction 
      boxes.
      
          Barry West
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: clemwehner 
            To: kitfox-list@matronics.com 
            Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 5:51 PM
            Subject: Kitfox-List: firewall penetration 
      
      
            I'm installing my 912 in a KF IV and have a question that seems 
      really dumb, but I can't find an answer in anything I've read. 
      
            What is the proper way to pass things like wires, hoses, and 
      tubing through the firewall?  Is it through simple rubber grommets, or 
      is there a special fitting used? 
      
            thanks,
      
            Clem Wehner
            KFIV-912
            Lawton, OK
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: simple question, hard answer IRON FOR SHRINKING | 
      
      
      Dave and all, I had the same problem and finally found one that repeated 
      pretty well.  I also have one of the small irons to be used for corners and 
      other tight places and it seems more consistant.  Never the less, I drilled 
      out from the back of the bottom plate and inserted a metal thermometer so I 
      could get constant readings.  Maybe this can be done for some household 
      irons also.
      
      Barry West
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
      Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 3:54 PM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: simple question, hard answer IRON FOR SHRINKING
      
      
      >
      > I've tried several of the irons available locally and the wife's old Black 
      > and Decker. Is there an iron available most everywhere (I'm in Canada) 
      > that will perform within the alotted temp ranges? I've found that far from 
      > 15 deg, most fluctuate almost 60 deg.
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | simple question, hard answer IRON FOR SHRINKING | 
      
      
      The hobby industry has a spring type thermometer used to calibrate the
      irons. I believe it is made by monokote.
      
      John Oakley
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: West Desert Fly-In | 
      
      Guy, working on putting together a flight of 4 from KLGU for Saturday morning.
      We will probably fly up the back(east) side of the Wasatch range to avoid the
      Class B then west over Provo to Fairfield.  Hope to see you there.
      
      John Kerr
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> 
      
      > 
      > All, 
      > A bunch of Kitfoxes and friends will be congregating at the 
      > West Desert Fly-in south of Salt Lake City this coming weekend. It 
      > looks like fun but of course, the more the merrier. I hope to see you there.
      
      > 
      > Information is at: www.rmkplanes.com/Flyin.html 
      > 
      > 
      > Guy Buchanan 
      > San Diego, CA 
      > K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
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      <DIV>Guy, working on putting together a flight of 4 from KLGU for Saturday morning. 
      We will probably fly up the back(east) side of the Wasatch range to
      avoid the Class B then west over Provo to Fairfield.  Hope to see you there.</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>John Kerr</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
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| Subject:  | Re: firewall penetration | 
      
      
      My firewall for my Series 7 came with a number of holes in it for wires, cables,
      etc.  My main question is with the heater.  This thing mounts right behind the
      firewall with the supply and return fittings passing through.  What have people
      done in this situation for fireproofing?
      
      --------
      Darin Hawkes
      Series 7 (under Construction)
      914 Turbo
      Ogden, Utah
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133777#133777
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: West Desert Fly-In | 
      
      Guy, I have not been able to locate an identifier for the West Desert Air Park.
      Do you have something that will help us?
      
      John Kerr
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com> 
      
      > 
      > All, 
      > A bunch of Kitfoxes and friends will be congregating at the 
      > West Desert Fly-in south of Salt Lake City this coming weekend. It 
      > looks like fun but of course, the more the merrier. I hope to see you there.
      
      > 
      > Information is at: www.rmkplanes.com/Flyin.html 
      > 
      > 
      > Guy Buchanan 
      > San Diego, CA 
      > K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      <html><body>
      <DIV>Guy, I have not been able to locate an identifier for the West Desert Air
      Park.  Do you have something that will help us?</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>John Kerr</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
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| Subject:  | Lowell Fitt Update | 
      
      
      All,
               I spoke briefly with Kay today. She's at home now under the 
      care of her daughter-in-law. She fractured a neck vertebrae and her 
      right thumb and had surgery for a puncture wound to her leg. The good 
      news is she's getting by with a neck brace and is otherwise fully functional.
               I won't get into the gory details, (I'll leave that for 
      Lowell,) but he had a bad week last week as his digestive system shut 
      down. Apparently they changed his oil, bled the system, propped him a 
      bunch of times and got him re-started on Friday. He's apparently 
      getting much better and will be returning home tomorrow. He's in a 
      body brace because of a split disk in his lower spine so he won't be 
      very active for a while. (Not to mention the damage to his foot/ankle.)
               Kay thanks you all for your concerns and kind wishes. (She's 
      been looking at the list traffic.) She said she and Lowell are 
      receiving excellent care and are in need of nothing but time to mend.
      
      
      Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator
      San Diego, CA
      K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: West Desert Fly-In | 
      
      
      At 01:22 PM 9/10/2007, you wrote:
      >Guy, I have not been able to locate an identifier for the West 
      >Desert Air Park.  Do you have something that will help us?
      
      The identifier is UT99. AirNav has it but under a different name. 
      (UT99 is the correct identifier, though.) Check the web address 
      www.rmkplanes.com/Flyin.html for additional information.
      
      
      Guy Buchanan
      San Diego, CA
      K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. 
      
      
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      When I built my wings I used yellow Tygon for fuel sight tubing. Finally 
      got to put some gas in the tanks. After about three weeks the tubing 
      discolored dark brown. Is there a better material to use that will not 
      discolor?
      Thanks in advance 
      Eric  N58EW   Mod. IV Speedster
      
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| Subject:  | Lowell Fitt Update | 
      
      
      Thanks Guy.   We are all waiting to hear from Lowell.  
      
      
      Randy
      
      .           
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan
      Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 4:59 PM
      Subject: Kitfox-List: Lowell Fitt Update
      
      
      All,
               I spoke briefly with Kay today. She's at home now under the 
      care of her daughter-in-law. She fractured a neck vertebrae and her 
      right thumb and had surgery for a puncture wound to her leg. The good 
      news is she's getting by with a neck brace and is otherwise fully
      functional.
               I won't get into the gory details, (I'll leave that for 
      Lowell,) but he had a bad week last week as his digestive system shut 
      down. Apparently they changed his oil, bled the system, propped him a 
      bunch of times and got him re-started on Friday. He's apparently 
      getting much better and will be returning home tomorrow. He's in a 
      body brace because of a split disk in his lower spine so he won't be 
      very active for a while. (Not to mention the damage to his foot/ankle.)
               Kay thanks you all for your concerns and kind wishes. (She's 
      been looking at the list traffic.) She said she and Lowell are 
      receiving excellent care and are in need of nothing but time to mend.
      
      
      Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator
      San Diego, CA
      K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. 
      
      
 
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