---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/10/07: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:40 AM - Re: simple question, hard answer IRON FOR SHRINKING (Lynn Matteson) 2. 06:19 AM - Re: firewall penetration (Barry West) 3. 06:29 AM - Re: simple question, hard answer IRON FOR SHRINKING (Barry West) 4. 06:35 AM - Re: simple question, hard answer IRON FOR SHRINKING (john oakley) 5. 09:21 AM - Re: West Desert Fly-In (kerrjohna@comcast.net) 6. 11:53 AM - Re: firewall penetration (darinh) 7. 01:22 PM - Re: West Desert Fly-In (kerrjohna@comcast.net) 8. 04:08 PM - Lowell Fitt Update (Guy Buchanan) 9. 04:21 PM - Re: West Desert Fly-In (Guy Buchanan) 10. 04:57 PM - fuel sight tube (Eric) 11. 07:13 PM - Re: Lowell Fitt Update (Randy Daughenbaugh) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:12 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: simple question, hard answer IRON FOR SHRINKING B&D S220 worked for me....twice...I dropped the first one after the plane was 1/2 done, and found a second model of the same type. The calibration took me over 3 hours each time. The bulb type thermometer would not give me the exact upper and lower temps that I wanted to see, so I also included a digital thermometer when I calibrated both my irons. This way I could see exact numbers, and not just a red line, and having to interpolate between rather coarse lines on the bulb type. That said, I found that the iron I mentioned ranged from 20-30 degrees all across the temp settings. I calibrated my iron with the same extension cord that I was going to use during the whole covering process, using the same outlet...ok, so I'm anal. :) It just happened that I calibrated the irons late at night...no mowers or chainsaws in the neighborhood at that hour....when it was quiet, and I could hear the internal switch inside the iron clicking on and off as it reached the ends of the heat range....you need to have the rock and roll turned off to achieve this, I found. Once you have the numbers written down, it's an easy matter to choose the average temp for that setting and go with it, knowing it will fluctuate (in my case) 10-15 degrees each way from that average. Lynn Matteson Grass Lake, Michigan Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 flying w/400+ hrs On Sep 9, 2007, at 4:54 PM, Dave G. wrote: > > I've tried several of the irons available locally and the wife's > old Black and Decker. Is there an iron available most everywhere > (I'm in Canada) that will perform within the alotted temp ranges? > I've found that far from 15 deg, most fluctuate almost 60 deg. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:47 AM PST US From: "Barry West" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: firewall penetration Harold, I think your idea of referring to FAA AC 43.13-1b is good but I just reviewed my copy and could not find information on feeding through the firewall. Can you give me the section and page number where I can find this? Barry West ----- Original Message ----- From: Harold Flynn To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 7:07 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: firewall penetration You should get FAA AC 43.13-1b Aircraft Inspection and Repair Manual. It's the aircraft mechanics Bible. Published by Jeppesen. I think I paid about $20.00 For it. Answered most of my questions when I built my S5. I'm now restoring a J3 cub. Couldn't do it right without this manual. Barry West wrote: I used the screw together electrical fittings that are available from any electrical supply company. They have rubber stoppers in them that can be split if needed to fit around tubes and wires and are compressed with the outside nut. They also have a jam nut to firmly attach to the firewall. This is not a good description but go to a supplier and ask to see the feedthroughs that are used on junction boxes. Barry West ----- Original Message ----- From: clemwehner To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 5:51 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: firewall penetration I'm installing my 912 in a KF IV and have a question that seems really dumb, but I can't find an answer in anything I've read. What is the proper way to pass things like wires, hoses, and tubing through the firewall? Is it through simple rubber grommets, or is there a special fitting used? thanks, Clem Wehner KFIV-912 Lawton, OK ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:10 AM PST US From: "Barry West" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: simple question, hard answer IRON FOR SHRINKING Dave and all, I had the same problem and finally found one that repeated pretty well. I also have one of the small irons to be used for corners and other tight places and it seems more consistant. Never the less, I drilled out from the back of the bottom plate and inserted a metal thermometer so I could get constant readings. Maybe this can be done for some household irons also. Barry West ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 3:54 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: simple question, hard answer IRON FOR SHRINKING > > I've tried several of the irons available locally and the wife's old Black > and Decker. Is there an iron available most everywhere (I'm in Canada) > that will perform within the alotted temp ranges? I've found that far from > 15 deg, most fluctuate almost 60 deg. > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:35:29 AM PST US From: "john oakley" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: simple question, hard answer IRON FOR SHRINKING The hobby industry has a spring type thermometer used to calibrate the irons. I believe it is made by monokote. John Oakley ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:25 AM PST US From: kerrjohna@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: West Desert Fly-In Guy, working on putting together a flight of 4 from KLGU for Saturday morning. We will probably fly up the back(east) side of the Wasatch range to avoid the Class B then west over Provo to Fairfield. Hope to see you there. John Kerr -------------- Original message -------------- From: Guy Buchanan > > All, > A bunch of Kitfoxes and friends will be congregating at the > West Desert Fly-in south of Salt Lake City this coming weekend. It > looks like fun but of course, the more the merrier. I hope to see you there. > > Information is at: www.rmkplanes.com/Flyin.html > > > Guy Buchanan > San Diego, CA > K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. > > > > > >
Guy, working on putting together a flight of 4 from KLGU for Saturday morning.  We will probably fly up the back(east) side of the Wasatch range to avoid the Class B then west over Provo to Fairfield.  Hope to see you there.
 
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________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:53:46 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: firewall penetration From: "darinh" My firewall for my Series 7 came with a number of holes in it for wires, cables, etc. My main question is with the heater. This thing mounts right behind the firewall with the supply and return fittings passing through. What have people done in this situation for fireproofing? -------- Darin Hawkes Series 7 (under Construction) 914 Turbo Ogden, Utah Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133777#133777 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:22:44 PM PST US From: kerrjohna@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: West Desert Fly-In Guy, I have not been able to locate an identifier for the West Desert Air Park. Do you have something that will help us? John Kerr -------------- Original message -------------- From: Guy Buchanan > > All, > A bunch of Kitfoxes and friends will be congregating at the > West Desert Fly-in south of Salt Lake City this coming weekend. It > looks like fun but of course, the more the merrier. I hope to see you there. > > Information is at: www.rmkplanes.com/Flyin.html > > > Guy Buchanan > San Diego, CA > K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. > > > > > >
Guy, I have not been able to locate an identifier for the West Desert Air Park.  Do you have something that will help us?
 
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________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:08:54 PM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Kitfox-List: Lowell Fitt Update All, I spoke briefly with Kay today. She's at home now under the care of her daughter-in-law. She fractured a neck vertebrae and her right thumb and had surgery for a puncture wound to her leg. The good news is she's getting by with a neck brace and is otherwise fully functional. I won't get into the gory details, (I'll leave that for Lowell,) but he had a bad week last week as his digestive system shut down. Apparently they changed his oil, bled the system, propped him a bunch of times and got him re-started on Friday. He's apparently getting much better and will be returning home tomorrow. He's in a body brace because of a split disk in his lower spine so he won't be very active for a while. (Not to mention the damage to his foot/ankle.) Kay thanks you all for your concerns and kind wishes. (She's been looking at the list traffic.) She said she and Lowell are receiving excellent care and are in need of nothing but time to mend. Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:21:39 PM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: West Desert Fly-In At 01:22 PM 9/10/2007, you wrote: >Guy, I have not been able to locate an identifier for the West >Desert Air Park. Do you have something that will help us? The identifier is UT99. AirNav has it but under a different name. (UT99 is the correct identifier, though.) Check the web address www.rmkplanes.com/Flyin.html for additional information. Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:57:58 PM PST US From: "Eric" Subject: Kitfox-List: fuel sight tube When I built my wings I used yellow Tygon for fuel sight tubing. Finally got to put some gas in the tanks. After about three weeks the tubing discolored dark brown. Is there a better material to use that will not discolor? Thanks in advance Eric N58EW Mod. IV Speedster ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:18 PM PST US From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Lowell Fitt Update Thanks Guy. We are all waiting to hear from Lowell. Randy . -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 4:59 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Lowell Fitt Update All, I spoke briefly with Kay today. She's at home now under the care of her daughter-in-law. She fractured a neck vertebrae and her right thumb and had surgery for a puncture wound to her leg. The good news is she's getting by with a neck brace and is otherwise fully functional. I won't get into the gory details, (I'll leave that for Lowell,) but he had a bad week last week as his digestive system shut down. Apparently they changed his oil, bled the system, propped him a bunch of times and got him re-started on Friday. He's apparently getting much better and will be returning home tomorrow. He's in a body brace because of a split disk in his lower spine so he won't be very active for a while. (Not to mention the damage to his foot/ankle.) Kay thanks you all for your concerns and kind wishes. (She's been looking at the list traffic.) She said she and Lowell are receiving excellent care and are in need of nothing but time to mend. Guy Buchanan, Kitfox List Moderator San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.