---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 09/23/07: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:33 AM - Re: Re: 3 leaf tail spring. Bolt size (Michel Verheughe) 2. 05:04 AM - Re: Re: East Coast Kitfox Gathering! (RAY Gignac) 3. 05:34 AM - Re: Re: 3 leaf tail spring. Bolt size (Lynn Matteson) 4. 09:36 AM - Re: 3 leaf tail spring. Bolt size (dave) 5. 10:23 AM - Re: Re: East Coast Kitfox Gathering! (Glenn Horne) 6. 10:44 AM - Re: East Coast Kitfox Gathering! (Michael Gibbs) 7. 12:12 PM - Re: Re: East Coast Kitfox Gathering! (Glenn Horne) 8. 01:54 PM - SV: Re: 3 leaf tail spring. Bolt size (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?=) 9. 04:15 PM - KITFOX FOR SALEi (Jim Burke) 10. 04:36 PM - External Alternator for 912S on Model 7? (CDE2fly@AOL.COM) 11. 05:09 PM - Re: External Alternator for 912S on Model 7? (RAY Gignac) 12. 05:47 PM - Re: East Coast Kitfox Gathering! (pilotpat) 13. 06:15 PM - Re: External Alternator for 912S on Model 7? (Dennis Golden) 14. 07:46 PM - Re: External Alternator for 912S on Model 7? (dcsfoto) 15. 08:14 PM - Re: Re: New float flying vid (Paul Seehafer) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:01 AM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: 3 leaf tail spring. Bolt size On Sep 23, 2007, at 4:12 AM, Tom Jones wrote: > If you are installing 2 main leaves plus a helper leaf you probably > should add 2 (1/4 inch) to each of the above AN dash numbers. Yes, you will have to do that, Geir. And the bad news is: the main bolt is - as I understand it - glued inside the fuselage and you will need to heat it for removal. Med vennlig hilsen, Michel Verheughe Norway Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:49 AM PST US From: "RAY Gignac" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: East Coast Kitfox Gathering! Here is my cell 301-520-3171 call me anytime. Been to Campbell once, nice grass roots field! great folks to. Ray >From: "wingnut" >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: East Coast Kitfox Gathering! >Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:40:15 -0700 > > >Follow the this link to see the Campbell airfield on the Washington DC >chart: > >http://skyvector.com/#25-23-3-2715-2468 > >I was also hoping to get a group picture at the Wright Monument at 3pm. I'm >entertaining taking the group picture and making a few coffee mugs as a >souvenir for everyone who comes. Maybe a picture of your Kitfox on the >other side? > > > > I live just cross the Carolina Virginia State line but I don't > > know where Campbell Airfield is. Can some one tell me? > > >-------- >Luis Rodriguez >Model IV 1200 >Rotax 912UL >Flying Weekly >Laurens, SC (34A) > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135831#135831 > > _________________________________________________________________ More photos; more messages; more whatever. Windows Live Hotmail - NOW with 5GB storage. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:53 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: 3 leaf tail spring. Bolt size Depending on how the original builder built the plane, this bolt may or may not be glued in place. In building mine I glued (structural adhesive...Hysol 9460) the bolt in place, and when I needed to remove it for the thicker spring/longer bolt, it was a simple matter to shield the fabric with a metal plate with a hole drilled in it, then heat the bolt on the threads. The heat will travel up the bolt, soften the adhesive and allow the bolt to be pushed up into the fuselage. I have an inspection hole nearby to facilitate work done in this area. If you don't have this hole, I think you'll have to remove the hort. stab to reach the area....maybe not. Lynn Matteson Grass Lake, Michigan Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 flying w/400+ hrs On Sep 23, 2007, at 3:32 AM, Michel Verheughe wrote: > > On Sep 23, 2007, at 4:12 AM, Tom Jones wrote: >> If you are installing 2 main leaves plus a helper leaf you >> probably should add 2 (1/4 inch) to each of the above AN dash >> numbers. > > Yes, you will have to do that, Geir. And the bad news is: the main > bolt is - as I understand it - glued inside the fuselage and you > will need to heat it for removal. > > Med vennlig hilsen, > Michel Verheughe > Norway > Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:36:50 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 3 leaf tail spring. Bolt size From: "dave" Geir, I changed mine to a 3 leaf recently and used the existing 5/16" bolt without an issue. As long ass you got close to 1/4" extra bolt you should be ok. I had a spacer between the fuselage and the old spring and I removed it. The 7/16 bolt on tailwheel will likely be too short as it now goes through 2 leaves rather than one. I took off the washer and used it anyhow but the bolt is not through the self locking nut far enough. Thanks for the reminder to replace it before it falls off :) -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135900#135900 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:23:52 AM PST US From: "Glenn Horne" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: East Coast Kitfox Gathering! Sorry i can't fine Cmpbell Airfield. Ben here all my life (73) years and never heard of Campbell Airfield. GLENN HORNE Kitfox Model II ----- Original Message ----- From: "wingnut" Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 10:40 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: East Coast Kitfox Gathering! > > Follow the this link to see the Campbell airfield on the Washington DC > chart: > > http://skyvector.com/#25-23-3-2715-2468 > > I was also hoping to get a group picture at the Wright Monument at 3pm. > I'm entertaining taking the group picture and making a few coffee mugs as > a souvenir for everyone who comes. Maybe a picture of your Kitfox on the > other side? > > >> I live just cross the Carolina Virginia State line but I don't >> know where Campbell Airfield is. Can some one tell me? > > > -------- > Luis Rodriguez > Model IV 1200 > Rotax 912UL > Flying Weekly > Laurens, SC (34A) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135831#135831 > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:44:22 AM PST US From: Michael Gibbs Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: East Coast Kitfox Gathering! Glenn sez: >Sorry i can't fine Cmpbell Airfield. Ben here all my life (73) years and >never heard of Campbell Airfield. Looks like it is 9VG in Weirwood, VA northeast of Norfolk, on the 050 radial of the Cape Charles (CCV) VOR. Mike G. N728KF Phoenix, AZ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:17 PM PST US From: "Glenn Horne" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: East Coast Kitfox Gathering! OK 9VG . Will look it up. GLENN HORNE Kitfox Model II ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Gibbs" Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:43 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: East Coast Kitfox Gathering! > > Glenn sez: > >>Sorry i can't fine Cmpbell Airfield. Ben here all my life (73) years and >>never heard of Campbell Airfield. > > Looks like it is 9VG in Weirwood, VA northeast of Norfolk, on the 050 > radial of the Cape Charles (CCV) VOR. > > Mike G. > N728KF > Phoenix, AZ > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:54:18 PM PST US From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Geir_Olav_=D8ien?= Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: Re: 3 leaf tail spring. Bolt size I built the plane, and i made a inspection hole close to the tail spring bolt. I did not glue the bolt in place, only used mastinox on it (anti corrosive). So it is no problem to remove and get access to the bolt. Thanks for the tips. Geir Olav ien Kitfox IV Jabiru 2200 -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] P vegne av Lynn Matteson Sendt: 23. september 2007 14:36 Til: kitfox-list@matronics.com Emne: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: 3 leaf tail spring. Bolt size Depending on how the original builder built the plane, this bolt may or may not be glued in place. In building mine I glued (structural adhesive...Hysol 9460) the bolt in place, and when I needed to remove it for the thicker spring/longer bolt, it was a simple matter to shield the fabric with a metal plate with a hole drilled in it, then heat the bolt on the threads. The heat will travel up the bolt, soften the adhesive and allow the bolt to be pushed up into the fuselage. I have an inspection hole nearby to facilitate work done in this area. If you don't have this hole, I think you'll have to remove the hort. stab to reach the area....maybe not. Lynn Matteson Grass Lake, Michigan Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 flying w/400+ hrs On Sep 23, 2007, at 3:32 AM, Michel Verheughe wrote: > > On Sep 23, 2007, at 4:12 AM, Tom Jones wrote: >> If you are installing 2 main leaves plus a helper leaf you >> probably should add 2 (1/4 inch) to each of the above AN dash >> numbers. > > Yes, you will have to do that, Geir. And the bad news is: the main > bolt is - as I understand it - glued inside the fuselage and you > will need to heat it for removal. > > Med vennlig hilsen, > Michel Verheughe > Norway > Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:15:30 PM PST US From: "Jim Burke" Subject: Kitfox-List: KITFOX FOR SALEi HELLO TO KITFOX LIST MEMBERS, FIRST OF ALL I;D LIKE TO SAY JIM HAS ENJOYED ALL THE VALUABLE INFORMATION ,AND FUN HE HAS HAD CHATTING BACK AND FORTH WITH ALL OF YOU. LAST JUNE JIM SUFFERED A VERY SERIOUS STROKE. WHILE HE HAS IMPROVED A LOT SINCE THAT TIME HE STILL HAS SOME MAJOR HEALTH PROBLEMS. HE IS UNABLE TO USE HIS LEFT ARM OR HAND. HE CAN WALK A LITTLE WITH THE AID OF A BRACE AND QUAD CANE FOR HIS LEFT LEG, AND HIS VISION WAS SEVERELY DAMAGED. NEEDLESS TO SAY THIS HAS BEEN A VERY DIFFICULT YEAR FOR ALL OF US BOTH PHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY. WE HAVE GIVE IT A LOT OF THOUGHT AND FINALLY DECIDED IT IS TIME TO SELL JIM;S KITFOX SINCE HIS HEALTH NO LONGER PERMITS HIS FLYING. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS WAS A VERY HARD DECISION FOR HIM BECAUSE AS WITH ALL OF YOU I;M SURE FLYING WAS HIS PASSI ON. HIS KITFOX IS A MODEL 4-1200. IT IS WHITE AND RED,IT HAS THE BUNGE CORD MAIN GEAR,A 582 ROTAX ENGINE,THE ENTIRE PLANE HAS LESS THAN 400 HRS. ON IT. IT IS IN EXCELLENT CONDITION,AND NO DAMAGE. FOR SERIOUS ENQUIRIES YOU MAY CALL AREA CODE 812-597-0901. THE PLANE IS NOW AT A PRIVATE AIR STRIP(9IN7) THANKS IN ADVANCE ASKING PRICE IS $24,000.00 JAMES AND VICKIE BURKE ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:36:21 PM PST US From: CDE2fly@AOL.COM Subject: Kitfox-List: External Alternator for 912S on Model 7? Does anyone on the board have experience with the Rotax external alternator and the 912S/Model 7 combination? I'm nearing the completion of Kitfox 7 and will need more electrical power than is available with the internal alternator. I'm wondering if the alternator will fit under the cowl. Thanks for the help, Chris ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:09:56 PM PST US From: "RAY Gignac" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: External Alternator for 912S on Model 7? I have one on my model IV! if you need one, I now a company in Canada that offers one at a decent price. Ray >From: CDE2fly@aol.com >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kitfox-List: External Alternator for 912S on Model 7? >Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:34:35 EDT > >Does anyone on the board have experience with the Rotax external alternator >and the 912S/Model 7 combination? I'm nearing the completion of Kitfox 7 >and >will need more electrical power than is available with the internal >alternator. I'm wondering if the alternator will fit under the cowl. > >Thanks for the help, > >Chris > > _________________________________________________________________ Discover sweet stuff waiting for you at the Messenger Cafe. Claim your treat today! http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_SeptHMtagline2 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:47:14 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: East Coast Kitfox Gathering! From: "pilotpat" theres a few of us kitfoxers here in PA and would love to make the trip but no can do this time. but following your info and did see a real nice web site to campbell field. here is the link http://www.campbellfieldairport.com/ Looks really nice and will make plans to get there sooner or later. Have a great trip and keep us posted do not archive -------- Pilotpat Kitfox Classic IV Jabiru 2200 Williamsport , PA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135992#135992 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:15:14 PM PST US From: Dennis Golden Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: External Alternator for 912S on Model 7? RAY Gignac wrote: > > I have one on my model IV! if you need one, I now a company in Canada > that offers one at a decent price. > > Ray Is that with the round cowl? >> Does anyone on the board have experience with the Rotax external >> alternator >> and the 912S/Model 7 combination? I'm nearing the completion of >> Kitfox 7 and >> will need more electrical power than is available with the internal >> alternator. I'm wondering if the alternator will fit under the cowl. -- Dennis Golden Golden Consulting Services, Inc. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:33 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: External Alternator for 912S on Model 7? From: "dcsfoto" just put one on my M 7 ,fits under cowl no problem but needs some trimming of the flange area to clear the pulley. contact me off line for photos will have cowl back from paint next week david@kelm.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136023#136023 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:14:56 PM PST US From: "Paul Seehafer" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: New float flying vid Hi Leonard, I was so desparate to see your video I watched it on someone elses pc this weekend (smile), so I don't need you to burn a DVD. Nice video. Does a good job showing where the full lotus floats are really nice to have. That little 582 Kitfox also looks to perform pretty good from what I could tell by your video. You'd like the 912. Paul Seehafer ----- Original Message ----- From: "akflyer" Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 12:06 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: New float flying vid > > if you want a DVD PM me your addy..I have lots of real nice Alaska scenery > and flying, it would be nothing to burn to DVD.. > AS much as I hate the thought of spending the money on it.. I may have to > seriously look for a 912.. good deal on 3 of them on Ebay right now.. > > -------- > Leonard Perry > Soldotna AK > Avid "C" / Mk IV > 582 IVO IFA > Full Lotus 1260 > 95% complete > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135661#135661 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.