---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/27/07: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:20 AM - fantastic Oil Claims (W & R Beck) 2. 09:38 AM - Re: low oil pressure (eskflyer) 3. 10:43 AM - Re: External Alternator for 912S on Model 7? (JUSTPDC@AOL.COM) 4. 12:19 PM - Re: Tailwheel bolt went off.... and the rest (Zimmermans) 5. 12:20 PM - Re: Tailwheel bolt went off.... and the rest (Zimmermans) 6. 01:31 PM - aquamaster floats ??? (akflyer) 7. 02:10 PM - Re: Tailwheel bolt went off.... and the rest (Michel Dierick) 8. 03:13 PM - Re: fantastic Oil Claims (dcsfoto) 9. 04:19 PM - Re: Spam: aquamaster floats ??? (John W. Hart) 10. 04:27 PM - Re: Spam: aquamaster floats ??? (akflyer) 11. 06:01 PM - Re: Update on Lowell Fitt (stuart.jr) 12. 07:40 PM - Re: (Andy Fultz) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:20:08 AM PST US From: "W & R Beck" Subject: Kitfox-List: fantastic Oil Claims I don't wish to start a debate, either, but those fantastic claims are, in general, just that. The demonstrations (I have seen one) are as the promoters claim, except for the one thing they do not tell you, that there is oil mixed in with the gasoline -maybe even 2-stroke oil- that permits the engines to run for quite a while without seizing up. Just as a 2-stroke runs indefinitely without any in-engine oil supply. The trick is really quite simple, and worthy of Barnum & Bailey, any good snake oil salesman, or diet promoter. The next time you see a demo at an auto show/flea market, ask the promoter to do it with his own vehicle. Robert Beck do not archive >> This incident makes me wonder about the fantastic claims of some oil > additives that show engines running with the drain plug removed and zero > oil pressure for long periods. Prolong is a brand that comes to mind. > > I'm not wanting to start a oil debate, really. Just wondering if it would > have worked. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:38:20 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: low oil pressure From: "eskflyer" Excellent reading. Thanks maybe it will help prevent future accidents . -------- FLY FUN FLY LOW FLY SLOW John Perry Kitfox 2 N718PD 582 cbox 2:62-1 IVO IFA WHEELS NorthAire Floats Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136799#136799 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:39 AM PST US From: JUSTPDC@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: External Alternator for 912S on Model 7? Would you please give us the name of that company and the web site if they have one. thanks, Paul cannon lite squared 912S still building ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:19:06 PM PST US From: "Zimmermans" Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Tailwheel bolt went off.... and the rest ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:29 PM PST US From: "Zimmermans" Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Tailwheel bolt went off.... and the rest The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: IMG_0255 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:31:46 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: aquamaster floats ??? From: "akflyer" I buddy just called and asked if I knew anything about aquamaster floats. He said the guy he got them from said they were for a Kitfox. My buddy just picked up a KF mod I from a guy in CA and is having it shipped up here. I did a quick google searched and cant find anything on these floats. If anyone has any info on them please let me know. This set is 12' long. I am looking for buoyancy info if at all possible. Thanks -------- Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid "C" / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136859#136859 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:10:57 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Tailwheel bolt went off.... and the rest From: "Michel Dierick" I asked the previous owner. The aircraft has been previously repaired after a former bolt rupture. It looks like it hasn't been repaired very properly. I'll see this weekend with a mecanic. Jazeem The paint on your tail section surely looks waaay better than on mine. :) :) Greetz -------- Flying, yes, but fly safely Michel "TheDailyFly" Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136866#136866 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:13:54 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: fantastic Oil Claims From: "dcsfoto" Many years ago a friend of mine ran a C210 in solid IFR for almost an hour with no oil pressure. He had used Microlan. wish we could use in the 912, but I think it will damage the clutch in the gearbox. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136881#136881 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:19:59 PM PST US From: "John W. Hart" Subject: RE: Spam: Kitfox-List: aquamaster floats ??? Here's a URL for Aqua Floats. http://www.aquafloat.com/ Could the "Master" part of the name be one of their designations for a particular series of their floats? I remember flying a C-180 on Aqua floats in SE Alaska in 1969. Seems the floats were OK, but a bit boxy looking compared with the Edo brand, as I recall. John Hart -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of akflyer Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 3:30 PM Subject: Spam: Kitfox-List: aquamaster floats ??? I buddy just called and asked if I knew anything about aquamaster floats. He said the guy he got them from said they were for a Kitfox. My buddy just picked up a KF mod I from a guy in CA and is having it shipped up here. I did a quick google searched and cant find anything on these floats. If anyone has any info on them please let me know. This set is 12' long. I am looking for buoyancy info if at all possible. Thanks -------- Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid "C" / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136859#136859 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:27:01 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Spam: aquamaster floats ??? From: "akflyer" I will have pics this evening, but these are a fiberglass float, the aquas are aluminum. -------- Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid "C" / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136894#136894 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:01:06 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Update on Lowell Fitt From: "stuart.jr" Please verify address.. is it tstuart(at)icehouse.net? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136908#136908 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:40:23 PM PST US From: "Andy Fultz" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: What assembly was the possible broken bolt holding together? Inquiring minds want to know. Andy F. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of MA Stanard Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:51 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Hello all fellow foxers, After all the posts about tail wheel trouble I feel obligated to share an incident that occurred on September 1, 2007. My son and I were taking off in our Model V when just before rotation I lost all control. The plane veered left and made a 45 degree beeline to the side of the run way which sat on top of a hill. There was no swerving left or right. There was just no control. We cartwheeled nose over wing and ended upside down. The plane was a total loss. My son and I were unharmed but our hearts were broken. The FAA investigator says it may have possibly been due to a broken bolt that held the assembly together. My son happened to be filming our takeoff from the cockpit so I have the whole thing on DVD. I am only posting this in hopes that it will save further heartache in the future. I welcome any questions that anyone may have. Michael Stanard Crumpled Model V ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.