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1. 06:22 AM - Float Plane Fun (kitfoxjunky)
2. 09:08 AM - Re: 4 stroke engine (crazyivan)
3. 09:19 AM - Re: Tires (crazyivan)
4. 12:44 PM - Re: throttle (Jacques Voynaud)
5. 03:33 PM - Re: Re: Tires (Lowell Fitt)
6. 03:43 PM - Re: Re: Tires (Kevin Ridsdale)
7. 04:18 PM - Re: Float Plane Fun (Fred Shiple)
8. 04:49 PM - Re: Re: Tires (Noel Loveys)
9. 05:47 PM - Re: Re: Tires (Lowell Fitt)
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Last weekend I got up early and took a trip up North with some friends...a
Rebel, a Stinson and a J3. All were on floats. This time of year in
Canada the leaves are changing color, and up North it is mostly forest so
we wanted to take in the view. If you like looking at pictures and video
clips of floatplanes check out the link below.
http://www.decisionlabs.com/QuickPlace/kitfox/Main.nsf/h_8D4D05BE99F5A13A852572D6004AE0AE/1741BFE7B5CA05788525736700020217/?OpenDocument
Gary Walsh
KF IV Anphib 912S
C-GOOT
www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: 4 stroke engine |
One of my favorite subjects: auto conversion vs. the "airplane" engine.
When it boils down to it the Jabiru/Rotax have a few things going for them:
-They are light!
-More popular kitplanes have a FWF package that fits and has been tested. This'll
save time and experimentation.
-They have worked the kinks out.
-There is a running list of service notices for the kinks yet to be found.
The auto engines:
-They cost a lot less.
-You design the FWF yourself so you are intimately familiar with every aspect.
-There are a lot of them to choose from with a large choice of hp.
About cost, though. There is a guy on the internet that built a Zodiac. Initially
he put in a VW but it wasn't powerful enough and overheated. He then switched
to a Corvair, but that engine had the crankshaft break. This is a relatively
frequent occurrence if the crank isn't reconditioned the precisely correct
way. I think he ended up buying a Jabiru. In the end the auto engine didn't
pay off.
I came to the conclusion that picking your engine is a factor of cost, capability,
and risk tolerance. If I lived in the Midwest with a kozillion acres of emergency
landing strips, I'd hang a Corvair on the front of a new Kitfox Super
Sport. But, right now I live/fly in Maine and plan on eventually doing some
west coast back country flying. I have a Rotax 912 on my Speedster and I'll probably
end up with a Jabiru on my next plane. The extra $10K will turn into
peace of mind while flying 50 miles from civilization over heavily forested real
estate with my son as copilot.
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Dave
Speedster 912 UL
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Mike,
Unfortunately MiPPi Ultralights doesn't sell the Kingfox tires anymore. I think
they closed their doors for good.
If you do find a set for sale, get them, especially if you fly off of grass. I
love them because I can get into about 5 or 6 inches of snow with no problem and
they make for a comfortable taxi. They are good in mud, puddles, and longer
grass too. There is less breaking action but unless you are flying from a 600'
strip this won't make a difference. They will also slow you down about 5
mph (more if you use wheel pants).
They are 21x12x8 I believe and I had a local ATV service shop mount the pair for
$30.
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Dave
Speedster 912 UL
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138081#138081
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John, where did you plug the aircraft primer on the 912=3F Did you use the
carb balance tube=3F
Jacques Voynaud
Conseiller en formation
Cegep de l'Abitibi-T=E9miscamingue
Centre de Ville-Marie (819)629-3211
jacques=2Evoynaud@cegepat=2Eqc=2Eca
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The tires sold as Kingfox are Nankang. Check the following Link. The tires
are listed on the bottom of the page.
http://www.tiresunlimited.com/nankang_atv_tires.htm
Also Goodyear makes a treadless tire, but it is smaller in diameter and
width. I was planning on ordering a pair to look at them until my airplane
turned to scrap metal.
http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/Goodyear/goodyear_smooth_terra.htm
Regards.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "crazyivan" <dmivezic@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:18 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Tires
>
> Mike,
>
> Unfortunately MiPPi Ultralights doesn't sell the Kingfox tires anymore. I
> think they closed their doors for good.
>
> If you do find a set for sale, get them, especially if you fly off of
> grass. I love them because I can get into about 5 or 6 inches of snow with
> no problem and they make for a comfortable taxi. They are good in mud,
> puddles, and longer grass too. There is less breaking action but unless
> you are flying from a 600' strip this won't make a difference. They will
> also slow you down about 5 mph (more if you use wheel pants).
>
> They are 21x12x8 I believe and I had a local ATV service shop mount the
> pair for $30.
>
> --------
> Dave
> Speedster 912 UL
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138081#138081
>
>
>
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Kitfox owners
MiPPi has 1 set of King Fox tires remaining, however a
couple of our dealers like Dave Fisher in Ontario
Canada and Infinify PPC (Sturgis, Mi) still have some
remaining stock as well.
Keep flying
Kevin
MiPPi Ultralights
734-377-2670
--- crazyivan <dmivezic@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <dmivezic@yahoo.com>
>
> Mike,
>
> Unfortunately MiPPi Ultralights doesn't sell the
> Kingfox tires anymore. I think they closed their
> doors for good.
>
> If you do find a set for sale, get them, especially
> if you fly off of grass. I love them because I can
> get into about 5 or 6 inches of snow with no problem
> and they make for a comfortable taxi. They are good
> in mud, puddles, and longer grass too. There is
> less breaking action but unless you are flying from
> a 600' strip this won't make a difference. They
> will also slow you down about 5 mph (more if you use
> wheel pants).
>
> They are 21x12x8 I believe and I had a local ATV
> service shop mount the pair for $30.
>
> --------
> Dave
> Speedster 912 UL
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138081#138081
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List
>
> Web Forums!
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| Subject: | Re: Float Plane Fun |
Thanks for the report and the great photos. Always enjoy floatplane adventu
res. =0AAs you know you've got some wonderful country to fly in.=0A=0AFred
Shiple=0AS6/912S Amphibs=0AToledo OH=0A=0A=0A
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Buy the tires... Build the rest of a plane around them ;-)
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Lowell Fitt
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:00 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Tires
>
>
> <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
> The tires sold as Kingfox are Nankang. Check the following
> Link. The tires
> are listed on the bottom of the page.
> http://www.tiresunlimited.com/nankang_atv_tires.htm
>
> Also Goodyear makes a treadless tire, but it is smaller in
> diameter and
> width. I was planning on ordering a pair to look at them
> until my airplane
> turned to scrap metal.
> http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/Goodyear/goodyear_sm
> ooth_terra.htm
>
> Regards.
>
> Lowell
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "crazyivan" <dmivezic@yahoo.com>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:18 AM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Tires
>
>
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > Unfortunately MiPPi Ultralights doesn't sell the Kingfox
> tires anymore. I
> > think they closed their doors for good.
> >
> > If you do find a set for sale, get them, especially if you
> fly off of
> > grass. I love them because I can get into about 5 or 6
> inches of snow with
> > no problem and they make for a comfortable taxi. They are
> good in mud,
> > puddles, and longer grass too. There is less breaking
> action but unless
> > you are flying from a 600' strip this won't make a
> difference. They will
> > also slow you down about 5 mph (more if you use wheel pants).
> >
> > They are 21x12x8 I believe and I had a local ATV service
> shop mount the
> > pair for $30.
> >
> > --------
> > Dave
> > Speedster 912 UL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138081#138081
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Noel,
Moving in that direction, but not sure yet. Thanks.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 4:49 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Tires
>
> Buy the tires... Build the rest of a plane around them ;-)
>
> Noel
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> Lowell Fitt
>> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:00 PM
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Tires
>>
>>
>> <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>>
>> The tires sold as Kingfox are Nankang. Check the following
>> Link. The tires
>> are listed on the bottom of the page.
>> http://www.tiresunlimited.com/nankang_atv_tires.htm
>>
>> Also Goodyear makes a treadless tire, but it is smaller in
>> diameter and
>> width. I was planning on ordering a pair to look at them
>> until my airplane
>> turned to scrap metal.
>> http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ALL%20TIRES/Goodyear/goodyear_sm
>> ooth_terra.htm
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Lowell
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "crazyivan" <dmivezic@yahoo.com>
>> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:18 AM
>> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Tires
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Mike,
>> >
>> > Unfortunately MiPPi Ultralights doesn't sell the Kingfox
>> tires anymore. I
>> > think they closed their doors for good.
>> >
>> > If you do find a set for sale, get them, especially if you
>> fly off of
>> > grass. I love them because I can get into about 5 or 6
>> inches of snow with
>> > no problem and they make for a comfortable taxi. They are
>> good in mud,
>> > puddles, and longer grass too. There is less breaking
>> action but unless
>> > you are flying from a 600' strip this won't make a
>> difference. They will
>> > also slow you down about 5 mph (more if you use wheel pants).
>> >
>> > They are 21x12x8 I believe and I had a local ATV service
>> shop mount the
>> > pair for $30.
>> >
>> > --------
>> > Dave
>> > Speedster 912 UL
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Read this topic online here:
>> >
>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138081#138081
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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