---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/05/07: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:08 AM - IVO prop blades for sale (akflyer) 2. 09:15 AM - Re: Re: Tires (Guy Buchanan) 3. 11:51 AM - Re: IVO prop blades for sale (Cudnohufsky's) 4. 12:01 PM - Re: IVO prop blades for sale (jdmcbean) 5. 12:40 PM - Re: IVO prop blades for sale () 6. 01:20 PM - Re: Re: throttle (john oakley) 7. 01:26 PM - Oil Change problem (jeff puls) 8. 01:59 PM - Re: Oil Change problem (john oakley) 9. 02:01 PM - Re: tail wheels (avtar412) 10. 02:54 PM - Re: Re: tail wheels (john oakley) 11. 03:06 PM - Re: Oil Change problem (RAY Gignac) 12. 03:10 PM - Re: Oil Change problem (RAY Gignac) 13. 03:32 PM - Re: Oil Change problem (john oakley) 14. 05:46 PM - Re: Oil Change problem (RAY Gignac) 15. 06:01 PM - Re: Oil Change problem (jeff puls) 16. 06:03 PM - Re: Oil Change problem (jeff puls) 17. 06:45 PM - Re: Oil Change problem (jeff puls) 18. 08:15 PM - Re: IVO prop blades for sale (Clint Bazzill) 19. 08:17 PM - Tail Wheel Sprint (Clint Bazzill) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:40 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: IVO prop blades for sale From: "akflyer" I have 3 matched blades, 68" high pitch ultralight for sale. The have around 25 hours on them. save 50% off factory. 200 plus shipping (25 to 30 bucks) -------- Leonard Perry Soldotna AK Avid "C" / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 95% complete Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138297#138297 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:15:13 AM PST US From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Tires At 05:46 PM 10/4/2007, you wrote: >Moving in that direction, but not sure yet. Thanks. Yer not thinkin' of one of them RANS things, are ya? It makes ma skeen crawl jes t' think of it. Seriously, though, saw a couple of beautiful S7's at West Desert. Really nice workmanship and detailing. Heavy though. Hope you're getting along. Guy ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:51:45 AM PST US From: "Cudnohufsky's" <7suds@Chartermi.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: IVO prop blades for sale Leonard, I am very interested in buying if you still have the blades. I have a Model 5 with a 912, I think they are the correct blade. Do you know what a hub runs? Why are you selling? Lloyd Cudnohufsky Model 5 912 rebuild Northern Mi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "akflyer" Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:08 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: IVO prop blades for sale > > I have 3 matched blades, 68" high pitch ultralight for sale. The have > around 25 hours on them. save 50% off factory. 200 plus shipping (25 to > 30 bucks) > > -------- > Leonard Perry > Soldotna AK > Avid "C" / Mk IV > 582 IVO IFA > Full Lotus 1260 > 95% complete > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138297#138297 > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:01:48 PM PST US From: "jdmcbean" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: IVO prop blades for sale They are not the correct blades.. the prop rotation is different.... Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Cudnohufsky's Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 12:51 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: IVO prop blades for sale Leonard, I am very interested in buying if you still have the blades. I have a Model 5 with a 912, I think they are the correct blade. Do you know what a hub runs? Why are you selling? Lloyd Cudnohufsky Model 5 912 rebuild Northern Mi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "akflyer" Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:08 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: IVO prop blades for sale > > I have 3 matched blades, 68" high pitch ultralight for sale. The have > around 25 hours on them. save 50% off factory. 200 plus shipping (25 to > 30 bucks) > > -------- > Leonard Perry > Soldotna AK > Avid "C" / Mk IV > 582 IVO IFA > Full Lotus 1260 > 95% complete > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138297#138297 > > 12:27 PM 12:27 PM ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:40:13 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: IVO prop blades for sale I have 2 matched sets also.(3 blade) They are magnum blades for 9xx series (right hand). Not sure what the hub cost is but they will work with an inflight of ground adjust. 67"or 68". Kevin Cozik Lansing MI series 6-7 914 turbo czech amphibs > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "akflyer" akflyer_2000@yahoo.com> >To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> >Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:08 AM >Subject: Kitfox-List: IVO prop blades for sale > > >> >> I have 3 matched blades, 68" high pitch ultralight for sale. The have >> around 25 hours on them. save 50% off factory. 200 plus shipping (25 to >> 30 bucks) >> >> -------- >> Leonard Perry >> Soldotna AK >> Avid "C" / Mk IV >> 582 IVO IFA >> Full Lotus 1260 >> 95% complete >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php\?p=138297#138297 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >12:27 PM > >12:27 PM > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:20:49 PM PST US From: "john oakley" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: re: throttle Jacques, On the bottom of the carb there is a barbed fitting sticking out. It has a screw in it and it just unscrews. I used the normal 1/16th inch primer line for aircraft and installed it in the fitting with a rubber hose over it to hold and seal. I installed the copper line flush with the inside of the carb, but before I did I but a piece of 20 thousandths safety wire sticking in the copper line and wicked solider into the copper. When this was set up I pulled the safety wire out and this hand made orifice gave me a mist of gas when I primed, 800 hours on it now. I used a larger plastic line first but had problems with the carb sucking all the gas out of the line each time and causing it to run rough until it was dry. John Oakley _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jacques Voynaud Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 1:42 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: re: throttle John, where did you plug the aircraft primer on the 912? Did you use the carb balance tube? Jacques Voynaud Conseiller en formation Cegep de l'Abitibi-T=E9miscamingue Centre de Ville-Marie (819)629-3211 jacques.voynaud@cegepat.qc.ca ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:26:43 PM PST US From: "jeff puls" Subject: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Hi Guys, I have the Rotax 912 mounted on my Classic IV. I have the engine mount that enables the oil tank to be mounted behind the engine. It really needs to be mounted lower than the engine but there isn't room. I cannot get to the drain plug. I have been changing my oil by removing the tank lid and dumping and cleaning the tank. The engine runs great so I hope I have not damaged it. However, I just read a bunch of stuff that says if you break the seal on the tank you open the system. That means that you have to purge the engine which if you have read it is very complicated. How are you guys changing your oil? If you read the maintenance manual to a "T" and the ROAN information you must purge it. I was thinking about buying one of those quick release fittings for the bottom of the tank but I can't get to it either. This is the last thing I have to do on my yearly condition inspection. Somebody help !!!!!!!!!!! Jeff Columbus, Ohio ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:59:04 PM PST US From: "john oakley" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Jeff. No matter how you change the oil in the tank, you will break the suction and will need to purge properly. I change the oil and then hook up a compressor to the tank vent at 10 lbs and pull the pressure ball and spring, let it flow until it is clear replace the ball and spring. This is especially helpful if you are using an oil cooler. Even more helpful if you are using an oil cooler and leaded fuel. John Oakley _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeff puls Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:17 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Hi Guys, I have the Rotax 912 mounted on my Classic IV. I have the engine mount that enables the oil tank to be mounted behind the engine. It really needs to be mounted lower than the engine but there isn't room. I cannot get to the drain plug. I have been changing my oil by removing the tank lid and dumping and cleaning the tank. The engine runs great so I hope I have not damaged it. However, I just read a bunch of stuff that says if you break the seal on the tank you open the system. That means that you have to purge the engine which if you have read it is very complicated. How are you guys changing your oil? If you read the maintenance manual to a "T" and the ROAN information you must purge it. I was thinking about buying one of those quick release fittings for the bottom of the tank but I can't get to it either. This is the last thing I have to do on my yearly condition inspection. Somebody help !!!!!!!!!!! Jeff Columbus, Ohio ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:01:37 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: tail wheels From: "avtar412" Yes John, I have a grove aluminum tail spring and seems fine. I have mounted mine in a nylon block as I read that some past failure was due to stress cracking caused by the spring rubbing on a mounting bolt. See http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=view&epoch=1072508647 for pictures. John A. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138367#138367 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tailspring_109.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/tailspring2_197.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:54:14 PM PST US From: "john oakley" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: tail wheels John A. Thanks for writing back, and a big thanks for the pictures. I would never have thought of that. It is a great way to protect the spring and I believe it is a bit more control over the sway of the gear. I will do that same thing to mine this winter. John Oakley Speedster 4 land and short wings 912ul cap -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of avtar412 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 3:01 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: tail wheels Yes John, I have a grove aluminum tail spring and seems fine. I have mounted mine in a nylon block as I read that some past failure was due to stress cracking caused by the spring rubbing on a mounting bolt. See http://www.sportflight.com/cgi-bin/uploader.pl?action=view&epoch=1072508647 for pictures. John A. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138367#138367 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tailspring_109.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/tailspring2_197.jpg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:06:33 PM PST US From: RAY Gignac Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Question?? why do you have to purge the system after you change the oil fr om the oil tank? when you remove the oil tank cap there is no pressure til l re put the cap back on! am I missing something. Ray From: john@leptron.comTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Kitfox-List : Oil Change problemDate: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:56:31 -0600 Jeff. No matter how you change the oil in the tank, you will break the suction an d will need to purge properly. I change the oil and then hook up a compressor to the tank vent at 10 lbs a nd pull the pressure ball and spring, let it flow until it is clear replace the ball and spring. This is especially helpful if you are using an oil co oler. Even more helpful if you are using an oil cooler and leaded fuel. John Oakley From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-serv er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeff pulsSent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:17 PMTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Hi Guys, I have the Rotax 912 mounted on my Classic IV. I have the engine mount that enables the oil tank to be mounted behind the engine. It really needs to b e mounted lower than the engine but there isn't room. I cannot get to the d rain plug. I have been changing my oil by removing the tank lid and dumping and cleaning the tank. The engine runs great so I hope I have not damaged it. However, I just read a bunch of stuff that says if you break the seal o n the tank you open the system. That means that you have to purge the engin e which if you have read it is very complicated. How are you guys changing your oil? If you read the maintenance manual to a "T" and the ROAN informat ion you must purge it. I was thinking about buying one of those quick relea se fittings for the bottom of the tank but I can't get to it either. This i s the last thing I have to do on my yearly condition inspection. Somebody h elp !!!!!!!!!!! Jeff Columbus, Ohio _________________________________________________________________ ! ilnews ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:10:27 PM PST US From: RAY Gignac Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem I don't think there is a problem, I have the 912uls and I change my oil the same way. I turn the prop by hand to get all the oil to the tank, then ta ke the oil cap off then the tank cover! no purge required! now if you rem ove the lines to your oil cooler then you will have to purge! Ray From: pulsair@mindspring.comTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: Kitfox-Li st: Oil Change problemDate: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:17:27 -0400 Hi Guys, I have the Rotax 912 mounted on my Classic IV. I have the engine mount that enables the oil tank to be mounted behind the engine. It really needs to b e mounted lower than the engine but there isn't room. I cannot get to the d rain plug. I have been changing my oil by removing the tank lid and dumping and cleaning the tank. The engine runs great so I hope I have not damaged it. However, I just read a bunch of stuff that says if you break the seal o n the tank you open the system. That means that you have to purge the engin e which if you have read it is very complicated. How are you guys changing your oil? If you read the maintenance manual to a "T" and the ROAN informat ion you must purge it. I was thinking about buying one of those quick relea se fittings for the bottom of the tank but I can't get to it either. This i s the last thing I have to do on my yearly condition inspection. Somebody h elp !!!!!!!!!!! Jeff Columbus, Ohio _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!- Play Star Shuffle:- the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oc t ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:32:47 PM PST US From: "john oakley" Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Ray, Its not removing the cap but unporting the suction line. When you drain the oil it also drains part of the suction line. I never noticed a problem when I was doing ti the old way, but, with the note's out on this, decided to pay attention to them. John oakley _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RAY Gignac Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 4:06 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Question?? why do you have to purge the system after you change the oil from the oil tank? when you remove the oil tank cap there is no pressure till re put the cap back on! am I missing something. Ray _____ From: john@leptron.com Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Jeff. No matter how you change the oil in the tank, you will break the suction and will need to purge properly. I change the oil and then hook up a compressor to the tank vent at 10 lbs and pull the pressure ball and spring, let it flow until it is clear replace the ball and spring. This is especially helpful if you are using an oil cooler. Even more helpful if you are using an oil cooler and leaded fuel. John Oakley _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeff puls Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:17 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Hi Guys, I have the Rotax 912 mounted on my Classic IV. I have the engine mount that enables the oil tank to be mounted behind the engine. It really needs to be mounted lower than the engine but there isn't room. I cannot get to the drain plug. I have been changing my oil by removing the tank lid and dumping and cleaning the tank. The engine runs great so I hope I have not damaged it. However, I just read a bunch of stuff that says if you break the seal on the tank you open the system. That means that you have to purge the engine which if you have read it is very complicated. How are you guys changing your oil? If you read the maintenance manual to a "T" and the ROAN information you must purge it. I was thinking about buying one of those quick release fittings for the bottom of the tank but I can't get to it either. This is the last thing I have to do on my yearly condition inspection. Somebody help !!!!!!!!!!! Jeff Columbus, Ohio arget=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List p://forums.matronics.com _____ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews' target='_new'>Try now! ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:46:08 PM PST US From: RAY Gignac Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Ah, I see the way you are doing it, I don't remove the oil lines, just remo ve the tank top and use a syphon tube to remove all the oil. Once I do tha t, I remove the screen and wipe out the inside of the oil tank! then re-ins tall, add my oil and back in business. This has been the only way I ever d id this oil change. Hope I have not screwed anything up. Ray From: john@leptron.comTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Kitfox-List : Oil Change problemDate: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:29:24 -0600 Ray, Its not removing the cap but unporting the suction line. When you drain the oil it also drains part of the suction line. I never noticed a problem whe n I was doing ti the old way, but, with the note=92s out on this, decided t o pay attention to them. John oakley From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-serv er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RAY GignacSent: Friday, October 05, 2007 4:0 6 PMTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oil Change probl em Question?? why do you have to purge the system after you change the oil fr om the oil tank? when you remove the oil tank cap there is no pressure til l re put the cap back on! am I missing something. Ray From: john@leptron.comTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Kitfox-List : Oil Change problemDate: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:56:31 -0600 Jeff. No matter how you change the oil in the tank, you will break the suction an d will need to purge properly. I change the oil and then hook up a compressor to the tank vent at 10 lbs a nd pull the pressure ball and spring, let it flow until it is clear replace the ball and spring. This is especially helpful if you are using an oil co oler. Even more helpful if you are using an oil cooler and leaded fuel. John Oakley From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-serv er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeff pulsSent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:17 PMTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Hi Guys, I have the Rotax 912 mounted on my Classic IV. I have the engine mount that enables the oil tank to be mounted behind the engine. It really needs to b e mounted lower than the engine but there isn't room. I cannot get to the d rain plug. I have been changing my oil by removing the tank lid and dumping and cleaning the tank. The engine runs great so I hope I have not damaged it. However, I just read a bunch of stuff that says if you break the seal o n the tank you open the system. That means that you have to purge the engin e which if you have read it is very complicated. How are you guys changing your oil? If you read the maintenance manual to a "T" and the ROAN informat ion you must purge it. I was thinking about buying one of those quick relea se fittings for the bottom of the tank but I can't get to it either. This i s the last thing I have to do on my yearly condition inspection. Somebody h elp !!!!!!!!!!! Jeff Columbus, Ohio arget=_blank>http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kitfox-Listp://forums.matronics.com Boo! Scare away worms, viruses com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid =wl_hotmailnews' target='_new'>Try now! _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!- Play Star Shuffle:- the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oc t ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:01:44 PM PST US From: "jeff puls" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Ray, There are three times you purge and number 3 says when you left the cap. I read it in a ROAN presentation and SI-018. I agree with you though. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: RAY Gignac To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 6:06 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Question?? why do you have to purge the system after you change the oil from the oil tank? when you remove the oil tank cap there is no pressure till re put the cap back on! am I missing something. Ray ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: john@leptron.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:56:31 -0600 Jeff. No matter how you change the oil in the tank, you will break the suction and will need to purge properly. I change the oil and then hook up a compressor to the tank vent at 10 lbs and pull the pressure ball and spring, let it flow until it is clear replace the ball and spring. This is especially helpful if you are using an oil cooler. Even more helpful if you are using an oil cooler and leaded fuel. John Oakley ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeff puls Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:17 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Hi Guys, I have the Rotax 912 mounted on my Classic IV. I have the engine mount that enables the oil tank to be mounted behind the engine. It really needs to be mounted lower than the engine but there isn't room. I cannot get to the drain plug. I have been changing my oil by removing the tank lid and dumping and cleaning the tank. The engine runs great so I hope I have not damaged it. However, I just read a bunch of stuff that says if you break the seal on the tank you open the system. That means that you have to purge the engine which if you have read it is very complicated. How are you guys changing your oil? If you read the maintenance manual to a "T" and the ROAN information you must purge it. I was thinking about buying one of those quick release fittings for the bottom of the tank but I can't get to it either. This is the last thing I have to do on my yearly condition inspection. Somebody help !!!!!!!!!!! Jeff Columbus, Ohio arget=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List p://forums.matronics.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Boo! Scare away worms, viruses com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews' target='_new'>Try now! ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:03:57 PM PST US From: "jeff puls" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem John, The ROAN bulletin mentioned blowing air and said it could severely damage the engine. I don't know what to think. I know purging by the book stinks! Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: john oakley To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 4:56 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Jeff. No matter how you change the oil in the tank, you will break the suction and will need to purge properly. I change the oil and then hook up a compressor to the tank vent at 10 lbs and pull the pressure ball and spring, let it flow until it is clear replace the ball and spring. This is especially helpful if you are using an oil cooler. Even more helpful if you are using an oil cooler and leaded fuel. John Oakley ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeff puls Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:17 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Hi Guys, I have the Rotax 912 mounted on my Classic IV. I have the engine mount that enables the oil tank to be mounted behind the engine. It really needs to be mounted lower than the engine but there isn't room. I cannot get to the drain plug. I have been changing my oil by removing the tank lid and dumping and cleaning the tank. The engine runs great so I hope I have not damaged it. However, I just read a bunch of stuff that says if you break the seal on the tank you open the system. That means that you have to purge the engine which if you have read it is very complicated. How are you guys changing your oil? If you read the maintenance manual to a "T" and the ROAN information you must purge it. I was thinking about buying one of those quick release fittings for the bottom of the tank but I can't get to it either. This is the last thing I have to do on my yearly condition inspection. Somebody help !!!!!!!!!!! Jeff Columbus, Ohio ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:45:20 PM PST US From: "jeff puls" Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem No, it makes perfect sense. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: RAY Gignac To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 8:45 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Ah, I see the way you are doing it, I don't remove the oil lines, just remove the tank top and use a syphon tube to remove all the oil. Once I do that, I remove the screen and wipe out the inside of the oil tank! then re-install, add my oil and back in business. This has been the only way I ever did this oil change. Hope I have not screwed anything up. Ray ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: john@leptron.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:29:24 -0600 Ray, Its not removing the cap but unporting the suction line. When you drain the oil it also drains part of the suction line. I never noticed a problem when I was doing ti the old way, but, with the note=92s out on this, decided to pay attention to them. John oakley ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RAY Gignac Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 4:06 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Question?? why do you have to purge the system after you change the oil from the oil tank? when you remove the oil tank cap there is no pressure till re put the cap back on! am I missing something. Ray ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: john@leptron.com To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:56:31 -0600 Jeff. No matter how you change the oil in the tank, you will break the suction and will need to purge properly. I change the oil and then hook up a compressor to the tank vent at 10 lbs and pull the pressure ball and spring, let it flow until it is clear replace the ball and spring. This is especially helpful if you are using an oil cooler. Even more helpful if you are using an oil cooler and leaded fuel. John Oakley ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeff puls Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:17 PM To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Subject: Kitfox-List: Oil Change problem Hi Guys, I have the Rotax 912 mounted on my Classic IV. I have the engine mount that enables the oil tank to be mounted behind the engine. It really needs to be mounted lower than the engine but there isn't room. I cannot get to the drain plug. I have been changing my oil by removing the tank lid and dumping and cleaning the tank. The engine runs great so I hope I have not damaged it. However, I just read a bunch of stuff that says if you break the seal on the tank you open the system. That means that you have to purge the engine which if you have read it is very complicated. How are you guys changing your oil? If you read the maintenance manual to a "T" and the ROAN information you must purge it. I was thinking about buying one of those quick release fittings for the bottom of the tank but I can't get to it either. This is the last thing I have to do on my yearly condition inspection. Somebody help !!!!!!!!!!! Jeff Columbus, Ohio arget=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-Listp://forums.m atronics.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Boo! Scare away worms, viruses com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews' target='_new'>Try now! arget=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List p://forums.matronics.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. Play Now! ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:15:26 PM PST US From: Clint Bazzill Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: IVO prop blades for sale If you use the UL blades on 912ULS they should be 72 inches. I had 68 inch on 912ULS and they were a little short. Clint 912ULS 1260 hours > From: jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> Subject : RE: Kitfox-List: IVO prop blades for sale> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:01:06 craft.com>> > They are not the correct blades.. the prop rotation is differ ent....> > Fly Safe !!> John & Debra McBean> 208.337.5111> www.kitfoxaircra ft.com> "It's not how Fast... It's how Fun!"> > -----Original Message-----> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-se rver@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Cudnohufsky's> Sent: Friday, October 05, 20 07 12:51 PM> To: akflyer_2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: IVO prop ds@chartermi.net>> > > Leonard,> I am very interested in buying if you stil l have the blades. I have a Model> 5 with a 912, I think they are the corre ct blade. Do you know what a hub> runs? Why are you selling?> > Lloyd Cudno hufsky> Model 5 912 rebuild> Northern Mi.> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "akflyer" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:08 AM> Subject: Kitfox-List: IVO prop b _2000@yahoo.com>> >> > I have 3 matched blades, 68" high pitch ultralight f or sale. The have> > around 25 hours on them. save 50% off factory. 200 plu s shipping (25 to> > 30 bucks)> >> > --------> > Leonard Perry> > Soldotna AK> > Avid "C" / Mk IV> > 582 IVO IFA> > Full Lotus 1260> > 95% c omplete> >> >> >> >> > Read this topic online here:> >> > http://forums.mat ronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138297#138297> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > => > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:55 PM PST US From: Clint Bazzill Subject: Kitfox-List: Tail Wheel Sprint I have been reading a lot about broken tail wheel springs. I have a alumi num spring and a tundra tail wheel. I don't think that you can break a spr ing if you have a tailwheel with air in it. My 2 cents worth. 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