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1. 05:05 AM - Re: Fossil Fuels (Michel Verheughe)
2. 05:28 AM - Re: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question (RRTRACK@aol.com)
3. 06:27 AM - HKS? (Dave G.)
4. 07:12 AM - Re: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question (Noel Loveys)
5. 08:25 AM - Re: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question (dave)
6. 08:52 AM - Re: Re: Fuel tanks and TCP (GENTRYLL@aol.com)
7. 09:53 AM - Re: Re: Fuel tanks and TCP (Dave G.)
8. 10:17 AM - Re: Fuel tanks and TCP (mosquito56)
9. 10:29 AM - Re: Re: Fuel tanks and TCP (Noel Loveys)
10. 10:36 AM - Re: Fossil Fuels (was: Fuel tanks and TCP) (mosquito56)
11. 10:46 AM - Re: Elevator Control Tube Guide Bushing (Lubrication) (mosquito56)
12. 11:27 AM - Re: Fossil Fuels (Jim Crowder)
13. 01:26 PM - Re: Re: Fuel tanks and TCP (Noel Loveys)
14. 01:27 PM - Re: Re: Fuel tanks and TCP (Noel Loveys)
15. 01:29 PM - Re: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question (Pete Christensen)
16. 02:29 PM - Re: Help-Adding Aerocet 1100 floats to Kitfox IV-1200 (dave)
17. 02:35 PM - Re: Re: Fossil Fuels (was: Fuel tanks and TCP) (Noel Loveys)
18. 02:57 PM - Re: Re: Elevator Control Tube Guide Bushing (Lubrication) (Noel Loveys)
19. 03:44 PM - Re: Fossil Fuels (david hein)
20. 05:26 PM - Spar Sloshing ()
21. 05:26 PM - Re: Kitfox 2,rotax 582,VW 2100 swap (Steve Shinabery)
22. 06:10 PM - Re: Re: Elevator Control Tube Guide Bushing (Lubrication) (RAY Gignac)
23. 06:26 PM - Re: Spar Sloshing (john oakley)
24. 07:01 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox 2,rotax 582,VW 2100 swap (ron schick)
25. 07:18 PM - kee west voltage regulator? (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
26. 07:44 PM - Re: HKS? (W & R Beck)
27. 07:57 PM - Re: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question (Rexinator)
28. 08:13 PM - Re: HKS? (Mnflyer)
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| Subject: | Re: Fossil Fuels |
On Oct 13, 2007, at 11:46 PM, Michael Gibbs wrote:
> I think the point Noel is making is two-fold.
I agree with you, Mike (and Noel, in that sense). Your points are also
what I have read. I was merely trying to illustrate what I think I
understand about the difference between fossil fuel and renewable fuel,
upon the content of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
But my personal opinion about global warming is this: The problem arose
some ten thousand years ago when hunting and gathering humans started
agricultural growth. Until then, the earth could accept about five
million humans. It was in balance. When we started growing our own food
and keep cattle, we increased our population. It went slowly from five
millions to 2.5 billion in 1948, when I was born, to 6.6 billion today.
The earth cannot bear our pollution and the carbon dioxide release from
fossil fuel is only the tip of an iceberg we'll have to solve in the
future. But talking about over-population is a political suicide in our
politically-correct society. Carbon dioxide is an easier target.
Regarding the price of corn, I entirely agree with you, it is insane. I
Europe, we talk about producing ethanol from bio-mass, i.e. all kind of
organic waste such as hay, timber industrial waste and even human food
waste. Will it work? I don't know.
In Norway, 35% of our carbon dioxide release comes from the offshore
oil production - not the use of it, only the production! Yet, in a
measure to look more environmentally friendly, our government has
recently decided for the 2008 budget to increase the taxes on
automotive diesel fuel and jet fuel, in the hope that people will drive
and fly less. Of course, it's a win-win decision for them: They look
environmentally friendly and they get more money for the state budget.
But will it help? I think not.
Meanwhile, I am prepared to use only AvGas in my Jabiru engine.
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question |
Depends on what model Kitfox you have and the door opening size of the
container. My Kitfox V would not fit as the horizontal stabilizer, elevator,
folded wings, and landing gear are all to wide.
Also metal containers would be subject to condensation inside with
temperature changes.
Mark
Kitfox 5 Vixen
912UL IVO
Hartford, Wisconsin
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Has anyone any experience with this engine on a Model IV? It appears to
be a reasonable match for the 582 that performs so well on this
aircraft. It's a reasonable price and uses much less fuel than the two
stroke and should prove reliable.
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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| Subject: | Kitfox/Railroad Container Question |
No problem. put up vapour barrier inside the container and insulate the
outside with siding. Or get an old transport trailer with plywood
interior.
Noel
Also metal containers would be subject to condensation inside with
temperature changes.
Mark
Kitfox 5 Vixen
912UL IVO
Hartford, Wisconsin
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question |
Why worry about moisture ?
Just put in a screened window on both ends.
no one in their Right mind would seal up something too tight now would they ?
If not is just a greenhouse with out the UV :)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tanks and TCP |
I am going to have to store my Kitfox IV for awhile. What do you recommend
I do with the tanks and remainder of the fuel system?
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tanks and TCP |
Can't speak specifically to Kitfoxes but I have vast experience with gas
powered machinery. I recommend for periods in excess of 12 months to
drain the fuel entirely and blow out the fuel system until it is
completely dry. The fiberglass tanks should be fine with no treatment. I
would store the engine as per Rotax reccomendations, make sure the carbs
are completely dry, not just empty. For shorter periods up to 12 months,
I would consider draining and drying, but you might get away with just
stabilizing the fuel. Draining it fully is by far the best option. If
you had a steel tank fogging an oil like rust check will help prevent
rusting far better than leaving the tank full.
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel tanks and TCP
I am going to have to store my Kitfox IV for awhile. What do you
recommend I do with the tanks and remainder of the fuel system?
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tanks and TCP |
My understanding on the MOGAS, 100LL, ETHANOL situation is this. Please correct
me if I am wrong.
Rotax- 100ll sporadically only if needed. Low level ethanol no problem, mogas
prefered.
Tanks. Fiberglass- DO NOT USE ETHANOL melts the tanks
Metal tanks- Mogas not a problem.
Plastic tanks? help
>From what I read this depends on engine and tanks. My s-12 has rotax with plastic
tanks. Run mogas as much as possible, avoid ethanol and use 100ll sparingly.
Please clarify my plastic tanks issue. Are my tanks plastic? They sure don't
look like fiberglass. I seem to remember a topic awhile back that says the newer
Rans planes had plastic tanks.
Don
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tanks and TCP |
If you are going to store for a long period of time. Drain the entire
fuel
system from the tanks to the gascolator, to the carb bowls and then fog
the
engine. Close the exhaust with a damp oily (mineral oil) rag and do the
same with the carb throat.
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Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel tanks and TCP
I am going to have to store my Kitfox IV for awhile. What do you
recommend
I do with the tanks and remainder of the fuel system?
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| Subject: | Re: Fossil Fuels (was: Fuel tanks and TCP) |
Ethonol is only a green fuel when it is produced by a clean engery source such
as hydro, windmill, or any other natural energy source. Since most of the power
produced in the U.S. is from coal, most ethanol is not a green fuel.
Having been reading about this topic for 20 years now, I knew we would begin
using ethonol in cars long ago. I was hoping it wouldn't be until after I died
but thanks to the American Military and the Chinese we now have three dollar
a gallon gas. The break even point on ethanol is $2.50 a gal.
Brazil started in the 80's when ethanol was an expensive alternative since gas
was much cheaper to run than ethanol. Now that ethanol is cheaper than gas,
(gas got expensive, ethanol did not get cheap), they wil now maintain a less expensive
energy technology. One thing I am not sure of is will the cost of the
biomass raise as the demand increasing with the purchase of ethanol?
We will never switch to alternative energy sources until it is economical to
do so. We all think about global warming and how we want to correct it. I think
it every time I drive my suv to work, go skiing in my boat or fly my leaded
fuel engine in my plane.
Don
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Control Tube Guide Bushing (Lubrication) |
I have a couple questions since we are on the subject of lubrication. Is there
a downside to lubing all the contact points on the plane?
I have been spraying pulley, the yoke connections etc with wd-40 every month.
Am I doing something wrong here?
What is a good recommended oil lubricant and what should I spray?
Don
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Here is some food for thought. My chemical engineer son tells me that
carbon dioxide is not a very effective greenhouse gas and others are more
effective. Also note that a trend of earth warming is not unusual in
itself. Years 900 to 1400 AD were warm. Possibly warmer in part. History
records the period as one of good living in Europe with longer growing
seasons and high crop production. Greenland actually had green fields and
supported animal grassing. Grapes were even grown there and settlements
prospered.
There appears to have been a connection between carbon dioxide levels and
warming, but the higher levels trailed rather than led in the time line.
There are other even warmer times in the earths past. The current push on
global warming is largely political and lacks scientific objectivity.
Producing fuel from a finished product like corn helps little, if any, and
makes little sense.
One the other hand burning oil is a waste of a valuable chemical stock which
will probably be seen in the future as a great folly. We need to get beyond
political correctness and apply real science and logic to the issue--not
politics and especially not the politics of the United Nations.
Much of what we are doing is still OK. Burning less oil, using more solar,
developing things like ocean wave energy, are all good. But making fuel
from corn and food grain is wasteful and diverts money from valid efforts.
And besides, history tells us we will still likely experience global warming
periods.
Jim Crowder
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Michel
Verheughe
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fossil Fuels
On Oct 13, 2007, at 11:46 PM, Michael Gibbs wrote:
> I think the point Noel is making is two-fold.
I agree with you, Mike (and Noel, in that sense). Your points are also
what I have read. I was merely trying to illustrate what I think I
understand about the difference between fossil fuel and renewable fuel,
upon the content of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tanks and TCP |
Plastic tanks are supposed to be free of the effects ethanol has on fibre
glass tanks. The tanks are only one issue albeit the most obvious and
immediate one.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> mosquito56
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 2:41 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel tanks and TCP
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> <mosquito-56@hotmail.com>
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> My understanding on the MOGAS, 100LL, ETHANOL situation is
> this. Please correct me if I am wrong.
> Rotax- 100ll sporadically only if needed. Low level ethanol
> no problem, mogas prefered.
> Tanks. Fiberglass- DO NOT USE ETHANOL melts the tanks
> Metal tanks- Mogas not a problem.
> Plastic tanks? help
>
> >From what I read this depends on engine and tanks. My s-12
> has rotax with plastic tanks. Run mogas as much as possible,
> avoid ethanol and use 100ll sparingly.
> Please clarify my plastic tanks issue. Are my tanks
> plastic? They sure don't look like fiberglass. I seem to
> remember a topic awhile back that says the newer Rans planes
> had plastic tanks.
> Don
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tanks and TCP |
Why not just fog with two stroke mineral oil?? Synthetic two stroke
oil
will eventually seep off the inside of the tank and leave it
unprotected.
also two stroke mineral oil will not contaminate the fuel when you put
it
back into service. BTW the two stroke oil will atomize pretty well
through
a spray gun.
Noel
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel tanks and TCP
Can't speak specifically to Kitfoxes but I have vast experience with gas
powered machinery. I recommend for periods in excess of 12 months to
drain
the fuel entirely and blow out the fuel system until it is completely
dry.
The fiberglass tanks should be fine with no treatment. I would store the
engine as per Rotax reccomendations, make sure the carbs are completely
dry,
not just empty. For shorter periods up to 12 months, I would consider
draining and drying, but you might get away with just stabilizing the
fuel.
Draining it fully is by far the best option. If you had a steel tank
fogging
an oil like rust check will help prevent rusting far better than leaving
the
tank full.
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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----- Original Message -----
From: GENTRYLL@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Fuel tanks and TCP
I am going to have to store my Kitfox IV for awhile. What do you
recommend
I do with the tanks and remainder of the fuel system?
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question |
Now there is an idea! Sounds like the container won't work. I'm sure a
slightly oversize trailer might be the way to go. At 5t6 a shaded tie down
is $40/month and the airport mgr said I could put a trailer there.
Pete
----- Original Message -----
From: "paul wilson" <pwmac@sisna.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question
>
> Mine is 92" wide and 89" high inside measure. I used it to store my plane
> during the move and now I use it for cheap storage. Its the cheapest
> secure storage you will ever find. One drawback is no temp control. The
> metal gets much hotter than ambient and much colder than ambient. Thus one
> has to be selective as to what goes in the metal box. As you might have
> noticed the Kitfox wont fit with the wings attached even folded or with
> the horiz attached. Mine is a 40' and has doors on both ends . Very handy.
>
> Buy or build a box trailer that is over width. Cheapest would be to make
> your own. Park it at the airport next to a friendly hanger owner. The
> white metal wont have the temp excursions that the steel cargo container
> has. Not as secure since anybody with a saw can open it up on the sides.
> This solution definitely needs tiedowns because it is so light. I see 5th
> wheel trailers parked at different airports so I know it is possible. Make
> one that is 10' wide and 30+ feet long that is not very road worthy. Then
> sneek it to the airport in the dead of night to avoid the cops since you
> will not be highway legal. Jack it up a so the cheep tires and axles do
> not carry much weight. Leave the tires on it so it still looks like a
> trailer. Put a big fuel tank in the trailer for ease of fueling or
> de-fueling.
> Have fun,
> Paul
>
> At 03:17 PM 10/13/2007, you wrote:
>><apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
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>>Does anyone know if a 40'X8'X8' railroad container could be used as a
>>hanger for a folded wing Kitfox? Cheap storage if it would.
>>
>>Pete
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| Subject: | Re: Help-Adding Aerocet 1100 floats to Kitfox IV-1200 |
Larry,
The Johnson bar goes to the left of the elevator rod.
I enclosed pic of my Bull wheel set up i made from scratch for my aerocet 1100s
.
Mine all attaches with hose clamps, no drilling of tubes needed.
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| Subject: | Re: Fossil Fuels (was: Fuel tanks and TCP) |
Don :
The fact you consider the greenhouse gasses etc every time you burn leaded
fuel, run your boat or SUV shows that you are already concerned about the
state of the atmosphere. The desire for a greener fuel is growing.
Eventually we will have it. Regardless of where we live that has to be
true.
Even distilled with wind or solar power the ethanol isn't green. The amount
of fuel required to grow the stuff, in an active farming environment, and
the amount of CO2 given off during the fermentation more than wipes out any
"green" tendencies it may have had. Crude oil is far greener by comparison.
It is refined to give several grades of oil, tar and plastics while still
providing fuel. We all agree the crude oil is not green therefore ethanol
is worse.
The mission of this list is to safely fly our Kitfoxes. I have a lot more
to say on the topic of alternative fuels but this is not the place. I harp
on ethanol because I don't think it is not safe to fly.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> mosquito56
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 2:59 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Fossil Fuels (was: Fuel tanks and TCP)
>
>
> <mosquito-56@hotmail.com>
>
> Ethonol is only a green fuel when it is produced by a clean
> engery source such as hydro, windmill, or any other natural
> energy source. Since most of the power produced in the U.S.
> is from coal, most ethanol is not a green fuel.
> Having been reading about this topic for 20 years now, I
> knew we would begin using ethonol in cars long ago. I was
> hoping it wouldn't be until after I died but thanks to the
> American Military and the Chinese we now have three dollar a
> gallon gas. The break even point on ethanol is $2.50 a gal.
> Brazil started in the 80's when ethanol was an expensive
> alternative since gas was much cheaper to run than ethanol.
> Now that ethanol is cheaper than gas, (gas got expensive,
> ethanol did not get cheap), they wil now maintain a less
> expensive energy technology. One thing I am not sure of is
> will the cost of the biomass raise as the demand increasing
> with the purchase of ethanol?
> We will never switch to alternative energy sources until
> it is economical to do so. We all think about global warming
> and how we want to correct it. I think it every time I drive
> my suv to work, go skiing in my boat or fly my leaded fuel
> engine in my plane.
> Don
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=139904#139904
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Control Tube Guide Bushing (Lubrication) |
For small parts like pulleys I like 3 in 1 for electric motors. Dirt
doesn't seem to stick to it as much. It does penetrate into the bearings
and the excess wipes off easily.
My water rudder cables I wipe with hard grease and again I wipe as much off
as possible to give corrosion protection to those cables. When wiping the
cables remember to wear heavy gloves as well as the rags. That protects
your hands from finding a broken strand. So far no broken strands.
I have used motorcycle chain lube for some areas that require more
lubrication and penetration. Spray the area with the chain lube and quickly
wipe off the excess. You have to work fast with it as it goes from a
penetrating state to a sticky mass pretty quick. One area that I have used
the chain lube are water rudders.
BTW I also chain lube on the actuator arm for our old C band satellite dish.
It never froze at all with the chain lube regardless of outside temperature.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> mosquito56
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 3:10 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Elevator Control Tube Guide Bushing
> (Lubrication)
>
>
> <mosquito-56@hotmail.com>
>
> I have a couple questions since we are on the subject of
> lubrication. Is there a downside to lubing all the contact
> points on the plane?
> I have been spraying pulley, the yoke connections etc
> with wd-40 every month. Am I doing something wrong here?
> What is a good recommended oil lubricant and what should I spray?
> Don
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=139906#139906
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Jim,
Thanks! as succinct and realistic as I've ever heard that said.
Dave Hein
Here is some food for thought. My chemical engineer son tells me that
carbon dioxide is not a very effective greenhouse gas and others are more
effective. Also note that a trend of earth warming is not unusual in
itself. Years 900 to 1400 AD were warm. Possibly warmer in part. History
records the period as one of good living in Europe with longer growing
seasons and high crop production. Greenland actually had green fields and
supported animal grassing. Grapes were even grown there and settlements
prospered.
There appears to have been a connection between carbon dioxide levels and
warming, but the higher levels trailed rather than led in the time line.
There are other even warmer times in the earths past. The current push on
global warming is largely political and lacks scientific objectivity.
Producing fuel from a finished product like corn helps little, if any, and
makes little sense.
One the other hand burning oil is a waste of a valuable chemical stock which
will probably be seen in the future as a great folly. We need to get beyond
political correctness and apply real science and logic to the issue--not
politics and especially not the politics of the United Nations.
Much of what we are doing is still OK. Burning less oil, using more solar,
developing things like ocean wave energy, are all good. But making fuel
from corn and food grain is wasteful and diverts money from valid efforts.
And besides, history tells us we will still likely experience global warming
periods.
Jim Crowder
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Michel
Verheughe
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Fossil Fuels
On Oct 13, 2007, at 11:46 PM, Michael Gibbs wrote:
> I think the point Noel is making is two-fold.
I agree with you, Mike (and Noel, in that sense). Your points are also
what I have read. I was merely trying to illustrate what I think I
understand about the difference between fossil fuel and renewable fuel,
upon the content of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
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Getting ready to slosh my spar tubes on my Classic 4 Sptr with epoxy primer and
I'm trying to find out how much I need to mix up for one wing or one spar from
someone who has done this. Don't want to mix too much or too little. Leon Morris/Classic
4 Sptr/60%/Thinking Jabiru/ Flower Mound,TX
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox 2,rotax 582,VW 2100 swap |
I have a KF 2 with a 582 in it.it has 160TT.on engine + AF,I want to
swap it out with a VW 2100.that I want to build up my self.I have done a
lot of work on the VW engines.in sand rails etc.so I do know what I am
doing on them plus I have help.but never built a VW engine for a
airplane.so I need help in that area.but all so I am worred about the
weight + balance etc.can this work in my kitfox?I would like to know
befor I start building.please can any one direct me in the right
direction?all so where I can get the engine parts for aircraft use for
the VW engine. Thanks Steve Shinabery,St.Marys Oh, KF2,582 gray
head,TT160 hr.,N554KF
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Control Tube Guide Bushing (Lubrication) |
I use Tri-Flow and LPS1 to lubricate all the areas on the plane, never used
WD40.
Ray> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Elevator Control Tube Guide Bushing (Lubrica
tion)> From: mosquito-56@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:40:00 -0700
uito56" <mosquito-56@hotmail.com>> > I have a couple questions since we are
on the subject of lubrication. Is there a downside to lubing all the conta
ct points on the plane?> I have been spraying pulley, the yoke connections
etc with wd-40 every month. Am I doing something wrong here?> What is a goo
d recommended oil lubricant and what should I spray?> Don> > > > > Read thi
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Leon,
I was a nut for corrosion protection on my build, but, I did fall down when
it came to the spars. I had no problem tapping off the area that was going
to have ribs or false ribs on the outside and painting, but when it came to
the inside I could never figure out how to protect them more than the Aldine
could without building up too much primer in it. I was worried about not
getting the inserts in properly after and if I waited for the inserts to be
in it would leave buildup around the inserts and rivets. 9 years later and
still looking great inside.
Just food for thought.
John Oakley
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
l.morris@tx.rr.com
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:19 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Spar Sloshing
Getting ready to slosh my spar tubes on my Classic 4 Sptr with epoxy primer
and I'm trying to find out how much I need to mix up for one wing or one
spar from someone who has done this. Don't want to mix too much or too
little. Leon Morris/Classic 4 Sptr/60%/Thinking Jabiru/ Flower Mound,TX
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox 2,rotax 582,VW 2100 swap |
Steve I have a Kitfox IV Speedster with a type 1 VW. I went with the Valley
Engineering llc redrive to swing a big enough prop. The parts are available
through Great Plains Aircraft. Your model 2 might be a little light for the
added weight of the VW. Would definately fly, but I would want to grease
every landing. My original power was 1915cc, but am building a 2275cc now
and hope to have done in a couple of weeks. I too build VW sandrails, but
unlike the 6-7000 rpm 2332cc 150+ horsepower jobs these need to be low
compression low heat motors. Not trying to disuade you, but my Avid a
model is similar to yours and just does not seem like it would tolerate the
added weight. I think that the HKS might be a better match. Ron NB Ore
>From: Steve Shinabery <shinco@bright.net>
>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox 2,rotax 582,VW 2100 swap
>Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 20:17:34 -0400
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>I have a KF 2 with a 582 in it.it has 160TT.on engine + AF,I want to swap
>it out with a VW 2100.that I want to build up my self.I have done a lot of
>work on the VW engines.in sand rails etc.so I do know what I am doing on
>them plus I have help.but never built a VW engine for a airplane.so I need
>help in that area.but all so I am worred about the weight + balance etc.can
>this work in my kitfox?I would like to know befor I start building.please
>can any one direct me in the right direction?all so where I can get the
>engine parts for aircraft use for the VW engine. Thanks Steve
>Shinabery,St.Marys Oh, KF2,582 gray head,TT160 hr.,N554KF
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| Subject: | kee west voltage regulator? |
any body had a bad experiences with the kee west regulator ? malcolm
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Dave:
The HKS is a nice engine and parsimonious on the fuel to be sure, but
the general consensus in the aviation community is that the HKS engines
do not put out near the HP claimed, probably about 45-50 on a good day.
A fellow out at Cushing has one on a Model ll, loves it to death, but in
a comparison fly off with my 582 powered Model IV (100+ lbs heavier and
me 75lbs heavier than the other pilot) it was no contest, and I mean no
contest; the 582 decisively and easily outperformed it in every
parameter, hands down.
The HKS seems to work best, and shows up on, ultralights and homebuilts
with empty weights much less than 400lbs. The lighter the better. You
don't see them on heavier aircraft.
It's a nice engine, but it is way down on power compared to the 582.
Robert Beck
Has anyone any experience with this engine on a Model IV? It appears
to be a reasonable match for the 582 that performs so well on this
aircraft. It's a reasonable price and uses much less fuel than the two
stroke and should prove reliable.
Dave Goddard- Mod IV 1050/582
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox/Railroad Container Question |
I had looked at an ocean shipping container (which I think may be the
same thing) and, if I remember correctly, determined that the
measurements are the exterior size. That means the interior measured
less than 7' 10" which is the width of my Model 2 folded and it would be
just about impossible to slip the airplane into one with the wings on.
Have you measured the doorway and interior of this container? Having
stored my M2 in an old single car garage with one wing removed because
the doorway way only 7" 10" it was still a careful exercise to move it
in and out as the tail is almost that wide.
I agree they are very good quality and secure ( unless a thief has
access to a semi tractor and container transport rig).
--
Rex Hefferan
SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs
Pete Christensen wrote:
> <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Does anyone know if a 40'X8'X8' railroad container could be used as a
> hanger for a folded wing Kitfox? Cheap storage if it would.
>
> Pete
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Hi I converted my Kitfox III about 1.5 years ago and I can tell you the the HKS
produces a full 60 hp and can keep up with the 582 any day of the week. I have
298 hrs flying with the 582 and now have 198 hrs with the HKS > I can tell you
that the HKS preforms just as well as the 582 in takeoff run climb and does
much better in cruise and of course at 3 gph vs 4.5 of fuel it can fly 4.7 hrs
vs 3 hr with my 15 gal of fuel.
I'll fly against any 582 any day and it will be a real contest and the 582 will
lose.
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MNFlyer
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