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1. 12:17 AM - Re: Avid Builder (A Smith)
2. 12:24 AM - Re: New kitfox builder (A Smith)
3. 02:55 AM - Re: Re: Low flying (Michel Verheughe)
4. 03:12 AM - Re: Low flying WAS: Kitfox vs. Van's RV (Lynn Matteson)
5. 03:25 AM - Re: Low flying (dave)
6. 03:27 AM - Re: Low flying WAS: Kitfox vs. Van's RV (dave)
7. 03:28 AM - Re: Re: Low flying (Lynn Matteson)
8. 03:30 AM - Re: Doors open (dave)
9. 03:35 AM - Re: Low flying (dave)
10. 04:00 AM - Doors open (fox5flyer)
11. 04:48 AM - Re: Spam: Re: Low flying (John W. Hart)
12. 05:42 AM - Re: To Drag or not to Drag. That is the question. (Dacha)
13. 06:21 AM - Welcome (Harry Cieslar)
14. 07:36 AM - Re: To Drag or not to Drag. That is the question. (Jose M. Toro)
15. 08:22 AM - Re: To Drag or not to Drag. That is the question. (RRTRACK@aol.com)
16. 08:22 AM - New 914 Install (darinh)
17. 08:28 AM - Re: Kitfox vs. Van's RV (darinh)
18. 09:00 AM - Re: New 914 Install (Guy Buchanan)
19. 09:00 AM - Re: To Drag or not to Drag. That is the question. (Guy Buchanan)
20. 09:00 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox vs. Van's RV (Noel Loveys)
21. 09:04 AM - Re: Kitfox vs. Van's RV (dave)
22. 09:34 AM - Re: Re: Low flying (Noel Loveys)
23. 09:34 AM - Re: Re: Low flying WAS: Kitfox vs. Van's RV (Noel Loveys)
24. 09:34 AM - Re: Low flying WAS: Kitfox vs. Van's RV (Noel Loveys)
25. 09:53 AM - Re: New 914 Install (Noel Loveys)
26. 10:45 AM - Re: To Drag or not to Drag. That is the question. (John W. Hart)
27. 12:01 PM - Re: Re: Low flying (Lynn Matteson)
28. 12:05 PM - Re: Re: Low flying (Michel Verheughe)
29. 12:16 PM - Re: Re: Low flying (Lynn Matteson)
30. 12:16 PM - Bending Lexan (polycarbonate) (fox5flyer)
31. 12:19 PM - Re: Low flying WAS: Kitfox vs. Van's RV/ off topic (Lynn Matteson)
32. 12:35 PM - Re: Bending Lexan (polycarbonate) (Lynn Matteson)
33. 02:11 PM - Chili fly-in at Sandusky, OH...only slightly off topic (Lynn Matteson)
34. 03:56 PM - Re: New 914 Install (darinh)
35. 05:34 PM - Re: Low flying (dave)
36. 05:39 PM - Re: Chili fly-in at Sandusky, OH...only slightly off topic (dave)
37. 05:43 PM - Re: Bending Lexan (polycarbonate) (Noel Loveys)
38. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: Low flying (Noel Loveys)
39. 05:45 PM - Re: Bending Lexan (polycarbonate) (dave)
40. 05:47 PM - Re: Chili fly-in at Sandusky, OH...only slightly off topic (Steve Shinabery)
41. 05:55 PM - Re: Re: Low flying (Steve Shinabery)
42. 06:14 PM - Re: Chili fly-in at Sandusky, OH...only slightly off topic (Michael Gibbs)
43. 06:15 PM - Re: Re: New 914 Install (Michael Gibbs)
44. 06:30 PM - Bending Lexan (polycarbonate) (fox5flyer)
45. 09:00 PM - Re: Turtledeck kit/complete (Mnflyer)
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| Subject: | Re: Avid Builder |
The opinion with me is welcom aboard, all of you.
Albert
5TD NSI,Cap
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| Subject: | Re: New kitfox builder |
The Pa is pretty sick. Bad lungs, and on oxy. Not the way he planed to use
oxy. We had better plans in the fox. The NSI choice was not a good one.
Cooling was a big thing. Now I have to change everything. Going to take
some money and time. That puts me out for awhile. We miss your smilling body
around I.F. How are you doing??? Last we heard you were in Utah.
Albert
5TD, NSI, CAP
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On Oct 28, 2007, at 12:54 AM, dave wrote:
>> I stall, hear the turtledeck pop and mush down.
> Is that the noise that you hear last year ? The thud?
Exactly, Dave! I needed a passenger who could look backward to assess
my 'thud.' He confirmed that it was the turtledeck that was flexing. I
have the original model 3 turtledeck with the hinge in the middle. As
the plane stalls, it is the first surface to loose laminar flow and it
results in a flexing with a characteristic sound.
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Re: Low flying WAS: Kitfox vs. Van's RV |
Don't waste your time, Noel...I've already got it....it's on a 4x5
negative in my collection. : )
Lynn
do not archive
On Oct 27, 2007, at 10:20 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
> I only spent close to thirty years chasing the ultimate still
> frame. :-)
>
>
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If you come across some VGs , try puting a row of Vgs across your Lexan just ahead
of the Turtle deck, unless of course you like this noise :)
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Low flying WAS: Kitfox vs. Van's RV |
> Dave:
>
> Have you ever spun your 'Fox on the floats?.... How does it handle the
> stalls. I used to love spins in the C172 but with the pendulum effect of
> the Aerocets three feet below the floor I didn't think it was a good idea on
> the 'Fox.
>
> Noel
I have Not spun My Kitfox on floats but stalls are same as on wheels.
There hae been Kitfox on floats rollled though. I ain;t gonna say who :)
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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Michel-
The cost from here (USA) would be prohibitively expensive, but LP
Aeroplastics sells, (and maybe John McBean does too), a domed
turtledeck that resists flexing. Alas, you cannot bend the 'deck for
storage, but on the other hand it doesn't leak water in the rain
either. It (the 'deck) will fit into my cabin if I have to take it
off for some reason...trailering, etc...but just barely.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/420+ hrs
On Oct 28, 2007, at 5:54 AM, Michel Verheughe wrote:
>
> On Oct 28, 2007, at 12:54 AM, dave wrote:
>>> I stall, hear the turtledeck pop and mush down.
>> Is that the noise that you hear last year ? The thud?
>
> Exactly, Dave! I needed a passenger who could look backward to
> assess my 'thud.' He confirmed that it was the turtledeck that was
> flexing. I have the original model 3 turtledeck with the hinge in
> the middle. As the plane stalls, it is the first surface to loose
> laminar flow and it results in a flexing with a characteristic sound.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel Verheughe
> Norway
> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
>
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> are you flying a 4 with a 503? how much douse the plane weigh?? my mod 2 is 538
lb. my only open door flight was when the passenger door opening on take off.
it got real windy in there a couple of times.malcolm
my IV is about 550 and done one or two doors open or closed -- take offs , landing.
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
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Lynn, could you bend a piece of Lexan in a brake to make it work ?
Would only be 2 bends and lexan bends fairly nicely.
I have to replace my Windshield one day --maybe this winter it has been cracked
for nearly 2 years now and got a band-aid on it an taped :)
I have Lexan in stock here 1 and 3 mm , what is the thickness of the turledeck
?
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
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http://www.cfisher.com/
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Nice install Tom. Looks great!
Deke
S5, NE Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 10:11 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Doors open
>
>
>> are you flying a 4 with a 503? how much douse the plane weigh? my mod
>> 2 is 538 lb. my only open door flight was when the passenger door opening
>> on take off.
>
>
> Malcolm, yes a 503 in a classic 4. See pictures attached. It weighs 546
> and I weigh 160.
>
>
>> If you want to breeze and slip the 'fox take the doors off first... It
>> only takes a minute or so.
>
>
> Noel, I will probably take the doors off in the summer. When the doors
> are on I would like to open mine to take pictures.
>
> --------
> Tom Jones
> Classic IV, Phase one
> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg, WA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142254#142254
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>
> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/engine1_181.jpg
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A source for VG's. 100 for around $75. Doesn't include adhesive. Includes
template for mounting.
http://abianconi.hypermart.net/Vortex.htm
John Hart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 5:25 AM
Subject: Spam: Kitfox-List: Re: Low flying
If you come across some VGs , try puting a row of Vgs across your Lexan
just ahead of the Turtle deck, unless of course you like this noise :)
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142289#142289
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| Subject: | Re: To Drag or not to Drag. That is the question. |
Then maybe it should have wings too?
LeRoy
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Thanks to all those who welcomed me to participate in your group. It is
easy to get discourage without any local builders to support each other
Thanks.
Harry C
Avid Magnum Builder
Goderich, Ontario, Canada
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| Subject: | Re: To Drag or not to Drag. That is the question. |
Tricycle gear...what's that???
I absolutely agree with you Lynn!
Jos
----- Original Message ----
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 1:10:06 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: To Drag or not to Drag. That is the question.
I'm prejudiced toward the taildragger. These were the planes that I
grew up watching, and hoping to fly someday. They were the planes
that I saw while watching the war (WWII) from a great distance. It
just seems like the natural way for an airplane to sit on the ground.
I got my early training in C172's, a C180, and a Sport Star, but I
really learned how to fly, and solo, in my Kitfox. My very first solo
was at age 69 in my taildragger Kitfox. They are not to be feared or
to cause intimidation. And then there is that "snob appeal" that
comes when you master the t'dragger.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/420+ hrs
On Oct 27, 2007, at 10:40 AM, Pete Christensen wrote:
> <apeterchristensen@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I'm just getting back into flying after almost 30 years. I FLEW
> MOSTLY 150'S but I had 10 hours in an Aeronca 30 years ago. I'm
> afraid I'll have trouble getting used to a taildragger again. I
> could get a tri-gear Kitfox but I just like the looks of a
> taildragger. Any advice for the timid?
>
> Pete
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: To Drag or not to Drag. That is the question. |
I think for me it comes down to mission. I like the taildraggers for grass
field operations and feel I have a stronger off field airplane in case of an
emergency landing. But for paved runways I prefer the tri-gear.
I am encouraged by those like Phil Laker who have proven there tri-gears
can go into Alaska's strips along with the taildraggers. Good technique and
skills are important for both.
Mark
Kitfox 5 Vixen
912UL IVO
Hartford, Wisconsin
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Well, I never thought the day would come but here it is...the 914 arrived on Friday
and I had it hung on Saturday. It is a beauty thats for sure! One problem...I
was shorted the turbo control unit! When you fork over this kind of cash,
you hope that everything is there. I called the company I bought it from
and they are working on getting it for me so its not a big problem but it kind
of kills the excitement a bit. Now that the engine is hung, I am moving into
the electric install and panel so anyone who wants to drop by to help out (electrical
systems scare me) is more than welcome.
The Airmaster electric CS prop is also on its way, Hopefully I will be flying
come late spring.
For those of you who start to covet or get jealous...keep in mind I have to pay
for this and you jealousy will probably leave you fairly quickly. However, the
performance is amazing with the 914 so that will make up for it in my mind.
--------
Darin Hawkes
Series 7 (under Construction)
914 Turbo
Ogden, Utah
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox vs. Van's RV |
Rick,
Very well said...my thoughts exactly.
--------
Darin Hawkes
Series 7 (under Construction)
914 Turbo
Ogden, Utah
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| Subject: | Re: New 914 Install |
At 08:22 AM 10/28/2007, you wrote:
>The Airmaster electric CS prop is also on its way, Hopefully I will
>be flying come late spring.
>
>For those of you who start to covet or get jealous...keep in mind I
>have to pay for this and you jealousy will probably leave you fairly
>quickly. However, the performance is amazing with the 914 so that
>will make up for it in my mind.
Darin,
I thought you were just competing with someone for the "Most
Expensive Kitfox" award. I hope it has a full glass panel, anything
else just wouldn't be right. ;-)
I also hope you have Bob Nucholl's book on electrics,
(www.aeroelectric.com,) it's immensely helpful. Just make sure you
read the whole book BEFORE you start. (Not like I did.) Then you'll
get the design right from the start and avoid a bunch of problems later.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: To Drag or not to Drag. That is the question. |
At 07:40 AM 10/27/2007, you wrote:
>I'm afraid I'll have trouble getting used to a taildragger again. I
>could get a tri-gear Kitfox but I just like the looks of a
>taildragger. Any advice for the timid?
Sure. Go get checked out again in a Citabria or Luscombe. If it
terrifies you, then buy the trike. If you feel comfortable buy the taildragger.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox vs. Van's RV |
Stupid things??? I'm still doing them.
Earlier this fall a friend visited here with his Ducatti (ST3??) This is a
sport touring machine. Of course I had to take it for a little run. I went
up a hill behind a pick up truck at about 60 KPH. Slipping the clutch in
first gear. At the top of the hill I fire walled the throttle and before
you can say "Boo" I was through three or four gears and way too close to
200Kph for comfort.
Easing off the throttle allowed the bike to slow a little. The lightest
squeeze on the ABS brakes had me back to 80 Kph. No I didn't need to change
my shorts. I can only imagine trying to explain to a Mountie that I really
didn't intend to exceed the posted limit by over a hundred Kilometres per
hour! Even if it was only for the length of a cat's tail.
The fact I'd love to have one of those bikes makes me think I should have my
head examined. I figure you could time the validation of my license with a
stopwatch if I had one of those.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 3:07 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox vs. Van's RV
>
>
>
> Good point Darin. As it was pointed out to me once by a very
> experienced
> pilot, yes you can do aerobatics in a Kitfox. However, the margin for
> error is very small. Do it exactly right every time and you're a great
> pilot. Get it wrong and it can be very very wrong and usually
> unrecoverable for a variety of what should be oblivious
> reason. I think
> some years ago another wise person on the list suggested it is best to
> get into an aircraft designed to do what you intend to do in it. Like
> Noel said, the tri gear is not going to like the sand bars. And so the
> debate of how good a person thinks he or she is compared to what the
> aircraft was designed for goes on. I would rather not gamble with that
> side of luck. I do however hold sacred anyone's right to make that
> decision for their self. I to have had much fun in my life while doing
> stupid things. Seems the older I get the more stupid things I
> realize I
> have done. Not suggesting anyone here is stupid.
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox vs. Van's RV |
Rick, Can you elaborate on what this means ?
Thx
> Do it exactly right every time and you're a great
> pilot. Get it wrong and it can be very very wrong and usually
> unrecoverable for a variety of what should be oblivious reason.
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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If you never have to fold your turtle deck you could run a bit of solder
into the hinge. I got two turtle decks with my plane one with and one
without the hinge. I have yet to fir the hinged turtle deck. It will fit
in the cabin of the plane or the back of the car on top of the gas
containers.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Lynn Matteson
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:58 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Low flying
>
>
>
> Michel-
>
> The cost from here (USA) would be prohibitively expensive, but LP
> Aeroplastics sells, (and maybe John McBean does too), a domed
> turtledeck that resists flexing. Alas, you cannot bend the 'deck for
> storage, but on the other hand it doesn't leak water in the rain
> either. It (the 'deck) will fit into my cabin if I have to take it
> off for some reason...trailering, etc...but just barely.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/420+ hrs
>
>
> On Oct 28, 2007, at 5:54 AM, Michel Verheughe wrote:
>
> <michel@online.no>
> >
> > On Oct 28, 2007, at 12:54 AM, dave wrote:
> >>> I stall, hear the turtledeck pop and mush down.
> >> Is that the noise that you hear last year ? The thud?
> >
> > Exactly, Dave! I needed a passenger who could look backward to
> > assess my 'thud.' He confirmed that it was the turtledeck that was
> > flexing. I have the original model 3 turtledeck with the hinge in
> > the middle. As the plane stalls, it is the first surface to loose
> > laminar flow and it results in a flexing with a
> characteristic sound.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Michel Verheughe
> > Norway
> > Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Low flying WAS: Kitfox vs. Van's RV |
My plane runs out of aileron authority at a bit over 60 degrees of bank with
the floats on.... Then again I always have something in my floats... Rope,
Gas, Boots etc.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:57 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Low flying WAS: Kitfox vs. Van's RV
>
>
>
>
> > Dave:
> >
> > Have you ever spun your 'Fox on the floats?.... How does it
> handle the
> > stalls. I used to love spins in the C172 but with the
> pendulum effect of
> > the Aerocets three feet below the floor I didn't think it
> was a good idea on
> > the 'Fox.
> >
> > Noel
>
>
>
> I have Not spun My Kitfox on floats but stalls are same as on wheels.
>
> There hae been Kitfox on floats rollled though. I ain;t gonna
> say who :)
>
> --------
> Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
> Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
> http://www.cfisher.com/
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142290#142290
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Low flying WAS: Kitfox vs. Van's RV |
LOL I'll bet the next time you look you'll find changes you would like to
make.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Lynn Matteson
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:42 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low flying WAS: Kitfox vs. Van's RV
>
>
>
> Don't waste your time, Noel...I've already got it....it's on a 4x5
> negative in my collection. : )
>
> Lynn
> do not archive
>
> On Oct 27, 2007, at 10:20 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
>
> > I only spent close to thirty years chasing the ultimate still
> > frame. :-)
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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Darrin:
If you are installing an electrically complicated system in your plane
do
yourself a favour. Make an interconnect block diagram of your
installations
before you start with the side cuts. Then as you go through he
installation
make sure you make updates to your drawings of any changes you may make.
This will make future troubleshooting and upgrades a lot easier not to
mention a smoother installation in the first place.
Be sure to keep a copy of the interconnect diagram in the technical log
and
your build log.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy
Buchanan
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New 914 Install
At 08:22 AM 10/28/2007, you wrote:
The Airmaster electric CS prop is also on its way, Hopefully I will be
flying come late spring.
For those of you who start to covet or get jealous...keep in mind I have
to
pay for this and you jealousy will probably leave you fairly quickly.
However, the performance is amazing with the 914 so that will make up
for it
in my mind.
Darin,
I thought you were just competing with someone for the "Most
Expensive Kitfox" award. I hope it has a full glass panel, anything else
just wouldn't be right. ;-)
I also hope you have Bob Nucholl's book on electrics, (
<http://www.aeroelectric.com/> www.aeroelectric .com
<http://www.aeroelectric.com/> ,) it's immensely helpful. Just make sure
you
read the whole book BEFORE you start. (Not like I did.) Then you'll get
the
design right from the start and avoid a bunch of problems later.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | To Drag or not to Drag. That is the question. |
For what it's worth, I've seen a lot of Cessna 206's flying in and out of
several of the gravel bar strips in Alaska that I used to fly the Maule
M6-235 into. The big difference between the Maule and the C-206 was that at
gross, the Maule would take off with less ground run than the 206. The
C-206's had nosewheels of the 7.00x6" variety, and the mains were as big as
the tundra tires we had on the Maule. Also saw a couple broken nose gear in
two different strips.
John Hart
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RRTRACK@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: To Drag or not to Drag. That is the question.
I think for me it comes down to mission. I like the taildraggers for grass
field operations and feel I have a stronger off field airplane in case of an
emergency landing. But for paved runways I prefer the tri-gear.
I am encouraged by those like Phil Laker who have proven there tri-gears
can go into Alaska's strips along with the taildraggers. Good technique and
skills are important for both.
Mark
Kitfox 5 Vixen
912UL IVO
Hartford, Wisconsin
_____
See
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The LP Aeroplastics turtledeck material is about .100" to .125" as I
recall, maybe thinner than that.
I can't visualize using a brake to bend Lexan...seems to me it's
gotta be heated to bend. I'm not sure why you're asking about bending
the Lexan....
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/420+ hrs
On Oct 28, 2007, at 6:34 AM, dave wrote:
>
> Lynn, could you bend a piece of Lexan in a brake to make it work ?
> Would only be 2 bends and lexan bends fairly nicely.
>
> I have to replace my Windshield one day --maybe this winter it has
> been cracked for nearly 2 years now and got a band-aid on it an
> taped :)
> I have Lexan in stock here 1 and 3 mm , what is the thickness of
> the turledeck ?
>
> --------
> Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
> Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
> http://www.cfisher.com/
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No, Dave, I don't mind the noise of the turtledeck popping, it's my
stall warning. :-)
Yes, Lynn, I could have a different turtledeck since I never need to
fold the wings. The rain water problem is also a concern. But it is not
in my immediate list of to-do. The strange thing is that, each time I
come in the hangar to do some work ... I find an excuse to fly instead.
Can you understand that? :-)
Noel, I don't know about solder, I run a tape along the hinge to keep
water away, Still, if it rains, some water comes in. Mind you, my
Kitfox is never left outside but when I spend the night at a different
airfield, it may happen.
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
Do not archive
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If I had to do it...and I'm glad I don't....I'd run a length of tape
down the hinge. I can't imagine soldering that aluminum hinge, anyway.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/420+ hrs
On Oct 28, 2007, at 12:31 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
>
> If you never have to fold your turtle deck you could run a bit of
> solder
> into the hinge. I got two turtle decks with my plane one with and one
> without the hinge. I have yet to fir the hinged turtle deck. It
> will fit
> in the cabin of the plane or the back of the car on top of the gas
> containers.
>
> Noel
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| Subject: | Bending Lexan (polycarbonate) |
Lynn, I'm not sure why he's asking either, but Lexan bends easily in brake.
Depends on what you want to use it for.
Lots of folks use a piece of bent Lexan for a trim tab.
Deke
S5
Northeast MI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Low flying
>
> The LP Aeroplastics turtledeck material is about .100" to .125" as I
> recall, maybe thinner than that.
> I can't visualize using a brake to bend Lexan...seems to me it's gotta be
> heated to bend. I'm not sure why you're asking about bending the
> Lexan....
>
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/420+ hrs
>
>
> On Oct 28, 2007, at 6:34 AM, dave wrote:
>
>>
>> Lynn, could you bend a piece of Lexan in a brake to make it work ?
>> Would only be 2 bends and lexan bends fairly nicely.
>>
>> I have to replace my Windshield one day --maybe this winter it has been
>> cracked for nearly 2 years now and got a band-aid on it an taped :)
>> I have Lexan in stock here 1 and 3 mm , what is the thickness of the
>> turledeck ?
>>
>> --------
>> Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
>> Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
>> http://www.cfisher.com/
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Low flying WAS: Kitfox vs. Van's RV/ off topic |
You mean like burning in the sky over the telephone wires that I
didn't see when I was under the black cloth?
Lynn
do not archive
On Oct 28, 2007, at 12:31 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
>
> LOL I'll bet the next time you look you'll find changes you would
> like to
> make.
>
> Noel
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:42 AM
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Low flying WAS: Kitfox vs. Van's RV
>>
>>
>>
>> Don't waste your time, Noel...I've already got it....it's on a 4x5
>> negative in my collection. : )
>>
>> Lynn
>> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Bending Lexan (polycarbonate) |
Hmmmm...ok, I learn something new every day.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/420+ hrs
do not archive
On Oct 28, 2007, at 4:13 PM, fox5flyer wrote:
> <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
>
> Lynn, I'm not sure why he's asking either, but Lexan bends easily
> in brake. Depends on what you want to use it for.
> Lots of folks use a piece of bent Lexan for a trim tab.
> Deke
> S5
> Northeast MI
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Low flying
>
>
>>
>> The LP Aeroplastics turtledeck material is about .100" to .125" as
>> I recall, maybe thinner than that.
>> I can't visualize using a brake to bend Lexan...seems to me it's
>> gotta be heated to bend. I'm not sure why you're asking about
>> bending the Lexan....
>>
>>
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Grass Lake, Michigan
>> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
>> flying w/420+ hrs
>>
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2007, at 6:34 AM, dave wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Lynn, could you bend a piece of Lexan in a brake to make it work ?
>>> Would only be 2 bends and lexan bends fairly nicely.
>>>
>>> I have to replace my Windshield one day --maybe this winter it
>>> has been cracked for nearly 2 years now and got a band-aid on
>>> it an taped :)
>>> I have Lexan in stock here 1 and 3 mm , what is the thickness
>>> of the turledeck ?
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
>>> Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
>>> http://www.cfisher.com/
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Chili fly-in at Sandusky, OH...only slightly off topic |
It looks like the flying season is winding down around the Northern
Mid-East if the number of fly-ins posted is any indication. In the
Michigan, Indiana, Illinois and Ohio areas, only two fly-ins were
listed. I attended the Chili-fest at Sandusky, OH, about 75 miles
from home today. I ran into Steve Shinabery, a frequent poster here
on the list, while I was wandering around the ramp. Steve is planning
to install a Jabiru 2200 when his 2-cylinder Rotax engine gets tired.
It's always great to run into fellow Kitfox'ers when attending these
get-togethers, and if Steve hadn't mentioned that he has a Kitfox, I
probably would not have met him. Maybe we all ought to proudly wear
an I.D. badge when we attend these informal gatherings, so others can
see that we fly a Kitfox, one of the best homebuilts around.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/420+ hrs
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| Subject: | Re: New 914 Install |
Guy,
I don't think I am even in the top 10 most expensive Kitfoxes, and if I was, that
is not my intent. I just want an airplane that will do what I want it to do
and here in Utah and Idaho, we often get DA's of over 11k feet with a 912 I
would be limited to flying the valleys in many places. Besides, there are several
on the list with 914's and at least one I know of that has a 914 and amphibs!
Keep in mind, I paid nearly much less for my kit than a new Series 7 so
I will be in it the same as someone who bought a new kit and installed a 912s
(otherwise, the 914 would not have been an option). For the panel, I am going
with a D100 with backup 2 1/4" ASI and Altimeter, Avmap EKP-IV, and GRT EIS.
The EIS is definately more expensive than dial gauges but if you add up all the
instruments the D100 replaces, it is basically a wash (actually much cheaper
if you went with high end instruments).
Noel,
See, you are already scaring me with your talk of diagrams and such! Actually,
I do have Bob's book and am not too intimidated by the electrical system. My
engineering firm has a sister electrical company that does all our controls,
SCADA and Telemetry and there are a couple brilliant sparkies that I can utilize.
--------
Darin Hawkes
Series 7 (under Construction)
914 Turbo
Ogden, Utah
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> I can't visualize using a brake to bend Lexan...seems to me it's
> gotta be heated to bend. I'm not sure why you're asking about bending
> the Lexan....
>
>
>
Sure you can bend Lexan in a brake .
would you like a picture or a video clip ?
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Chili fly-in at Sandusky, OH...only slightly off topic |
Lynn, A few us us met in Kitfoxes and various aircaft at Pelee island which
is a bout 20 miles or so from Sandusky in Sept. There was close to 80 that flew
in I think. 3 of us on amphibsI was still on floats them and makes flying
across water lower more accommodating, for me anyhow.
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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| Subject: | Bending Lexan (polycarbonate) |
I used a piece of mild aluminium (non-aviation grade) for a rudder trim tab.
The soft aluminium allows me to make corrections to the tab on the ground.
That reminds me when I install the 912 I'll have to reverse that tab.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Lynn Matteson
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 5:04 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Bending Lexan (polycarbonate)
>
>
>
> Hmmmm...ok, I learn something new every day.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/420+ hrs
> do not archive
>
>
>
> On Oct 28, 2007, at 4:13 PM, fox5flyer wrote:
>
> > <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
> >
> > Lynn, I'm not sure why he's asking either, but Lexan bends easily
> > in brake. Depends on what you want to use it for.
> > Lots of folks use a piece of bent Lexan for a trim tab.
> > Deke
> > S5
> > Northeast MI
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson"
> <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 1:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Low flying
> >
> >
> >>
> >> The LP Aeroplastics turtledeck material is about .100" to
> .125" as
> >> I recall, maybe thinner than that.
> >> I can't visualize using a brake to bend Lexan...seems to me it's
> >> gotta be heated to bend. I'm not sure why you're asking about
> >> bending the Lexan....
> >>
> >>
> >> Lynn Matteson
> >> Grass Lake, Michigan
> >> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> >> flying w/420+ hrs
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 28, 2007, at 6:34 AM, dave wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Lynn, could you bend a piece of Lexan in a brake to make
> it work ?
> >>> Would only be 2 bends and lexan bends fairly nicely.
> >>>
> >>> I have to replace my Windshield one day --maybe this winter it
> >>> has been cracked for nearly 2 years now and got a band-aid on
> >>> it an taped :)
> >>> I have Lexan in stock here 1 and 3 mm , what is the thickness
> >>> of the turledeck ?
> >>>
> >>> --------
> >>> Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
> >>> Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
> >>> http://www.cfisher.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Tape will keep the water out but solder will fill the voids in the hinge and
make the turtle deck mechanically stronger. Covering the hinge with a layer
or two fibreglass may do the same thing lighter.
I'm just trying to figure a way of giving your TD a bit more strength
without actually building a new one.
Noel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Michel Verheughe
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 4:35 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Low flying
>
>
>
> No, Dave, I don't mind the noise of the turtledeck popping, it's my
> stall warning. :-)
> Yes, Lynn, I could have a different turtledeck since I never need to
> fold the wings. The rain water problem is also a concern. But
> it is not
> in my immediate list of to-do. The strange thing is that, each time I
> come in the hangar to do some work ... I find an excuse to
> fly instead.
> Can you understand that? :-)
> Noel, I don't know about solder, I run a tape along the hinge to keep
> water away, Still, if it rains, some water comes in. Mind you, my
> Kitfox is never left outside but when I spend the night at a
> different
> airfield, it may happen.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel Verheughe
> Norway
> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
>
> Do not archive
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Bending Lexan (polycarbonate) |
Deke,
The reason is Lynn asked in the first place or am I confused here ?
I have bent plenty of lexan but still got alum Turtledeck here .
Dave
Lynn, I'm not sure why he's asking either, but Lexan bends easily in brake.
Depends on what you want to use it for.
Lots of folks use a piece of bent Lexan for a trim tab.
Deke
S5
Northeast MI
> Michel-
>
> The cost from here (USA) would be prohibitively expensive, but LP
> Aeroplastics sells, (and maybe John McBean does too), a domed
> turtledeck that resists flexing. Alas, you cannot bend the 'deck for
> storage, but on the other hand it doesn't leak water in the rain
> either. It (the 'deck) will fit into my cabin if I have to take it
> off for some reason...trailering, etc...but just barely.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/420+ hrs
> On Oct 28, 2007, at 5:54 AM, Michel Verheughe wrote:
>
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Chili fly-in at Sandusky, OH...only slightly off topic |
Thanks Lynn..I was glad 2 run in to you too.and here I thought that I
was the only Kitfoxer around my neck of the woods.and I can not wait to
read about you when I get my new Mag for this month.I started to feel
kind of lost..untill I ran in to you.hope 2 see you again Lynn.and good
luck to you..Steve Shinabery N554KF KF2 582 for now
Lynn Matteson wrote:
>
> It looks like the flying season is winding down around the Northern
> Mid-East if the number of fly-ins posted is any indication. In the
> Michigan, Indiana, Illinois and Ohio areas, only two fly-ins were
> listed. I attended the Chili-fest at Sandusky, OH, about 75 miles from
> home today. I ran into Steve Shinabery, a frequent poster here on the
> list, while I was wandering around the ramp. Steve is planning to
> install a Jabiru 2200 when his 2-cylinder Rotax engine gets tired.
> It's always great to run into fellow Kitfox'ers when attending these
> get-togethers, and if Steve hadn't mentioned that he has a Kitfox, I
> probably would not have met him. Maybe we all ought to proudly wear an
> I.D. badge when we attend these informal gatherings, so others can see
> that we fly a Kitfox, one of the best homebuilts around.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Grass Lake, Michigan
> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
> flying w/420+ hrs
>
>
> 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM
>
>
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Hi Dave..you can use a break to bend Lexan.we do this at Honda engine
plant all the time.and it works great..even with out heat.some times
though it does break.BUT that Lexan is tuff stuff.belive me it does
work. Steve Shinabery N554KF KF2
dave wrote:
>
>
>
>> I can't visualize using a brake to bend Lexan...seems to me it's
>> gotta be heated to bend. I'm not sure why you're asking about bending
>> the Lexan....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Sure you can bend Lexan in a brake .
>
> would you like a picture or a video clip ?
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| Subject: | Re: Chili fly-in at Sandusky, OH...only slightly off topic |
Lynn sez:
>Maybe we all ought to proudly wear an I.D. badge when we attend
>these informal gatherings, so others can see that we fly a Kitfox...
Sounds like we have a volunteer to make the name badges, folks! :-)
Mike G.
N728KF
Phoenix, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: New 914 Install |
Darin sez:
>...here in Utah and Idaho, we often get DA's of over 11k feet with a
>912 I would be limited to flying the valleys in many places.
I can't speak for the 912, but the 912S performs well at altitude for
a normally-aspirated engine. My Model IV-1200 Speedster was equipped
with a 912S and Ivo medium prop. I took it to 17,500 feet (density
altitude that day was 19,200) and it was still climbing 300 feet per
minute (measured, not indicated). It was weighed down with me (200
lbs) and 3/4 tanks of fuel. Mind you, after leveling off the cruise
performance was pretty underwhelming.
That said, I'd dearly love to see a turbo-normalized 912S on the
front of my new 'fox some day...
Mike G.
N728KF
Phoenix, AZ
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| Subject: | Bending Lexan (polycarbonate) |
No, it's probably me that is confused, or perhaps we all are.
Agreed, Lexan bends nicely in a brake. Someone said something about heating
the Lexan first, but I don't think that works very well.
Deke
S5
NE MI
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:44 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Bending Lexan (polycarbonate)
>
> Deke,
> The reason is Lynn asked in the first place or am I confused here ?
> I have bent plenty of lexan but still got alum Turtledeck here .
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> Lynn, I'm not sure why he's asking either, but Lexan bends easily in
> brake.
> Depends on what you want to use it for.
> Lots of folks use a piece of bent Lexan for a trim tab.
> Deke
> S5
> Northeast MI
>
>
>> Michel-
>>
>> The cost from here (USA) would be prohibitively expensive, but LP
>> Aeroplastics sells, (and maybe John McBean does too), a domed
>> turtledeck that resists flexing. Alas, you cannot bend the 'deck for
>> storage, but on the other hand it doesn't leak water in the rain
>> either. It (the 'deck) will fit into my cabin if I have to take it
>> off for some reason...trailering, etc...but just barely.
>>
>> Lynn Matteson
>> Grass Lake, Michigan
>> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
>> flying w/420+ hrs
>> On Oct 28, 2007, at 5:54 AM, Michel Verheughe wrote:
>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Turtledeck kit/complete |
Hi Dave I sent you a PM.
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GB
MNFlyer
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