Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Fri 11/16/07


Total Messages Posted: 22



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:53 AM - Bird Strike, was News alerts "Kitfox " accidents (fox5flyer)
     2. 04:38 AM - Re: Bird Strike, was News alerts "Kitfox " accidents (Lynn Matteson)
     3. 05:28 AM - Re: Re: uncoordinated turns (Noel Loveys)
     4. 06:09 AM - Re: Cabin Heater question (Tom Jones)
     5. 06:44 AM - Re: Re: News alerts "Kitfox " accidents (Noel Loveys)
     6. 07:52 AM - Re: News alerts "Kitfox " accidents (Bob)
     7. 08:12 AM - Re: Bird Strike, was News alerts "Kitfox " accidents (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
     8. 08:34 AM - Re: Re: Cabin Heater question (Noel Loveys)
     9. 10:31 AM - flight supplements (wannafly)
    10. 01:06 PM - Re: flight supplements (kcflys)
    11. 02:14 PM - Re: migratory birds - was News alerts "Kitfox " accidents (Marco Menezes)
    12. 02:20 PM - Re: flight supplements (dave)
    13. 02:21 PM - New Topics (was: Re: Bird Strike, was News alerts "Kitfox " (dave)
    14. 02:54 PM - Aerocarb ACV-C04 (Francisco dcubj3 Terra)
    15. 05:48 PM - Re: Aerocarb ACV-C04 (steve eccles)
    16. 05:48 PM - Power Diagram for Review (darinh)
    17. 05:49 PM - Re: Re: flight supplements (Noel Loveys)
    18. 06:53 PM - Power Diagram for Review (fox5flyer)
    19. 08:49 PM - Re: Power Diagram for Review (darinh)
    20. 09:39 PM - transponder kt76 tso  (jerry evans)
    21. 10:33 PM - Re: Power Diagram for Review (Lowell Fitt)
    22. 10:47 PM - Re: transponder kt76 tso (84KF)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:53:54 AM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Bird Strike, was News alerts "Kitfox " accidents
    No, Jim. I think we're all talking about the same accident in Howard Firms Purple Monster. It still amazes me that a bird could get past the spinning prop and into the engine compartment, but it apparently did. Howard had some extremely bad luck, especially after building another Fox and having it burn when the hangar caught fire. Has anybody talked to him in the past year? do not archive Deke Morisse S5/NE Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:03 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Bird Strike, was News alerts "Kitfox " accidents I think you both are talking about two different accidents. The one I mentioned happened to Howard Firm from Virginia Mn in a Kitfos 4. He told me about finding the bird (I think a seagull) lodged behind the engine. Jim Chuk, Avid MK IV, Chisholm Mn > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:51:31 -0600 > From: josandt@verizon.net > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Bird Strike, was News alerts "Kitfox " accidents > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > From: Tom Jones <nahsikhs@elltel.net> > Date: 2007/11/15 Thu AM 08:11:53 CST > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Bird Strike, was News alerts "Kitfox " accidents > > > > > During the investigation, the residue of feathers was found in the engine > > compartment and it was found that the impact broke off the electric primer > > control that allowed pressurized fuel to escape and ignite into the > > compartment. That's how I recall it anyway. If anyone else can add to it, > > please do. > > > Deke, that is the way I remember the demise of the "Purple Monster". I recall that the pilot had an encounter with an eagle a while before that. The eagle hit the prop and went through it and hit the windshield with no damage...to the prop or windshield. I think it was a Warp Drive prop. Do not archive > > -------- > Tom Jones > Classic IV, Phase one > 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp > Ellensburg, WA > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146189#146189 > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook ' together at last. Get it now!


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    Time: 04:38:08 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Bird Strike, was News alerts "Kitfox " accidents
    I haven't heard a word about Howard. He was kind enough to send me, gratis, the reamers that I needed to start building my plane way back in Sept. of 2004. This was just one of the many acts of kindness that I've experienced from members of this group/list. Another reason that I gladly give when it comes "pledge time" at Matronics. Lynn Matteson Grass Lake, Michigan Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 flying w/420+ hrs do not archive On Nov 16, 2007, at 6:50 AM, fox5flyer wrote: > No, Jim. I think we're all talking about the same accident in > Howard Firms Purple Monster. It still amazes me that a bird could > get past the spinning prop and into the engine compartment, but it > apparently did. Howard had some extremely bad luck, especially > after building another Fox and having it burn when the hangar > caught fire. Has anybody talked to him in the past year? > do not archive > Deke Morisse > S5/NE Michigan >


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    Time: 05:28:12 AM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: uncoordinated turns
    It's not the torque of the engine I was thinking about. It's the fact that the air from the prop swirls around the fuselage in the direction of the prop rotation. Several low and slow designs have the offset vertical stab. The problem with is is if you change the direction of prop rotation, like my 582 to 912 change out, the offset will be going the wrong way. You didn't notice yourself pressing the right pedal at cruise? Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clint Bazzill Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: uncoordinated turns Yea, those 582's sure do put out a lot of torque. > From: noelloveys@yahoo.ca > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: uncoordinated turns > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:17:16 -0330 > > > If you put as much of a blended strake as the Maule on your plane you may > want to consider also putting an offset into your vertical stab and the > strake to help counteract the rotation of the propeller. > > Reminds me of an older Stinson. > > Noel > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > > rudderdancer > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:37 AM > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: uncoordinated turns > > > > <jhenryhall@mac.com> > > > > Kitfoxmike, MikeG, and Dave, > > > > Thanks for the replies. Attached is a picture of a > > Maule M-5 with the type of vertical I was referring to. > > By the way, I went out to the dry lake again this > > afternoon for practice. It's getting a bit better each time. > > Even the landings went better. The fox really does get off > > the ground quickly and climbs out steeply. > > > > Regards, > > Jack > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=145594#145594 > > > > > > > > > > Attachments: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/maule_m_5_485.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > &=============== > > >


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    Time: 06:09:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Cabin Heater question
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I think I have the idea now. Catch some ram air with an exhaust muffler muff and add pot scrubbers as needed. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV, Phase one 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146423#146423


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    Time: 06:44:04 AM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: News alerts "Kitfox " accidents
    Mal: You're lucky you live south of the 49th. Up here there are federal laws against interfering with wildlife in the manner you described. If you come up this way just steer clear of the birds and other wildlife. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Malcolmbru@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:07 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: News alerts "Kitfox " accidents several times in my old plane I could chase Canadian gees so hard they would fly down into wooded beaver flooding to get away from me. it took some hard turns and a good eye. but moor times than not I would loose them before that would happen mal _____ See


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    Time: 07:52:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: News alerts "Kitfox " accidents
    From: "Bob" <dswaim1119@comcast.net>
    Real danger? Usually just as very extensive leading edge or cowl damage, but absolutely! Per http://www.birdstrike.org/ Over 195 people have been killed world-wide as a result of bird strikes since 1988. An estimated 80% of bird strikes to civil aircraft in USA go unreported. Waterfowl (31%), gulls (26%), and raptors (17%) represented 74% of the reported bird strikes causing damage to USA civil aircraft, 1990-2006. A 12-lb Canada goose struck by a 150-mph aircraft at lift-off generates the force of a 1,000-lb weight dropped from a height of 10 feet. Starlings are "feathered bullets", having a body density 27% higher than herring gulls. As for a couple of reports at Kitfox speeds... Cessna 152 OCT 2003 A Cessna 152 experienced a bird strike, forcing the pilot to make an emergency landing. VMC conditions prevailed at the time. The airplane sustained substantial damage. The airplane was found inverted; a quarter of the windshield was recovered. A bird was found in the airplane. The instructor stated that the student was practicing ground reference maneuvers at about 1,000 feet AGL at an indicated airspeed of 90 knots. While coming out of a left turn, a sudden noise followed by debris was felt in the cockpit. The instructor stated that the airplane was missing the windshield and he could not maintain altitude after applying full throttle. The airplane impacted a field nose first and came to a halt inverted. The instructor and student suffered minor injuries. >From an OH 58 (Jetranger equivalent) helicopter: We were flying 700 AGL at 80 knots when suddenly there was a loud crash, and the right half of the windshield (pilot side) shattered, sending 80 percent of the Plexiglas windshield into the cockpit where it struck my face and chest. I quickly scanned the gauges and determined that the helicopter was still functioning. Bob Vixen partially completed, no engine Damascus, MD -------- Remember that internet advice may only be worth what you pay. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146435#146435


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    Time: 08:12:33 AM PST US
    From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk <thesupe@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Bird Strike, was News alerts "Kitfox " accidents
    I stand corrected. I never met Howard till after he was almost done with h is last plane. I never saw his first one and never heard that it had a name. With the mention of an eagle, I though it was two different accedents. I did call Howard's place last summer, he had some leftover paint and I needed some, b ut his wife said he was working out of the country, she didn't say where, but I got the impression it was in the middle East T hanks, Jim Chuk Avid MK IV MN From: fox5flyer@idealwifi.netTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: Kitfox-L ist: Bird Strike, was News alerts "Kitfox " accidentsDate: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:50:09 -0500 No, Jim. I think we're all talking about the same accident in Howard Firms Purple Monster. It still amazes me that a bird could get past the spinnin g prop and into the engine compartment, but it apparently did. Howard had some extremely bad luck, especially after building another Fox and having i t burn when the hangar caught fire. Has anybody talked to him in the past year? do not archive Deke Morisse S5/NE Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:03 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Bird Strike, was News alerts "Kitfox " accide nts I think you both are talking about two different accidents. The one I ment ioned happened to Howard Firm from Virginia Mn in a Kitfos 4. He told me about finding the bird (I think a seagull) lodged behind the engine. Jim C huk, Avid MK IV, Chisholm Mn> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:51:31 -0600> From : josandt@verizon.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Bird Strike, was News alerts "Kitfox " accidents> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > From: Tom Jone s <nahsikhs@elltel.net>> Date: 2007/11/15 Thu AM 08:11:53 CST> To: kitfox-l ist@matronics.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Bird Strike, was News alerts " khs@elltel.net>> > > > During the investigation, the residue of feathers wa s found in the engine > > compartment and it was found that the impact brok e off the electric primer > > control that allowed pressurized fuel to esca pe and ignite into the > > compartment. That's how I recall it anyway. If a nyone else can add to it, > > please do. > > > Deke, that is the way I reme mber the demise of the "Purple Monster". I recall that the pilot had an enc ounter with an eagle a while before that. The eagle hit the prop and went t hrough it and hit the windshield with no damage...to the prop or windshield . I think it was a Warp Drive prop. Do not archive> > --------> Tom Jones> Classic IV, Phase one> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp> Ellensburg, WA> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopi c.php?p=146189#146189> > > > > > > Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook ' together at last. Get it now! href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chr ef="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref ="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _________________________________________________________________ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf=E9. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Oc tWLtagline


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    Time: 08:34:02 AM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: Cabin Heater question
    Don't forget the COD... CO Detector! Noel Do no archive > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:37 AM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Cabin Heater question > > > > Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I think I have the idea > now. Catch some ram air with an exhaust muffler muff and add > pot scrubbers as needed. > > -------- > Tom Jones > Classic IV, Phase one > 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp > Ellensburg, WA > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146423#146423 > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:31:42 AM PST US
    Subject: flight supplements
    From: "wannafly" <wannaflyfox4@hotmail.com>
    where do you get flight supplements for the U.S. We have them for Canada that give you all the info for all the listed airports and I am assuming there would be a similar one for the United States. I have found the maps but not the supplements. Help...... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146456#146456


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    Time: 01:06:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: flight supplements
    From: "kcflys" <kcflys@pacbell.net>
    Sounds like you may be looking for an Airport Facility Directory. They can be ordered on line at www.naco.faa.gov . Be aware there is not just one but they come in areas ie; Northwest=Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming. -------- Keith C. kitfox wannabe C-150 Rancho Cordova CA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146474#146474


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    Time: 02:14:41 PM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: RE: migratory birds - was News alerts "Kitfox " accidents
    Actually, migratory waterfowl are also protected by federal law in the U.S. But we all know Mal was just kidding and would never violate federal law. Right Mal? ;-) do not archive Noel Loveys <noelloveys@yahoo.ca> wrote: Mal: You're lucky you live south of the 49th. Up here there are federal laws against interfering with wildlife in the manner you described. If you come up this way just steer clear of the birds and other wildlife. Noel -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Malcolmbru@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:07 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: News alerts "Kitfox " accidents several times in my old plane I could chase Canadian gees so hard they would fly down into wooded beaver flooding to get away from me. it took some hard turns and a good eye. but moor times than not I would loose them before that would happen mal --------------------------------- See href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com Marco Menezes Model 2 582 N99KX --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage.


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    Time: 02:20:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: flight supplements
    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    I have not bought one since i got a GPS with moving map and all the airport data. Speaking of GPS my Screen has black lines vertically on it now- i think the screen about to die. -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146486#146486


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    Time: 02:21:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: New Topics (was: Re: Bird Strike, was News alerts "Kitfox
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    From: "dave" <dave@cfisher.com>
    Mike , thanks for reply. I guess it not a big deal then. -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146487#146487


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    Time: 02:54:52 PM PST US
    From: "Francisco dcubj3 Terra" <dcubj3@terra.com.br>
    Subject: Aerocarb ACV-C04
    Hi! Do you know if someone are using Kitfox V with Continental O-200 or Jabiru 3300 engine with ACV-C04 Aerocarb? which vantages? Any troubles? Tks FD Building Kitfox V 0-200 Engine Brazil, SA


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    Time: 05:48:44 PM PST US
    From: "steve eccles" <eccles@Chartermi.net>
    Subject: Aerocarb ACV-C04
    Sorry FD I do not , I wish I could be of more help Steve From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Francisco dcubj3 Terra Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 4:11 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Aerocarb ACV-C04 Hi! Do you know if someone are using Kitfox V with Continental O-200 or Jabiru 3300 engine with ACV-C04 Aerocarb? which vantages? Any troubles? Tks FD Building Kitfox V 0-200 Engine Brazil, SA <http://promos.hotbar.com/promos/promodll.dll?RunPromo&El=&SG=&RAND=50369&pa rtner=hbtools> Upgrade Your Email - Click here!


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    Time: 05:48:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Power Diagram for Review
    From: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
    Guys, I have had this post on the Aeroelectric list with no bites, so I thought I would ask it to you guys. I need some of you electrical geniuses to review my diagram and critique it and let me know if it will work or what needs to change. Here is my setup for background: Rotax 914 with internal (small alternator) and external 40 amp alternator. My plan is to have the 40A be the primary and the 18A (internal) be a backup on a switch. Other than that it should be a standard Kitfox power system. The diagram shows a "Generic Ford" regulator for the primary alternator but in reality, my alternator has an built in regulator. The Rotax regulator will be connected to the backup. Please let me know what needs to change as I am covering the fuse on Monday and I would like to do the electrical system next. Do not archive -------- Darin Hawkes Series 7 (under Construction) 914 Turbo Ogden, Utah Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146520#146520 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/rotax_914_modified_199.pdf


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    Time: 05:49:15 PM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: flight supplements
    One of the edge connectors on the display screen is ready to go on vacation. You will find more and more lines until you notice you only have a few white lines. Time to put the old unit out to stud and get a new one. In your case, like me, get a water proof one. Noel > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 6:49 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: flight supplements > > > > I have not bought one since i got a GPS with moving map and > all the airport data. > > Speaking of GPS my Screen has black lines vertically on it now- > i think the screen about to die. > > -------- > Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada > Flying Videos and Kitfox Info > http://www.cfisher.com/ > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146486#146486 > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:53:47 PM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Power Diagram for Review
    I wish I could help you out Darin, but even though I managed to muddle through my electrical system one wire at a time, this isn't my strong area. I'm surprised that nobody responded to your request on the Aeroelectric List because they generally jump right on to things like this. Bob himself usually is a great help, but he's on the road a lot and he might have been gone during this time. If you don't find the answers you need here, why don't you try Aeroelectric again? There are a lot of aviation electrical gurus on that list, probably more than you would find anywhere else in one spot. This is something you need to ensure you get right (smoke test) before covering. Great job on the schematic. Very professional and easy to read. Good luck, Deke Morisse S5, NE Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 8:46 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Power Diagram for Review > > Guys, > > I have had this post on the Aeroelectric list with no bites, so I thought > I would ask it to you guys. I need some of you electrical geniuses to > review my diagram and critique it and let me know if it will work or what > needs to change. Here is my setup for background: > > Rotax 914 with internal (small alternator) and external 40 amp alternator. > My plan is to have the 40A be the primary and the 18A (internal) be a > backup on a switch. Other than that it should be a standard Kitfox power > system. The diagram shows a "Generic Ford" regulator for the primary > alternator but in reality, my alternator has an built in regulator. The > Rotax regulator will be connected to the backup. > > Please let me know what needs to change as I am covering the fuse on > Monday and I would like to do the electrical system next. > > Do not archive > > -------- > Darin Hawkes > Series 7 (under Construction) > 914 Turbo > Ogden, Utah > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146520#146520 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/rotax_914_modified_199.pdf > > >


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    Time: 08:49:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Power Diagram for Review
    From: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
    Deke, To tell you the truth, I was very suprized I didn't get any replies either on the Aeroelectric list. And I agree, I need to get this part right but covering shouldn't affect this part of the process as I have made the boot cowl removeable to access all the wiring and fabric doesn't cover this area. Thanks for the comments on the diagram, but I can't take complete credit because I simply used a couple of Bob's diagrams to make it using Autocad. -------- Darin Hawkes Series 7 (under Construction) 914 Turbo Ogden, Utah Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146560#146560


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    Time: 09:39:00 PM PST US
    From: jerry evans <kitfox555@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: transponder kt76 tso
    Has anyone have experience in hooking up the wires from this transponder I have a black ground and a red power and a yellow ? when it goes I don't know I put continuity tester on it, it is grounded but it is in dimmer pin on the plug in the diagram the red is on pin 5 black is in pin 12 yellow in pin 11 anyone know thanks Jerry Jerry Evans 96% done 582 Magalia Calif. N582'er' kitfox 555


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    Time: 10:33:06 PM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Power Diagram for Review
    Darin, It's been a while, but as I recall, the Rotax voltage regulator, doesn't like to be without a load. It seems I read somewhere that if you turn it off - no load - you can fry the regulator. Maybe someone else can clarify this. You might want to put a small battery, a resister or a light bulb somewhere in the circuit when the aux (small) generator is off line to provide a small load. Also, I notice you have an overvoltage protection module in the small generator circuit. I doubt you need it as the unit is a simple permanent magnet generator rather than an alternator and run away voltage is not an issue. At least this is the way I understand it. Bob was a Kitfox list contributor when I was building and he influenced my circuit design as well. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 5:46 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Power Diagram for Review > > Guys, > > I have had this post on the Aeroelectric list with no bites, so I thought > I would ask it to you guys. I need some of you electrical geniuses to > review my diagram and critique it and let me know if it will work or what > needs to change. Here is my setup for background: > > Rotax 914 with internal (small alternator) and external 40 amp alternator. > My plan is to have the 40A be the primary and the 18A (internal) be a > backup on a switch. Other than that it should be a standard Kitfox power > system. The diagram shows a "Generic Ford" regulator for the primary > alternator but in reality, my alternator has an built in regulator. The > Rotax regulator will be connected to the backup. > > Please let me know what needs to change as I am covering the fuse on > Monday and I would like to do the electrical system next. > > Do not archive > > -------- > Darin Hawkes > Series 7 (under Construction) > 914 Turbo > Ogden, Utah > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146520#146520 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/rotax_914_modified_199.pdf > > >


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    Time: 10:47:08 PM PST US
    From: 84KF <avidfox@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: transponder kt76 tso
    On Nov 16, 2007 11:26 PM, jerry evans <kitfox555@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Has anyone have experience in hooking up the wires from this transponder I > have a black ground and a red power and a yellow ? when it goes I don't > know I put continuity tester on it, it is grounded but it is in dimmer pin > on the plug in the diagram the red is on pin 5 black is in pin 12 > yellow in pin 11 anyone know thanks Jerry http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data/KT76-78.pdf




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