---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/19/07: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:25 AM - Short take off Video (dave) 2. 09:26 AM - 582 Engine Mount (Jim Gilliatt) 3. 12:33 PM - Re: Short take off Video (Michel Verheughe) 4. 01:08 PM - Re: IFR in a kitfox (n85ae) 5. 02:46 PM - Re: IFR in a kitfox (Michel Verheughe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:25:34 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Short take off Video From: "dave" OK, Some one asked about operating out of a short strip......... so....... one of my 3 runways is 550 feet long with 75' on each side. You will see the 582 can certainly pull it's weight and do quite well clearing those trees with 75' to 100 feet clearance. oh one more things is the spark plugs have over 140 hours on them and the engine has over 350 hours on it and never been apart ............. I would like to see some others doing the same thing with any engine combo, take a video and put it on You tube........ See, I talk about it but I put my video where my mouth is btw winds were about 2o degrees off my left on take off at about 5 knots. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itqyBYxU0lU [Laughing] :o [Shocked] -------- Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada Flying Videos and Kitfox Info http://www.cfisher.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=147110#147110 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:40 AM PST US From: Jim Gilliatt Subject: Kitfox-List: 582 Engine Mount Is there anyone out there that might be interested in a 582 engine mount? Jim Gilliatt S7 IO240 In progress ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:34 PM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Short take off Video On Nov 19, 2007, at 5:24 PM, dave wrote: > OK, Some one asked about operating out of a short strip......... You're da man, Dave! I can't do that with my model 3 and a Jabiru and I couldn't do it when I had the 582. I never got the tail up as fast as you do even if I always start with the stick full forward. Cheers, Michel Verheughe Norway Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:08:51 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: IFR in a kitfox From: "n85ae" I have a full IFR panel in my Kitfox, with all the appropriate avionics, and intended to fly mine IFR when I built it. Since I've been flying it for a few years, now I would never fly it IFR. It is simply not a hands off airplane. You could fly it iFR but it would be a VERY stressfull adventure as looking at an approach plate and back at the panel you might find yourself 30-40 degrees off attitude in almost any direction, in as much time as it took to read this. I think mine is reasonably stable with the heavy IO-240 up front, but it is definetly not a good IFR platform in my opinion. Jeff. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=147179#147179 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:46:08 PM PST US From: Michel Verheughe Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: IFR in a kitfox On Nov 18, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Chris Budd wrote: > And out of those how many people actually fly theirs in IMC? Since you ask, Chris, here is my story. In Norway, with my uncertified Kitfox, I can't fly IFR. I can't fly at night and I can't even fly on-top. So, I have no gyro instruments except one of those cheap solid-state turn coordinator. Last May, I was to fly from Norway to south Germany where I was to meet friends. I had prepared that for a long time and was looking forward to it. The forecast was for a high pressure over most of Europe so I was optimistic. I had a flight plan for 8 AM. When I arrived at the airfield, there was fog. I had to delayed my flight plan. Usually that morning fog lifts up during the morning. I had given me 12 AM as my last chance to leave, otherwise I wouldn't reach my first overnight in northern Germany and my rendez-vous with my friends. At 11 AM, the fog had lifted and a call to the nearby airport tower confirmed that the ceiling was now 1,000 ft. That gave me enough altitude to cross the Oslo fjord and fly toward Sweden where the METAR was CAVOK. I took of and levelled at 800 ft, right under the cloud cover. A few minutes later I was over the water when I realised that I had lost sight with the ground. Grey over me and grey under me! That happens often early in the year. The water is still colder than the air and fog banks drift over the fjord. I had to take a decision. I could try to climb and fly on-top. I could try to descent and hope to see the water. Or I could just turn around and forget about my trip. All that thinking took me some minutes during which I was keeping a straight course, looking at the turn coordinator and my GPS with moving map. I knew that it was only maybe ten minutes before I would be again over land and certainly the fog will be gone. I didn't know how deep was the cloud cover so I decided not to climb. I stayed at the same altitude and heading. After ten minutes I saw a dark shape under me, it was the first island from the other side of the fjord. It got better with time and arrived to the Swedish border I saw a timid sun from above, piercing in the fog that soon dissipated to a CAVOK situation. Those ten minutes with no visual reference were very tense. I had no problem to keep the plane on en even keel, the turn coordinator (a TruTrak) was responding very fast. But as time went, I noticed that I had problems to keep a straight course. With time, I lost concentration and was not flying any longer in a straight line. I don't think I could have done that for much longer. High pulse rate, etc. you easily loose concentration with time. Cheers, Michel Verheughe Norway Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kitfox-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kitfox-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kitfox-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kitfox-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.