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Sat 11/24/07


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     0. 12:25 AM - Comments (Matt Dralle)
     1. 03:54 AM - Re: IFR in a kitfox (Lynn Matteson)
     2. 05:17 AM - Re: News alerts "Kitfox " accidents (FlyboyTR)
     3. 08:32 AM - Re: News alerts "Kitfox " accidents (kitfoxmike)
     4. 08:40 AM - Re: News alerts "Kitfox " accidents (FlyboyTR)
     5. 09:38 AM - Re: IFR in a kitfox (Michael Gibbs)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:25:32 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Comments
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    Time: 03:54:13 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: IFR in a kitfox
    Ouch!...yeah, but as I recall, your flight/accident was under pretty normal conditions, wasn't it?...windshear? I recall that I read about your accident soon after I joined the list. Lynn Matteson Grass Lake, Michigan Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 flying w/440+ hrs do not archive On Nov 24, 2007, at 12:11 AM, Michael Gibbs wrote: > <MichaelGibbs@cox.net> > > Lynn sez: > >> Been there, done that, and the entry in my logbook reads: >> "Scariest flight yet...don't do this again." > > > I love that, Lynn! Maybe I should write that next to the logbook > entry for my accident. :-) > > Mike G. > N728KF > Phoenix, AZ > >


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    Time: 05:17:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: News alerts "Kitfox " accidents
    From: "FlyboyTR" <flyboytr@bellsouth.net>
    We live on the Gulf Coast in Alabama and have an abundance of seagulls, pelicans, migratory geese/ducks, etc. Back in 1993 while flying my Quicksilver MX II down the beach of a long sandbar, I was hit in the chest by a seagull. I do NOT make a habit of flying close to birds...However this one came out of nowhere. I impacted the ground in a semi unconscious condition...still trying to fly the plane. Major damage to the plane and just bruising and a cut on my finger. One thing to remember, NEVER attempt to fly under a bird! Birds dive to get away (quick increase in airspeed) from a potential danger. Seldom ever do they go up (while in level flight)...however...... Last year in my Vixen, flying this same stretch of beach with my new supervisor...taking her first "real" airplane flight... All things were going well. At around 200' MSL (there were no people on the beach of this island/sandbar) and at 110 MPH there were several seagulls that flew up from nowhere. I caught a quick glimpse of something and before I could do or say anything it/they...hit the prop on the left side of the plane then slammed against the glass on my door. I have those small swivel vents that have the 1/2 crescent shaped opening on each door... and when open have a small lip that extends outward about 1/2" to divert the air through the opening. The gull hit the lip and it shredded the carcase...a lot of which blew through the opening and sprayed the cockpit with seagull innards, blood, meat and partially digested fish/minnows. I throttled back and noted that there was no problem with the flight controls, etc. When I turned to my passenger...I couldn't believe my eyes. My new boss was coated from the chest up with the above mentioned particles. The first thing I told her was..."do not lick your lips!" She removed her glasses and the "clean" outline was almost perfect around her eyes! I reached behind the seat, pulled out a towel and she started wiping her face. It was really a goolish sight. We work in the healthcare industry so a little blood, guts and stinch was really not all that bad...for us...anyway! My wife and I worked for over 5 hours cleaning the inside of the plane. ..it was EVERYWHERE! ...what a mess! The next day I noticed a large blood stain on the right wing leading edge at the wing-tip cover. We had apparently hit more that one seagull. Yep, bird strikes are real and potentially devastating. Honestly.....I hate seagulls...and it's obvious they hate me as well...because they are willing to sacrifice themselves to try to get me! [Wink] -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen N-789DF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=148234#148234


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    Time: 08:32:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: News alerts "Kitfox " accidents
    From: "kitfoxmike" <customtrans@qwest.net>
    you mean one of these. Hit a little on the prop and then hit the side window, the underside of the wing and then laid rest here. Note the legs sticking up in the air, kind of cool. I heard the hit, that was all, never saw it. -------- kitfoxmike model IV, 1200 speedster 912ul building RV7a slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit &quot;if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying enough&quot; Do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=148253#148253 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/bird_628.jpg


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    Time: 08:40:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: News alerts "Kitfox " accidents
    From: "FlyboyTR" <flyboytr@bellsouth.net>
    Mike, Cool picture! ...much better on the outside of the plane...rather than being shredded and spewed inside through the vent! My wife just pointed out to me that we did have a piece of wing and leg...we think... jammed between the lift strut and the wind on the right side. Again...nice pic! ...all of this sort of gives me a knot in my stomach! [Shocked] -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen N-789DF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=148254#148254


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    Time: 09:38:02 AM PST US
    From: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: IFR in a kitfox
    Lynns sez: >Ouch!...yeah, but as I recall, your flight/accident was under pretty >normal conditions, wasn't it?...windshear? I recall that I read >about your accident soon after I joined the list. Yes, but your comment is still applicable, "Scariest flight yet...don't do this again." :-) Mike G. N728KF Phoenix, AZ Do not archive.




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