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1. 02:49 AM - Re: kitfox heater (dave)
2. 07:36 AM - Kitfox XL for sale ()
3. 01:19 PM - Re: Questions about ELTs?? (moosepileit)
4. 01:38 PM - Re: Re: Questions about ELTs?? (fox5flyer)
5. 01:47 PM - No Brakes on the right side this AM (Tom Jones)
6. 01:51 PM - Re: Kitfox XL for sale (Tom Jones)
7. 01:58 PM - KF 3 or KF 4 (moosepileit)
8. 02:22 PM - Re: KF 3 or KF 4 (Tom Jones)
9. 02:36 PM - Re: Re: Questions about ELTs?? (Michel Verheughe)
10. 03:18 PM - Re: KF 3 or KF 4 (Rexinator)
11. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox XL for sale (Cudnohufsky's)
12. 03:40 PM - Re: KF 3 or KF 4 (Clint Bazzill)
13. 03:52 PM - Re: No Brakes on the right side this AM (Sbennett3@aol.com)
14. 04:22 PM - Re: Re: Questions about ELTs?? (John W. Hart)
15. 04:25 PM - Re: KF 3 or KF 4 (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
16. 04:39 PM - insurance (Sbennett3@AOL.COM)
17. 04:44 PM - Re: KF 3 or KF 4 (dave)
18. 04:47 PM - Re: insurance (RRTRACK@aol.com)
19. 05:06 PM - Re: insurance (Sbennett3@AOL.COM)
20. 05:22 PM - Re: insurance (Tom Jones)
21. 05:24 PM - Re: No Brakes on the right side this AM (LarryM)
22. 05:29 PM - Re: KF 3 or KF 4 (moosepileit)
23. 05:55 PM - Re: insurance (RRTRACK@aol.com)
24. 08:19 PM - Re: KF 3 or KF 4 (Michael Gibbs)
25. 08:22 PM - Re: insurance (Michael Gibbs)
26. 08:25 PM - Re: insurance (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
27. 09:41 PM - Re: insurance (Lowell Fitt)
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| Subject: | Re: kitfox heater |
Ok I posted a few pics and info on how I made a cabin heat muff from a Rtoax 582 http://www.cfisher.com/heatmuff1/
Mine works well and the heat coming into cabin is HOT not warm.
http://www.cfisher.com/heatmuff1/
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| Subject: | Kitfox XL for sale |
Saw an ad in the Dallas newspaper so thought I'd post in case someone was interested.
Kitfox XL with Rotax engine,assembly required. $9,000. It is located south
of Tyler,Texas. 214-649-7438. Leon Morris/classic 4(94)/60%/Flower Mound,Tx.
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| Subject: | Re: Questions about ELTs?? |
First time posting, go easy on me.
I'm a current Mil transport pilot in the Reserves, we monitor 121.5 and 243.0 most
all the time, even getting bearings on 243.0 on most types on a BDHI. About
the only time we tune it out is on airdrop ingresses in formation (either lead
or tail end or someone will be given the task to monitor just in case, though-
radio orchestration is an art and science in flights of more than 3) and
when refueling from a tanker- the tanker monitors for us, we just hang onto the
boom and get the gas and talk on the interphone up to the crew in the tanker.
I'm also part 121 cargo, and we monitor 121.5 unless talking to a gate. Oceanic
standard/IATA Freq is almost universally 123.45 now for self reporting/turbulence
reports, etc. When oceanic and on HF, we monitor 123.45 and 121.5 on the
VHF radios. I'm pretty sure these are ops normal.
I have as well have buddies helped talk for/with or relay to FSS when folks have
problems on 121.5 and overflew an ejection once- hearing the bailout on 243
then the chute beeper on 243 will leave an indellible mark on your memory. Fella
was in a rescue helo inside 30 minutes- that was inside the US so it's not
class'd...
Pre-9/11 I think airliners stayed on gate or company freq on the non-atc radio.
Now they stay on 121.5. I know the one time another airliner and I were relaying
for a Cessna on 121.5 we got yelled at by another skygod capt that couldn't
hear the Cessna's part of the conversation (power reduction)- had to take
time to explain to him that we were using 121.5 for it's intended purpose, not
as a unicom....
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| Subject: | Re: Questions about ELTs?? |
That's good to hear. Thanks.
Deke
NE Michigan
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----- Original Message -----
From: "moosepileit" <rklarich@msn.com>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:16 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Questions about ELTs??
>
> First time posting, go easy on me.
>
> I'm a current Mil transport pilot in the Reserves, we monitor 121.5 and
> 243.0 most all the time, even getting bearings on 243.0 on most types on a
> BDHI. About the only time we tune it out is on airdrop ingresses in
> formation (either lead or tail end or someone will be given the task to
> monitor just in case, though- radio orchestration is an art and science in
> flights of more than 3) and when refueling from a tanker- the tanker
> monitors for us, we just hang onto the boom and get the gas and talk on
> the interphone up to the crew in the tanker.
>
> I'm also part 121 cargo, and we monitor 121.5 unless talking to a gate.
> Oceanic standard/IATA Freq is almost universally 123.45 now for self
> reporting/turbulence reports, etc. When oceanic and on HF, we monitor
> 123.45 and 121.5 on the VHF radios. I'm pretty sure these are ops normal.
>
> I have as well have buddies helped talk for/with or relay to FSS when
> folks have problems on 121.5 and overflew an ejection once- hearing the
> bailout on 243 then the chute beeper on 243 will leave an indellible mark
> on your memory. Fella was in a rescue helo inside 30 minutes- that was
> inside the US so it's not class'd...
>
> Pre-9/11 I think airliners stayed on gate or company freq on the non-atc
> radio. Now they stay on 121.5. I know the one time another airliner and
> I were relaying for a Cessna on 121.5 we got yelled at by another skygod
> capt that couldn't hear the Cessna's part of the conversation (power
> reduction)- had to take time to explain to him that we were using 121.5
> for it's intended purpose, not as a unicom....
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=151527#151527
>
>
>
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| Subject: | No Brakes on the right side this AM |
I didn't get to test my heater modifications this AM due to no brakes on the right
side. I test them by pushing the pedal by hand during preflight. The right
brake went to full down with hardly any resistance. It wouldn't pump up at
all. When I flew two days ago it was okay during preflight and taxi. I don't
think I used them when I landed and taxied back to the trailer.
I went home and bled it but no improvement. They are Cleveland master cylinders
and matco wheel cylinders. There are no leaks anywhere.
Anyone have any ideas or contact information for Cleveland. I think the seal must
have wet bad in the master cylinder. Kid of strange that it happened all
of a sudden like that.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox XL for sale |
> Kitfox XL with Rotax engine,assembly required. $9,000.
That's a darn good deal if it is complete and hasn't been started with poor workmanship.
It is essentially a stripped down model 4 1200. Do not archive
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Tom Jones
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503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
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Help,
I live 2 miles from a grass strip w/ no hangars. I've owned a Pitts S1S and Luscombe
8E over the years, have lots of Supercub and Pawnee time also. Started
in Gliders at age 14.
I am Looking at the KF line as I am used to removing wings on gliders and folding
seems like a great option to survive lack of hangars nearby. The wife likes
side by side seating, even more power towards the KF.
The Rotax 912 family is a must for power for me. Would a KF 3 be ok or is it
worth it to hold out to find a KF 4 w/ regards to flying quality. I'd fly a few
times a week for an hour or so w/ the occasional multi-hour flight. I just
saw a KF 3 pop up on the web w/ a 912.
I'm near Dover, DE
Thanks!
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| Subject: | Re: KF 3 or KF 4 |
Moosepilet,
If it is the same kitfox I just looked at on the web you better not hesitate.
I bet it doesn't last until tomorrow. Those look like Federal Skis too. Go buy
it and make me a good deal on the shis.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Questions about ELTs?? |
On Dec 10, 2007, at 10:16 PM, moosepileit wrote:
> I know the one time another airliner and I were relaying for a Cessna
> on 121.5 we got yelled at by another skygod capt that couldn't hear
> the Cessna's part of the conversation
That's an interesting point. When I fly my Kitfox from the east to the
west of Norway, above the central plateau, I barely hear Oslo Control,
then Stavanger Control on the west side. But I know they don't hear me
because I am much weaker. What should I do then if I get into trouble?
My plan is then to switch to 121.50, send a distress signal in blind,
together with my position. I hope then that an airliner flying higher
can hear me and relay to an appropriate ATC/SAR station.
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Re: KF 3 or KF 4 |
I suggest you consider the load capacity difference. M2 1050 vs later M4
version up to 1200.
Different wing shapes will favor the M3 for STOL while the M4 can fly
faster.
Flapperon design change and other changes improved flight controls.
See this link for more details. http://kitfoxaircraft.com/KitfoxHistory.htm
--
Rex Hefferan
SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiting repairs
moosepileit wrote:
>
>Help,
>
>I live 2 miles from a grass strip w/ no hangars. I've owned a Pitts S1S and Luscombe
8E over the years, have lots of Supercub and Pawnee time also. Started
in Gliders at age 14.
>
>I am Looking at the KF line as I am used to removing wings on gliders and folding
seems like a great option to survive lack of hangars nearby. The wife likes
side by side seating, even more power towards the KF.
>
>The Rotax 912 family is a must for power for me. Would a KF 3 be ok or is it
worth it to hold out to find a KF 4 w/ regards to flying quality. I'd fly a
few times a week for an hour or so w/ the occasional multi-hour flight. I just
saw a KF 3 pop up on the web w/ a 912.
>
>I'm near Dover, DE
>
>Thanks!
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=151539#151539
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox XL for sale |
Gross on an XL is 950 lbs, can be built just light, under 500 lbs with the
Rotax 503 and no frills. I added 2 wing tanks, 10 gal aluminum header tank,
panel radio, duel brakes and wheel pants to mine and came in at 531.
Lloyd Cudnohufsky
Model 5 - 912ul Rebuild
Northern Mi. 49801
Do not archive
It is essentially a stripped down model 4 1200. Do not archive
> Tom Jones
> Classic IV, Phase one
> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg, WA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=151537#151537
>
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Hold out for a Model IV-1200 or Classic. Big Difference between 3 and 4.
Big Big Difference.
Clint> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:11:15 -0500> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: KF 3 or KF 4> From: hefferans@gmail.com> > -->
Kitfox-List message posted by: Rexinator <hefferans@gmail.com>> > I suggest
you consider the load capacity difference. M2 1050 vs later M4 > version u
p to 1200.> Different wing shapes will favor the M3 for STOL while the M4 c
an fly > faster.> Flapperon design change and other changes improved flight
controls.> See this link for more details. http://kitfoxaircraft.com/Kitfo
xHistory.htm> > -- > Rex Hefferan> SE Colorado / K-II / 582-C / still waiti
moosepileit" <rklarich@msn.com>> >> >Help,> >> >I live 2 miles from a grass
strip w/ no hangars. I've owned a Pitts S1S and Luscombe 8E over the years
, have lots of Supercub and Pawnee time also. Started in Gliders at age 14.
> >> >I am Looking at the KF line as I am used to removing wings on glider
s and folding seems like a great option to survive lack of hangars nearby.
The wife likes side by side seating, even more power towards the KF.> >> >T
he Rotax 912 family is a must for power for me. Would a KF 3 be ok or is it
worth it to hold out to find a KF 4 w/ regards to flying quality. I'd fly
a few times a week for an hour or so w/ the occasional multi-hour flight. I
just saw a KF 3 pop up on the web w/ a 912.> >> >I'm near Dover, DE> >> >T
hanks!> >> >> >> >> >Read this topic online here:> >> >http://forums.matron
====================> > >
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| Subject: | Re: No Brakes on the right side this AM |
Tom, i've been dealing with air in my brakes too. I finally located the
problem down on the caliper. If there's no visible fluid on the floor it's
probably leaking out the bottom like mine. Now I share your same... Where do we
get matco parts? Are they available from Kitfox directly? Steve Bennett
Kitfox model 4/1200 rotax 912
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| Subject: | Re: Questions about ELTs?? |
Your plan of action has saved several lives in Alaska over the years. If
you go down in the mountains in AK, there is no line of sight radio
communications, except those that happen to be flying overhead. The high
flying guys are about your only hope, unless you are equipped with satellite
telephone.
John Hart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michel
Verheughe
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Questions about ELTs??
That's an interesting point. When I fly my Kitfox from the east to the
west of Norway, above the central plateau, I barely hear Oslo Control,
then Stavanger Control on the west side. But I know they don't hear me
because I am much weaker. What should I do then if I get into trouble?
My plan is then to switch to 121.50, send a distress signal in blind,
together with my position. I hope then that an airliner flying higher
can hear me and relay to an appropriate ATC/SAR station.
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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I would suggest you look into Avid Flyers also, Kitfox was actually a cop
y of the first Avids. The Avid C model and the Mk IV are wider (40") than
the earlyier Avid models, and with the Heavy Hauler wing, the gross weight
is 1150 lbs. With a Jabiru or Rotax 912, you would have a nice plane. G
uess what I fly?? I don't have anything against the Kitfoxes, I just found
good deals on my 2 Avids before a Kitfox came along. Jim Chuk, Avid Mk I
V, Jabiru> Subject: Kitfox-List: KF 3 or KF 4> From: rklarich@msn.com> Dat
e: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:57:13 -0800> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> > --> Ki
tfox-List message posted by: "moosepileit" <rklarich@msn.com>> > Help,> > I
live 2 miles from a grass strip w/ no hangars. I've owned a Pitts S1S and
Luscombe 8E over the years, have lots of Supercub and Pawnee time also. Sta
rted in Gliders at age 14. > > I am Looking at the KF line as I am used to
removing wings on gliders and folding seems like a great option to survive
lack of hangars nearby. The wife likes side by side seating, even more powe
r towards the KF.> > The Rotax 912 family is a must for power for me. Would
a KF 3 be ok or is it worth it to hold out to find a KF 4 w/ regards to fl
ying quality. I'd fly a few times a week for an hour or so w/ the occasiona
l multi-hour flight. I just saw a KF 3 pop up on the web w/ a 912.> > I'm n
ear Dover, DE> > Thanks!> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://fo
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Can anyone that knows ins. tell me if this is fair, and also should I be
looking for more or less coverage ??? Annual premium is 1429 dollars. And I
have appx 50 hrs in my kitfox 4 Thanks. Steve B
LIABILITY$1,000,000 Combined Single Limit Bodily Injury (passenger Bodily
Injury limited to $100,000 each person) and Property Damage.
MEDICAL PAYMENTS: $3,000 each person including the pilot.
HULL: Ground and Flight, Deductibles $100; Insured Value $30,000
PURPOSE OF USE: "Pleasure and Business" excluding any operations for which a
charge is made to others.
TERRITORIAL LIMITS: U.S. (excluding Hawaii), Canada, Caribbean and Mexico
(Mexican law requires additional minimal limits of liability through a Mexican
company. Contact us for more information if Mexican operations are
anticipated).
NAMED PILOT ONLY: Steve Bennett
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| Subject: | Re: KF 3 or KF 4 |
Moose,
The model 3 and earleir 4 gross was 1050 lbs. The later model 4 gross was 1200
lbs. That being said some of the later 4s were heavier empty and gobbling up
some of the extra 150 lbs of additional gross weight.
The biggest differance in handling from a 3 would be that it did not have aileron
differential so you have more adverse yaw. It has a different airfoil as well
and likely is a little slower.
I have here a 4 - 1050 with 582 and performs well. Here is videos
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=kitfoxflyer
912 will give you a faster cruise by about 15to 20 mph on the same model but a
model 3 likely about 10 mph or so. Take off performance will also be judged by
your emtpy aircraft weight.
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
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Steve
I think it depend on how much total tail dragger time you have as well. I
have 400 hours in taildraggers and pay around $1,200 a year for about the
same coverage.
Mark
Kitfox 5 Vixen
912UL IVO
Hartford, Wisconsin
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Thanks Mark, I have 50 hrs tail time. Getting better every landing too :-)
So they'll give me 30000 if I wreck the plane and survive ? that's hull
ins ? I understand the Liability and bodily injury. Steve B
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Steve, My insurance with AIG is a little over $1400 with same liability as yours
and $20,000 hull. They give a 5% discount to AOPA members which brings it
down to 13 something. That discount pays for my AOPA membership plus a little
extra.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: No Brakes on the right side this AM |
At the risk of an insult.... are you aware that you can purchase from Matco?
http://www.matcomfg.com/
I found that the last bit of air can be real hard to get out. Ensure that the
piston is pulled up all the way.
larry
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| Subject: | Re: KF 3 or KF 4 |
Thank you for all the replies! :D It's the featured 3 on barnstormers and the
fella only has til 8 Jan to seel Price w/ trailer seems great, but I'll probably
miss out as I'm on a trip. He didn't give me Empty Weight in his first reply.
It would do the trick for me it sounds like- I dont' mind adverse yaw, I can rudder
as needed, and STOL over cruise is fine with me.
Cheers,
MP
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Insurance will pay the amount insured for without question if all your
paperwork is in order and everything is legal. They look at these as much as the
plane. Some keep the hull insurance for the first year and then just keep the
liability after that. That would cut the insurance cost in half. In 20 years
with a tail dragger I have never had any major damage to my planes. Never even
close to a ground loop. But a forced landing in poor conditions can total a
plane quickly. But I feel I have a far better chance to walk away from a
forced landing at 35 MPH than 60, this is just another great reason I like to
fly
the Kitfox and Avid's.
Mark
Kitfox 5 Vixen
912UL IVO
Hartford, Wisconsin
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Jim sez:
>...Kitfox was actually a copy of the first Avids.
Why do Avid folks keep saying this? Is it because Dean Wilson kept
the Avid name and Dan Denney changed his to Kitfox?
Denney and Wilson designed and built the original Avid Flyer
together. When they parted ways they each continued with their own
ideas for improving the design. They couldn't both be called "Avid
Flyer", so Denney changed the name of his version.
Neither is a copy of the other, they are an example of divergent evolution.
Mike G.
N728KF
Phoenix, AZ
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Steve sez:
>Can anyone that knows ins. tell me if this is fair...
>LIABILITY$1,000,000 Combined Single Limit Bodily Injury (passenger
>Bodily Injury limited to $100,000 each person) and Property Damage.
I can tell you from my experience with a serious crash that the
$100,000 per seat limit is a joke. I was covered by other insurance
but my injuries came to almost $500,000 while my passenger's
expenses, which were paid out of my aircraft insurance, came to
$125,000.
Do yourself a favor and ask them to quote "smooth coverage." Smooth
coverage has no per-seat limits. It will cost a bit more, but the
entire $1,000,000 will be available to cover everyone involved, on
the ground or in the airplane.
These days, an accident that injures other people could ruin you
financially. If you have any assets at all (house? savings?
retirement accounts?) it's critical that you protect them.
The $34,000 they paid me for the "hull" is what allowed me to build
another Kitfox.
Mike G.
N728KF
Phoenix, AZ
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I don't have the hull coverage on my Avid Mk IV, and my libility is only 25
0,000 but I'm paying $366 through Falcon Ins. from EAA. It is for noncome
rcial use only and I don't think you are allowed to use an experimental for
commercial use anyway, and I am the only pilot listed on the policy. I ha
d less time than you in the Avid when I got this policy 2 1/2 years ago.
Jim Chuk, Avid MK IV
From: Sbennett3@aol.comDate: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:25:45 -0500Subject: Kitfox
-List: insuranceTo: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Can anyone that knows ins. tell me if this is fair, and also should I be lo
oking for more or less coverage ??? Annual premium is 1429 dollars. And I
have appx 50 hrs in my kitfox 4 Thanks. Steve B
LIABILITY$1,000,000 Combined Single Limit Bodily Injury (passenger Bodily I
njury limited to $100,000 each person) and Property Damage.
MEDICAL PAYMENTS: $3,000 each person including the pilot.
HULL: Ground and Flight, Deductibles $100; Insured Value $30,000
PURPOSE OF USE: "Pleasure and Business" excluding any operations for which
a charge is made to others.
TERRITORIAL LIMITS: U.S. (excluding Hawaii), Canada, Caribbean and Mexico (
Mexican law requires additional minimal limits of liability through a Mexic
an company. Contact us for more information if Mexican operations are anti
cipated).
NAMED PILOT ONLY: Steve Bennett
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I hadn't thought of it this way as we haven't been informed of the total
hospital costs. After our "hard landing" the Emergency room visits were
about $25,000 and $39,000 for me and my wife respectively. That was for
about 6 hours there for me ( I got a tetanus shot and a series of x-rays
that missed two of the three compression fractures in my back), and eleven
hours for her ( she had minor surgery to clean out a wound on her leg).
Factor in a 12 day hospital stay for me and about a week for my wife and I
guess we went past the 100K mark as well. Fortunately we had excellent
medical insurance coverage, so out of pocket was zero.
The three thousand for medical for each seat is a joke - sorry to say. I
doubt a band aid at an emergency room would be covered by that. In fact,
our ambulance rides ate almost half - each. I guess the aviation insurance
company agreed with this as they wrote those checks regardless of out of
pocket expenses.
I was not aware of the type of insurance Mike mentioned, but his e-mail is
definitely a keeper for future consideration. Us old retired dudes living
on savings, just don't have the time left to recoup major losses.
My insurance was exactly as reported, but the premium was apportioned
smaller by about $300 as all my hours are in tailwheel airplanes - just
under 1100 hours. And in fairness to the insurance company, there were
absolutely no hassles. They met their contract obligations exactly and
promptly. As with Mike, the hull coverage is what allows for a hoped
return.
Lowell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Gibbs" <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: insurance
>
> Steve sez:
>
>>Can anyone that knows ins. tell me if this is fair...
>>LIABILITY$1,000,000 Combined Single Limit Bodily Injury (passenger Bodily
>>Injury limited to $100,000 each person) and Property Damage.
>
> I can tell you from my experience with a serious crash that the $100,000
> per seat limit is a joke. I was covered by other insurance but my
> injuries came to almost $500,000 while my passenger's expenses, which were
> paid out of my aircraft insurance, came to $125,000.
>
> Do yourself a favor and ask them to quote "smooth coverage." Smooth
> coverage has no per-seat limits. It will cost a bit more, but the entire
> $1,000,000 will be available to cover everyone involved, on the ground or
> in the airplane.
>
> These days, an accident that injures other people could ruin you
> financially. If you have any assets at all (house? savings? retirement
> accounts?) it's critical that you protect them.
>
> The $34,000 they paid me for the "hull" is what allowed me to build
> another Kitfox.
>
> Mike G.
> N728KF
> Phoenix, AZ
>
>
>
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