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1. 03:03 AM - Kitfox instructor in Michigan (Rexster)
2. 04:24 AM - Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips (LarryM)
3. 04:50 AM - Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips (Michel Verheughe)
4. 05:44 AM - Re: Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips (Lynn Matteson)
5. 07:00 AM - Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips (kitfoxmike)
6. 07:05 AM - Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips (kitfoxmike)
7. 07:35 AM - Re: Any Winter Flying Tips (dave)
8. 07:41 AM - Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips (dave)
9. 08:16 AM - Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips (Tom Jones)
10. 10:25 AM - Re: Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips (Lynn Matteson)
11. 11:06 AM - Re: Another ELT Question (Noel Loveys)
12. 11:44 AM - Thermostats (Frank Miles)
13. 11:44 AM - Re: Another ELT Question (darinh)
14. 12:35 PM - Re: Re: ELT // remember this is a 406 not a 121.5 (Noel Loveys)
15. 01:15 PM - Re: Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips (JC Propeller Design)
16. 02:14 PM - Model 3 With Model 4 Wing For Sale (Steve Magdic)
17. 02:56 PM - Re: Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips (Lynn Matteson)
18. 03:09 PM - INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ??? (PEDRO PEREZ)
19. 03:22 PM - Re: INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ??? (dave)
20. 03:22 PM - Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips (kitfoxmike)
21. 04:04 PM - Fw: INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ??? (PEDRO PEREZ)
22. 04:55 PM - Re: INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ??? (dave)
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| Subject: | Kitfox instructor in Michigan |
Shachar,
There's quite a few of us in EAA Chapter 13 who own and fly Kitfoxes.
We also have instructors in the chapter. We are about 20 miles north of
Detroit. Contact me off line at runwayrex@juno.com. Our website is www.
EAAchapter13.org.
Rex Phelps / Model 3 / Warp / 912 UL
Clinton Twp, Michigan
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that can teach me on my new Kitfox?
Thanks
Shachar Golan
Tel (248) 767-6630
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| Subject: | Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips |
Is it possible that is not the controls being too sensitive, but rather more effective
due to the cold air being more dense. That said, perhaps you can slow
down a bit to avoid the ballooning.
larry
"I have one, be gentle on stick movements on landing. They get pretty sensitive
with the colder weather. You will balloon on landing so be careful not to
pull back as much as you do in the summer. "
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| Subject: | Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips |
> From: LarryM [CrownLJ@verizon.net]
> Is it possible that is not the controls being too sensitive, but rather more
effective
> due to the cold air being more dense.
Years ago, I was reading in a yachting magazine about the wind being 'stronger'
in the winter time. Some sailors had the impression that, for a same wind force,
the boat was heeling more in the winter.
Apparently, while it is true due to the denser air, it is hardly noticeable and
the feeling that the wind was 'stronger' in the winter came from a very subjective
feeling since cold winds 'bite' more than warm ones.
As pilots we know that colder and denser air is noticeable in e.g. our climb rate:
denser air in the carb, denser air around the wing, it works like magic.
But would that make the controls more sensitive? I am not sure. Denser air means
greater coefficient of lift but also greater coefficient of drag. Is'nt it that
equilibrium that keeps our aircraft in the air and affects the control surfaces?
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips |
Could this denser air be the reason that I'm noticing a reduction in
available rpm during climbout? I started to notice a few weeks ago
that my engine is not turning the same rpm on climbout as it did
earlier. Thinking that it might have been some carb work that I did,
I changed back to original equipment, and that didn't help. To be
truthful, I hadn't paid any attention to climbout rpm up until
recently, since I've logged so many hours on the plane and got
complacent, but now I'm concerned.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/440+ hrs
On Dec 21, 2007, at 7:47 AM, Michel Verheughe wrote:
>> From: LarryM [CrownLJ@verizon.net]
>> Is it possible that is not the controls being too sensitive, but
>> rather more effective
>> due to the cold air being more dense.
>
> Years ago, I was reading in a yachting magazine about the wind
> being 'stronger' in the winter time. Some sailors had the
> impression that, for a same wind force, the boat was heeling more
> in the winter.
> Apparently, while it is true due to the denser air, it is hardly
> noticeable and the feeling that the wind was 'stronger' in the
> winter came from a very subjective feeling since cold winds 'bite'
> more than warm ones.
> As pilots we know that colder and denser air is noticeable in e.g.
> our climb rate: denser air in the carb, denser air around the wing,
> it works like magic.
> But would that make the controls more sensitive? I am not sure.
> Denser air means greater coefficient of lift but also greater
> coefficient of drag. Is'nt it that equilibrium that keeps our
> aircraft in the air and affects the control surfaces?
>
> Cheers,
> Michel Verheughe
> Norway
> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
>
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| Subject: | Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips |
LarryM wrote:
> Is it possible that is not the controls being too sensitive, but rather more
effective due to the cold air being more dense. That said, perhaps you can slow
down a bit to avoid the ballooning.
>
> larry
>
> "I have one, be gentle on stick movements on landing. They get pretty sensitive
with the colder weather. You will balloon on landing so be careful not to
pull back as much as you do in the summer. "
Call it what you want, but you will cut into the denser air even at slow speed.
The controls get more sensitive, is the best way to describe it.
I'm just giving a warning that full back just as you settle WILL put that nose
way up and then go up and then you stall and drop or you catch it and put in power
and do a go around. It will surprise you so be careful, the colder air is
nice, but it will bite you if you don't watch it.
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
enough"
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| Subject: | Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips |
Could this denser air be the reason that I'm noticing a reduction in
available rpm during climbout? I started to notice a few weeks ago
that my engine is not turning the same rpm on climbout as it did
earlier. Thinking that it might have been some carb work that I did,
I changed back to original equipment, and that didn't help. To be
truthful, I hadn't paid any attention to climbout rpm up until
recently, since I've logged so many hours on the plane and got
complacent, but now I'm concerned.
Lynn,
you are spot on with your observations. I to have noticed a reduction in my rpm.
At wide open throttle static test before takeoff I was 150rpm lower at 23
degrees outside compared to 40 degrees. This was an observation taken within a
weeks time. Temps changed within that week that much, I also flew every day
so I could make the call.
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
enough"
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Any Winter Flying Tips |
Jareds,
Hope this helps
Here is a post i made last year
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=19987
Here is a Ski video of my Kitfox in 30" powder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0COIbiwm9g
over 20 videos of Kitfox flying here
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer&p=r
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: Ski flying
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Ok, Season is here and A few are ski flyers and sounds like a few more
will becoming Ski fliers.
I wanted to say a good story from Noel a few days ago on the coffin that got
tossed from the Beaver. I got a good chuckle anyhow. He did bring on a
good point with the greenage put along the runway. One thing I have always
used on Ski planes is a good set of sunglasses or coloured lens that suit
you th best for giving good depth perception.
For anyone that has skied you will know how those cloudy days give the worst
depth perception from flat and low light conditions. And when on skis if
you cannot see the surface at all then you might not see ruts, drifts and
chunks of ice and snow on your intended take off or landing path. This can
spell disaster very quickly. So you have to be able to see better. Now add
some blowing snow and ground drifting and you will be even more blind.
I have found that yellow glasses work well you know the ones used for
shooting. I wear glasses and I have a pair of yellow safety glasses in the
plane . I also have my old Bolle IREX lens which are prescription ground.
There are mountaineering glasses and work excellent. I am sure most have
decent sunglasses now with IR and UV protection so next time you out in
the snow take a few pairs with you and see what works best. I even find
these help alot in the cars during snowy days adn whiteout conditions in the
daytimer as the light refracts off the blowing snow.
Also dress for winter in case you go down. zero F is not place to be
with just pants and sweat shirt. I carry a winter survival kit with me as
well as lots of waterproof matches, rope , hatchet, saw and a few small
tarps and extra gloves and hat.
Heater - Cabin heat . I have a scoop off the back of my radiator that
blows heated air about 160 F into the cabin on each side of the flap handle
through 2 1" holes -- Not enough for below 20F but helps a bit. I also
have a heat muff on the Muffler 13 " x 9 " that is piped into the cabin
via 2 1 1/2" Scat tubes. This makes me comfortable down to -10 F . at
this OAT the cabin will be about 40 to 45 F on a cloudy day and warmer on
sunny days. On a average winter day with temps at 20 F the cain will be
about 50 to 60 F on a cloudy day. Good heater is certainly worth the
effort.
Good battery is always helpful but also on my 582 good handproping skills
is VERY Helpful if you do not have a pull start. The ducati igntion needs
minimum of 250 RPM to get a spark generated and when temps get below 30 F I
find with that cold viscous gear oil it slows the starter enough that it
can be hard to start. I always turn over the prop about 10 ot 15 turns to
help loosen up oil a bit. But this is not always enough. But a few good
swings of the prop and it will usually fire right away. (YES those 3 to 1
gear gear boxes really spin that engine quick enought by hand. ) Your
enricher ( some call it a choke ) will work but a primer makes the easiest
starts. Nothing sucks more than when you are all set to go out a pristine
cold winter day and the engine will not fire.
Good walk around as usual but including your skis , bungees, crust cutter
cable and safety cables. I see many guys use a bungee from tip of ski amd
this can lead to failure of the bugge from snow abrasion so keep an eye on
them. Those 4 ot 5 foot skis put a good strain on your axles and gear as
well, so always keep a sharp eye for anything that does not look still
"aligned" on those big feet of yours. Surely most of you know but always
look for frost and ice ...... It will destroy alot if not all your lift.
AS well as ice on control surfaces can cause binding.
Make sure drain holes are clear in fuselage and you have not picked up 10
or 20 pounds inside your tail of ice from weather.
I could go on but Sun will be up soon here and time to go Ski flying !
Thanks to Paul Seehafer for the good write up on Ski flying and the video
link . Thanks Paul and great video !!
And once you all get on skis and floats -- you just might realize what you
been missing and throw those silly black rubber doughnuts away you been used
to
You think landing on glassy water is smooth - try it 2 to 3 feet of fresh
snow !!
Dave
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=37203
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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| Subject: | Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips |
Put my skis on late day yesterday.
got in about 30s mins of flying --
what a blast !!!
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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| Subject: | Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips |
> Could this denser air be the reason that I'm noticing a reduction in
> available rpm during climbout?
Fuel mixture will be leaner than in warm thiner air. You might try richening the
mixture a bit to see if rpm increases.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips |
Well, if I am "spot on," it's due to information I got from Deke,
who's been flying longer than me by a long shot. He mentioned density
to me the other night via phone, but it seemed to not be my problem
at first. Then I got to thinking about my recent rpm during takeoff
and climbout, and I probably hadn't been paying attention, because I
was more looking at EGT's, CHT's and feeling the effects of my new
heater modifications. My rpm's could have been getting lower and
lower with the changes in air density, and I wouldn't have noticed.
Then when I did some carb mods, I DID pay attention and "suddenly" I
had lost rpm. Having gone back to Jabiru's original carb specs, and
not seeing any change to rpm's, I started to look for other engine
problems. Just changed plugs today, but am not looking for any great
jump in revs, just doing normal maintenance.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/440+ hrs
On Dec 21, 2007, at 10:03 AM, kitfoxmike wrote:
> <customtrans@qwest.net>
>
> Could this denser air be the reason that I'm noticing a reduction in
> available rpm during climbout? I started to notice a few weeks ago
> that my engine is not turning the same rpm on climbout as it did
> earlier. Thinking that it might have been some carb work that I did,
> I changed back to original equipment, and that didn't help. To be
> truthful, I hadn't paid any attention to climbout rpm up until
> recently, since I've logged so many hours on the plane and got
> complacent, but now I'm concerned.
>
>
> Lynn,
> you are spot on with your observations. I to have noticed a
> reduction in my rpm. At wide open throttle static test before
> takeoff I was 150rpm lower at 23 degrees outside compared to 40
> degrees. This was an observation taken within a weeks time. Temps
> changed within that week that much, I also flew every day so I
> could make the call.
>
> --------
> kitfoxmike
> model IV, 1200
> speedster
> 912ul
> building
> RV7a
> slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
> "if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then
> you're not flying enough"
> Do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=153504#153504
>
>
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| Subject: | Another ELT Question |
Really, you can mount the antenna any where but don't expect to get any
efficiency out of it. A lot of the segments of the fuselage are around 22"
and can resonate with the 406 mhz. and rob power from your transponder.
Composite aircraft being basically plastic can have these antennae moulded
into the different surfaces. You might want to consider mounting the
antenna along the leading edge of the vertical stab but it should be mounted
on standoffs that keep the antenna a few inches form the stab.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of darinh
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:10 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Another ELT Question
I went ahead and got an ME-406 for my Series 7 with the whip antenna and was
wondering if the antenna can be mounted in the fuse (see other ELT post for
details if interested). It is a pretty ugly wire looking thing and would
prefer to have it enclosed but don't know if that will affect its
transmission capabilities. I know other antennas can be mounted inside.
Does anyone know that answer to this question?
Do Not Archive
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Darin Hawkes
Series 7 (under Construction)
914 Turbo
Ogden, Utah
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I have 582 that on initial startup runs up to 180 degrees and then drops
back to 140 and stays there. Are there other thermostats available? Say,
160
or 180=92s. Would be nice in this cold weather!
Frank Miles
k-III w/582
12/21/2007
1:17 PM
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| Subject: | Re: Another ELT Question |
>From the replies is sounds like nobody really knows if it can be mounted in the
fuse or not...I guess until it has to be used and you can test your chosen location,
we will not not. I actually prefer to never know if my ELT antenna really
works, at least from an experience stand point. I am going to mount it
to the top of the fuse at the aft antenna ground plane. The manufacturer says
it needs to be on top outside the fuse. If I end up upside down in an accident,
well my PLB should take over from there. Thanks for the replies.
--------
Darin Hawkes
Series 7 (under Construction)
914 Turbo
Ogden, Utah
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| Subject: | Re: ELT // remember this is a 406 not a 121.5 |
It could be affected more if the skins are wet. Water absorbs a lot of RF.
Why not install the antenna along the side of the windshield with suction
cups? After all its less than 7 1/4" in length. For vertical transmission
the antenna could be set up horizontal but this would give serious lobes in
the transmit pattern.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 12:02 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: ELT // remember this is a 406 not a 121.5
The 406 will punch through light tree cover, so I would suspect it'll have
no problem until the silver coating on the fabric is the thickness of
sheetmetal. This is a question to call an experienced avionics shop with
and ask about. Let us know what you learn.
--------
Remember that internet advice may only be worth what you pay.
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| Subject: | Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips |
This something I noticed on my old Aeronca Champ. A-65 also, less RPM in
winter but better thrust and climb.
Jan
----- Original Message -----
From: "kitfoxmike" <customtrans@qwest.net>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 4:03 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips
>
> Could this denser air be the reason that I'm noticing a reduction in
> available rpm during climbout? I started to notice a few weeks ago
> that my engine is not turning the same rpm on climbout as it did
> earlier. Thinking that it might have been some carb work that I did,
> I changed back to original equipment, and that didn't help. To be
> truthful, I hadn't paid any attention to climbout rpm up until
> recently, since I've logged so many hours on the plane and got
> complacent, but now I'm concerned.
>
>
> Lynn,
> you are spot on with your observations. I to have noticed a reduction in
> my rpm. At wide open throttle static test before takeoff I was 150rpm
> lower at 23 degrees outside compared to 40 degrees. This was an
> observation taken within a weeks time. Temps changed within that week
> that much, I also flew every day so I could make the call.
>
> --------
> kitfoxmike
> model IV, 1200
> speedster
> 912ul
> building
> RV7a
> slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
> "if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not
> flying enough"
> Do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=153504#153504
>
>
> __________ NOD32 2740 (20071221) Information __________
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Model 3 With Model 4 Wing For Sale |
Sorry, I failed to mention where the Model 3 is located. I'm up in prime
EAA country just west of Milwaukee Wisconsin in the town of Sussex
(53089).
Pictures can be seen on the Matronics photo-share site. Look for the
"Steve Magdic" heading. Let me know if you need more pictures or info.
Thanks,
Steve
490PA
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| Subject: | Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips |
Thanks, Jan...this is what I was hoping would happen in this
thread...people who have flown with fixed-pitch props, comparing the
seasonal changes with engine output.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/440+ hrs
do not archive
On Dec 21, 2007, at 4:14 PM, JC Propeller Design wrote:
> <propellerdesign@tele2.se>
>
> This something I noticed on my old Aeronca Champ. A-65 also, less
> RPM in winter but better thrust and climb.
>
> Jan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "kitfoxmike"
> <customtrans@qwest.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 4:03 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips
>
>
>> <customtrans@qwest.net>
>>
>> Could this denser air be the reason that I'm noticing a reduction in
>> available rpm during climbout? I started to notice a few weeks ago
>> that my engine is not turning the same rpm on climbout as it did
>> earlier. Thinking that it might have been some carb work that I did,
>> I changed back to original equipment, and that didn't help. To be
>> truthful, I hadn't paid any attention to climbout rpm up until
>> recently, since I've logged so many hours on the plane and got
>> complacent, but now I'm concerned.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lynn,
>> you are spot on with your observations. I to have noticed a
>> reduction in my rpm. At wide open throttle static test before
>> takeoff I was 150rpm lower at 23 degrees outside compared to 40
>> degrees. This was an observation taken within a weeks time. Temps
>> changed within that week that much, I also flew every day so I
>> could make the call.
>>
>> --------
>> kitfoxmike
>> model IV, 1200
>> speedster
>> 912ul
>> building
>> RV7a
>> slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
>> "if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then
>> you're not flying enough"
>> Do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=153504#153504
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| Subject: | INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ??? |
HELLO: LIST
I AM INTEREST TO INSTALL AMPHIB. LOTUS TO MY CLASSIC IV. IT HAVE A 80
HP ENGINE ."VERNER"
DO I NEED TO TEST ANY PERFORMANCE BEFORE TO BE SURE THAT FLOATS WILL BE
A GOOD OPTION!!!
DO LOTUS ARE THE LIGHTEST ON MARKET?
WHAT ABOUT THE BRAKES ON IT?
IT WILL BE USED IN SALT WATER!!!!!!
NEED HELP ON MY DESITION....
SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH...
PEDRO PEREZ
KITFOX - CLASSIC IV W/ VERNER ENGINE IN PUERTO RICO
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| Subject: | Re: INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ??? |
Pedro,
What is your performance numbers now and empty weight ?
Full lotus will work but not as aerodynamic as others.
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| Subject: | Re: GREAT STUFF Any Winter Flying Tips |
could be that the prop is digging in, pushing more air molecules. So the rpms
drop. but you have more thrust.
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kitfoxmike
model IV, 1200
speedster
912ul
building
RV7a
slowbuild wings, fuse, finish kit
"if you're not getting razzed from pilots or the FAA then you're not flying
enough"
Do not archive
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| Subject: | INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ??? |
CRUISE 65 TO 75 MPH
EMPTY WEIGHT: 630
----- Original Message -----
From: PEDRO PEREZ
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 7:05 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ???
HELLO: LIST
I AM INTEREST TO INSTALL AMPHIB. LOTUS TO MY CLASSIC IV. IT HAVE A 80
HP ENGINE ."VERNER"
DO I NEED TO TEST ANY PERFORMANCE BEFORE TO BE SURE THAT FLOATS WILL BE
A GOOD OPTION!!!
DO LOTUS ARE THE LIGHTEST ON MARKET?
WHAT ABOUT THE BRAKES ON IT?
IT WILL BE USED IN SALT WATER!!!!!!
NEED HELP ON MY DESITION....
SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH...
PEDRO PEREZ
KITFOX - CLASSIC IV W/ VERNER ENGINE IN PUERTO RICO
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| Subject: | Re: INSTALL FLOATS ON CLASSIC IV ??? |
> CRUISE 65 TO 75 MPH
> EMPTY WEIGHT: 630
>
Empty weight is good.
Cruise seems a bit slow ?
how long is your take off run on wheels and what climb rate do you get ?
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