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1. 06:24 AM - Re: Battery Location (Lynn Matteson)
2. 06:57 AM - Re: Re: Battery Location (Mike)
3. 07:59 AM - Re: Replacing spars (Tim Vader)
4. 08:12 AM - Re: Kitfox XL (Tom Jones)
5. 10:05 AM - windscreen and flapperons (Jim Hakes)
6. 10:19 AM - Open Title on Kitfox (Pete Christensen)
7. 10:50 AM - Re: Re: Re: Battery Location (Guy Buchanan)
8. 10:56 AM - Re: Open Title on Kitfox (Randy Lervold)
9. 11:06 AM - Re: Open Title on Kitfox (wingnut)
10. 11:16 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox XL (Donroutledge@aol.com)
11. 12:20 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox XL (Jim Hakes)
12. 01:08 PM - Re: Open Title on Kitfox (Tom Jones)
13. 01:16 PM - Re: Kitfox XL (Tom Jones)
14. 02:14 PM - Re: Re: Battery Location (GONER752@aol.com)
15. 03:07 PM - Re: Battery Location (dave)
16. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox XL (Cudnohufsky's)
17. 03:30 PM - Re: Re: Open Title on Kitfox (JohnW. Hart)
18. 05:45 PM - Re: Re: Open Title on Kitfox (jeff puls)
19. 06:11 PM - Re: Re: Open Title on Kitfox (Pete Christensen)
20. 07:36 PM - Fw: Wing Tank Finger Fuel Strainers (Jimmie Blackwell)
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Location |
Yeah, same here...strange, no "rejection" this time. Before, like I
said, I'd get a "form letter" email saying I had to name the files,
or they were too big, or something, and "poof", 5 minutes later, they
came through. Now maybe I have the procedure down to a science...that
could be scary!
Regarding the pictures, however...not my finest hour...nor was my
work on that support, but it got the job done, and is still holding
the fort so to speak.
Lynn
do not archive
On Jan 16, 2008, at 8:06 PM, fox5flyer wrote:
> <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
>
> They came through here just fine Lynn.
> Dekester
> do not archive
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Battery Location
>
>
>> I'll try to attach the pics that I had in my files, but even though I
>> reduce then as Matronics asks, I always get a "rejection
>> letter"...and then they show up anyway.
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Location |
I am in the process of rebuilding a Model II that was damaged in an
accident by the previous owner. In the process, all the fabric has
been stripped off, and I have welded a height extension of eight
inches onto the rudder and vertical fin. Also, I have installed an
electric trim tab on the elevator. In rebuilding the wing, I need to
replace at least the leading edge spars, and John and Debra have
informed me that the replacements will be made of a heavier gauge
tubing, as they will be the current design, and stronger than the
originals. I am wondering what else I might have to do to bring the
aircraft up to the specs of the Model III, as far as strength goes.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Mike
mclayton@rochester.rr.com
Mobile: 585-737-5506
Home: 585-352-1763
8 Adams Trail
Spencerport, NY 14559
N16AF (KF II Rebuild in Progress)
On Jan 16, 2008, at 8:29 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
> My plane registered as a model III-A is buy the serial numbers a
> model II which the builder told me he had upgraded to a the same
> specs as a model III. I think in order for your mount to fit it
> would have to come off a model II.
>
> Noel
>
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-
> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick reilly
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:36 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Battery Location
>
> Noel, My 912 engine mount came off of a model 3. I don't know if it
> will fit your plane. I'm sure someone out there knows. I also have
> the grommet door that goes in the middle of the firewall. Shipping
> to Newfoundland must be expensive from almost anywhere. Pat Reilly
> From: noelloveys@yahoo.ca
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Battery Location
> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:51:50 -0330
> I=92m in Newfoundland, Canada... As close as you can get to Europe
> on this continent without doing a lot of swimming. J
>
> I=92m going to hold on to the 582 until I get the 912 flying then
> it=92s up for sale, lock stock and barrel.
>
> What model Kitfox is your mount made to fit? That=92s the big part I
> need now. My bolt pattern should be the same as the model II.
>
> Noel
>
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-
> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick reilly
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:05 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Battery Location
>
> Noel, Sorry, no, I do not have the 912 exhaust. I got this plane
> without the engine. I have the complete 912 engine mount and the
> firewall grommet door, however. What are you doing with your 582
> firewall forward? Where are you located? Pat
> From: noelloveys@yahoo.ca
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Battery Location
> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:42:20 -0330
> Pat
>
> I=92m going the other way installing a 912 where a 582 now lives.
> I=92m considering moving my header tank, almost 14 lb full, behind
> the seat. Then putting the oil tank where the header is now, behind
> the instrument panel. I have to see if it will be easily removable
> form that location for cleaning. BTW you don=92t happen to have an
> exhaust??
>
> Noel
>
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-
> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick reilly
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:21 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Battery Location
>
> Tom, Thanks for the advice. I have removed the battery. I am 90%
> sure it will have to come forward with the lighter engine. But, I
> will wait to reposition it with the new weight and balance. Pat
> Reilly
>
> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Battery Location
> > From: nahsikhs@elltel.net
> > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:44:17 -0800
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >
> >
> >
> > > My question is, should I move the battery to the back of the
> firewall, where I see some other 582 engine battery installations?
> >
> >
> > Pat, I would leave the battery where it is until the rebuild is
> complete enough to do a close weight and balance. Then you can move
> the battery forward if needed and you will be able to know how far.
> It will probably be easier to remove the existing cables at that
> time than to reinstall them if you need the CG to move back.
> >
> > --------
> > Tom Jones
> > Classic IV, Phase one
> > 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
> > Ellensburg, WA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158194#158194
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| Subject: | Re: Replacing spars |
Mike
I don't know what else you would need to do to upgrae to Model III
specs but thought I'd pass on how I replaced my front spar.
I used a reciprocating saw to cut out sections between each rib
leaving about 2 inches of spar on either side of the rib. I then heated
the spar stubs with a propane torch. The 3m grey epoxy turned to
something like putty and the stubs were easily removed from the ribs. I
use a putty knife to remove most of the epoxy from the ribs while it was
still soft. It turned out to be much less of a job than I thought and
no damage to the ribs.
Good Luck
Tim Vader
Classic IV
GPASC 2276 ccVW
Calgary, Alberta
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Battery Location
I am in the process of rebuilding a Model II that was damaged in an
accident by the previous owner. In the process, all the fabric has been
stripped off, and I have welded a height extension of eight inches onto
the rudder and vertical fin. Also, I have installed an electric trim
tab on the elevator. In rebuilding the wing, I need to replace at least
the leading edge spars, and John and Debra have informed me that the
replacements will be made of a heavier gauge tubing, as they will be the
current design, and stronger than the originals. I am wondering what
else I might have to do to bring the aircraft up to the specs of the
Model III, as far as strength goes. Does anyone have any ideas?
Mike
mclayton@rochester.rr.com
Mobile: 585-737-5506
Home: 585-352-1763
8 Adams Trail
Spencerport, NY 14559
N16AF (KF II Rebuild in Progress)
On Jan 16, 2008, at 8:29 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
My plane registered as a model III-A is buy the serial numbers a
model II which the builder told me he had upgraded to a the same specs
as a model III. I think in order for your mount to fit it would have to
come off a model II.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick
reilly
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:36 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Battery Location
Noel, My 912 engine mount came off of a model 3. I don't know if it
will fit your plane. I'm sure someone out there knows. I also have the
grommet door that goes in the middle of the firewall. Shipping to
Newfoundland must be expensive from almost anywhere. Pat Reilly
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From: noelloveys@yahoo.ca
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Battery Location
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:51:50 -0330
I=92m in Newfoundland, Canada... As close as you can get to Europe
on this continent without doing a lot of swimming. J
I=92m going to hold on to the 582 until I get the 912 flying then
it=92s up for sale, lock stock and barrel.
What model Kitfox is your mount made to fit? That=92s the big part
I need now. My bolt pattern should be the same as the model II.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick
reilly
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:05 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Battery Location
Noel, Sorry, no, I do not have the 912 exhaust. I got this plane
without the engine. I have the complete 912 engine mount and the
firewall grommet door, however. What are you doing with your 582
firewall forward? Where are you located? Pat
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From: noelloveys@yahoo.ca
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Battery Location
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:42:20 -0330
Pat
I=92m going the other way installing a 912 where a 582 now lives.
I=92m considering moving my header tank, almost 14 lb full, behind the
seat. Then putting the oil tank where the header is now, behind the
instrument panel. I have to see if it will be easily removable form
that location for cleaning. BTW you don=92t happen to have an exhaust??
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick
reilly
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:21 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Battery Location
Tom, Thanks for the advice. I have removed the battery. I am 90%
sure it will have to come forward with the lighter engine. But, I will
wait to reposition it with the new weight and balance. Pat Reilly
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Battery Location
> From: nahsikhs@elltel.net
> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:44:17 -0800
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>
<nahsikhs@elltel.net>
>
>
> > My question is, should I move the battery to the back of the
firewall, where I see some other 582 engine battery installations?
>
>
> Pat, I would leave the battery where it is until the rebuild is
complete enough to do a close weight and balance. Then you can move the
battery forward if needed and you will be able to know how far. It will
probably be easier to remove the existing cables at that time than to
reinstall them if you need the CG to move back.
>
> --------
> Tom Jones
> Classic IV, Phase one
> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg, WA
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158194#158194
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> I have a brochure for a Kitfox XL kit which states it has a gross weight of 950.
I thought the XL was a IV. It also claims it flys with a Rotax 503. Is it
the same width as a IV?
Pete, all the old literature I have indicates the XL and Classic 4 airframe are
the same.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | windscreen and flapperons |
Thanks for the info on the windscreens. I also would like to know if
anyone with a Model IV has changed the flapperons to the new style. If
so, was it a smooth transition.
My Fox was originally a Model IV 1050 which I bought in 1992. I
participated in the 1st Alaska Adventure in 1998. In the year 2001 I
made an unscheduled landing which caused me to change the fuselage to a
1200. At that time I also upgraded the wing tips and landing gear and
prepared it for floats. In 2004 one of my float landings ended up at
-54 ft. So now I am about to get it flying again for the 3rd time. The
Fox actually did a water loop and damaged the wing tip and flapperon.
Skystar does not sell the old style flapperon so I have to switch to the
new style so I have a matched set.
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| Subject: | Open Title on Kitfox |
Anybody had any experience with buying a plane from someone whe bought
it from another party who bought it from some other party. He has a
bill of sale from the person he bought it from and I believe a copy of
the previous bill of sale.
How could I buy this plane while protecting myself?
N number check says: "This aircraft's registration status may not be
suitable for operation."
Pete
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Location |
At 06:54 AM 1/17/2008, you wrote:
>In the process, all the fabric has been stripped off, and I have
>welded a height extension of eight inches onto the rudder and vertical fin.
The vertical stabilizer root bending moment is proportional
to the distance from the root times the area. You have added
substantially to that bending moment. Do you know the root structure
to be adequate? Have you verified that the structure you added to is
the same as that on the later models with the longer fin? (Don't take
offense, just trying to keep you alive. The Kitfox is short coupled
and VS/rudders can see very high loads.)
>In rebuilding the wing, I need to replace at least the leading edge
>spars, and John and Debra have informed me that the replacements
>will be made of a heavier gauge tubing, as they will be the current
>design, and stronger than the originals.
They will also be stiffer so that when the wing flexes it
will twist. (They do flex a bit.) Since it will wash-in I doubt it's
a problem, but it will behave a little different than a wing with two
similar stiffness spars.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Open Title on Kitfox |
I'd pass on that one. The seller should have the FAA registration, form
8050-3, in his/her name as well as the aircraft's original Airworthiness
Certificate (form 8130-7. Operating Limitations, W&B documentation, and
an Equipment List should also be there but aren't as critical as the
first two. Without the Registration and AW cert you aren't legal.
Randy Lervold
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Christensen
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:16 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Open Title on Kitfox
Anybody had any experience with buying a plane from someone whe bought
it from another party who bought it from some other party. He has a
bill of sale from the person he bought it from and I believe a copy of
the previous bill of sale.
How could I buy this plane while protecting myself?
N number check says: "This aircraft's registration status may not be
suitable for operation."
Pete
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| Subject: | Re: Open Title on Kitfox |
Is there no way to make an airplane legal after the fact?
> I'd pass on that one. The seller should have the FAA registration, form 8050-3,
in his/her name as well as the aircraft's original Airworthiness Certificate
(form 8130-7. Operating Limitations, W&B documentation, and an Equipment List
should also be there but aren't as critical as the first two. Without the Registration
and AW cert you aren't legal.
--------
Luis Rodriguez
Model IV 1200
Rotax 912UL
Flying Weekly
Laurens, SC (34A)
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Could someone explain how to tell the difference between a Kitfox IV 1050
and a IV 1200? Thanks, Don
In a message dated 1/17/2008 10:14:21 A.M. Central Standard Time,
nahsikhs@elltel.net writes:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
> I have a brochure for a Kitfox XL kit which states it has a gross weight
of 950. I thought the XL was a IV. It also claims it flys with a Rotax 503. Is
it the same width as a IV?
Pete, all the old literature I have indicates the XL and Classic 4 airframe
are the same.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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The Kitfox IV was a Kitfox III with the new wing and was rated at 1050
as was the Kitfox III. In about 1993 they changed to 1200 by beefing up
the carry thru parts of the fuselage and stronger struts. The also
heightened the rudder. In making my 1050 I did make changes and had it
signed off at 1200.
----- Original Message -----
From: Donroutledge@aol.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox XL
Could someone explain how to tell the difference between a Kitfox IV
1050 and a IV 1200? Thanks, Don
In a message dated 1/17/2008 10:14:21 A.M. Central Standard Time,
nahsikhs@elltel.net writes:
> I have a brochure for a Kitfox XL kit which states it has a gross
weight of 950. I thought the XL was a IV. It also claims it flys with a
Rotax 503. Is it the same width as a IV?
Pete, all the old literature I have indicates the XL and Classic 4
airframe are the same.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Open Title on Kitfox |
> Anybody had any experience with buying a plane from someone whe bought it from
another party who bought it from some other party. He has a bill of sale from
the person he bought it from and I believe a copy of the previous bill of sale.
>
> How could I buy this plane while protecting myself?
>
> N number check says: "This aircraft's registration status may not be suitable
for operation."
Pete, That N number status may just mean that one of the buyers did not get the
airplane registered in their name or the registration process has not been completed
yet. I have seen that status show up on several planes I checked on that
had just been purchased and the registration was not complete yet.
I would put the onus on the current seller to get the paperwork straightened out
and produce a registration in their name before handing over any cash.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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> Could someone explain how to tell the difference between a Kitfox IV 1050 and
a IV 1200? Thanks, Don
Don, besides the taller fin and rudder, the wing struts and tube landing gear main
tubes are one inch OD on the 1200. On the 1050 those are smaller diameter
tubes. There are some tubes in the fuselage that are larger on the 1200 also.
The Classic 4 is limited to 1050 max gross as a power limitation, not an airframe
limitation.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Location |
Mike,
I happened across this on the list quite awhile back. Probably not something
I'll be attempting, but I hung on to it because, well, I'm a pack rat and I
guess that carries over to the computer. Never throw anything away, you might
need it.:-) Anyway, I hope I get this right and it comes through.
Cheers,
Greg G
Macedon, N.Y.
23NK
n375KL
Mod 2
582
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Location |
> ?I am wondering what else I might have to do to bring the aircraft up to the
specs of the Model III, as far as strength goes. ? Does anyone have any ideas?
>
There is a mod from the UK i think for something to strengthen the model2 I think.
Email me if you want a copy. Noel has one already.
Also If i was rebuilding a 2 I would ask McBean about the leading edges that are
used on later models if that would be ok to use to pick up a few mph but you
have a under cambered wing so I am not sure.
While you talking to him ask him about a retrofit kit that would give you aileron
differential which the model 1 to 3 never had. You might even get more usable
flap but I not not 100% sure. Another note too would be adding extra riblets
on the top of wing and possibly the bottom although with the under cambered
it might not do much.
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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All,
I built an XL in 1996, they are a lighter version of the model IV. It
was sold as a package with the 503 DCDI, width was same as a IV, Gross
was 950.
Lloyd Cudnohufsky
Rebuilding Model V-912
Upper Mi.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Hakes
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox XL
The Kitfox IV was a Kitfox III with the new wing and was rated at 1050
as was the Kitfox III. In about 1993 they changed to 1200 by beefing up
the carry thru parts of the fuselage and stronger struts. The also
heightened the rudder. In making my 1050 I did make changes and had it
signed off at 1200.
----- Original Message -----
From: Donroutledge@aol.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox XL
Could someone explain how to tell the difference between a Kitfox IV
1050 and a IV 1200? Thanks, Don
In a message dated 1/17/2008 10:14:21 A.M. Central Standard Time,
nahsikhs@elltel.net writes:
<nahsikhs@elltel.net>
> I have a brochure for a Kitfox XL kit which states it has a
gross weight of 950. I thought the XL was a IV. It also claims it flys
with a Rotax 503. Is it the same width as a IV?
Pete, all the old literature I have indicates the XL and Classic 4
airframe are the same.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Open Title on Kitfox |
Also Recommend a records search for liens. Can be done by AOPA, and other
firms at OKC.
John Hart
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 3:04 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Open Title on Kitfox
> Anybody had any experience with buying a plane from someone whe bought it
from another party who bought it from some other party. He has a bill of
sale from the person he bought it from and I believe a copy of the previous
bill of sale.
>
> How could I buy this plane while protecting myself?
>
> N number check says: "This aircraft's registration status may not be
suitable for operation."
Pete, That N number status may just mean that one of the buyers did not get
the airplane registered in their name or the registration process has not
been completed yet. I have seen that status show up on several planes I
checked on that had just been purchased and the registration was not
complete yet.
I would put the onus on the current seller to get the paperwork straightened
out and produce a registration in their name before handing over any cash.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV, Phase one
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | Re: Open Title on Kitfox |
Tom,
Are we talking about a flying aircraft or a kit that someone was premature
getting an "N" number for? I'm trying to keep up. Jeff Classic IV CMH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:03 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Open Title on Kitfox
>
>
>> Anybody had any experience with buying a plane from someone whe bought it
>> from another party who bought it from some other party. He has a bill of
>> sale from the person he bought it from and I believe a copy of the
>> previous bill of sale.
>>
>> How could I buy this plane while protecting myself?
>>
>> N number check says: "This aircraft's registration status may not be
>> suitable for operation."
>
>
> Pete, That N number status may just mean that one of the buyers did not
> get the airplane registered in their name or the registration process has
> not been completed yet. I have seen that status show up on several planes
> I checked on that had just been purchased and the registration was not
> complete yet.
>
> I would put the onus on the current seller to get the paperwork
> straightened out and produce a registration in their name before handing
> over any cash.
>
> --------
> Tom Jones
> Classic IV, Phase one
> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
> Ellensburg, WA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158854#158854
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Open Title on Kitfox |
Tom,
This is a licensed Kitfox. It's been through a few owners. I think today I
traced the ownership back to the last owner the FAA knows about. I think
I'll be able to get a clear title.
Thanks for all the help from those who commented.
Pete
----- Original Message -----
From: "jeff puls" <pulsair@mindspring.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Open Title on Kitfox
>
> Tom,
> Are we talking about a flying aircraft or a kit that someone was premature
> getting an "N" number for? I'm trying to keep up. Jeff Classic IV CMH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:03 PM
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Open Title on Kitfox
>
>
>>
>>
>>> Anybody had any experience with buying a plane from someone whe bought
>>> it from another party who bought it from some other party. He has a bill
>>> of sale from the person he bought it from and I believe a copy of the
>>> previous bill of sale.
>>>
>>> How could I buy this plane while protecting myself?
>>>
>>> N number check says: "This aircraft's registration status may not be
>>> suitable for operation."
>>
>>
>> Pete, That N number status may just mean that one of the buyers did not
>> get the airplane registered in their name or the registration process has
>> not been completed yet. I have seen that status show up on several
>> planes I checked on that had just been purchased and the registration was
>> not complete yet.
>>
>> I would put the onus on the current seller to get the paperwork
>> straightened out and produce a registration in their name before handing
>> over any cash.
>>
>> --------
>> Tom Jones
>> Classic IV, Phase one
>> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
>> Ellensburg, WA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158854#158854
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fw: Wing Tank Finger Fuel Strainers |
Never did see this one on the list, so am sending it again. Thanks
again to all for your assistance.
Jimmie
----- Original Message -----
From: Jimmie Blackwell
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 9:53 AM
Subject: Wing Tank Finger Fuel Strainers
Since I was the one that started the discussion on fuel strainers I
wanted to report the outcome on mine. I removed and reinstalled mine
yesterday without any difficulty. After 13 years and 440 hours on the
912UL engine the strainers were completely clear. I guess that says a
lot for using, "Mr. Funnel", to filter fuel.
Jimmie
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