Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Sat 01/26/08


Total Messages Posted: 19



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     1. 05:01 AM - Completed Kitfoxes (jlfernan)
     2. 05:11 AM - Super Sport builders on East Coast? (MDHazelden)
     3. 05:18 AM - Re: Super Sport builders on East Coast? (jlfernan)
     4. 05:21 AM - New bush tires available (Catz631@aol.com)
     5. 05:42 AM - Re: Re: Super Sport builders on East Coast? (Dee Young)
     6. 06:47 AM - Re: Super Sport builders on East Coast? (Kenneth Jones)
     7. 07:11 AM - Re: Super Sport builders on East Coast? (CDE2fly@aol.com)
     8. 09:06 AM - Engine for KitFox Lite project? (John & Paddy Wigney)
     9. 09:20 AM - Re: New bush tires available (darinh)
    10. 09:48 AM - Wanted - Kitfox fuel tanks (Len Gaultois)
    11. 10:47 AM - Re: Engine for KitFox Lite project? (Mnflyer)
    12. 11:10 AM - Re: Super Sport builders on East Coast? (MDHazelden)
    13. 12:31 PM - Re: Tru-Trak Autopilot in S5/Vixen (FlyboyTR)
    14. 01:49 PM - Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in...off topic (Lynn Matteson)
    15. 04:28 PM - Re: Re: Engine for KitFox Lite project? (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
    16. 05:35 PM - Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in...off topic (patrick reilly)
    17. 05:44 PM - Re: Wanted - Kitfox fuel tanks (patrick reilly)
    18. 06:36 PM - Re: Re: Tru-Trak Autopilot in S5/Vixen (John Alexander)
    19. 07:41 PM - Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in...off topic (Lynn Matteson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:01:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Completed Kitfoxes
    From: "jlfernan" <jlfernan@bellsouth.net>
    For those of us looking to build, I would love to see a section devoted to completed kits and panels, more than just the few Kitfox has on their site. This would provide inspiration and motivation to get/keep us going. :) -------- Jorge Fernandez N214JL Reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160545#160545


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    Time: 05:11:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Super Sport builders on East Coast?
    From: "MDHazelden" <mdhazelden@yahoo.com>
    Anyone on East Coast building or own a Super Sport? I would like to see one in person and talk with someone who has built one. Not sure I can wait until Sun and Fun. Thanks Mark Hazelden Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160547#160547


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    Time: 05:18:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Super Sport builders on East Coast?
    From: "jlfernan" <jlfernan@bellsouth.net>
    Me too! By the way, I spoke to the John and Debra a couple of weeks back and they won't be going to Sun 'n Fun. They said it's just a logistical nightmare for them. I'm going to do the next best thing and am going to see them in about 2 weeks. -------- Jorge Fernandez N214JL Reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160549#160549


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    Time: 05:21:52 AM PST US
    From: Catz631@aol.com
    Subject: New bush tires available
    I went to the Light Sport expo in Sebring and to the Alaska Bush tire booth. Among all their monster tires they are coming out with one that might suit our airplanes. It is being built for LSA. It is 21" tall ,800 x 6 and weighs 12 lbs.It is tubeless with the valve stem embedded in the side of the side wall (like their other tires) They are still developing the molds to produce it but he said it should be available in a few months. It is a very nice 4 or 6 ply tire (can't remember which) and of course, slick with no treads. It is a little heavy (12 lbs vs 9 1/2 for some others) but it eliminates all the valve stem shearing,etc of tubes and is very substantial. I am sure it will be pricey. If it is not too bad, I will be buying it. Dick Maddux Fox 4-1200 Pensacola,Fl **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)


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    Time: 05:42:32 AM PST US
    From: "Dee Young" <henrysfork1@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Super Sport builders on East Coast?
    If your planning to visit John and Debra at the factory, I would suggest you call the Hampton Inn motel in Nampa, Idaho. They are only a few miles drive to Kitfox hanger from where you could stay. Accommodations are good too. Just a thought. Dee Young Model II N345DY Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: jlfernan<mailto:jlfernan@bellsouth.net> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:16 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Super Sport builders on East Coast? <jlfernan@bellsouth.net<mailto:jlfernan@bellsouth.net>> Me too! By the way, I spoke to the John and Debra a couple of weeks back and they won't be going to Sun 'n Fun. They said it's just a logistical nightmare for them. I'm going to do the next best thing and am going to see them in about 2 weeks. -------- Jorge Fernandez N214JL Reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160549#160549<http://forums matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160549#160549> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List<http://www.matronics.com/N avigator?Kitfox-List> http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi on>


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    Time: 06:47:20 AM PST US
    From: Kenneth Jones <kmamjones@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Super Sport builders on East Coast?
    Hi Mark: What do you mean by East Coast? I live about an hour and a half west of DC - in PA near Hagerstown, MD. I'm building a Series 7 - nearly same thing as Super Sport. It's not nearly complete. I'm working of fuselage now. I have quick build wings. You are welcome if you want to see what the kit components look like - and review some of the construction steps involved. I have spent about 120 hrs in the building process so far Ken Jones, Waynesboro, PA On Jan 26, 2008, at 8:08 AM, MDHazelden wrote: > > Anyone on East Coast building or own a Super Sport? I would like > to see one in person and talk with someone who has built one. Not > sure I can wait until Sun and Fun. > > Thanks > > Mark Hazelden > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160547#160547 > >


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    Time: 07:11:11 AM PST US
    From: CDE2fly@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Super Sport builders on East Coast?
    I'm near Biinghamton, NY and also have a Model 7. It's nearly complete and I welcome anyone interested to stop by. **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)


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    Time: 09:06:11 AM PST US
    From: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@alltel.net>
    Subject: Engine for KitFox Lite project?
    To the KitFox list : EAA Chapter 309 in Charlotte, NC has received a donation of a partially completed Kit Fox Lite project. The wings, control surfaces and fuselage are complete but no further assembly has been done. The project was originally bought in April 2003 and the buyer never received the promised 2Si engine. I would like to know what other builders would recommend for choice of engine. We understand that most engines will put the weight outside the ultralight category but I assume that this is not a big problem. Thanks for your help. Cheers, John Wigney


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    Time: 09:20:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: New bush tires available
    From: "darinh" <gerns25@netscape.net>
    Dick, I was on their website yesterday and they are showing 3 new tires specifically for the LSA market. They are a 26"x12"x6" as well as a larger 29"x12"x6". They say that they are coming out with a 8.50x6 also...this is probably the one you are talking about. I would like to know the weights on the 26" tires as these are the size that interest me. The cost leaves a lot to be desired...$2000! -------- Darin Hawkes Series 7 (under Construction) 914 Turbo Kaysville, Utah Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160575#160575


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    Time: 09:48:30 AM PST US
    From: Len Gaultois <len@gcgs.ca>
    Subject: Wanted - Kitfox fuel tanks
    Hi all, I am looking for used wing tanks for a MK2 KF. I only have a header tank and now that my wings are open for a recover, I would like to up the fuel load. I considered the tanks from wing tanks.com but it is an expensive experiment and the seller is a bit difficult to deal with (no direct contact info and very little info available). They may be great tanks but I can not verify. At more than 1G for the tanks I would expect to see a speck sheet. Anyone that has tanks for sale or knows where I can purchase new or used ones, please drop me a line. Thanks len@gcgs.ca 613 487 3212 www.gcgs.ca


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    Time: 10:47:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine for KitFox Lite project?
    From: "Mnflyer" <gbsb2002@yahoo.com>
    Hi John, I would think that a Rotax 377 / 35 hp would be a good engine for the plane, about as light an engine one could find of course there are no new ones available. I guess there could be maybe someone has one tucked away in storage :D . -------- GB MNFlyer Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160581#160581


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    Time: 11:10:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Super Sport builders on East Coast?
    From: "MDHazelden" <mdhazelden@yahoo.com>
    Thanks for the replies and ideas. I am in New Bern, North Carolina and am willing to make a long weekend driving trip to make sure I am making the right choice, but talking with people will help me as well. I have a friend that has a Kitfox IV speedster. I like what I see and I can fit into it. I am a A&P and I want a project of my own. I believe a new Super Sport would be fun to build and fly. Mark Hazelden Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160582#160582


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    Time: 12:31:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tru-Trak Autopilot in S5/Vixen
    From: "FlyboyTR" <flyboytr@bellsouth.net>
    I have completed the install of the autopilot. No major headaches or fabrication needed. However....I so apologize!!!! When we finished everything it was a cold rainy day (our hanger is open on two sides). After we cleaned up all the tools, etc. Kathy pulled out the camera, and after that...dead battery warning! We did not take ANY pictures. Since I had the help, we put the plane back together and flew it the next day. We made a few control adjustments while in flight (changing the torque and movement speeds of the servos). This is done at the control head and is actually quite easy to do. We locked on altitude at 2,000' and it did not change by more than 10' up or down. It also held us on course and making directional changes are easy. We took it down to 800' because it was really turbulent at that altitude. Altitude +/- 20 and it held the course heading. We had to increase the lateral adjustment (how fast the servo responds and moves). After that it did a fantastic job of keeping the wings level even though it was a rough ride. At present...I have no complaints about the ADI Pilot II. I'm just glad it is installed...and I'm thrilled. The main servo is mounted on the left side of the fuselage behind the seat, attached with Adell clamps to the two V shaped tubes. The elevator servo is also behind the seat just above the push/pull tubs. It is also mounted to the structural tubes in that location. The pushrod is attached the elevator pushrod under the seat. When we pull the plane down for it's next 100 hour inspection I will take lots of pictures with printed detail and post them. I really feel bad that i was unable to take the pictures...but I had help and didn't want to delay the test flight. If you have any specific questions, please ask! Travis :D -------- Travis Rayner Mobile, AL Skystar Vixen N-789DF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160586#160586


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    Time: 01:49:58 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in...off topic
    Did anybody go to the Oshkosh (actually Pioneer Field) Skiplane Fly- in today? I was registered to go, but less-than-desirable weather conditions between lower-Lower Michigan, around Chicago, and on up to Osh kept me wisely at home. When I called for conditions this morning, they warned of icing on their vehicle's windshield driving in...that sealed it for me. I had intended to leave yesterday, but the weather "vibes" just weren't right. I'd like to hear a plane count if anybody attended. Lynn Matteson Grass Lake, Michigan Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 flying w/460+ hrs do not archive


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    Time: 04:28:02 PM PST US
    From: Jim_and_Lucy Chuk <thesupe@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine for KitFox Lite project?
    I would guess that a good 447 would be easy to find and it weighs the same as the 377. A friend had a 377 in his Kolb and I had a 447 in my Himax. The 377 burned less fuel, but also had a bit less power. If they want more power that that, a 503 should work also, but again with more fuel burn. I t does have duel ignition though and is regaurded as one of the most relia ble Rotax 2 strokes. Plenty of options available. Jim Chuk, Avid Mk IV , Jabiru, northern Mn > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Engine for KitFox Lite project?> From: gbsb2002 @yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:41:46 -0800> To: kitfox-list@matronic > Hi John, I would think that a Rotax 377 / 35 hp would be a good engine f or the plane, about as light an engine one could find of course there are n o new ones available. I guess there could be maybe someone has one tucked a way in storage :D .> > --------> GB > MNFlyer> > > > > Read this topic onli ne here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160581#160581> > ====> > > _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts!-Play the word scramble challenge with sta r power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_ja n


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    Time: 05:35:56 PM PST US
    From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in...off topic
    Lynn, Just talked to Luscome ski plane buddy from Cottonwood Airport,here i n Rockford, that was planning to go but didn't. He said only 1 plane on ski 's, from Broadhead WI, made it to Oshkosh., no other ski planes. Pat Reil ly> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com> From: lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Kitfox- List: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in...off topic> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:47:22 >> > Did anybody go to the Oshkosh (actually Pioneer Field) Skiplane Fly- > in today?> I was registered to go, but less-than-desirable weather conditi ons > between lower-Lower Michigan, around Chicago, and on up to Osh kept > me wisely at home. When I called for conditions this morning, they > warne d of icing on their vehicle's windshield driving in...that > sealed it for me. I had intended to leave yesterday, but the weather > "vibes" just weren 't right.> I'd like to hear a plane count if anybody attended.> > > Lynn Ma tteson> Grass Lake, Michigan> Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200> flying w/4 ==========> > >


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    Time: 05:44:17 PM PST US
    From: patrick reilly <patreilly43@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Wanted - Kitfox fuel tanks
    Len, There is a mod 4 KF on Barnstormers. It is a project fusalage. The win gs were destroyed in a forced landing. The add reads Wing" hardware include d". Its in Florida. I don't know if those tanks fit your model. It might be worth a try if they fit. He might sell the tanks. Pat Reilly Mod 3 Rebuild Rockford, IL From: len@gcgs.caTo: kitfox-list@matronics.comSubject: Kitfox-List: Wanted - Kitfox fuel tanksDate: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:42:54 -0500 Hi all, I am looking for used wing tanks for a MK2 KF. I only have a header tank and now that my wings are open for a recover, I would like to up the fuel l oad. I considered the tanks from wing tanks.com but it is an expensive exp eriment and the seller is a bit difficult to deal with (no direct contact i nfo and very little info available). They may be great tanks but I can not verify. At more than 1G for the tanks I would expect to see a speck sheet . 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    Time: 06:36:21 PM PST US
    From: John Alexander <alexandj@preachain.org>
    Subject: Re: Tru-Trak Autopilot in S5/Vixen
    Travis, I'm planning to install a Tru-trak ADI-II right out the chute when I build my Kitfox. I would really appreciate any pics that you have of the install. John Alexander FlyboyTR wrote: > > I have completed the install of the autopilot. No major headaches or fabrication needed. However....I so apologize!!!! When we finished everything it was a cold rainy day (our hanger is open on two sides). After we cleaned up all the tools, etc. Kathy pulled out the camera, and after that...dead battery warning! We did not take ANY pictures. Since I had the help, we put the plane back together and flew it the next day. > > We made a few control adjustments while in flight (changing the torque and movement speeds of the servos). This is done at the control head and is actually quite easy to do. We locked on altitude at 2,000' and it did not change by more than 10' up or down. It also held us on course and making directional changes are easy. We took it down to 800' because it was really turbulent at that altitude. Altitude +/- 20 and it held the course heading. We had to increase the lateral adjustment (how fast the servo responds and moves). After that it did a fantastic job of keeping the wings level even though it was a rough ride. At present...I have no complaints about the ADI Pilot II. I'm just glad it is installed...and I'm thrilled. > > The main servo is mounted on the left side of the fuselage behind the seat, attached with Adell clamps to the two V shaped tubes. The elevator servo is also behind the seat just above the push/pull tubs. It is also mounted to the structural tubes in that location. The pushrod is attached the elevator pushrod under the seat. > > When we pull the plane down for it's next 100 hour inspection I will take lots of pictures with printed detail and post them. I really feel bad that i was unable to take the pictures...but I had help and didn't want to delay the test flight. > > If you have any specific questions, please ask! > > Travis :D > > -------- > Travis Rayner > Mobile, AL > Skystar Vixen > N-789DF > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160586#160586 > > >


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    Time: 07:41:08 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in...off topic
    Thanks, Pat. When I checked the NOAA weather for Oshkosh, sometime this morning, they showed 3/4 mile visibility, and that alone would have kept me from getting in there. Guess I made the right decision to stay here. Lynn Matteson Grass Lake, Michigan Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 flying w/460+ hrs do not archive On Jan 26, 2008, at 8:32 PM, patrick reilly wrote: > Lynn, Just talked to Luscome ski plane buddy from Cottonwood > Airport,here in Rockford, that was planning to go but didn't. He > said only 1 plane on ski's, from Broadhead WI, made it to Oshkosh., > no other ski planes. Pat Reilly > > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > > From: lynnmatt@jps.net > > Subject: Kitfox-List: Oshkosh Skiplane Fly-in...off topic > > Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:47:22 -0500 > > > > > > Did anybody go to the Oshkosh (actually Pioneer Field) Skiplane Fly- > > in today? > > I was registered to go, but less-than-desirable weather conditions > > between lower-Lower Michigan, around Chicago, and on up to Osh kept > > me wisely at home. When I called for conditions this morning, they > > warned of icing on their vehicle's windshield driving in...that > > sealed it for me. I had intended to leave yesterday, but the weather > > "vibes" just weren't right. > > I'd like to hear a plane count if anybody attended. > > > > > > Lynn Matteson > > Grass Lake, Michigan > > Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200 > > flying w/460+ hrs > > do not archive > > > > ===================== > > > > > www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List _- > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > ===========================================================




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